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Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

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Did you try rebooting your processor so see if the Sonos is rediscovered?

Sounds like a Cloud problem to me.? Why else would everyone start have issues.? That may be Crestron's fault or it may be a Sonos cloud service problem.? The Reboot issue sounds like a bug in the Sonos module where if it gets something unsuspected, the processor reboots -- its not the first time I have seen something like this.

So far none of my clients have called me but for the most part, we constructed our programs where is the Sonos module breaks, it the Sonos will continue to work.


On 10/2/20 4:25 PM, ckangis via groups.io wrote:

Interestingly, I'm at a site with (2) PORTs (S2-12.1) and a CP3/TSWx60 setup, and 'So Far' no problems!?
I'm running CP3 PUF v1.601.0050
I have disabled all the ENABLEFEATURE items, including HYDROGENENABLE

My Friend is running a couple CONNECTs at his house with a CP3 set to the same FW, etc. and he's having issues... So Weird!!


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

The completely insane thing to me is the following:
Crestron is quite a large company when compared with Josh.ai.
Josh.ai can fully search several of the streaming services on Sonos. ?You can ask it to play virtually anything.
It can even ¡°voice cast¡± onto many Sonos devices.
Why can¡¯t Crestron do any of this?
I haven¡¯t heard anything breaking (yet) from Josh.
Why is Crestron constantly having problems?

Just curious,
Brian


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

Dave H-

This isn¡¯t directed to you personally but it¡¯s amazing how thoroughly and completely Crestron messed this whole Sonos integration up. ?I¡¯m pretty forgiving of the roller coaster that is sometimes Creston but this has been a mess since day 1. ?You guys went out of your way to tell everyone of the ground breaking partnership with Sonos by sending out emails and advertising on the website but it has LITERALLY NEVER WORKED RELIABLY. ?Patch after patch, upgrade after upgrade has never fixed it. ?I¡¯m really getting tired of eating crow with client after client trying to convince them that this will be the last time it breaks...the last time it will leave them hanging...the last time they will have to pay for a serivice call to fix this. ?Under normal circumstances this is a pain to deal with...but nowadays we are fighting for every job and every client and this Sonos nonsense isn¡¯t something we should have to be worrying about right now. ?You guys are partners according to Creston, ?these things are tested all the time to prevent surprises right? ?A team of people in both companies ¡°partnering¡± to ensure that things stay reliable and predictable right? ?Part of the Kool Aid we drink and the rhetoric we tell potential customers is that Crestron is ¡°better¡± and that its the ¡°most reliable¡±. ?We tell them that they don¡¯t ?want Control4 or Savant or RTI or Elan because Crestron is supposed to be the premier brand. ?Failures like this are one of the big reasons people don¡¯t come back to Crestron again. ?The system could otherwise be pefect but they¡¯ll never forget how we had to be back a dozen times to reset their processor or upgrade a module to make theri Sonos work.


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

No need to inundate TB. ?I just spoke with Nicholas Northrup and he said
¡°Yes and it has been duplicated in Engineering and is top priority¡±
When I asked If they were on it. So looks like once there is a fix we may have o go around and update everyones Sonos modules again lol...I dont see how therewill be a solution without some sort of onsite visit.


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

hey, on a more humorous note, all of my Crestron/Sonos communication errors have gone away LOL!!!


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

ok everyone, just got done with a lengthy conversation with Crestron, they have acknowledged the problem and are "collecting data" (whatever that means).? they have encouraged all of us to contact them so that they have case numbers to back up the need for a solution.? Sooooooo, everyone start calling TB!!!


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

Crestron is currently performing some final tests to confirm the suspected root cause, but we anticipate an announcement and proposed workaround may be posted some time next week.


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

Ok, now I have one site that has completely failed.? Reboot does not bring it back any more.? Have no idea what has changed except for this, on this site, I tried uploading a new program setup with the nice idea of putting Sonos in the program 2 slot.? But, as soon as I uploaded the Sonos program, the controller (AV3) would load it and then restart it over and over again.? I pulled up the old program and made a quick change, compiled it and uploaded it to the system.? The darn thing started that reboot function again.? So I installed an older program that has not been compiled with this revision of Simpl and viola the reboot has stopped.? Now, the bummer is, the control is still not there.? I pulled up the text console and issued the errlog command and the AV3 thinks it is connected to the SONOS and ready to go.

AV3>errlog
?SYSTEM LOG:
? 1. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:03? # Sonos - The primary device is changed to Jack Room.
? 2. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:03? # Sonos - The primary device(Jack Room) favorites event subscription state changed to "Not Registered".
? 3. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:03? # Sonos - The primary device(Jack Room) group configuration event subscription state changed to "Not Registered".
? 4. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:03? # Sonos - The system state changed to "Connected to Primary Device".
? 5. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:03? # Sonos - The primary device(Jack Room) state is changed to "connecting".
? 6. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:04? # Sonos - The primary device(Jack Room) state is changed to "connected".
? 7. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:04? # Sonos - The system state changed to "Subscribing for Group Configuration Event".
? 8. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:04? # Sonos - The primary Sonos household was changed to Sonos_Sqfq7xNngnu1GqyDQOIsZGShOw.
? 9. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:04? # Sonos - The system state changed to "Subscribed for Group Configuration Event".
?10. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:04? # Sonos - The system state changed to "Subscribed for favorites Event".
?11. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:04? # Sonos - The primary device(Jack Room) favorites event subscription state changed to "Registered".
?12. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:04? # Sonos - The system state changed to "Subscribed for Group Configuration Event".
?13. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:05? # Sonos - The system state changed to "Subscribed for Group Configuration Event".
?14. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:05? # Sonos - The primary device(Jack Room) group configuration event subscription state changed to "Registered".
?15. Notice: splusmanagerapp.exe [App 1] # 2020-10-02 15:42:05? # Sonos - The system state changed to "System Ready".
?Total Msgs Logged = 16
?END OF SYSTEM LOG


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

This is exactly the same as I¡¯m seeing, intermittent volume control (not using the media player, vol+/vol-/mute is all I care about).
Rebooting the processor may or may not fix it, there doesn't appear to be any pattern.?


Also have been seeing API errors in debugger when the Sonos debugging is enabled.......


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

Interestingly, I'm at a site with (2) PORTs (S2-12.1) and a CP3/TSWx60 setup, and 'So Far' no problems!?
I'm running CP3 PUF v1.601.0050
I have disabled all the ENABLEFEATURE items, including HYDROGENENABLE

My Friend is running a couple CONNECTs at his house with a CP3 set to the same FW, etc. and he's having issues... So Weird!!


Module for Key Digital Audio Matrix Switch KD-MAX8x8

 

Hello Guys
Does anyone have a module for?Key Digital Audio Matrix Switch KD-MAX8x8
Thanks


Pro3 Removable Media not available for Web/Mobility Projects #crestronapp

 

Has anyone experienced a problem in Toolbox when uploading a Web/Mobility projects to Pro3?

I can¡¯t select removable media as a target, only internal flash. I tried removing spaces from the project file name and

also different projects, but nothing seems to make the Removable Media available. Is this a possibly a firmware issue?

I can ftp files directly to CF card if necessary, but would like to know what is causing the issue.

Thanks in advance.

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Pro3 1.503.3318.24705

?

Mika Hagan

Avitel


Re: Showing msg error in cp3

 

The first thing I would try is connecting to the processor with toolbox and using the text console tool? enter the command "Initialize".? When that has completed enter the command "restore".? Finally, enter the command "reboot".??

This should bring your processor completely back to factory defaults and let you start over from scratch configuring the processor and loading your program.

I haven't tried it in a long time but there also used to be a command named "betacleanup" that went even farther at cleaning up a processor if the above doesn't work.

Hope this helps

Jay

------ Original Message ------
From: "Shabir Afsar" <shabir0609@...>
Sent: 10/2/2020 11:26:53 AM
Subject: [crestron] Showing msg error in cp3

Hi Team,?

I am unable to program my cp3 as while sending program it shows msg error in red.?

I tried factory reset, initialize through text console but no change.?

Even when i try to erase program it shows error that not able to erase .?

Please advise. Your valuable suggestion is highly appreciated.?

Regards,?
Shabir


Any Movement From Teams Feedback For UC Engines?

 

I haven't had to integrated a Flex/UC Engine system with a processor in about a year, and I was wondering if anyone who has put their hands on one recently has seen how much feedback we can get through the control system from the UC-Engine?

Last time I was using it I was trying to get basic 'MUTE' status feedback, which was listed, somewhere, on Crestron's website as a known bug.

Anyone know if that's been fixed and if we get proper feedback for things like 'standby' or not?? It would be great to get a multi-display environment to power on/off automatically as well as show mute status for various mics in the room through the control system.


Re: Control 4 - C4-AMP108 - 16 Channel Amplifier - Quality?

 

Thanks for the responses.? I've used Clare Controls (Snap AV) 16 channel amp before and it has been decent.? I had a hissing when I used the BUS input as the source, which was painful to discover, but when sources were direct, it sounded absolutely fine for background audio purposes as well as playing TV and other sources at a reasonable volume.

The RTI looks like a real winner.? Not sure if I want to go through becoming a dealer to just try and get one product from them.? But, that's not a product I've seen before and really hits the mark in terms of size/performance.

A shame that stupid C4 amp is unreliable.? The size and performance is perfectly fine for what I'm looking for.? Sigh...? I might still try to pick one up.? They aren't going for much used.

I guess a smaller 8-channel amp (or two) would work as well, but all amps seem to run into the same issue with depth for most units.? *sigh*


Controlling Delta icon pro Series video wall controller through lan

 

Hi Team,?

Have anyone controlled Delta icon pro Series video wall controlled through lan.?

Please help me with this.?

Regards,?

Shabir


Showing msg error in cp3

 

Hi Team,?

I am unable to program my cp3 as while sending program it shows msg error in red.?

I tried factory reset, initialize through text console but no change.?

Even when i try to erase program it shows error that not able to erase .?

Please advise. Your valuable suggestion is highly appreciated.?

Regards,?
Shabir


Re: PAD8 alternatives

 

For me, it's not even a question...? I get the BIPAD8 off of eBay on a regular basis.? They last forever... like, literally, forever.? I have three in my home and feed them from my DM16x16 DSP cards.? They are simple, work perfectly, and are a great product.? I have to note any contract I sell that they are (B) stock product, but I warranty them for a year myself, make excellent profit on them, and if it breaks (never happened with several dozen sold) it is inexpensive to replace.

Still miss the MX850/ML600 remote.? That one was killer as well.


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

I hate to sound like a broken record here but the chatter about the long-standing issue of Sonos control and program rebooting is not what¡¯s going on and it¡¯s diluting the thread. ?There is a brand new breaking issue that as far as I can tell just popped up within the last few days. ?I now have a handful of clients reporting similar issues along with my personal setup at home. ?Systems with multiple Sonos devices have inconsistent failures. ?Volume and transport controls are not restored via program restart and have had mixed reports of multiple hardware restarts eventually working. ?In every case the favorites and now playing images are no longer populating. ?All of the problems in our case are running S2. ?I was fine with putting Sonos control in it¡¯s own program slot and restarting it...that solution, albeit a little lame, makes the control pretty stable. ?BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS GOING ON CURRENTLY.


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

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No, those are still the latest and greatest.? As a matter of fact, volume and mute control is all I ever used them for.? And, unfortunately, they still loose that control too.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Slip Cougan
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 8:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Issues with Sonos & Crestron

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Hi Dave,

Thanks for the update.
With regard to the Crestron Sonos modules in the database - have there been any updates from 3.1.0?
Client does not want Media Player or even transport - just volume & mute control.
Cheers
-s