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Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

 

That's why a lot of use multiple crosspoint connect symbols, normally one for each touch panel, that way you just leave the panel connect and change equipment. Although, disconnect all disconnects EVERY symbol, just not the one you pulse it on. Thus the warning, I believe.

--- In Crestron@..., "jgreenink16" <jgreenink16@...> wrote:

I was about to call hogwash on that, but as it turns out, my disconnect_all actually connects to DiscFromC. I find that one very handy, and probably the one he wants. I find that much easier than trying to remember which device was connected previously.

--- In Crestron@..., "Witmarquzot" <tdurrant420@> wrote:

Your welcome.

I think almost everyone in the group has gone through that problem(or similar).
Also, the InUse signal does not always stay high, it has a tendency to go low for a couple of waves(at least in my experience) when connecting a new controller to an equipment cross point. I use a ROS and an AND to make sure that it stays high until the inuse has gone low for X seconds.

I doubt you will need this info, but stay away from DiscAll. It will reek nothing but havoc on a system. Good if you want to break the system, but I have yet to find a good use for it.

--- In Crestron@..., Tim F <tsfauser@> wrote:

Thanks,

I was doing Disc EC.?? I figured it would reset everything before reconnecting.?? 1, to 101.??



________________________________
From: Witmarquzot <tdurrant420@>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment


??
If you are using Disconnect only, it only Disconnects the numbers it the equipment/controller values.
For EX:
E:100
C:1
Disconnect
Connect
Disconnects E100 and C1
Then connects E100 and C1

If you use DiscFromC it will disconnect all the equipment from the selected controller. This should give you the result you are looking for.

For Ex:
E:101
C:1
DiscFromC
Connect
Disconnect all Equipment from C1
Then connect E101 and C1

--- In Crestron@..., "timfauser" <tsfauser@> wrote:

Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system (fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d (was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F



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Re: Multiple running clocks and dates in the same system.

 

Thanks Tray!

Erik, it's for an aquaculture investigation center.
Re: Sort of OT: Seamless WiFi roaming?

 

This wasn't the virtual cell system that they sell, but a micro cell system? I didn't realize they had a microcell system with a controller available. Or maybe I'm confused as to how the virtual cell system would show up on a wifi scan.

--- In Crestron@..., "jgreenink16" <jgreenink16@...> wrote:

I've put in a Pakedge microcell network with 3 waps (not a huge system, I'll admit), but it's incredibly stable. I can download a file continuously while walking from corner to corner of the place with some pretty bad interference from neighboring wifi. I haven't heard a single complaint about iPad connections, but I didn't do the crestron program there, just the network. I assume it's pretty good based on my laptop testing.

You set it up via the controller once, but yes, the waps show up on different channels with the same SSID if you do a wifi scan.

I've also seen some Netgear stuff advertise wireless management and they have a controller to go with it, but I can only imagine the pita the setup might be. The Pakedge setup is relatively simple and their tech support is really good.

--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" <floyd1212@> wrote:

I guess this isn't really OT since networking and WiFi seems to be half of what we all do these days...

I'm looking for a wireless system (WAPs and controller) that can solve the "sticky WAP" syndrome where a wireless device will hang on to a weak WAP until it has totally lost signal before moving to a new, stronger WAP.

It seems that most of the controllers out there, like Ruckus and others, make configuring an array of WAPs much easier, potentially even automatic, but they still appear as individual WAPs to the client, setup on different channels with the same SSID. Am I correct?

The only thing I have come across that claims to solve this problem is from Meru (and Pakedge, which appears to re-badge the Meru product) with their "Virtual Cell" technology, but I haven't used either system yet. Does anyone have any experience with the Meru or Pakedge controllers, or is there something else out there that works like it?

Thanks,

-David
Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

Heath Volmer
 

The real lesson to be learned here is: Don't learn crosspoints on anything
that your wife might be using! Better yet, don't develop anything on it.
;-)

(I always do changes on a secondary room and when I'm convinced that the
new stuff won't get me an angry wife-call in the middle of the work day,
I'll load it to the other rooms. Been there.)

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:46 PM, timfauser <tsfauser@...> wrote:

**


Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system
(fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One
Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on
Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d
(was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come
out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I
try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking
for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F



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Re: Multiple running clocks and dates in the same system.

erikm_101
 

Sounds like you are programming for an "enhanced" interrogation area - keep them terrorists of kilter with weird light schedules.

--- In Crestron@..., "javiermazon_com" <javier@...> wrote:

Hi!

I'm programming a system that has some special needs. User need to be able to simulate light scenarios of different GPS positions and dates. User must be able to configure the conditions:
-GPS coordinates
-Time from 0-100% of Sunrise and from 100%to0% of Sunset
-Date of simulation.

For example:
-One room could be running lights emulating the sun in YEMEN in 3rd august, calculating the sunrise and sunset for that GPS coordinates and that date.
-While another room could be running lights emulation sun in South Italy on 3th september.

There are 16 different spaces.

I can perform almost all the tasks with timers, pasts, offsets and astronomical clock... but I've not a clear way of programming two spaces running at different dates just using one TOD$.
I may create a simpl+ module that modifies TOD$ creating several TOD$s based on days/months delay... any better idea? It's my only clue for the moment.

Thanks for your advices ;)
Re: Serial control using a USB port

Witmarquzot
 

I have the radio shack one and the keyspan. I like the keyspan more, but the radio shack one comes with a 6 foot cord and can mate directly to most devices, which makes it ideal for most setups when you just need to set up the ethernet.

For doing debug via serial, use the keyspan. The radio shack one does not like to have large amounts of data passing through it all the time.


Also, you may want to look into the Crestron usb ir learner and the Engo one. I have not tried either, but have heard nothing bad about the Engo one.

--- In Crestron@..., "mm24all" <martinp@...> wrote:

Have been using Tripp Lite Keyspan unit

with a Dell Precision M4400.

--- In Crestron@..., "Brendan McAlpine" <brendan@> wrote:

Works a treat!


--- In Crestron@..., "jfa_crestron" jfa_crestron@ wrote:

Can someone recommend which USB serial adaptor to purchase that will
work with the CNXLIR Learner? I have a new HP desktop and can't find a
9 pin serial card that connects with this computer.
Re: Serial control using a USB port

 

Have been using Tripp Lite Keyspan unit

with a Dell Precision M4400.

--- In Crestron@..., "Brendan McAlpine" <brendan@...> wrote:

Works a treat!


--- In Crestron@..., "jfa_crestron" jfa_crestron@ wrote:

Can someone recommend which USB serial adaptor to purchase that will
work with the CNXLIR Learner? I have a new HP desktop and can't find a
9 pin serial card that connects with this computer.
Re: Sort of OT: Seamless WiFi roaming?

jgreenink16
 

I've put in a Pakedge microcell network with 3 waps (not a huge system, I'll admit), but it's incredibly stable. I can download a file continuously while walking from corner to corner of the place with some pretty bad interference from neighboring wifi. I haven't heard a single complaint about iPad connections, but I didn't do the crestron program there, just the network. I assume it's pretty good based on my laptop testing.

You set it up via the controller once, but yes, the waps show up on different channels with the same SSID if you do a wifi scan.

I've also seen some Netgear stuff advertise wireless management and they have a controller to go with it, but I can only imagine the pita the setup might be. The Pakedge setup is relatively simple and their tech support is really good.

--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" <floyd1212@...> wrote:

I guess this isn't really OT since networking and WiFi seems to be half of what we all do these days...

I'm looking for a wireless system (WAPs and controller) that can solve the "sticky WAP" syndrome where a wireless device will hang on to a weak WAP until it has totally lost signal before moving to a new, stronger WAP.

It seems that most of the controllers out there, like Ruckus and others, make configuring an array of WAPs much easier, potentially even automatic, but they still appear as individual WAPs to the client, setup on different channels with the same SSID. Am I correct?

The only thing I have come across that claims to solve this problem is from Meru (and Pakedge, which appears to re-badge the Meru product) with their "Virtual Cell" technology, but I haven't used either system yet. Does anyone have any experience with the Meru or Pakedge controllers, or is there something else out there that works like it?

Thanks,

-David
Re: Multiple running clocks and dates in the same system.

 

Yes, use S+ to modify the TOD string sent to any room not using local time/date.
I¡¯ve done this and it works great.

Tray

==


From: javiermazon_com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:39 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Multiple running clocks and dates in the same system.


Hi!

I'm programming a system that has some special needs. User need to be able to simulate light scenarios of different GPS positions and dates. User must be able to configure the conditions:
-GPS coordinates
-Time from 0-100% of Sunrise and from 100%to0% of Sunset
-Date of simulation.

For example:
-One room could be running lights emulating the sun in YEMEN in 3rd august, calculating the sunrise and sunset for that GPS coordinates and that date.
-While another room could be running lights emulation sun in South Italy on 3th september.

There are 16 different spaces.

I can perform almost all the tasks with timers, pasts, offsets and astronomical clock... but I've not a clear way of programming two spaces running at different dates just using one TOD$.
I may create a simpl+ module that modifies TOD$ creating several TOD$s based on days/months delay... any better idea? It's my only clue for the moment.

Thanks for your advices ;)





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Re: Off Topic - killing laptops - any advice?

 

use smcFanControl on the mac and crank the fans up to get rid of the heat.

run "Repair Disk Permissions" using Disk Utility on the mac, you would be
surprised at the weird problems that will fix.



On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:42 AM, oldspunky <paul@...>wrote:

**


For the past 5 or 6 years the laptops I use for program development have
been dying (about 1 a year). I have tried Toshiba, Lenovo, HP, and
Panasonic Toughbooks. So this time I tried a Mac Powerbook (with VMware
Fusion and Windows 7. Now the Mac is getting clunky too.

I am probably overloading them, but when I have several copies of Simpl
Windows, Vtpro-e, Autocad, xpanel, Toolbox, and probably a Clearone or
Biamp configuration file (and perhaps Photoshop) all open at the same time
the laptops get pretty hot. Unfortunately I usually need all those things
when working on a program or bringing up a system.

I do a lot of my programming on the road so using a desktop is probably
not an option.

I have been using Radioshack fans and they seem to help, but my Mac is
still getting hot enough to fry eggs or my hands. Any ideas? Or should I
just accept this and budget a new laptop (and software) every year or so.?

Thanks,
Paul



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Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

jgreenink16
 

I was about to call hogwash on that, but as it turns out, my disconnect_all actually connects to DiscFromC. I find that one very handy, and probably the one he wants. I find that much easier than trying to remember which device was connected previously.

--- In Crestron@..., "Witmarquzot" <tdurrant420@...> wrote:

Your welcome.

I think almost everyone in the group has gone through that problem(or similar).
Also, the InUse signal does not always stay high, it has a tendency to go low for a couple of waves(at least in my experience) when connecting a new controller to an equipment cross point. I use a ROS and an AND to make sure that it stays high until the inuse has gone low for X seconds.

I doubt you will need this info, but stay away from DiscAll. It will reek nothing but havoc on a system. Good if you want to break the system, but I have yet to find a good use for it.

--- In Crestron@..., Tim F <tsfauser@> wrote:

Thanks,

I was doing Disc EC.?? I figured it would reset everything before reconnecting.?? 1, to 101.??



________________________________
From: Witmarquzot <tdurrant420@>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment


??
If you are using Disconnect only, it only Disconnects the numbers it the equipment/controller values.
For EX:
E:100
C:1
Disconnect
Connect
Disconnects E100 and C1
Then connects E100 and C1

If you use DiscFromC it will disconnect all the equipment from the selected controller. This should give you the result you are looking for.

For Ex:
E:101
C:1
DiscFromC
Connect
Disconnect all Equipment from C1
Then connect E101 and C1

--- In Crestron@..., "timfauser" <tsfauser@> wrote:

Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system (fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d (was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F



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C2N-TFM Showing up as "UNSUPPORTED DEVICE"

 

I am setting up the network on a system I'm about to upload to. Running through the devices when discovering, it pulls up an error for the C2N-TFM. It says "Unsupported Device". It will let me keep going, but any idea what this means?

The processor is a CP2E and I am programming this system in SB.
Re: Send Email / Dyn DNS

Raph Paf
 

I've you set the dns server on your processor?

--- In Crestron@..., "Bobis" <msnsugerpurjo@...> wrote:

Trying mail.com setup as below, with my account.
but get error -3

Do I have to get a Pro account? Not just the free version?

If i need to change port, is it possible with this module?

Regards
Joel

--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <xidus.net@> wrote:

FYI, you will get ISPs that block outgoing SMTP connections to
anything except their own servers, especially in residential
environments. Mailhop providers will typically provide you with
alternate port numbers that are less likely to be blocked by ISPs.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:34 AM, jbudz1977 <jbudz1977@> wrote:
Super tip, thanks!

Just tested and it works great with the following settings:

From: ?username@ (as assigned during the sign up)
Server: ?smtp.mail.com
User Login Name: ?username@
Password: ?the password



--- In Crestron@..., "slip.cougan" <slip.cougan@> wrote:

Try www.mail.com
Works with Crestron SendMail great.
g



------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links




--
Jeremy Weatherford
Multiple running clocks and dates in the same system.

 

Hi!

I'm programming a system that has some special needs. User need to be able to simulate light scenarios of different GPS positions and dates. User must be able to configure the conditions:
-GPS coordinates
-Time from 0-100% of Sunrise and from 100%to0% of Sunset
-Date of simulation.

For example:
-One room could be running lights emulating the sun in YEMEN in 3rd august, calculating the sunrise and sunset for that GPS coordinates and that date.
-While another room could be running lights emulation sun in South Italy on 3th september.

There are 16 different spaces.

I can perform almost all the tasks with timers, pasts, offsets and astronomical clock... but I've not a clear way of programming two spaces running at different dates just using one TOD$.
I may create a simpl+ module that modifies TOD$ creating several TOD$s based on days/months delay... any better idea? It's my only clue for the moment.

Thanks for your advices ;)
Re: Global Cache

nevahdun
 

--- In Crestron@..., "goofy_1562" <jon@...> wrote:

Hi All

I don't suppose anyone would have a module for a Global Cache device, or could point me in the right direction to read up on integrating the 6 port IR version into a Crestron system. Never used one before...

Cheers Jon
Re: Send Email / Dyn DNS

Bobis
 

Trying mail.com setup as below, with my account.
but get error -3

Do I have to get a Pro account? Not just the free version?

If i need to change port, is it possible with this module?

Regards
Joel

--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <xidus.net@...> wrote:

FYI, you will get ISPs that block outgoing SMTP connections to
anything except their own servers, especially in residential
environments. Mailhop providers will typically provide you with
alternate port numbers that are less likely to be blocked by ISPs.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:34 AM, jbudz1977 <jbudz1977@...> wrote:
Super tip, thanks!

Just tested and it works great with the following settings:

From: ?username@... (as assigned during the sign up)
Server: ?smtp.mail.com
User Login Name: ?username@...
Password: ?the password



--- In Crestron@..., "slip.cougan" <slip.cougan@> wrote:

Try www.mail.com
Works with Crestron SendMail great.
g



------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links




--
Jeremy Weatherford
Global Cache

goofy_1562
 

Hi All

I don't suppose anyone would have a module for a Global Cache device, or could point me in the right direction to read up on integrating the 6 port IR version into a Crestron system. Never used one before...

Cheers Jon
Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

Witmarquzot
 

Your welcome.

I think almost everyone in the group has gone through that problem(or similar).
Also, the InUse signal does not always stay high, it has a tendency to go low for a couple of waves(at least in my experience) when connecting a new controller to an equipment cross point. I use a ROS and an AND to make sure that it stays high until the inuse has gone low for X seconds.

I doubt you will need this info, but stay away from DiscAll. It will reek nothing but havoc on a system. Good if you want to break the system, but I have yet to find a good use for it.

--- In Crestron@..., Tim F <tsfauser@...> wrote:

Thanks,

I was doing Disc EC.?? I figured it would reset everything before reconnecting.?? 1, to 101.??



________________________________
From: Witmarquzot <tdurrant420@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment


??
If you are using Disconnect only, it only Disconnects the numbers it the equipment/controller values.
For EX:
E:100
C:1
Disconnect
Connect
Disconnects E100 and C1
Then connects E100 and C1

If you use DiscFromC it will disconnect all the equipment from the selected controller. This should give you the result you are looking for.

For Ex:
E:101
C:1
DiscFromC
Connect
Disconnect all Equipment from C1
Then connect E101 and C1

--- In Crestron@..., "timfauser" <tsfauser@> wrote:

Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system (fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d (was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F



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Re: Polycom QDX6000

 

I was working on one last Friday and spent two hours on tech support with Polycom. The bottom line is that I ran into the EXACT same problem you did. I didn't have any luck and I used both the included 'pass-thru' cable supplied, and without it.

I ALSO did not get component video output to work on the unit at all. Polycom is advance replacing a unit which should arrive tomorrow (Monday, 4/23/12) and I will be trying it again in-house instead of on-site.

The protocols API is available from their support website, but the bottom line is that it is identical for IR control to the HDX series units. So, using the Crestron provided HDX module, at the very least, you should have IR control functionality.

I did not have this control, I did not EVER get this control... So, I will see again on Monday what occurs, but I would love any insight that you, or anyone else gets, in this regard.

I will first hook it up with a known good cable with only pins 2, 3, and 5 connected. I know that sometimes over-pinning a serial cable with some products can mess things up. So, I'll go from there.

At least Polycom was willing to spend over an hour (!!!) on the phone troubleshooting this product.

It just scares me what getting the VTC to actually work will be like considering the headache with this part of the setup.

--- In Crestron@..., "stranded" <strandedyahoo@...> wrote:

Has anyone been able to control a QDX6000? It's definitely supposed to be RS232 controllable after firmware 4.0, but I haven't been able to get it to work. It will not respond to anything on its com port at all. I have set the com port for control and hooked up to the thing like any other Polycom and no joy. I am thinking I might have a bad unit. I talked to tech support and was told I needed a special cable as referenced in the API. we made that cable on-site only to find out it had actually come with the unit. The cable made no difference. Plus, according to the documentation that cable is only for "pass thru" mode.

I'm going to call tech support again today but I was hoping someone here could push me in the right direction.

Thanks
Re: Just posted Insteon lighting & thermostat control modules that I developed

 

Bumping an old topic, but wanted to see how your experience has been if you are still using them with the Insteon products. I have a number of residential properties which clamor for some lighting control but aren't up for the pricing of Lutron.

I would love to put this in, and was thinking of using your module (which looks excellent), but wanted a bit more information about your specific setup and your involvement with it.

I was also thinking about doing this with my new home.

I saw that you recommend the filters, at about 25 bucks each I could certainly throw a half dozen in... But, I was thinking that this may end up controlling 100+ switches in my home when completed, connected to a Pro2.

Wanted to know what hardware you were using, because it sounds like you are using this...


For 80 bucks, that's an inexpensive way to gain lighting control.

Likewise, wanted to know what else may be necessary. I am just registering with the Insteon forums, and I really have no need for advanced functionality beyond 'basic' dimming right now. Even the two-way aspect isn't a big deal to me. But, gaining power line control over lighting for 80 bucks plus a few dimmers in a theater would be a cost concious option to even a Grafik Eye and would be pretty exciting to add to the mix if it is quick and reliable.

Would love more thoughts and discussion on this, or other lighting control options which are reasonably priced and expandable.

--- In Crestron@..., "Nason Tackett" <nason@...> wrote:

I developed these modules for my own house and tested and perfected them over the past 2 years. They work well and offer polling so that your touch panel stays in sync with the current levels. Also, there is a module for controlling/polling the Insteon/Venstar thermostat. Included is an example program and touch screen to see how to use the modules. Let me know if you have any questions.
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