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--- In C-Car@..., "Mike Chancey" <evtinker@h...> wrote:

Hi folks,

I would like to make a data base of parts interchanges for the C-

cars.

Basically, whenever someone finds a perfect interchange, let us

know with

full part numbers. I will try to make a database of this info and

add it to

the C-Car homepage files. Somewhere I have a partial listing from

my

Citicar, and I will attempt to locate that and get it into the

system.

This is an example of what I have in mine:

Brake System:

Master Cylinder
74-78? Citicar (single master) Wagner #**
78-82? Comutacar (dual master) Wagner #**


Thanks,

Mike Chancey,

...

Mike,

The three 1976 Citicars that I have seen all use the dual master
cylinder. Maybe it was 1974-75 when the single was used. Not sure. Do
you have the Wagner part no.? If not, here is the exact NAPA
replacement that I used on a Comuta-car:

NAPA # 36237 , list price $83.29, shop price 50.29. It fits several
"normal" cars including: 63-73 Ambassador, 67-73 jeepster, 73 Jeep
Commando, 64-69 AMC, etc.

SAH

Hi folks,

I would like to make a data base of parts interchanges for the C-cars.
Basically, whenever someone finds a perfect interchange, let us know with
full part numbers. I will try to make a database of this info and add it to
the C-Car homepage files. Somewhere I have a partial listing from my
Citicar, and I will attempt to locate that and get it into the system.

This is an example of what I have in mine:

Brake System:

Master Cylinder
74-78? Citicar (single master) Wagner #**
78-82? Comutacar (dual master) Wagner #**


Thanks,

Mike Chancey,
C-Car Moderator
'88 Civic EV
Kansas City, Missouri
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It is always refreshing to hear stories of people rescuing these great
little cars and bringing them back into service. I too am currently in the
process of bringing a Comutacar back "from the dead". I acquired mine from
the original owner who had purchased it back in 1980. After driving it for
only a couple of months, he decided that electric cars weren't for him and
parked it in his back yard where it sat for the next 20 years! Fortunately
for me the car was parked in a heavily shaded area of the yard so the body
was spared the effects of UV damage. As you can imagine, however, rain
completely deteriorated both foam covered bumpers, leaked into and rusted
all exterior light sockets, seeped into the dasboard corroding numerous
contacts,switches and wire terminals, and made a general mess of things.
There was even some green moss growing on the top of the dashboard! The
inside of the car also apparently served as a home for numerous generations
of field mice and insects throughout the years.

All in all, thanks to its all plastic body and aluminum chassis, though, I
think it survived far better than most cars would have for being outside for
20 years.

My goal is to systematically go through the entire car and restore it back
to its original condition. I am also planning on replacing the master
cylinder and shocks and would like to hear where you located the
replacements and the manufacturer's part numbers that you used. Any help
you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

T.C. Mann

What are you doing with the remaining parts?

Mike

Hi Mike, and C-Car people,

This is a great idea, and the timing couldn't have been better.
I have been interested in these cars for a few years now, and
last month I aquired 4 Comutacars. These cars have been sitting
in the weather for about 7-8 year, but I think I can make 2 to 3
out of the 4. I have one I'm working on now that I've removed all
parts from under the car sand blasted, painted, replaced all shocks,
all brake lines, and master cylinder. Will bleed system this week
end, and start on the wiring. I will send in pictures later of this
project. Again great idea, and looking forward to the input, and
pictures of other C-Cars being restored.

Don Morin KE4HDG
Bell, Florida

I have owned seven C-cars over the last three years. I fixed up and
sold some of them and junked/parted out two of them. I now have two
Comuta-cars. The yellow Comuta-car is stock (I need a F/R contactor
assembly and field coils - I have lots of other spare parts if anyone
is interested), and the brown one has been modified. See at:



Scott Hull

Hi everyone,

I have a 1980 Commutavan which is currently down waiting for me to finish a
new version of my controller. You can see pictures of it and detail on the
controller at my web site:



Tom Snoblen N8AMX

Thought I'd touch base. Have a 1981 Comutacar and a '76 Citicar. Have
had the '81 running and registered. Have a Golftech
72V 400A Curtis 1205 upgrade. Have been having numerous failures
under warranty. Have just voided my warranty
by taking the unit out of the case and will mount it on a finned heat
exchanger inside a piece of 6" pvc pipe with a 24V 6" muffin
type fan on while the unit is running. The car runs like butter at
72V with golfcart type tires. Much more stable and
does not feel like a death trap. Will be another couple weeks before
getting it running.
Has anyone else had a rash of problems with Curtis controllers. Have
all the attendant surge and arc suppressors. Failures
seem to be temperature related. Hey, it was interesting to get inside
the unit anyway.


Tom Gocze

We should allow attachments. I always view elists on the website
rather than recieve mail so it works well for me.

SAH

--- In C-Car@..., Andrew Letton <letton@f...> wrote:

Hi Everyone-

Thanks Mike for starting this list!

The attached photo worked for me too, though I would rather see a

policy

of no attached pictures on the list, especially since egroups has an
archive that we can all use.

thanks again,

Andrew
'76 CitiCar

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Mike Chancey wrote:

Hi folks,

It looks like attachments don't work on this list. I will look

into exactly

why, and see if it can be corrected. There is an alternative

though, part

of what comes with this egroup is an on-line archive for

documents and files

including images. Just go to:



and click on "files". You will find we can also do things like

polls, chat,

create a database, or add weblinks. I have already transferred

over a

number of C-Car weblinks, but feel free to add more.

Thanks,

Mike Chancey,
'88 Civic EV
Kansas City, Missouri
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My Electric Car at:
Mid-America EAA chapter at:
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Hi Everyone-

Thanks Mike for starting this list!

The attached photo worked for me too, though I would rather see a policy
of no attached pictures on the list, especially since egroups has an
archive that we can all use.

thanks again,

Andrew
'76 CitiCar

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Mike Chancey wrote:

Royce,

Good progress! The waviness in the paint is because the C-car
designers neglected to crown most of the panels. Nothing can be
perfectly flat. You can't design a flat plastic (or metal) panel with
a shiney surface and have it look right. So almost all large panels
are crowned just slightly so that they reflect light in a pleasent
way.

SAH


--- In C-Car@..., "Royce Chow KF6PEO" <rufus@i...> wrote:

Thanks for doing this Mike! C-cars are so unique they deserve their
own forum.

I guess I'll kick things off with an update on my Citicar. It is no
longer mega-seventies orange, but a more modern dark metallic

green.

This came after months of body work, because I had to graft on a

new

roof, and fix several cracks and holes (many thanks to Scott Hull).
All that is left is to install the controller (upgraded curtis 1205
500 amp), batteries (8 Trojan T875 8 volts) and fix the tires and
lights.

Here is a picture of its current state: (It's all the same color of
green, those lighter spots are reflections, something we're not

used

to seeing coming off a citicar)



It should be up and running in the next few months.

Royce Chow
rufus@i...

Hi folks,

It looks like attachments don't work on this list. I will look into exactly
why, and see if it can be corrected. There is an alternative though, part

The attachemet works fine for me. (it really does look like a smurf)

Royce Chow
rufus@...

Hi folks,

It looks like attachments don't work on this list. I will look into exactly why, and see if it can be corrected. There is an alternative though, part of what comes with this egroup is an on-line archive for documents and files including images. Just go to:



and click on "files". You will find we can also do things like polls, chat, create a database, or add weblinks. I have already transferred over a number of C-Car weblinks, but feel free to add more.

Thanks,

Mike Chancey,
'88 Civic EV
Kansas City, Missouri
EV List Photo Album at:
My Electric Car at:
Mid-America EAA chapter at:
Join the EV List at:

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Hi Royce (and all),

I have a 1980 Commutacar (that looks like it's part of the Smurf cartoon
show from the 70's).

My family calls it the "Smurf-mobile" :-) Picture is attached.

Mike
mike_holland@...

Hello Mike & all, I don't have one yet. Still Looking for one.
Tony

--
this is coming to you from Anthony Bailey KC0HZP (mailto:a636ccr@...)
Southeast Missouri State University, Cape Girardeau, Missouri 63701

Just wondering Whose here? I have a 1980 Commutacar.

Mike Holland
mike_holland@...

Thanks for doing this Mike! C-cars are so unique they deserve their
own forum.

I guess I'll kick things off with an update on my Citicar. It is no
longer mega-seventies orange, but a more modern dark metallic green.
This came after months of body work, because I had to graft on a new
roof, and fix several cracks and holes (many thanks to Scott Hull).
All that is left is to install the controller (upgraded curtis 1205
500 amp), batteries (8 Trojan T875 8 volts) and fix the tires and
lights.

Here is a picture of its current state: (It's all the same color of
green, those lighter spots are reflections, something we're not used
to seeing coming off a citicar)



It should be up and running in the next few months.

Royce Chow
rufus@...

Hi folks,

Welcome aboard! It is nice to have you with us.

This will be a moderated mailing list, so it should be safe from spamming and all that. As moderator, I have the power to add and remove list members so we should be able to keep things under control.

Thanks,

Mike Chancey,
'88 Civic EV
Kansas City, Missouri
EV List Photo Album at:
My Electric Car at:
Mid-America EAA chapter at:
Join the EV List at:

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Hi everyone,
I am wondering how many C cars are in my home town of Rochester NY?
Thanks in advance, Tom