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Let's just say there are reasons I now have a bad back. One of them is that I didn't expect to make it to age 30. There was no chance I was going to leave a good-looking corpse, so I just didn't worry about much of anything.?
Only now I'm 69, and wishing I'd taken better care of myself. Saw a neurosergeon's PA a month or so ago. I'm not bad off enough it's worth risking surgery over, yet. But not at all good.?
For you younger guys, take good care of your skeleton. You're likely to need it for a long time! Learn from my fail! Do NOT be stupid like me!
Most of the older guys know what I'm talking about here. Too long dumber than a box of rocks. ;)
But I'm at least trainable, these days.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 01:36:40 PM CDT, William Warne <williamwarne@...> wrote:
Bill is a wise man.? The job of tools such as hoists is (to a degree) to protect us from our own stupidity.? How often do we lift more than we should?? I did that just yesterday.? Sooner or later a price is paid.? I vote for conservatism and safety ... after all, I need more time to pay off the debt I owe to my wife.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:01:45 AM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
I like stuff that is way overengineered for my usages. Those tend not to break as easily, and that is what I want between my poor tender body and sharp heavy things. YMMV, of course. ;)
So far I'm OK, but if I ever manage to get a larger lathe or shaper...
OTH, if I do, I suspect my wife and kids will have me committed.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:52:57 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
There is nothing in the home, home shop, or home garage weighing 2 tons that you will ever need to lift, Bill. What you have will serve you for the rest of your life and for a significant portion of that of your heirs.
Don't waste your money on a bigger engine hoist.
I have one because I couldn't afford the two-ton hoist. Over the past 10 years or so it's worked for everything I've needed to lift. If I ever find an affordable two-ton lift, I will get it, but haven't yet actually needed one yet. Though my back isn't
getting any better!?
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 10:15:25 AM CDT, Jon Elson <elson@...> wrote:
On 8/20/24 09:40, Andrei wrote:
Can you use one of these?
Yes, I have one very similar to that one.? I rarely use it,
but have lifted a 300+ Lb surface plate up onto a table,
lifted the table off my Bridgeport R2E3, and lifted the
headstock off my Sheldon R15 lathe.? No way could I have
done any of these without the crane.
Jon
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Back surgery is the worse there is.? But sometimes the pain makes you do it.? Part of life and getting old I guess, but OKC Bill is right.? Do your best to protect what you have.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:24:31 PM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
Let's just say there are reasons I now have a bad back. One of them is that I didn't expect to make it to age 30. There was no chance I was going to leave a good-looking corpse, so I just didn't worry about much of anything.?
Only now I'm 69, and wishing I'd taken better care of myself. Saw a neurosergeon's PA a month or so ago. I'm not bad off enough it's worth risking surgery over, yet. But not at all good.?
For you younger guys, take good care of your skeleton. You're likely to need it for a long time! Learn from my fail! Do NOT be stupid like me!
Most of the older guys know what I'm talking about here. Too long dumber than a box of rocks. ;)
But I'm at least trainable, these days.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 01:36:40 PM CDT, William Warne <williamwarne@...> wrote:
Bill is a wise man.? The job of tools such as hoists is (to a degree) to protect us from our own stupidity.? How often do we lift more than we should?? I did that just yesterday.? Sooner or later a price is paid.? I vote for conservatism and safety ... after all, I need more time to pay off the debt I owe to my wife.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:01:45 AM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
I like stuff that is way overengineered for my usages. Those tend not to break as easily, and that is what I want between my poor tender body and sharp heavy things. YMMV, of course. ;)
So far I'm OK, but if I ever manage to get a larger lathe or shaper...
OTH, if I do, I suspect my wife and kids will have me committed.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:52:57 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
There is nothing in the home, home shop, or home garage weighing 2 tons that you will ever need to lift, Bill. What you have will serve you for the rest of your life and for a significant portion of that of your heirs.
Don't waste your money on a bigger engine hoist.
I have one because I couldn't afford the two-ton hoist. Over the past 10 years or so it's worked for everything I've needed to lift. If I ever find an affordable two-ton lift, I will get it, but haven't yet actually needed one yet. Though my back isn't
getting any better!?
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 10:15:25 AM CDT, Jon Elson <elson@...> wrote:
On 8/20/24 09:40, Andrei wrote:
Can you use one of these?
Yes, I have one very similar to that one.? I rarely use it,
but have lifted a 300+ Lb surface plate up onto a table,
lifted the table off my Bridgeport R2E3, and lifted the
headstock off my Sheldon R15 lathe.? No way could I have
done any of these without the crane.
Jon
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You might enjoy seeing this….Battleship New Jersey Machine Shop
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I would imagine that the machine shop for a battleship or a carrier would have been impressive.? Following a battle there would likely be need for parts that could only be supplied via an on board machine shop.? By any chance does anyone have pictures???? I doubt machinists were given the honor they were due.?
On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 09:38:32 AM PDT, William Warne < williamwarne@...> wrote:
My uncle had a lathe / mill combo salvaged from a German U-boat.? It was a nice machine.
On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 09:33:46 AM PDT, Richard Hughson < richughson@...> wrote:
With 4-wheel drive, low range, and back gears - line-up might be tricky,?but he could rebore a tank engine. On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 11:47?AM Steve Bergeron via <steve.m.bergeron= [email protected]> wrote: Plus he has 4-wheel drive on top of the back gears for serious hogging.
On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:37?AM, Richard Hughson via <richughson=[email protected]> wrote:
? I came across that picture of a lathe mounted to the back of a jeep and thought, "This'll be a good joke." But only one guy mentioned tire pressure. All the rest have been as serious as 'what oil should I use'. So, a tip of the hat to the guy who mentioned tire pressure, thank you.
Rick H Oh yes, there is always someone to raise the "but what about this situation."
For mobile units and on board ships level may not be possible. Other methods are employed to assure the bed ways are straight. So technically one could install a lathe on the inside wall of a yurt if a method to assure the ways were flat without any twist was employed.
For stationary installations such as a garage or basement workshop or factory floor using a level is by far and above the easiest method of assuring the bed ways are flat without any twist.
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Raymond
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??? ??? Not for indoor use but this guy did some upgrading of his
HF truck crane for pickup truck use .
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If that is something of interest to anyone, Western Mule makes a
"bumper foldable crane"
You replace the entire bumper with a steel plate one. The crane
extends up about 7 or so feet. There is nothing wobbly about
it.?
No idea of price, but for sure more than the harbor freight toy.
I have that same crane in my truck, it bent the bed so I
beefed up the bed area but it was still a bit wobbly. So I
welded a pivot to the top of the crane with a bracket that goes
to a beefed up top of bed rail. If you can set up something
similar that opposes the direction(s) of pull, like braces or
cables that may solve the leverage issue.
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Ken H in AZ
Knowledge is like manure, it won't do any good unless you spread
it around.
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Bill in OKC too