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The shop of all shops ?
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I have no clue what this cat spent on his shop & equipment , but
now I know where all the watchmaker lathes went . ??? Long vid , I still haven't gotten all the way through it . It's like bitchin to the 10 th power . ??? ??? Here's the auction site for those of ya that have deep pockets ??? I'll take one of the watchmakers lathes & one of the mini horizontal mills as a finders fee .? I bet there's at least 1000 collets in his shop , maybe double that . ??? animal |
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Except that it's not a shop, it's a machine and tool hoard.? The stuff shown in the video is absolute top quality, but if you look at the auction listing there is middle-of-the-road as well. A shop is something you can do work in.? Can you imagine trying to work in that place?? Or trying to find a particular tool?? I can't.? Any more than I can imagine living in one of the hoarder's houses you see on TV.? His "shop" at least appeared clean.? But not usable. John
On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 10:18:09 PM EDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
I have no clue what this cat spent on his shop & equipment , but now I know where all the watchmaker lathes went . ??? Long vid , I still haven't gotten all the way through it . It's like bitchin to the 10 th power . ??? ??? Here's the auction site for those of ya that have deep pockets ??? I'll take one of the watchmakers lathes & one of the mini horizontal mills as a finders fee .? I bet there's at least 1000 collets in his shop , maybe double that . ??? animal |
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That anvil, an Alec Steele 140lber, is over $1,500 new.? Appears to be unused.? If I were closer to MN I'd be tempted to bid on that.??
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开云体育You know Alec Steele is just a YouTube jockey? There is no telling what product quality he put his marketing label on.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bryan <byoumans80@...>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 9:57:52 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] The shop of all shops ? ?
That anvil, an Alec Steele 140lber, is over $1,500 new.? Appears to be unused.? If I were closer to MN I'd be tempted to bid on that.??
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On Sep 2, 2024, at 3:19 PM, Dave Matticks via groups.io <dpm100@...> wrote:
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A truly amazing collection.
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Re: Space... "Is it a working shop Y/N": As he was primarily doing tiny work, honestly you may only need the space to stand in one spot in front of each machine to do work. He's apparently not working on huge blanks, things with dangling parts, or raw stock fed into a machine by tripod rollers (like some of us... :-) HOWEVER, to make it a "true workspace" you DO need at least ONE clear assembly worktable/desk SOMEWHERE, to sort parts and do final assembly. (As well as storage for raw parts & unused jigs inventory.) As the video was mainly focusing on the machinery, they may not have show everything. Now if he IS missing that, then yes I'd agree it's more of a tool hoard than a true workspace. (But an envious hoard!... ;-) In my case, to optimize space (other than big fixed items that mustn't flex) I've been slowly working on mounting each smaller machine on its own movable base. Eventually it'll allow dynamic workspace reconfiguration, per project need. Once done, I can easily shuffle the shop around, and roll the unneeded equipment WAY out of the way, to a designated area. (I've also made my parts shelving edge-on, with side-side wheels, to shift them. This makes "one" "opening space", maximizing my storage wall as well. :-) But in that video, I didn't see any mobility.. I have to give him kudos on the sheer density of equipment (IOW to maximize his abilities) in a fixed space, but I too am curious how a true workday would be executed. Good points all. - Keith Mc. --- "Marble buildings are OK, but they tend to roll away..." ---------------------------- On 2024-09-02 3:56 pm, Brian Cayer wrote:
I just happy the machines will be released from Machine Purgatory. |
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I finally listened/watched all of it.
unbelievable that he had all those rooms full. I wonder how big the house was because there was no visible place sit down.
it is really amazing that there did not appear to be any rust. At least on any that I saw. Here in TX we would have condensation and rust on everything not oiled in a week or less. He must have had one tremendous dehumidifier.? |
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I thought my work shops were cluttered....? I don't have anywhere near that amount of machinery and tooling but I'm on my way... three lathes, 5 drill presses, horizontal mill, 20T hyd, press, 6 T homegrown hyd press, arbor press, 30" x 16' saw mill, wood planer, RAS, jointer, router w/slab table, 3 oxy/gas torch kits, 2 welding machines, plasma cutter, two pedestal grinders, 16T pipe bender, assortment of angle grinders, three roll-away cabinets, two Gerstner cabinets, more more and more.....
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Well you do need cabinetry to hold everything.
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It's the REDUNDANCY I'm trying to understand, especially when you have limited space. Now I can understand 2-3 of SOME items (ie drill presses) so you can have different setups for speed, and multiple TYPES of other items (ie welders, grinders, et al). But yea I too am having a hard time wrapping my head around having *5* drill presses, THAT many torches etc. ... Unless it's a group worksite {but then you'd need MORE open space(s)}. Wow... I don't feel so bad about MY tool collection anymore.. <grin> - Keith Mc. --- "Brought to you by the Department of Repetition and Redundancy Department..." mondosmetals wrote: I thought my work shops were cluttered....? I don't have anywhere near |
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The way auctioneers work, is this:
Makes for great advertising, great foot traffic, and hopefully higher sale numbers and higher buyer and seller premiums for the auction house.?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Keith Mc via groups.io <acti@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2024 2:55 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] The shop of all shops ? ?
Well you do need cabinetry to hold everything. It's the REDUNDANCY I'm trying to understand, especially when you have limited space. Now I can understand 2-3 of SOME items (ie drill presses) so you can have different setups for speed, and multiple TYPES of other items (ie welders, grinders, et al). But yea I too am having a hard time wrapping my head around having *5* drill presses, THAT many torches etc. ... Unless it's a group worksite {but then you'd need MORE open space(s)}. Wow... I don't feel so bad about MY tool collection anymore.. <grin> - Keith Mc. --- "Brought to you by the Department of Repetition and Redundancy Department..." mondosmetals wrote: I thought my work shops were cluttered....? I don't have anywhere near |
开云体育??? Ya forgot to mention that some of the folks ya may be bidding against work for them to drive the bids up . ??? animal On 9/4/24 1:06 PM, Andrei wrote:
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LOL!!!!?? Three drill presses are operational:
Delta 17-950L purchased new in 2009 is in the garage
Atlas 1060 in the lathe shop in the cellar,
Craftsman 137-219001 - a little benchtop in the wood shop.
A Craftsman 101-03622? is waiting for me to put it back together - needs a motor
Another old Atlas is a basket of parts acquired cheap
Three lathes: One c 1935 Craftsman was my first one, I completed rebuilt it in 2009 and that's my working lathe. A 1970 vintage Craftsman Commercial I acquired? as a package of parts is waiting for me to assemble it. It's been waiting for 12 years. The third is a South Bend heavy 10 that was gifted to me by a machine shop that needed space for a new CNC machine. It is currently stored in a drafty but dry barn waiting for rebuild and a place to set it up- same as the Craftsman Commercial. Three torch kits: One mini O/A kit with MC Acetylene cylinder was the first I acquired pre-2000, then I upgraded to a B cylinder because the MC runs out too fast, and as my needs for heat increased I set up a full size cart with Oxy/Propane - 150 cuft Oxy (Size S)? and an 60 pound propane cylinder. That was 12 years ago. I swap out the Oxy cylinder once or twice a year (that's about 16 times) but have not yet refilled the propane cylinder - it's about 1/4 full now. By the time it will need to be refilled it will be out of test date and cheaper to just purchase another cylinder. Metal saws: JET 4x7 horizontal band saw
Atlas 4350 power hack saw Wood Saws:
10" Craftsman tabletop? - a dinky thing I got at a yard sale for $30 2 Craftsman Radial Arm Saws, both acquired used, one worked for about three years and the motor died, the other needs a blade and carriage bearings
Dewalt 9" model 925H This works well, I am currently building in feed and out feed tables for it. Planer: DeWalt DW735 relatively new
Jointer: Reliant 6" long bed
Sawmill: Woodland Mills HM130MAX (2021) 30 in x 16ft - Makes my lumber from trees on the property or logs I get from local tree service companies.
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Ask me if I am busy.....
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? ?Sounds like me. Spend all my time keeping shop tools working.
On Thursday, September 5, 2024 at 09:01:22 AM EDT, mondosmetals <jwrey@...> wrote:
LOL!!!!?? Three drill presses are operational:
Delta 17-950L purchased new in 2009 is in the garage
Atlas 1060 in the lathe shop in the cellar,
Craftsman 137-219001 - a little benchtop in the wood shop.
A Craftsman 101-03622? is waiting for me to put it back together - needs a motor
Another old Atlas is a basket of parts acquired cheap
Three lathes: One c 1935 Craftsman was my first one, I completed rebuilt it in 2009 and that's my working lathe. A 1970 vintage Craftsman Commercial I acquired? as a package of parts is waiting for me to assemble it. It's been waiting for 12 years. The third is a South Bend heavy 10 that was gifted to me by a machine shop that needed space for a new CNC machine. It is currently stored in a drafty but dry barn waiting for rebuild and a place to set it up- same as the Craftsman Commercial. Three torch kits: One mini O/A kit with MC Acetylene cylinder was the first I acquired pre-2000, then I upgraded to a B cylinder because the MC runs out too fast, and as my needs for heat increased I set up a full size cart with Oxy/Propane - 150 cuft Oxy (Size S)? and an 60 pound propane cylinder. That was 12 years ago. I swap out the Oxy cylinder once or twice a year (that's about 16 times) but have not yet refilled the propane cylinder - it's about 1/4 full now. By the time it will need to be refilled it will be out of test date and cheaper to just purchase another cylinder. Metal saws: JET 4x7 horizontal band saw
Atlas 4350 power hack saw Wood Saws:
10" Craftsman tabletop? - a dinky thing I got at a yard sale for $30 2 Craftsman Radial Arm Saws, both acquired used, one worked for about three years and the motor died, the other needs a blade and carriage bearings
Dewalt 9" model 925H This works well, I am currently building in feed and out feed tables for it. Planer: DeWalt DW735 relatively new
Jointer: Reliant 6" long bed
Sawmill: Woodland Mills HM130MAX (2021) 30 in x 16ft - Makes my lumber from trees on the property or logs I get from local tree service companies.
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I've bought many things through this auction company over the years and I think they're totally above board.? Several people in my local hobby machinist group in the Minneapolis area apparently knew this guy and it's all real.? Clearly he was hoarding, but I guess he was a fine machinist too.? Because of the extent of this auction it's getting a lot more widespread publicity than Premier's auctions usually do, which will probably result in higher prices for many of the more popular or sought-after items (so I may not end up bidding on anything even though I'm local).? Having followed Premier's auctions for years I can definitely attest that this one is unique!
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开云体育??? ??? so how do ya like the Oxy/Propane setup ? What can/can't ya do with teh Oxy/Propae vs Oxy/Act ? ??? thanks ??? animal On 9/5/24 6:01 AM, mondosmetals wrote:
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On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 09:38 AM, William Burton wrote:
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This is what a shop looks like after a person suffers from a 10 year long decline due to cancer, only to be compounded by the lock down.? You can clearly see he had a tight and efficient setup underneath the surface clutter.
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I'm still recovering from a major surgery 11 months ago, and my shop has never looked worse.? I'm inclined to show a little grace here for the deceased.
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I, like Bill Burton, have bid on and won many things from Premier Machinery Auctions. I agree with Bill, they are a top notch auction company.
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I am also one of the people in the "Twin Cities Home Machinists" group who knew Russell Garrens personally, and I can attest to his skills as a machinist, and to the fact that he did indeed use the equipment in his shop.? I have attended many live machine shop auctions with Russell back in the day when that was a thing, and when Russ was there also, (which was most of them) I stood very little chance of out bidding him for things we both wanted.??
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Bear in Mind that this is not a "one and done" auction.? Premier estimates it will take at least 12 Auctions of 400 to 500 lots each, over the course of the next year to get through this shop.??
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I would also like to point out that Russell's shop did not always look like this? The clutter and apparent disarray is a combination of the Covid lockdowns, and a Cancer diagnosis and Russell's attempt to cope with all that he was going through.?
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Someone please tell me Russell Garrens didn't die of lung cancer. I think a few good machinists inhaled too many particulates, grinding dust, and coolant mist and their work killed them in the end. I think about this every time I pick up something initialled by the German toolmaker whose stuff I ended up with. As I went through his shop I found bunches of empty pill bottles from his lung cancer drugs. Tim |
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RE: Raymonds commet about building in/out feed tables for his Dewalt. I have been using Habor Freight telescoping roller stands for infeed & outfeed supports with pretty good luck. Inexpensive, easy to store, fast to set up, good for infrequent use. If I wanted
something for a heavily used setup. I'd build in/out feed tables. |
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