Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
Bill, I agree 110%! Some times you just have to work with whats available. When I made mine I just happened to come across a slug of 8620 that was free. I did not harden it, and has performed
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ram50v8efi
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
Where is Jody going to get a forge and how will he keep it at 1000+ degrees for several hours? Typos are courtesy of autocorrect. ________________________________ Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020
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Andrei
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
Once the collet chuck is finished machined it must be hardened that also includes 4140?? GP
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Guenther Paul
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
If you use "tool steel" and don't harden it that might even set you back!When you buy a slug of O1,? A2, whatever it's not even near ready!Bare, marginal minimum in my opinion would be 4140
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Dave Matticks
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
Or you can put it in a metal box or can packed with carbon, scraps of leather or horn, or a few other things, seal it, and put it in a forge and keep it red-hot for several hours. Then dump and
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Bill in OKC too
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
As long as it's really true in the end.Dave?Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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Dave Matticks
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
1018 can be hardened by carburizing. It takes hours at high temperatures, it takes a special furnace where they pump carbon monoxide and sulphur and other stuff. Definitely not something you can do at
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Andrei
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
Glenn sticking 1018 in water will not harden its a waist of time GP
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Guenther Paul
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
For hobby use, as hard as you can get it...When you are almost done with the taper, heat it to 1500F* and quench in water. Then grind the finish taper. First thing you should do IMO is make an 1 1/2 8
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Glenn N <glennsneff@...>
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
I send a drawing for you GP
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Guenther Paul
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
JodyThe only thing you can have done to 1018 is case harden it. Case hardening will do for a while. The hardness is about 0.010 - 0.15 deep depends on who does it. You have to take it to a hardening
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Guenther Paul
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#107309
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
1018 is mild steel. It won't heat-treat, though you can case-harden it. It's ok to machine, HSS ground for steel and honed sharp will get you a decent finish. It won't last as long as 4140, it won't
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Bill in OKC too
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#107308
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
So I went by the metal store by the house and picked up a 3" 1018 round bar drop off for a few bucks.? Very little round bar to choose from so I grabbed a piece of what they had since its only a few
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Jody
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
Thanks GP,?Yes I bought the nut already.? That is the drawing I have from either you or Steve Haskill.-JodySent via the Samsung Galaxy S10+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
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Jody
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
Jody, 12L14 is leaded, and can't be hardened. More or less. You can case harden it, but the metal under the case will remain relatively soft. Where using it is a benefit is in ease of machining. If
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Bill in OKC too
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#107305
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
I agree.? The benefit of the set-tru feature is that it allows one to easily correct for inaccuracies introduced by the collet nut and also the collets themselves.? My set of 5C's vary +/- 0.0004",
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Bill Buckalew
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
Jody? ?4140 is fine? if you are planing to take it to a heat treat place GP
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Guenther Paul
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
This is for the collet chuck maker. I would buy the front nut. GP
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Guenther Paul
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
A collet chuck needs a hardened surface where the collet"s contact the taper of the chuck. You can use a oil hardening steel or water hardening. Make sure you do it properly and watch the colors of
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Guenther Paul
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Re: Making an ER40 Collet Chuck
GP, What about 12L14 or 4140? They are good carbon steels, but I'm not sure if they would be hard enough. -Jody
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Jody
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