Is it a gear that can be 3D printed ? Theres several Craftsman
lathe print files that can be DL 'd online .
animal
On 5/4/24 6:07 PM, Matt Clayborne via
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It’s possible that the part you need may be identical to a older model lathe.? Atlas typically likes to keep everything the same for each model over the years.? I agree that calling Clausing may help.? If you don’t have any luck, reply back here with pictures and dimensions.?
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On May 4, 2024, at 6:07?PM, Matt Clayborne via groups.io <matt.clayborne@...> wrote:
?Thank you very much for your response. I sent an email out to clausing this morning and searched Ebay with no luck. Hoping someone who sees this either has one theyd part with or know someone who might as the two avenues I haven't had luck with.?
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Thank you very much for your response. I sent an email out to clausing this morning and searched Ebay with no luck. Hoping someone who sees this either has one theyd part with or know someone who might as the two avenues I haven't had luck with.?
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Below is a screen shot from my manual parts diagram.? Searching eBay may be one possible source.? Calling Clausing may be a better chance, but I don't have the number.? When I did have the number, they didn't have the part I was after (drive coupler) but did send a factory drawing.? Not sure that would help you, however.
Rick
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One of my Atlas's gears lost a tooth and took out the drive gear attached to the drive pulley. The part number 560-194 is stamped in it. I see plenty of parts for the 618 but none for the MK2. Can a part be found for purchase, or is my lathe now an paper weight?
Thanks for your consideration to those who respond.
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Atlas did not make parts to fit quick change tool holders....AXA, BXA, or any others.
They did, however, make the tool shown in the attached picture from an Atlas catalog of the time.
This states it will hold 3/16, 1/4, 5/16, and 3/8" boring bars.
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Is that fit on AXA holder.
thanks Nick
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Like new Boring bar holder, fits 1/4,3/8 and 5/8 inch dia. boring bars, will fit any 10 or 12 inch Atlas or craftsman lathe. Selling for $29 plus shipping. Contact R Eggleston at 417-840-6258 CTZ.
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Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps
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On 4/21/24 9:01 AM, wa5jat/Jim Hudson
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Most of the scrap metal places in the DFW area will not allow you
in their yard now due to liability. Two nnty five years ago, I was
able to roam the yard and pick up material, but OSHA got invilved
and they now have a cop guarding the entrance. Bummer!
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Most of the scrap metal places in the DFW area will not allow you in their yard now due to liability. Two nnty five years ago, I was able to roam the yard and pick up material, but OSHA got invilved and they now have a cop guarding the entrance. Bummer!
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Thanks for more great info everyone.? Thankfully I have an abundance of tools.? ?My dad and two grandfathers left me more than enough and a great variety.? My two grandfathers were both machinists (on with his own business/shop) and so I have their taps, dies, reamers, drill bit sets, sharpening stones, chisels, punches, micrometers (etc.),? as well as bench grinders, drill presses, planers, jointers, sanding machines of various types, etc.? I understand I have been blessed in this way and do not take it for granted that I find it rare to actually need to buy a tool to get a job done.?
However, the two things I did not get handed down to me were a metal lathe a milling machines!? The ones in the family were located 1500 miles from me when my grandfather passed on and I did not have shipping freight or room at the time to get them to me.
I have the video course from Mr. Pete instructing how to grind bits, what to use, instructions to practice the angles on softer metal and then move to actual bits etc.? Just have yet to try it, but that will be soon with a good review of Mr Pete's videos!
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I am taking TAM 141 and TAM 105.? Basically 8am to 2pm twice a week of running a mill and a lathe.? They waived the pre-requisites for math and print reading.? Back in the 70's those were normal high school classes and they figured I could easily handle it :-)
Dave
Hi Dave, didn't know I could audit at MCC. would the? course you mention happen to be? Manufaturing Processes 1, MET-103?
I see a? Solidworks class too that might be good refresher. Have you taken any of those?
Kevin B.
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Hi Dave, didn't know I could audit at MCC. would the? course you mention happen to be? Manufaturing Processes 1, MET-103?
I see a? Solidworks class too that might be good refresher. Have you taken any of those?
Kevin B.
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??? What kind of tool post are ya using ? That has a effect on
how you grind yer tool bits . Look at the tooling that came with
the lathe & find the bits that ya have gotten the best results
with . Those can be yer models . If you don't have one get a
protractor like this General tool one & look at the angles on
the bits . If those angles work for ya for now now ya have a
target for when ya start grinding bits . If I use my grinder I
have one with a white wheel that gets most of my use for a grinder
. I use my upright belt sander for all my rough grinding & the
white wheel for the final grind before hitting the bit with a
small diamond file . The white wheels run cooler . We kinda need
to know the tool post type before we start tossing angles &
relief out there .
Little machine shop has this page for descriptions of what angle
is what
animal
On 4/19/24 7:39 AM, Lbrewer42 wrote:
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As always everyone here has given great ideas which I really
appreciate!? At present I am Rookie enough I have yet to grind my
first bit.? I bought a used system where the owner had a lot of
them already and so just to get an idea of how the machine
runs/works I have used the ones he already had without touching
them up.? So far so good.? I like to plan way ahead and so the
answers here have been very enlightening and I will definitely be
using the info.
At present I do not plan in getting into any large projects, but
just want to have fun with the lathe.? Maybe someday I will take
up something serious, but for now it is just about some hands on
researching with bits and metals.? I am very cautious having
worked with all manor of woodworking machinery all of my life and
never had an injury from it (60 years old).? And I certainly am
planning to use the same amount of caution and respect for my
venture into metal working machinery so as not ruin that record.
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Amen, Kevin! I spent 7 years and 3 months taking a course in precision manual machining. It should last 8-9 months if you go full-time, and I started that way, but reinforced my knowledge that I'm no longer a teenager.? :)
That taught me a lot about machining, and provided a pretty good scrap pile, as well. Projects that I messed up for class plus the projects others tossed added to my pile. Plus the instructors encouraged my pack rat behavior...?
Ain't free, but Amazon & eBay can help fill in when you need specific materials, and check for a Metals Supermarket, or similar suppliers in your area. I have a steel yard a mile from my house. Comes in handy now and then. Also a couple miles away is a fastener supply place, and you can buy any kind of screws or bolts you might need, and drops from their screw machines. They will even make custom fasteAnd the local Metals Supermarket is only about 7 miles...?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 12:13:28 PM CDT, Kevin McEnhill <mcenhillk@...> wrote:
I would at least get a stone to regrind/freshen your bits. A simple big-box-store/chineseium?bench grinder would also be good enough. Learning to cut with dull tools is a recipe for frustration. Yes, there are specific relief?angles to get the best results but even the most inappropriately?ground sharp tool will cut much better than a dull tool with the exact proper relief angles. Get your tool on center and start playing. Start small and light and work your way up. These machines start talking to you when they aren't happy. Part of "learning the lathe" is learning what they are saying to you.
For me, I have to constantly?repeat to myself "Perfection is the enemy of good." The most important thing you could do right now is start cutting. Since you aren't a job shop, you can afford to take your time and learn as you go. You will f*ck up and you will break something. Just don't get hurt doing it and learn from the mistake.
Welcome to the addiction. None of us here have a problem. :-)
Kevin
As always everyone here has given great ideas which I really appreciate!? At present I am Rookie enough I have yet to grind my first bit.? I bought a used system where the owner had a lot of them already and so just to get an idea of how the machine runs/works I have used the ones he already had without touching them up.? So far so good.? I like to plan way ahead and so the answers here have been very enlightening and I will definitely be using the info.
At present I do not plan in getting into any large projects, but just want to have fun with the lathe.? Maybe someday I will take up something serious, but for now it is just about some hands on researching with bits and metals.? I am very cautious having worked with all manor of woodworking machinery all of my life and never had an injury from it (60 years old).? And I certainly am planning to use the same amount of caution and respect for my venture into metal working machinery so as not ruin that record.
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Lots of misinformation here. Aluminum alloys come in. Many flavors. One can melt down aluminum and add alloying metals to get what one wants. Wrought/extruded Al alloys are not same as cast Al, nor extruded Al alloys.
Aluminum cans are quite amazing stuff, but not good for the purposes suggested.
Die cast is different from simple gravity cast, too.
Most alloys we can find and buy are extrusion or wrought alloys 6063, 6061, 7075 all are different.? T6 and such are NOT alloys, just heat treatment levels. Melt and cast these and you have different numbers.
It’s a big field. I’ve had experiences with some parts of it.
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Cans aren't a good source of Al. I collect lawnmower crankcases er... actually I have way too many. Just a few will give you loads of stock. Also I have a car rim I found while out on a walk. I might even have two. I poured some Al into tin cans and peeled off the can.
Use cast Al, not extruded like cans and window frames. Extruded Al is gummy and a pita to work with. Cast is an alloy with other metals in it that stiffen it.
A good trick is breaking up the cases so they fit in my steel tubing crucible. I have a band saw which helps. Some guys break them up with mauls etc. Also they are greasy and if you have a cement mixer you can fill it full of sand and throw the pieces in and they get cleaned that way. The grease in the melt is smelly when burned and increases the floating scum. But it's all good and fun. Also you can simply pour billets in damp sand, but then you get sand embedded in the billets when they cool if you are not careful (which I'm frequently not).
People leave lawn mowers beside the road etc. One or two will last you a good while. Also be on the lookout for a big sturdy steel canister or bucket for a forge. I have a big one from an old metal shop vac.
I think Al melting is a great pasttime.
On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 10:16:10 AM EDT, Lbrewer42 < lbrewer_42@...> wrote:
Yes, I have a local Tractor supply etc. where I can buy metal. But as with most subjects, I find experienced people have tricks up their sleeve. I just want some stuff to learn to turn with. B/c I am not experienced I am thinking old railroad spikes, making a forge and melting aluminum cans (I know its low grade, but i just want to learn to make chips with different metals), large bolts, etc. But what are some ideas other hobbyists have found for obtaining metal to turn while not cracking open the wallet and shelling out big bucks? I don't even have projects in mind really, just wanting the hands on experience with different metals.
Thanks for any ideas,
Lee
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Cans aren't a good source of Al. I collect lawnmower crankcases er... actually I have way too many. Just a few will give you loads of stock. Also I have a car rim I found while out on a walk. I might even have two. I poured some Al into tin cans and peeled off the can.
Use cast Al, not extruded like cans and window frames. Extruded Al is gummy and a pita to work with. Cast is an alloy with other metals in it that stiffen it.
A good trick is breaking up the cases so they fit in my steel tubing crucible. I have a band saw which helps. Some guys break them up with mauls etc. Also they are greasy and if you have a cement mixer you can fill it full of sand and throw the pieces in and they get cleaned that way. The grease in the melt is smelly when burned and increases the floating scum. But it's all good and fun. Also you can simply pour billets in damp sand, but then you get sand embedded in the billets when they cool if you are not careful (which I'm frequently not).
People leave lawn mowers beside the road etc. One or two will last you a good while. Also be on the lookout for a big sturdy steel canister or bucket for a forge. I have a big one from an old metal shop vac.
I think Al melting is a great pasttime.
On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 10:16:10 AM EDT, Lbrewer42 <lbrewer_42@...> wrote:
Yes, I have a local Tractor supply etc. where I can buy metal. But as with most subjects, I find experienced people have tricks up their sleeve. I just want some stuff to learn to turn with. B/c I am not experienced I am thinking old railroad spikes, making a forge and melting aluminum cans (I know its low grade, but i just want to learn to make chips with different metals), large bolts, etc. But what are some ideas other hobbyists have found for obtaining metal to turn while not cracking open the wallet and shelling out big bucks? I don't even have projects in mind really, just wanting the hands on experience with different metals.
Thanks for any ideas,
Lee
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Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps
I would at least get a stone to regrind/freshen your bits. A simple big-box-store/chineseium?bench grinder would also be good enough. Learning to cut with dull tools is a recipe for frustration. Yes, there are specific relief?angles to get the best results but even the most inappropriately?ground sharp tool will cut much better than a dull tool with the exact proper relief angles. Get your tool on center and start playing. Start small and light and work your way up. These machines start talking to you when they aren't happy. Part of "learning the lathe" is learning what they are saying to you.
For me, I have to constantly?repeat to myself "Perfection is the enemy of good." The most important thing you could do right now is start cutting. Since you aren't a job shop, you can afford to take your time and learn as you go. You will f*ck up and you will break something. Just don't get hurt doing it and learn from the mistake.
Welcome to the addiction. None of us here have a problem. :-)
Kevin
As always everyone here has given great ideas which I really appreciate!? At present I am Rookie enough I have yet to grind my first bit.? I bought a used system where the owner had a lot of them already and so just to get an idea of how the machine runs/works I have used the ones he already had without touching them up.? So far so good.? I like to plan way ahead and so the answers here have been very enlightening and I will definitely be using the info.
At present I do not plan in getting into any large projects, but just want to have fun with the lathe.? Maybe someday I will take up something serious, but for now it is just about some hands on researching with bits and metals.? I am very cautious having worked with all manor of woodworking machinery all of my life and never had an injury from it (60 years old).? And I certainly am planning to use the same amount of caution and respect for my venture into metal working machinery so as not ruin that record.
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You might want to look into a class at a local community college.? I am in NY and if you are 60 or over you can audit (no credit) classes in state colleges and community colleges for free.? I am doing that now at Monroe Community College in Rochester NY.? The rest of the class is younger people picking up work skills.? Because I am there to get skills for my home shop they are tailoring the projects more to building tooling for my shop.? The instructors are a couple guys that were in the industry and really know their stuff and how to communicate it.? Check to see if your local college has a similar program.? It is call senior citizen audit here.
Dave
As always everyone here has given great ideas which I really appreciate!? At present I am Rookie enough I have yet to grind my first bit.? I bought a used system where the owner had a lot of them already and so just to get an idea of how the machine runs/works I have used the ones he already had without touching them up.? So far so good.? I like to plan way ahead and so the answers here have been very enlightening and I will definitely be using the info.
At present I do not plan in getting into any large projects, but just want to have fun with the lathe.? Maybe someday I will take up something serious, but for now it is just about some hands on researching with bits and metals.? I am very cautious having worked with all manor of woodworking machinery all of my life and never had an injury from it (60 years old).? And I certainly am planning to use the same amount of caution and respect for my venture into metal working machinery so as not ruin that record.
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Jim F
Renaissance 1
wa5jat/Jim Hudson
Lbrewer42
Bill in OKC too