Re: AXA or BXA

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James, I'm familiar with Sherman.

I'm over by Eagle Mtn Lake in Fort Worth.

I worked in Tulsa for awhile as a stress analyst on the Boeing 787 program. I would cut over to Sherman from Gainsville and then head north to Tulsa from there.

I like Sherman area a lot.? Larger trees than what we have Fort Worth.? SE quadrant of OK is nice too....wouldn't mind getting some property there.

-Jody

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-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 10:42 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

Not too far from DFW, I live in Sherman.? He was making the receivers for a custom rifle maker in Montana.? I'm not going to use the steels for gun parts but for making tools.? It will heat treat well enough for my purposes and I've had decent luck TIG welding both 416 and 41L40 with proper preheating before welding and post weld heat treatment.??

James

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:21 PM Charles <xlch58@...> wrote:

I am guessing you live in the Dallas area since I saw the same deal here and almost bought him out.? The issue for me is leaded steels are less than ideal for gun receivers or barrels and are difficult to weld or heat treat. ?

Charles

On Jan 16, 2019, at 7:19 PM, James Rice <james.rice@...> wrote:

I bought the 9.5mm version back when it was called a A9.5.? It was listed for lathes of 9" to 12" swing.? I didn't have the South Bend 9A back then but I felt the next size they carried was a B16 was going to be too large for the Atlas Craftsman 12x36.? As it turned out the 9.5 size has been perfect for both lathes.? What I wish I had purchased at the time was a T6 or 6mm version that takes a 1/8" bit. It was for a 3" to 6" swing lathe which would have been perfect for my 6x18 Atlas-Craftsman lathe. I later bought a set of the new style 9.5mm holders which have a different angle on the tool holder compared to the older version but use the same bit geometry.? I think I'm about to order a 20mm set for my South Bend 16" but I'm going to continue my project to make several of my own type of holder just to see how they turn out.??

I haven't been spending much time in the shop for the past couple of years.? I spent the last 4 years at the local community college taking 4 semesters of welding and 3 semesters of auto body classes.? I have this spring semester to go and I'll be finished with the auto body courses and will receive associated degrees number 3 and 4 in May as well as the 3 AWS welding certifications I've already earned. So I've been thinking about new shop projects to tackle and old ones to finish.? To forward those intentions, I recently purchased 20 bars of 1-3/8"x72" 41L40 steel as well as 5-600# of 416SS and 41L40 cutoffs the same diameter and in assorted lengths of 3" to 12" from a gun receiver maker who advertised them on Craigslist for $5 a bar.? He sold me the lot of cutoffs for $20 dollars more.? Since the going rate for a 1-3/8"x72" bar of 41L40 is $185 and the rate for 416SS bar is $6.25 an inch at the metal suppliers, I jumped on it. The guy originally had almost 100 bars to sell but some other hobby machinists got there first so I took what he had left.? It was close to half a ton of oil hardening and free machining tool and stainless steel for a bargain price. So as my lovely wife puts it, "I have some more innocent pieces of metal to torture".?

James?

Re: Carriage Stop and Indicator

#102196

Admittedly this is very crude but it stops the carriage where I need it to. I show it only to suggest that you can get work done without going overboard/over budget/over complicated. The adjustment bolt is 1/4 20 so each full turn is .05" so the adjustment is (again) crude but functional. I needed one in a hurry and built this in less than a 1/2 hour. It has been sufficient for my home shop purposes for several years now. It is just a scrap cut to a "C" shape on the power saw with 2 holes drilled and tapped, a toilet bolt, thumb screw and nut from my junk/bolt drawer. If Necessity is the mother of invention, a good junk drawer/scrap pile is the father! Cost $0.00, stopping the carriage from hitting the chuck, priceless ; )
Did I mention it is crude?

Ken H in AZ

Re: Atlas metal lathe manual

#102195

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Beats me what I was thinking of.? Word in 2^nd sentence below should be “download”, not “unload”.

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Robert Downs

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Downs via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 17:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Atlas metal lathe manual

?

???,

?

Your lathe is a Babbit bearing Series 10F.? It was made around September of 1942.

?

You can unload a parts manual for the 10F from the Group Files section.?

?

The Owner’s or Operator’s manual will be the correct version of the Atlas Manual of Lathe Operation (or MOLO for short).? Because the final edition is still available from Clausing (so it is still in print), we have elected to play it safe and not upload earlier versions of the MOLO to Files.? Originals show up regularly on eBay.? Average price is around $25 to $35.? Most sellers have no idea that there were 10 (at least) different versions and 33 Editions printed between 1937 and 1988.? If you download the MOLO History documents (two) from Files, they will tell you what version you need and how to identify it.? The choice is made more complicated because Atlas did not begin putting the print year and Edition number on the Copyright page until the 16^th edition in 1953.? Those (one for Atlas and one for Craftsman) have no information on the Babbit spindle bearings.? So the one you want will first off only say Copyright 1937 on the Copyright page.? Then on the change gear chart it should say in part “10F Series”, instead of Craftsman or 6”.? Beyond that, read the History and the Selection chart.? If you have any remaining questions after that, ask them.

?

Robert Downs

WA5CAB

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of blw6772 via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 15:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Atlas metal lathe manual

?

Hey , l have purchased a V48 Atlas metal lathe Serial # 039466 . Anyone know any way l can get a parts manual / owners manual ? Any reprints or Vintage press company’s out there ? I have been searching high and low ?. Any help will
be really appreciated !

Re: Carriage Stop and Indicator

#102194

Jody, you should check out Rick Sparbers low cost DRO's Here is one of them:

Ken H in AZ

Re: Atlas metal lathe manual

#102193

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Beats me where my mind was.? Third word in second sentence below should have been “download”, not “unload”.

?

Robert Downs

?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Downs via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 17:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Atlas metal lathe manual

?

???,

?

Your lathe is a Babbit bearing Series 10F.? It was made around September of 1942.

?

You can unload a parts manual for the 10F from the Group Files section.?

?

_,_._,_

Re: AXA or BXA

James Rice

#102192

Not too far from DFW, I live in Sherman.? He was making the receivers for a custom rifle maker in Montana.? I'm not going to use the steels for gun parts but for making tools.? It will heat treat well enough for my purposes and I've had decent luck TIG welding both 416 and 41L40 with proper preheating before welding and post weld heat treatment.??

James

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On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:21 PM Charles <xlch58@...> wrote:

I am guessing you live in the Dallas area since I saw the same deal here and almost bought him out.? The issue for me is leaded steels are less than ideal for gun receivers or barrels and are difficult to weld or heat treat. ?

Charles

On Jan 16, 2019, at 7:19 PM, James Rice <james.rice@...> wrote:

I bought the 9.5mm version back when it was called a A9.5.? It was listed for lathes of 9" to 12" swing.? I didn't have the South Bend 9A back then but I felt the next size they carried was a B16 was going to be too large for the Atlas Craftsman 12x36.? As it turned out the 9.5 size has been perfect for both lathes.? What I wish I had purchased at the time was a T6 or 6mm version that takes a 1/8" bit. It was for a 3" to 6" swing lathe which would have been perfect for my 6x18 Atlas-Craftsman lathe. I later bought a set of the new style 9.5mm holders which have a different angle on the tool holder compared to the older version but use the same bit geometry.? I think I'm about to order a 20mm set for my South Bend 16" but I'm going to continue my project to make several of my own type of holder just to see how they turn out.??

I haven't been spending much time in the shop for the past couple of years.? I spent the last 4 years at the local community college taking 4 semesters of welding and 3 semesters of auto body classes.? I have this spring semester to go and I'll be finished with the auto body courses and will receive associated degrees number 3 and 4 in May as well as the 3 AWS welding certifications I've already earned. So I've been thinking about new shop projects to tackle and old ones to finish.? To forward those intentions, I recently purchased 20 bars of 1-3/8"x72" 41L40 steel as well as 5-600# of 416SS and 41L40 cutoffs the same diameter and in assorted lengths of 3" to 12" from a gun receiver maker who advertised them on Craigslist for $5 a bar.? He sold me the lot of cutoffs for $20 dollars more.? Since the going rate for a 1-3/8"x72" bar of 41L40 is $185 and the rate for 416SS bar is $6.25 an inch at the metal suppliers, I jumped on it. The guy originally had almost 100 bars to sell but some other hobby machinists got there first so I took what he had left.? It was close to half a ton of oil hardening and free machining tool and stainless steel for a bargain price. So as my lovely wife puts it, "I have some more innocent pieces of metal to torture".?

James?

Re: AXA or BXA

#102191

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I am guessing you live in the Dallas area since I saw the same deal here and almost bought him out. ?The issue for me is leaded steels are less than ideal for gun receivers or barrels and are difficult to weld or heat treat. ?

Charles

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On Jan 16, 2019, at 7:19 PM, James Rice <james.rice@...> wrote:

I bought the 9.5mm version back when it was called a A9.5.? It was listed for lathes of 9" to 12" swing.? I didn't have the South Bend 9A back then but I felt the next size they carried was a B16 was going to be too large for the Atlas Craftsman 12x36.? As it turned out the 9.5 size has been perfect for both lathes.? What I wish I had purchased at the time was a T6 or 6mm version that takes a 1/8" bit. It was for a 3" to 6" swing lathe which would have been perfect for my 6x18 Atlas-Craftsman lathe. I later bought a set of the new style 9.5mm holders which have a different angle on the tool holder compared to the older version but use the same bit geometry.? I think I'm about to order a 20mm set for my South Bend 16" but I'm going to continue my project to make several of my own type of holder just to see how they turn out.??

I haven't been spending much time in the shop for the past couple of years.? I spent the last 4 years at the local community college taking 4 semesters of welding and 3 semesters of auto body classes.? I have this spring semester to go and I'll be finished with the auto body courses and will receive associated degrees number 3 and 4 in May as well as the 3 AWS welding certifications I've already earned. So I've been thinking about new shop projects to tackle and old ones to finish.? To forward those intentions, I recently purchased 20 bars of 1-3/8"x72" 41L40 steel as well as 5-600# of 416SS and 41L40 cutoffs the same diameter and in assorted lengths of 3" to 12" from a gun receiver maker who advertised them on Craigslist for $5 a bar.? He sold me the lot of cutoffs for $20 dollars more.? Since the going rate for a 1-3/8"x72" bar of 41L40 is $185 and the rate for 416SS bar is $6.25 an inch at the metal suppliers, I jumped on it. The guy originally had almost 100 bars to sell but some other hobby machinists got there first so I took what he had left.? It was close to half a ton of oil hardening and free machining tool and stainless steel for a bargain price. So as my lovely wife puts it, "I have some more innocent pieces of metal to torture".?

James?

Re: AXA or BXA

James Rice

#102190

Eccentric Engineering's total price for a set of two 9.5mm holders and the grinding jig including shipping is $180.00USD.? Village Press is charging $240 for the same set plus shipping.? If I ordered the 20mm set for my 16" lathe shipping would go up to $115 total.??

James

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On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 4:18 PM Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Two Diamond holders (Left and Right) and a grinding jig for the bit run $129 plus shipping from Australia. I am going to guess it will cost between 20 and 50 bucks for shipping, depending on how fast you want it delivered (20 by sea and 50 by air, maybe?). For our US members the shipping follow the old addage: "one if by land and two if by sea" ?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 4:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

Thank you for all the info James.
I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?

Thanks again,

Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

James Rice

#102189

I bought the 9.5mm version back when it was called a A9.5.? It was listed for lathes of 9" to 12" swing.? I didn't have the South Bend 9A back then but I felt the next size they carried was a B16 was going to be too large for the Atlas Craftsman 12x36.? As it turned out the 9.5 size has been perfect for both lathes.? What I wish I had purchased at the time was a T6 or 6mm version that takes a 1/8" bit. It was for a 3" to 6" swing lathe which would have been perfect for my 6x18 Atlas-Craftsman lathe. I later bought a set of the new style 9.5mm holders which have a different angle on the tool holder compared to the older version but use the same bit geometry.? I think I'm about to order a 20mm set for my South Bend 16" but I'm going to continue my project to make several of my own type of holder just to see how they turn out.??

I haven't been spending much time in the shop for the past couple of years.? I spent the last 4 years at the local community college taking 4 semesters of welding and 3 semesters of auto body classes.? I have this spring semester to go and I'll be finished with the auto body courses and will receive associated degrees number 3 and 4 in May as well as the 3 AWS welding certifications I've already earned. So I've been thinking about new shop projects to tackle and old ones to finish.? To forward those intentions, I recently purchased 20 bars of 1-3/8"x72" 41L40 steel as well as 5-600# of 416SS and 41L40 cutoffs the same diameter and in assorted lengths of 3" to 12" from a gun receiver maker who advertised them on Craigslist for $5 a bar.? He sold me the lot of cutoffs for $20 dollars more.? Since the going rate for a 1-3/8"x72" bar of 41L40 is $185 and the rate for 416SS bar is $6.25 an inch at the metal suppliers, I jumped on it. The guy originally had almost 100 bars to sell but some other hobby machinists got there first so I took what he had left.? It was close to half a ton of oil hardening and free machining tool and stainless steel for a bargain price. So as my lovely wife puts it, "I have some more innocent pieces of metal to torture".?

James?

Re: Carriage Stop and Indicator

#102188

Jody:

Agree.? I think you are right on point.? No need for an indicator if you have DRO.? But the stop comes in handy at times if you're in a hurry or are just lazy, like me.??

Adding XY DRO's (dumb, but effective and cheap I-Gaging DRO's) to the Atlas was one of the best upgrades I made, second only to the QCTP.

Bill

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 11:50:35 AM PST, Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

Guenther,
You make a good point about the swarf.? I was using mine on a mighty mag and had it setup up behind the carriage.? It worked ok, with exception of the magnet part of it.? I'm thinking of doing something that can hold the indicator and have a stop between the indicator and the ways.? Doing this I can take my measurements with the dial and then set my stop and then take the dial out of the holder to keep it away from the swarf.
Thanks for mentioning that, I didn't think about that aspect of it yet.?
Maybe I just go all DRO and forget this...Haha!

Thanks for the input, swarf is now going to be taken into account.
-Jody

Re: Atlas metal lathe manual

#102187

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???,

?

Your lathe is a Babbit bearing Series 10F.? It was made around September of 1942.

?

You can unload a parts manual for the 10F from the Group Files section.?

?

The Owner’s or Operator’s manual will be the correct version of the Atlas Manual of Lathe Operation (or MOLO for short).? Because the final edition is still available from Clausing (so it is still in print), we have elected to play it safe and not upload earlier versions of the MOLO to Files.? Originals show up regularly on eBay.? Average price is around $25 to $35.? Most sellers have no idea that there were 10 (at least) different versions and 33 Editions printed between 1937 and 1988.? If you download the MOLO History documents (two) from Files, they will tell you what version you need and how to identify it.? The choice is made more complicated because Atlas did not begin putting the print year and Edition number on the Copyright page until the 16^th edition in 1953.? Those (one for Atlas and one for Craftsman) have no information on the Babbit spindle bearings.? So the one you want will first off only say Copyright 1937 on the Copyright page.? Then on the change gear chart it should say in part “10F Series”, instead of Craftsman or 6”.? Beyond that, read the History and the Selection chart.? If you have any remaining questions after that, ask them.

?

PS:? Please sign your posts.

?

Robert Downs

WA5CAB

?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of blw6772 via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 15:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Atlas metal lathe manual

?

Hey , l have purchased a V48 Atlas metal lathe Serial # 039466 . Anyone know any way l can get a parts manual / owners manual ? Any reprints or Vintage press company’s out there ? I have been searching high and low ?. Any help will
be really appreciated !

Re: Atlas metal lathe manual

#102186

Hi,
Go here>

Scroll down to Atlas Press Company or any other company that tickles your fancy. :)
Lots & lots of info.?
I have a V54 Serial #48700 so we're pretty darn close.?
Enjoy!
shadetreedad?

Atlas metal lathe manual

[email protected]

#102185

Hey , l have purchased a V48 Atlas metal lathe Serial # 039466 . Anyone know any way l can get a parts manual / owners manual ? Any reprints or Vintage press company’s out there ? I have been searching high and low ?. Any help will
be really appreciated !

Re: AXA or BXA

#102184

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Thanks for checking that James.

Guess i'll need some 3/16 HSS if I buy one.

-Jody

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-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 4:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I just checked online and according to the pdf use manual they have linked, they still use 3/16" square blanks.

James

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

Thank you for all the info James.
I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?
Thanks again,
Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

#102183

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Thanks Andrei.

That's pretty steep. Sure the grinding jig makes things nice but $200 is a chunk.

-Jody

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-------- Original message --------
From: Andrei <calciu1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 4:18 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

Two Diamond holders (Left and Right) and a grinding jig for the bit run $129 plus shipping from Australia. I am going to guess it will cost between 20 and 50 bucks for shipping, depending on how fast you want it delivered (20 by sea and 50 by air, maybe?). For our US members the shipping follow the old addage: "one if by land and two if by sea" ?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 4:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

Thank you for all the info James.

I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?

Thanks again,

Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

#102182

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Two Diamond holders (Left and Right) and a grinding jig for the bit run $129 plus shipping from Australia. I am going to guess it will cost between 20 and 50 bucks for shipping, depending on how fast you want it delivered (20 by sea and 50 by air, maybe?). For our US members the shipping follow the old addage: "one if by land and two if by sea" ?

Show quoted text

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 4:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

Thank you for all the info James.

I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?

Thanks again,

Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

James Rice

#102181

I just checked online and according to the pdf use manual they have linked, they still use 3/16" square blanks.

James

Show quoted text

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

Thank you for all the info James.
I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?
Thanks again,
Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

James Rice

#102180

The Wimberley toolholders I have take 3/16" square bits. They may have changed as these are 5-6 years old.

James

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On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

Thank you for all the info James.
I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?
Thanks again,
Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

#102179

开云体育

Thank you for all the info James.

I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?

Thanks again,

Jody

Show quoted text

-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

James Rice

#102178

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

Show quoted text

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.