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Re: BlackFriday Hobby mags sale

 

Yeah, and those guys push small machines to the outer limited, too! I've got electronic copies of a bunch of the early ME. But I'm not a model train guy. Dad fixed that for me when I was young. Model Engineers Workshop still has some stuff on model trains, but it's also lot more general. Got electronic copies of the first 80 MEW, too. Want all the rest, as well. What's that about beer budget and champagne taste? Yup!

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 07:06:20 PM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


I bought both those mags from the same publisher for a while & out of the 35-40 I have in a stack I never found anything that even remotely interested me . I subscribe to Model Engineer's Workshop , I get teh digital copy . I just renewed my script last again nite? . The English mag got to me cause there seems to be a lot more machining articles & not things like how to build a yard cart cause their out of things to write about .? There's a lot more good articles in the 2-3 years that I've subscribed then all the years I bought the other 2 mags . The English blokes? seem to take the hobby machining hobby pretty serious . They have their own? forum with probably at least a couple thousand hours of experience between members . I just looked at the October issue & it has I believe 11or 12 articles & that's without the regular columns . The Barns & Noble in Reno carries it so I imagine the the other Barns would too . I've been real happy with my $$ spent on this mag .

YMMV

animal

On 11/25/24 2:50 PM, David Matthews via groups.io wrote:
I tried Home Shop Machinist again last year and am letting it drop.? Not a lot in it and what is there often isn't well written.? I used to subscribe and it was pretty good back then.? I see Model Engineer's Workshop in this list.? Anyone have any experience with it?? Looking for something with small lathe/mill projects.

Dave

On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 5:27?PM mike allen via <animal=[email protected]> wrote:

I got this mail today & heres a list of their hobby mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya may be interested


Re: BlackFriday Hobby mags sale

 

Looking for general techniques and projects.? Mostly to use as starting points for my own designs.? I decided that learning by YouTube wasn't the best way to go so I took a couple manual machining courses at a community college.? It is free to audit public college courses in NY if you are over 60.? It was taught by two retired machinists and I learned a ton.? I also ended up with a bunch of tooling and fixtures that I made in class.

Dave

On Mon, Nov 25, 2024, 19:10 Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers=[email protected]> wrote:
If you're looking for a specific project, or type of project, none of the magazines are really that good unless you just uck out. If you want to learn about new or different techniques, any of them are good. For newbies, anyway.?

If you've been a tool and die maker for 50 years they may not have anything for you. I haven't renewed my subscriptions this year because I'm currently too broke. When I get that taken care of, I will be renewing both HSM & MW. When I can find them, I buy the English publications, too.

Model Engineer & Model Engineers Workshop are different. ME is mostly specifically about model trains. MEW is? closer to MW in that it's more general machining. Still slanted to model trains, but a goodly bunch of techniques that can also be used elsewhere, and machines to help you do all the machining you want.?

I had formal training as a machinist, but have not worked in the field. Did because I wanted to be able to make anything that I want. Still have a great deal to learn. YMMV!

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 04:50:53 PM CST, David Matthews via <n36078=[email protected]> wrote:


I tried Home Shop Machinist again last year and am letting it drop.? Not a lot in it and what is there often isn't well written.? I used to subscribe and it was pretty good back then.? I see Model Engineer's Workshop in this list.? Anyone have any experience with it?? Looking for something with small lathe/mill projects.

Dave

On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 5:27?PM mike allen via <animal=[email protected]> wrote:
I got this mail today & heres a list of their hobby mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya may be interested


Re: BlackFriday Hobby mags sale

 

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I bought both those mags from the same publisher for a while & out of the 35-40 I have in a stack I never found anything that even remotely interested me . I subscribe to Model Engineer's Workshop , I get teh digital copy . I just renewed my script last again nite? . The English mag got to me cause there seems to be a lot more machining articles & not things like how to build a yard cart cause their out of things to write about .? There's a lot more good articles in the 2-3 years that I've subscribed then all the years I bought the other 2 mags . The English blokes? seem to take the hobby machining hobby pretty serious . They have their own? forum with probably at least a couple thousand hours of experience between members . I just looked at the October issue & it has I believe 11or 12 articles & that's without the regular columns . The Barns & Noble in Reno carries it so I imagine the the other Barns would too . I've been real happy with my $$ spent on this mag .

YMMV

animal

On 11/25/24 2:50 PM, David Matthews via groups.io wrote:

I tried Home Shop Machinist again last year and am letting it drop.? Not a lot in it and what is there often isn't well written.? I used to subscribe and it was pretty good back then.? I see Model Engineer's Workshop in this list.? Anyone have any experience with it?? Looking for something with small lathe/mill projects.

Dave

On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 5:27?PM mike allen via <animal=[email protected]> wrote:
I got this mail today & heres a list of their hobby mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya may be interested


Re: BlackFriday Hobby mags sale

 

Thanks, Mike! I needed to see that right now!?

One more thing. Maybe I need to buy a lottery ticke after all...

:)

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 04:27:02 PM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


I got this mail today & heres a list of their hobby mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya may be interested


Re: BlackFriday Hobby mags sale

 

If you're looking for a specific project, or type of project, none of the magazines are really that good unless you just uck out. If you want to learn about new or different techniques, any of them are good. For newbies, anyway.?

If you've been a tool and die maker for 50 years they may not have anything for you. I haven't renewed my subscriptions this year because I'm currently too broke. When I get that taken care of, I will be renewing both HSM & MW. When I can find them, I buy the English publications, too.

Model Engineer & Model Engineers Workshop are different. ME is mostly specifically about model trains. MEW is? closer to MW in that it's more general machining. Still slanted to model trains, but a goodly bunch of techniques that can also be used elsewhere, and machines to help you do all the machining you want.?

I had formal training as a machinist, but have not worked in the field. Did because I wanted to be able to make anything that I want. Still have a great deal to learn. YMMV!

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 04:50:53 PM CST, David Matthews via groups.io <n36078@...> wrote:


I tried Home Shop Machinist again last year and am letting it drop.? Not a lot in it and what is there often isn't well written.? I used to subscribe and it was pretty good back then.? I see Model Engineer's Workshop in this list.? Anyone have any experience with it?? Looking for something with small lathe/mill projects.

Dave


On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 5:27?PM mike allen via <animal=[email protected]> wrote:
I got this mail today & heres a list of their hobby mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya may be interested


Re: BlackFriday Hobby mags sale

 

I tried Home Shop Machinist again last year and am letting it drop.? Not a lot in it and what is there often isn't well written.? I used to subscribe and it was pretty good back then.? I see Model Engineer's Workshop in this list.? Anyone have any experience with it?? Looking for something with small lathe/mill projects.

Dave


On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 5:27?PM mike allen via <animal=[email protected]> wrote:
I got this mail today & heres a list of their hobby mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya may be interested


BlackFriday Hobby mags sale

 

I got this mail today & heres a list of their hobby mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya may be interested


Re: history of my lathe

 

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There's a bunch of South Bends over in England & I know of at least one company that was licensed to build South Bends in Australia . I'm sure there's more .

On 11/22/24 7:40 AM, Steve Bergeron via groups.io wrote:

The Myford M7-7 was not introduced until 1947 so England.?

I think that is an interesting data point in this discussion

Steve



On Nov 22, 2024, at 7:25?AM, Mike Poore via groups.io <mpoore10@...> wrote:

? I recall lend/lease was already well underway by spring of 1941. We entered the war by the end of 1941. Lend/lease began, I think, in the late 30's when the UK entered the war. By 1942, we were sending massive amounts of equipment and soldiers to the UK to stage for invasion. A lathe made in spring of 1941, would have taken several months to find its way to the UK by ship. Assuming the bearing date is meaningful, I think it is equally possible that the lathe was part of lend/lease or part of the US Army supply chain. We are known to leave a lot of equipment behind after a war so that our military contractors can make more profit resupplying us.

Bearing dates during that period are probably not as certain of an indicator as one might think. It was obviously? a little chaotic. Those bearings may not have been immediately used. They could be replacement bearings too. Atlas would not have been directly involved in lend/lease, but they were certainly a supplier. The US government would buy products from manufacturers and lend/lease it to the UK. You will often find a tag on machine tools made for the War Dept with some language indicating such. I do not know if that was required or done because the machinery was not always made to the same standards as commercial products. I doubt too many people were actually making parts at home for the war. However, nearly everything was rationed due to shortages. Having a lathe at home to make or repair parts not available would make sense.

On 11/21/2024 2:41 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:
It would be interesting to try and find out the history of my lathe and how it came to be in the uk.? It appears that it was made end of april /beginning of may 1941 (going by the dates on the headstock bearings) so right when America was ramping up the lease lend program during ww2.
?
Was atlas involved in the lease lend?? where lathes sent to the uk?
?
of course the slightly less historical important theory is that an american solder bought it before the americans went to war and then relocated over here after the war sometime
?
many thanks
Coop


Re: history of my lathe

 

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That is interesting. I was thinking about people making parts at home in the U.S. It would make more sense for that to happen in the UK where a large factory is going to be a target for the Germans. It must have been tough to keep those machines running with constant blackouts. They used to cut the lights to avoid aiding attacking aircraft.

On 11/22/2024 1:44 PM, I_am Wally via groups.io wrote:

Well, there is this account...
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-Wally
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FYI, $300 in Cresson, TX
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Re: history of my lathe

 

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At least 30,000 Harleys were sent over & I believe the bulk of those ended up in Russia . There's a company in the Netherlands? ( I think that's where it is? ) that is still selling OEM HArley parts . Here's the whole story from Wikipedia's eyes , interestin read .

On 11/22/24 7:25 AM, Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:

I recall lend/lease was already well underway by spring of 1941. We entered the war by the end of 1941. Lend/lease began, I think, in the late 30's when the UK entered the war. By 1942, we were sending massive amounts of equipment and soldiers to the UK to stage for invasion. A lathe made in spring of 1941, would have taken several months to find its way to the UK by ship. Assuming the bearing date is meaningful, I think it is equally possible that the lathe was part of lend/lease or part of the US Army supply chain. We are known to leave a lot of equipment behind after a war so that our military contractors can make more profit resupplying us.

Bearing dates during that period are probably not as certain of an indicator as one might think. It was obviously? a little chaotic. Those bearings may not have been immediately used. They could be replacement bearings too. Atlas would not have been directly involved in lend/lease, but they were certainly a supplier. The US government would buy products from manufacturers and lend/lease it to the UK. You will often find a tag on machine tools made for the War Dept with some language indicating such. I do not know if that was required or done because the machinery was not always made to the same standards as commercial products. I doubt too many people were actually making parts at home for the war. However, nearly everything was rationed due to shortages. Having a lathe at home to make or repair parts not available would make sense.

On 11/21/2024 2:41 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:
It would be interesting to try and find out the history of my lathe and how it came to be in the uk.? It appears that it was made end of april /beginning of may 1941 (going by the dates on the headstock bearings) so right when America was ramping up the lease lend program during ww2.
?
Was atlas involved in the lease lend?? where lathes sent to the uk?
?
of course the slightly less historical important theory is that an american solder bought it before the americans went to war and then relocated over here after the war sometime
?
many thanks
Coop


Re: history of my lathe

 

Well, there is this account...
?
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-Wally
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Re: history of my lathe

 

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The Myford M7-7 was not introduced until 1947 so England.?

I think that is an interesting data point in this discussion

Steve



On Nov 22, 2024, at 7:25?AM, Mike Poore via groups.io <mpoore10@...> wrote:

? I recall lend/lease was already well underway by spring of 1941. We entered the war by the end of 1941. Lend/lease began, I think, in the late 30's when the UK entered the war. By 1942, we were sending massive amounts of equipment and soldiers to the UK to stage for invasion. A lathe made in spring of 1941, would have taken several months to find its way to the UK by ship. Assuming the bearing date is meaningful, I think it is equally possible that the lathe was part of lend/lease or part of the US Army supply chain. We are known to leave a lot of equipment behind after a war so that our military contractors can make more profit resupplying us.

Bearing dates during that period are probably not as certain of an indicator as one might think. It was obviously? a little chaotic. Those bearings may not have been immediately used. They could be replacement bearings too. Atlas would not have been directly involved in lend/lease, but they were certainly a supplier. The US government would buy products from manufacturers and lend/lease it to the UK. You will often find a tag on machine tools made for the War Dept with some language indicating such. I do not know if that was required or done because the machinery was not always made to the same standards as commercial products. I doubt too many people were actually making parts at home for the war. However, nearly everything was rationed due to shortages. Having a lathe at home to make or repair parts not available would make sense.

On 11/21/2024 2:41 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:
It would be interesting to try and find out the history of my lathe and how it came to be in the uk.? It appears that it was made end of april /beginning of may 1941 (going by the dates on the headstock bearings) so right when America was ramping up the lease lend program during ww2.
?
Was atlas involved in the lease lend?? where lathes sent to the uk?
?
of course the slightly less historical important theory is that an american solder bought it before the americans went to war and then relocated over here after the war sometime
?
many thanks
Coop


Re: history of my lathe

 

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I recall lend/lease was already well underway by spring of 1941. We entered the war by the end of 1941. Lend/lease began, I think, in the late 30's when the UK entered the war. By 1942, we were sending massive amounts of equipment and soldiers to the UK to stage for invasion. A lathe made in spring of 1941, would have taken several months to find its way to the UK by ship. Assuming the bearing date is meaningful, I think it is equally possible that the lathe was part of lend/lease or part of the US Army supply chain. We are known to leave a lot of equipment behind after a war so that our military contractors can make more profit resupplying us.

Bearing dates during that period are probably not as certain of an indicator as one might think. It was obviously? a little chaotic. Those bearings may not have been immediately used. They could be replacement bearings too. Atlas would not have been directly involved in lend/lease, but they were certainly a supplier. The US government would buy products from manufacturers and lend/lease it to the UK. You will often find a tag on machine tools made for the War Dept with some language indicating such. I do not know if that was required or done because the machinery was not always made to the same standards as commercial products. I doubt too many people were actually making parts at home for the war. However, nearly everything was rationed due to shortages. Having a lathe at home to make or repair parts not available would make sense.

On 11/21/2024 2:41 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:

It would be interesting to try and find out the history of my lathe and how it came to be in the uk.? It appears that it was made end of april /beginning of may 1941 (going by the dates on the headstock bearings) so right when America was ramping up the lease lend program during ww2.
?
Was atlas involved in the lease lend?? where lathes sent to the uk?
?
of course the slightly less historical important theory is that an american solder bought it before the americans went to war and then relocated over here after the war sometime
?
many thanks
Coop


Re: todays silly question.

 

The knob is pinned to the shaftand will freewheel when not engaged.
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I Love Anything That Turns Money Into Noise


todays silly question.

 

im trying to line up the gear on the cross feed screw with the power feed mechanism in the apron. ? The knob you pull out to engage power feed for the cross feed should the knob turn regardless of its position (engaged/disengaged)


Re: history of my lathe

 

Here's a link to an interest ca. 1942 article about innovative uses of small machine tools in the war effort in the United States. I suspect the same motivations were in play in the U.K.??
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Larry F.
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Re: history of my lathe

 

Atlas lathes (and their other machine tools) were promoted during WW-II for defense production. ?Simple parts, in a home workshop, let folks contribute to the War Effort and make some money too. ?In some of their period literature they mention exactly these uses. ?And given that the needs for EVERYTHING were so great, the fact that Atlas continued producing much of their product line throughout the war indicates that the government believed that the Atlas machines added value.
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"In January 1942, the newly created War Production Board assumed responsibility for directing war procurement and production and establishing priorities for military and civilian use of materials and supplies." from
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As to the specifics of how YOUR lathe came to the UK? ?It is all conjecture, but we know from Tony's site that Atlas machinery did make it to the UK.
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Charlie


Re: history of my lathe

 

The best historical resource I know of is ?
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Raymond
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history of my lathe

 

It would be interesting to try and find out the history of my lathe and how it came to be in the uk.? It appears that it was made end of april /beginning of may 1941 (going by the dates on the headstock bearings) so right when America was ramping up the lease lend program during ww2.
?
Was atlas involved in the lease lend?? where lathes sent to the uk?
?
of course the slightly less historical important theory is that an american solder bought it before the americans went to war and then relocated over here after the war sometime
?
many thanks
Coop