Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
Ah, I had never heard of?Van Norman style QCTP so I chekt it out online.? Yes, definitely would be easier to make than an Aloris style QCTP--however,? the ability to change quickly tools, is hindered by that tightening bolt.? Also, the tool holder itself (many of them) would eat up a lot of metal and a lot of time.? In making an Aloris style tool holder (not the post), you can make several in one go then cut them up .? There is more initial work on an Aloris style but the benefits IMNSHO (in my not so humble opinion) FAR outweigh that extra work.? Besides, most of the work is simple drilling and tapping.? Cutting the bevels is the part that is hardest because of the precision needed and the possibility of breaking a couple bevel cutters.
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Re: Unbranded 10in. Steady rest
It also appears curious that the 1941 catalog photo shows a steady rest with no cast in casting numbers??? ?Perhaps the early versions did not have the casting numbers ?
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On Oct 22, 2024, at 5:19?AM, mondosmetals <jwrey@...> wrote:
? It certainly is curious that there are no casting numbers, but that is an exact copy of the Atlas 10" lathe steady rest # 10-325A Illustration from 1941 Atlas catalog: <inline.0.part>
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Re: Unbranded 10in. Steady rest
For what it’s worth, my Atlas 10” steady rest has part numbers 10-326B cast in the bottom and 10-326T cast in the top. Also shown is the 1” high riser block I made to use this steady on my Atlas 12” Commercial lathe.
Steve Haskell
Troy, MI
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Re: 12 commercial quick change gear box
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On Oct 22, 2024, at 5:09?AM, Sherling979 via groups.io <Sherling979@...> wrote:
? Will a 12 inch commercial quick change gear box? fit a non commercial 12 craftsman lathe.? I think the commercial ways are 1/8 inch thicker than my regular lathe ways. My did not come with any change gears and I am thinking of a quick change? for the convenience factor.
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
How about making a milling attachment for your own lathe? Or making/buying a milling machine...
OK. Yes, my addiction is showing!
Hi! My name is Bill, and I'm a toolohaulic!
Bill in OKC?
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On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 12:14:37 PM CDT, Larry Hoelscher <lgh1330@...> wrote:
How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO.
I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work.
When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.??
Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times.
I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
True that, but you can make one of them, yourself, too. Probably easier to make a Van Norman style QCTP. Check out one (or all) of the Mini-lathe groups. The QTCPs for the 7x?? Mini-lathes are a bit small for the Atlas 10" lathes, but can be scaled up fairly easily. Or just blocked up to center height.?
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 10:16:47 AM CDT, hedgesben@... <hedgesben@...> wrote:
thanks for the replies
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@ Bill unfortunately the original lantern style post got lost years ago i assume and being in the uk trying to source one on ebay etc is expensive by the time postage is factored in.
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@ Ion thanks i will see if i can source one of those over here
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Re: Unbranded 10in. Steady rest
It certainly is curious that there are no casting numbers, but that is an exact copy of the Atlas 10" lathe steady rest # 10-325A
Illustration from 1941 Atlas catalog:
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12 commercial quick change gear box
Will a 12 inch commercial quick change gear box? fit a non commercial 12 craftsman lathe.? I think the commercial ways are 1/8 inch thicker than my regular lathe ways. My did not come with any change gears and I am thinking of a quick change? for the convenience factor.
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Unbranded 10in. Steady rest
Anybody seen one like this? No part numbers
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
Even so, it's still very fun to make the parts.? Also, you don't REALLY need the best steel for this project.
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Of course. We all scrounge for parts for these old lathes. Nobody minds getting an early crack at an item, before ebay. As long as you don't spam the list, you're good.
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Just checking, i have accessories left over from selling my lathe. My question is can i list them here for sale instead of Ebay? I saw the for sale forum and the last thing listed was in 2018. I just don’t want to ?cause problems.?
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Just checking, i have accessories left over from selling my lathe. My question is can i list them here for sale instead of Ebay? I saw the for sale forum and the last thing listed was in 2018. I just don’t want to ?cause problems.?
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Non factory 10in. Steady rest
I have a 10in. Steady that i have had for 30years and when i decided to sell it i discovered it didn’t have casting numbers on it. Has anyone seen these before. The casting is clean and looks factory and nothing like a chinese casting and fits the bed like a glove. Anybody else have info on this steady?
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
??? All of the 4 ways like in yer pic? that I have seen &
used have? ball detentes in the bottom so the tool post moves in
increments & is it's square on one side if ya use the
detentes?? , ya may flip yers over & see if it's missing the
ball & spring or if it even had one . It should be square for
the other 3 sides . If ya have a 123 block , squaring up the tool
post is a breeze . I just put it between the tool post & chuck
& run the carriage up with the tool pose slightly loose , it
will square itself & then ya tighten the tool post . My QCTP
is a wedge type & I got it at either CDCO tools or CME tools ,
good quality & the price was good . With ya being over the
pond I'm guessing that freight will be a matter . I have bought
from Chronos in the past , I know they have them .
animal
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here are
some pics of the home made tool post as requested
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
A machinist would not be able to buy the steel for the AXA tool holders, for the price of buying them ready made. You would also need to buy the set screws, the long screw, and the two height stop knobs. And the commercial ones are also heat treated (well,
some of them, anyway).?
Go to eBay and buy your tool bit holders for 10-12 bucks a pop and rejoyce.?
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How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO.
I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and
shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work.
When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.??
Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a
cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times.
I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
I think the Myford style post would work well the 10" Atlas.
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On Oct 21, 2024, at 8:16?AM, hedgesben via groups.io <hedgesben@...> wrote:
? thanks for the replies
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@ Bill unfortunately the original lantern style post got lost years ago i assume and being in the uk trying to source one on ebay etc is expensive by the time postage is factored in.
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@ Ion thanks i will see if i can source one of those over here
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO.
I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work.
When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.??
Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times.
I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
thanks for the replies
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@ Bill unfortunately the original lantern style post got lost years ago i assume and being in the uk trying to source one on ebay etc is expensive by the time postage is factored in.
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@ Ion thanks i will see if i can source one of those over here
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work.
When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.??
Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times.
I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
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Jim F
Bill in OKC too