Re: My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910...
On 8/22/24 13:39, mike allen wrote:
??? Cool , Now I'm a bit more excited about trying to do
the swap . He said he has a motor , it's 3 phase so i need
to findout if it will mess with my inverter seeing as how
I live off grid .
I have single-phase 240 V, and ran a 1J head with a VFD.? Worked great!? I now have a 2J on an R2E3 (BOSS 8) mill, and run that on a larger VFD.? If you have 240 VAC from your inverter, then it should work.? Trying to run a large spindle motor directly off your inverter with a starting capacitor bank or "phase converter" will likely not work well due to the starting surge.? The VFD can be programmed to do a gentle start that draws less power. Jon
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Ralph, These holes on the headstock body are a mystery to everyone.? There are no attachments that go in them and perhaps they are from manufacturing for indexing purposes.
On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 2:48?PM Ralph Hulslander via <rhulslander= [email protected]> wrote: The?work of a previous owner!
On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 4:52?PM Busted Knuckle via <arzander55= [email protected]> wrote:
Thanks ever so much.
Any clue as to the purpose of the two unthreaded holes in the headstock casting, just below the gear train cover (see image). They appear to be in line with the gears on the spindle.
Those are not factory made.?
Perhaps someone had some form of a collet adapter.?
If you don¡¯t want them visible, screw allen set screws in them and add a drop of Loctite.?
On Aug 22, 2024, at 9:06?AM, Busted Knuckle via <arzander55=[email protected]> wrote:
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I own one of the subject lathes, made about 1948. In my efforts to get it back to working condition I notice two 5/16-18 threaded holes in the headstock casting, below the spindle (see attached image). Can anyone help me understand what these threaded
holes were for?
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The?work of a previous owner!
On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 4:52?PM Busted Knuckle via <arzander55= [email protected]> wrote:
Thanks ever so much.
Any clue as to the purpose of the two unthreaded holes in the headstock casting, just below the gear train cover (see image). They appear to be in line with the gears on the spindle.
Those are not factory made.?
Perhaps someone had some form of a collet adapter.?
If you don¡¯t want them visible, screw allen set screws in them and add a drop of Loctite.?
On Aug 22, 2024, at 9:06?AM, Busted Knuckle via <arzander55=[email protected]> wrote:
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I own one of the subject lathes, made about 1948. In my efforts to get it back to working condition I notice two 5/16-18 threaded holes in the headstock casting, below the spindle (see attached image). Can anyone help me understand what these threaded
holes were for?
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Thanks ever so much.
Any clue as to the purpose of the two unthreaded holes in the headstock casting, just below the gear train cover (see image). They appear to be in line with the gears on the spindle.
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Those are not factory made.?
Perhaps someone had some form of a collet adapter.?
If you don¡¯t want them visible, screw allen set screws in them and add a drop of Loctite.?
On Aug 22, 2024, at 9:06?AM, Busted Knuckle via groups.io <arzander55@...> wrote:
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I own one of the subject lathes, made about 1948. In my efforts to get it back to working condition I notice two 5/16-18 threaded holes in the headstock casting, below the spindle (see attached image). Can anyone help me understand what these threaded
holes were for?
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Those are not factory made.? Perhaps someone had some form of a collet adapter.? If you don¡¯t want them visible, screw allen set screws in them and add a drop of Loctite.?
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On Aug 22, 2024, at 9:06?AM, Busted Knuckle via groups.io <arzander55@...> wrote:
? I own one of the subject lathes, made about 1948. In my efforts to get it back to working condition I notice two 5/16-18 threaded holes in the headstock casting, below the spindle (see attached image). Can anyone help me understand what these threaded holes were for?
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Re: My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910...
??? Cool , Now I'm a bit more excited about trying to do the swap
. He said he has a motor , it's 3 phase so i need to findout if it
will mess with my inverter seeing as how I live off grid .
thanks
animal
On 8/22/24 7:24 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
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On 8/21/24 23:07, mike allen wrote:
??? I have? good bud that owns a machine shop . He
replaced the heads on his Bridgeports with Acer heads & he
offered me the Bridgeport head that he kept . We still
need to get him over to my place so we can start
brainstorming on if & how it can be done . I asked him
today when I was over there & the head that he offered me
has the variable sheave's for speed control , he didn't
remember which head it was . It has a R8 spindle of which
I have a bunch of R8 tooling .
Almost certainly, if it has a vari-speed drive and R8 taper,
then it is a 2J head.? That generally has a 2HP motor.
The 1J head has a 4-step pulley and a 1 HP motor.
Jon
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You might enjoy seeing this¡.Battleship New Jersey Machine Shop
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I would imagine that the machine shop for a battleship or a carrier would have been impressive.? Following a battle there would likely be need for parts that could only be supplied via an on board machine shop.? By any chance does anyone have pictures???? I doubt machinists were given the honor they were due.?
On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 09:38:32 AM PDT, William Warne < williamwarne@...> wrote:
My uncle had a lathe / mill combo salvaged from a German U-boat.? It was a nice machine.
On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 09:33:46 AM PDT, Richard Hughson < richughson@...> wrote:
With 4-wheel drive, low range, and back gears - line-up might be tricky,?but he could rebore a tank engine. On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 11:47?AM Steve Bergeron via <steve.m.bergeron= [email protected]> wrote: Plus he has 4-wheel drive on top of the back gears for serious hogging.
On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:37?AM, Richard Hughson via <richughson=[email protected]> wrote:
? I came across that picture of a lathe mounted to the back of a jeep and thought, "This'll be a good joke." But only one guy mentioned tire pressure. All the rest have been as serious as 'what oil should I use'. So, a tip of the hat to the guy who mentioned tire pressure, thank you.
Rick H Oh yes, there is always someone to raise the "but what about this situation."
For mobile units and on board ships level may not be possible. Other methods are employed to assure the bed ways are straight. So technically one could install a lathe on the inside wall of a yurt if a method to assure the ways were flat without any twist was employed.
For stationary installations such as a garage or basement workshop or factory floor using a level is by far and above the easiest method of assuring the bed ways are flat without any twist.
?
Raymond
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10F 51-52 Countershaft Rocker Handle
Does anyone have a CAD-esque drawing for this part? Or the relevant specs handy?? I caught my finger (again) today and figure I should finally go ahead and make one.? Thanks in advance!?
Bryan
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I own one of the subject lathes, made about 1948. In my efforts to get it back to working condition I notice two 5/16-18 threaded holes in the headstock casting, below the spindle (see attached image). Can anyone help me understand what these threaded holes were for?
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Re: My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910...
On 8/21/24 23:07, mike allen wrote:
??? I have? good bud that owns a machine shop . He
replaced the heads on his Bridgeports with Acer heads & he
offered me the Bridgeport head that he kept . We still
need to get him over to my place so we can start
brainstorming on if & how it can be done . I asked him
today when I was over there & the head that he offered me
has the variable sheave's for speed control , he didn't
remember which head it was . It has a R8 spindle of which
I have a bunch of R8 tooling .
Almost certainly, if it has a vari-speed drive and R8 taper, then it is a 2J head.? That generally has a 2HP motor. The 1J head has a 4-step pulley and a 1 HP motor. Jon
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Re: My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910...
??? I have? good bud that owns a machine shop . He replaced the
heads on his Bridgeports with Acer heads & he offered me the
Bridgeport head that he kept . We still need to get him over to my
place so we can start brainstorming on if & how it can be done
. I asked him today when I was over there & the head that he
offered me has the variable sheave's for speed control , he didn't
remember which head it was . It has a R8 spindle of which I have a
bunch of R8 tooling .
??? thanks
??? animal
On 8/21/24 2:34 PM, Andrei wrote:
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That is the j head
??? Is the M head variable speed or is that the J head ?
??? thanks
??? animal
On 8/21/24 1:11 PM, Andrei wrote:
Well, I have a
Bridgeport M head that I could sell.?
I bought it to restore
the horizontal milling machine and to add vertical milling
capability, but it has been sitting for 2 years now.?I have
to admit to myself that I probably won't get to it
anytime?soon and it will probably serve someone else better
than it does me.
Be aware that it is
very heavy, probably 100 pounds or more and would have to go
freight, boxed, and strapped on a pallet. I am located in
Virginia, for reference.?
He can make me a
reasonable offer.?
A friend?in Austin Texas has a Millright?mill
that needs either a spindle rebuild or a new head. If
interested let me know and I will pass the word along.?
?Bill
It is a capable little milling machine.?
The vertical head will probably fit on a lot of
horizontal mills. Alternatively, an "inexpensive"
Bridgeport Model M head would probably serve
better on a bigger horizontal mill conversion.?
I think your model 850 has about 3" more
elevation on column than my model 80 but all
other movements are the same. You might be able
to fit in boring bar or drill chuck in the 850.
--
Clayton Percy
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Re: My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910...
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??? Is the M head variable speed or is that the J head ?
??? thanks
??? animal
On 8/21/24 1:11 PM, Andrei wrote:
Well, I have a Bridgeport M head that I could sell.?
I bought it to restore the horizontal milling machine and to add vertical milling capability, but it has been sitting for 2 years now.?I have to admit to myself that I probably won't get to it anytime?soon and it will
probably serve someone else better than it does me.
Be aware that it is very heavy, probably 100 pounds or more and would have to go freight, boxed, and strapped on a pallet. I am located in Virginia, for reference.?
He can make me a reasonable offer.?
A friend?in Austin Texas has a Millright?mill that needs either a spindle rebuild or a new head. If interested let me know and I will pass the word along.? ?Bill
It is a capable little milling machine.?
The vertical head will probably fit on a lot of horizontal mills. Alternatively, an "inexpensive" Bridgeport Model M head would probably serve better on a bigger horizontal mill conversion.?
I think your model 850 has about 3" more elevation on column than my model 80 but all other movements are the same. You might be able to fit in boring bar or drill chuck in the 850.
--
Clayton Percy
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Re: Lifting in the shop ( used to be Lathe in Jeep )
Amazing the degree that old veterans reach the same conclusion.? Guess that means that what we have learned has value.? So the lesson for those that are younger is the value of preparation.? Our gift to you.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 01:40:52 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? Having said for years to people , " Don 't have back surgery
" . I got forced into my 5th in June . SO far this one is working
. They pulled nerves out that were getting pinched between
vertebrates & replaced a disc . I was finally to the point
that it was all pain all the time . There was a added bonus to
this surgery , I had a heart attack that nite & after months
of telling my Dr's what was going on with me they finally said oh
yea , so there was something wrong .? Now we know whats been going
on with my heart so added bonus . I still can't walk more than
20-30 ' at a time so that's next to dissect .So a? bit of
preaching here if yer Doc don't listen get another . Stress test
don't tell or find everything . I had a heart attach a month after
my last heart attack . Be your own advocate !!!
??? now back to our previous channel . I'll have to look into the
specs for my concrete . The most I would be lifting with the HF
crane is a chuck for either lathe or my 10" rotary table , so I'm
a good hunk under 100 lbs . I've had a engine hoist for many years
& it's has been used more for other things more than lifting
engines . I like the fact that it will collapse , I also have one
of those HF hydraulic carts , best 100 bucks I ever spent ,
although it came into my life much later that it should have . It
goes high enough & then some that I can slide stuff from the
tailgate of the truck right onto the cart . Unfortunately It has
had my Enco /Rong FU mill sitting on it for the last 3 years . I
do have to say that if yer ever planing on buying one of these
carts the 1000 lb unit has much heavier casters than the 500 lb
one has,? as told to me by a guy that has the 500 lb cart . Looks
like their $ 120.00 difference between the two . I do not know if
the cart goes high enough to where I could slide a chuck on to the
bed of either lathe , I don't think it does . I know it would work
for the rotary table to the mill but then it's something on the
floor in my machine room & I really don't want that . I may
just end up making a track from Unistrut , but if I want to use
the electric hoist I won't be able to reach all 3 machines with it
. Decisions, decisions .
??? Another thing for a back saver is if ya have the room a
motorcycle lift , it can't be beat . I use mine for a portable
work bench , Generator repair , snow blower repair & anything
else that I can get onto the table . I still haven't had either
motorcycle on it but there's always something on it being worked
on . I have a pallet rack on one side of my shop & I can slide
the lift under the rack when not in use , though that hasn't
happened but once in 5 years . I tore apart a hospital bed up at
out local hospital & I think one of the shorter lift
assemblies may find it's way to the motorcycle lift . Anyone know
where I can get a small like 1 1/2 " load cell Cheap so I can
figure out the lifting force of the lift jack ? I'f I had paid
attention more in school I could probably figure it out but that
boat sailed a log time ago .
end of ramble
thanks
animal
On 8/21/24 12:30 PM, William Warne
wrote:
Back surgery is the worse
there is.? But sometimes the pain makes you do it.? Part of
life and getting old I guess, but OKC Bill is right.? Do your
best to protect what you have.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:24:31 PM PDT, Bill
in OKC too via groups.io
<wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
Let's just say there are reasons I now have a
bad back. One of them is that I didn't expect to
make it to age 30. There was no chance I was going
to leave a good-looking corpse, so I just didn't
worry about much of anything.?
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Re: My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910...
On 8/21/24 15:42, mike allen wrote:
??? Is the M head variable speed or is that the J head ?
The M head has a 1/2 Hp 3-phase motor and a 6-speed step pulley. It also has several spindle tapers available.? I think there is B&S # 7, Bridgeport B3 and Morse #2 tapers.? Some of these collets/ tool holders may be hard to obtain. Jon
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Re: My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910...
??? Is the M head variable speed or is that the J head ?
??? thanks
??? animal
On 8/21/24 1:11 PM, Andrei wrote:
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Well, I have a Bridgeport M head that I could sell.?
I bought it to restore the horizontal milling machine and to add
vertical milling capability, but it has been sitting for 2 years
now.?I have to admit to myself that I probably won't get to it
anytime?soon and it will probably serve someone else better than
it does me.
Be aware that it is very heavy, probably 100 pounds or more and
would have to go freight, boxed, and strapped on a pallet. I am
located in Virginia, for reference.?
He can make me a reasonable offer.?
A friend?in Austin Texas has a Millright?mill
that needs either a spindle rebuild or a new head. If
interested let me know and I will pass the word along.? ?Bill
It is a capable little milling machine.?
The vertical head will probably fit on a lot of
horizontal mills. Alternatively, an "inexpensive"
Bridgeport Model M head would probably serve better on
a bigger horizontal mill conversion.?
I think your model 850 has about 3" more
elevation on column than my model 80 but all other
movements are the same. You might be able to fit in
boring bar or drill chuck in the 850.
--
Clayton Percy
|
Re: Lifting in the shop ( used to be Lathe in Jeep )
??? Having said for years to people , " Don 't have back surgery
" . I got forced into my 5th in June . SO far this one is working
. They pulled nerves out that were getting pinched between
vertebrates & replaced a disc . I was finally to the point
that it was all pain all the time . There was a added bonus to
this surgery , I had a heart attack that nite & after months
of telling my Dr's what was going on with me they finally said oh
yea , so there was something wrong .? Now we know whats been going
on with my heart so added bonus . I still can't walk more than
20-30 ' at a time so that's next to dissect .So a? bit of
preaching here if yer Doc don't listen get another . Stress test
don't tell or find everything . I had a heart attach a month after
my last heart attack . Be your own advocate !!!
??? now back to our previous channel . I'll have to look into the
specs for my concrete . The most I would be lifting with the HF
crane is a chuck for either lathe or my 10" rotary table , so I'm
a good hunk under 100 lbs . I've had a engine hoist for many years
& it's has been used more for other things more than lifting
engines . I like the fact that it will collapse , I also have one
of those HF hydraulic carts , best 100 bucks I ever spent ,
although it came into my life much later that it should have . It
goes high enough & then some that I can slide stuff from the
tailgate of the truck right onto the cart . Unfortunately It has
had my Enco /Rong FU mill sitting on it for the last 3 years . I
do have to say that if yer ever planing on buying one of these
carts the 1000 lb unit has much heavier casters than the 500 lb
one has,? as told to me by a guy that has the 500 lb cart . Looks
like their $ 120.00 difference between the two . I do not know if
the cart goes high enough to where I could slide a chuck on to the
bed of either lathe , I don't think it does . I know it would work
for the rotary table to the mill but then it's something on the
floor in my machine room & I really don't want that . I may
just end up making a track from Unistrut , but if I want to use
the electric hoist I won't be able to reach all 3 machines with it
. Decisions, decisions .
??? Another thing for a back saver is if ya have the room a
motorcycle lift , it can't be beat . I use mine for a portable
work bench , Generator repair , snow blower repair & anything
else that I can get onto the table . I still haven't had either
motorcycle on it but there's always something on it being worked
on . I have a pallet rack on one side of my shop & I can slide
the lift under the rack when not in use , though that hasn't
happened but once in 5 years . I tore apart a hospital bed up at
out local hospital & I think one of the shorter lift
assemblies may find it's way to the motorcycle lift . Anyone know
where I can get a small like 1 1/2 " load cell Cheap so I can
figure out the lifting force of the lift jack ? I'f I had paid
attention more in school I could probably figure it out but that
boat sailed a log time ago .
end of ramble
thanks
animal
On 8/21/24 12:30 PM, William Warne
wrote:
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Back surgery is the worse
there is.? But sometimes the pain makes you do it.? Part of
life and getting old I guess, but OKC Bill is right.? Do your
best to protect what you have.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:24:31 PM PDT, Bill
in OKC too via groups.io
<wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
Let's just say there are reasons I now have a
bad back. One of them is that I didn't expect to
make it to age 30. There was no chance I was going
to leave a good-looking corpse, so I just didn't
worry about much of anything.?
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Re: My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910...
Well, I have a Bridgeport M head that I could sell.?
I bought it to restore the horizontal milling machine and to add vertical milling capability, but it has been sitting for 2 years now.?I have to admit to myself that I probably won't get to it anytime?soon and it will probably serve someone else better than
it does me.
Be aware that it is very heavy, probably 100 pounds or more and would have to go freight, boxed, and strapped on a pallet. I am located in Virginia, for reference.?
He can make me a reasonable offer.?
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Show quoted text
A friend?in Austin Texas has a Millright?mill that needs either a spindle rebuild or a new head. If interested let me know and I will pass the word along.? ?Bill
It is a capable little milling machine.?
The vertical head will probably fit on a lot of horizontal mills. Alternatively, an "inexpensive" Bridgeport Model M head would probably serve better on a bigger horizontal mill conversion.?
I think your model 850 has about 3" more elevation on column than my model 80 but all other movements are the same. You might be able to fit in boring bar or drill chuck in the 850.
--
Clayton Percy
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Back surgery is the worse there is.? But sometimes the pain makes you do it.? Part of life and getting old I guess, but OKC Bill is right.? Do your best to protect what you have.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:24:31 PM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
Let's just say there are reasons I now have a bad back. One of them is that I didn't expect to make it to age 30. There was no chance I was going to leave a good-looking corpse, so I just didn't worry about much of anything.?
Only now I'm 69, and wishing I'd taken better care of myself. Saw a neurosergeon's PA a month or so ago. I'm not bad off enough it's worth risking surgery over, yet. But not at all good.?
For you younger guys, take good care of your skeleton. You're likely to need it for a long time! Learn from my fail! Do NOT be stupid like me!
Most of the older guys know what I'm talking about here. Too long dumber than a box of rocks. ;)
But I'm at least trainable, these days.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 01:36:40 PM CDT, William Warne <williamwarne@...> wrote:
Bill is a wise man.? The job of tools such as hoists is (to a degree) to protect us from our own stupidity.? How often do we lift more than we should?? I did that just yesterday.? Sooner or later a price is paid.? I vote for conservatism and safety ... after all, I need more time to pay off the debt I owe to my wife.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:01:45 AM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
I like stuff that is way overengineered for my usages. Those tend not to break as easily, and that is what I want between my poor tender body and sharp heavy things. YMMV, of course. ;)
So far I'm OK, but if I ever manage to get a larger lathe or shaper...
OTH, if I do, I suspect my wife and kids will have me committed.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:52:57 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
There is nothing in the home, home shop, or home garage weighing 2 tons that you will ever need to lift, Bill. What you have will serve you for the rest of your life and for a significant portion of that of your heirs.
Don't waste your money on a bigger engine hoist.
I have one because I couldn't afford the two-ton hoist. Over the past 10 years or so it's worked for everything I've needed to lift. If I ever find an affordable two-ton lift, I will get it, but haven't yet actually needed one yet. Though my back isn't
getting any better!?
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 10:15:25 AM CDT, Jon Elson <elson@...> wrote:
On 8/20/24 09:40, Andrei wrote:
Can you use one of these?
Yes, I have one very similar to that one.? I rarely use it,
but have lifted a 300+ Lb surface plate up onto a table,
lifted the table off my Bridgeport R2E3, and lifted the
headstock off my Sheldon R15 lathe.? No way could I have
done any of these without the crane.
Jon
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Let's just say there are reasons I now have a bad back. One of them is that I didn't expect to make it to age 30. There was no chance I was going to leave a good-looking corpse, so I just didn't worry about much of anything.?
Only now I'm 69, and wishing I'd taken better care of myself. Saw a neurosergeon's PA a month or so ago. I'm not bad off enough it's worth risking surgery over, yet. But not at all good.?
For you younger guys, take good care of your skeleton. You're likely to need it for a long time! Learn from my fail! Do NOT be stupid like me!
Most of the older guys know what I'm talking about here. Too long dumber than a box of rocks. ;)
But I'm at least trainable, these days.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 01:36:40 PM CDT, William Warne <williamwarne@...> wrote:
Bill is a wise man.? The job of tools such as hoists is (to a degree) to protect us from our own stupidity.? How often do we lift more than we should?? I did that just yesterday.? Sooner or later a price is paid.? I vote for conservatism and safety ... after all, I need more time to pay off the debt I owe to my wife.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:01:45 AM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
I like stuff that is way overengineered for my usages. Those tend not to break as easily, and that is what I want between my poor tender body and sharp heavy things. YMMV, of course. ;)
So far I'm OK, but if I ever manage to get a larger lathe or shaper...
OTH, if I do, I suspect my wife and kids will have me committed.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:52:57 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
There is nothing in the home, home shop, or home garage weighing 2 tons that you will ever need to lift, Bill. What you have will serve you for the rest of your life and for a significant portion of that of your heirs.
Don't waste your money on a bigger engine hoist.
I have one because I couldn't afford the two-ton hoist. Over the past 10 years or so it's worked for everything I've needed to lift. If I ever find an affordable two-ton lift, I will get it, but haven't yet actually needed one yet. Though my back isn't
getting any better!?
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 10:15:25 AM CDT, Jon Elson <elson@...> wrote:
On 8/20/24 09:40, Andrei wrote:
Can you use one of these?
Yes, I have one very similar to that one.? I rarely use it,
but have lifted a 300+ Lb surface plate up onto a table,
lifted the table off my Bridgeport R2E3, and lifted the
headstock off my Sheldon R15 lathe.? No way could I have
done any of these without the crane.
Jon
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Bill is a wise man.? The job of tools such as hoists is (to a degree) to protect us from our own stupidity.? How often do we lift more than we should?? I did that just yesterday.? Sooner or later a price is paid.? I vote for conservatism and safety ... after all, I need more time to pay off the debt I owe to my wife.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:01:45 AM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
I like stuff that is way overengineered for my usages. Those tend not to break as easily, and that is what I want between my poor tender body and sharp heavy things. YMMV, of course. ;)
So far I'm OK, but if I ever manage to get a larger lathe or shaper...
OTH, if I do, I suspect my wife and kids will have me committed.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:52:57 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
There is nothing in the home, home shop, or home garage weighing 2 tons that you will ever need to lift, Bill. What you have will serve you for the rest of your life and for a significant portion of that of your heirs.
Don't waste your money on a bigger engine hoist.
I have one because I couldn't afford the two-ton hoist. Over the past 10 years or so it's worked for everything I've needed to lift. If I ever find an affordable two-ton lift, I will get it, but haven't yet actually needed one yet. Though my back isn't
getting any better!?
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 10:15:25 AM CDT, Jon Elson <elson@...> wrote:
On 8/20/24 09:40, Andrei wrote:
Can you use one of these?
Yes, I have one very similar to that one.? I rarely use it,
but have lifted a 300+ Lb surface plate up onto a table,
lifted the table off my Bridgeport R2E3, and lifted the
headstock off my Sheldon R15 lathe.? No way could I have
done any of these without the crane.
Jon
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Jim F
Bill in OKC too