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Re: Atlas 10 TV36 4 step Drive Pulley

 

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You can search for 10F parts as they are the same as your lathe.?
The V stands for vertical location of the motor shaft.?
Search EBay is the best option.?

On Mar 28, 2024, at 5:38?PM, sawforge@... wrote:

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Good evening folks.

I acquired this Atlas 10 TV36 lathe last year. Not had much time to put it to use but I bought it because it was in good condition and within my area (it is hard to have equipment send via pallet where I live).
My main use would be for turning sockets for various jobs I do in mild steel.?

I'm new to this type of machine and need to be able to adjust the speed. However, as you can see from the pictures, there is only a single drive pulley.

I was told from another owner that I'm looking for a 19mm (3/4) bore keyway 150/125/100/75mm.

Would someone be able to inform me if this is correct, and if so, are there an UK based suppliers where I can purchase one?

Thanks for you time
Steve

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Atlas 10 TV36 4 step Drive Pulley

 

Good evening folks.

I acquired this Atlas 10 TV36 lathe last year. Not had much time to put it to use but I bought it because it was in good condition and within my area (it is hard to have equipment send via pallet where I live).
My main use would be for turning sockets for various jobs I do in mild steel.?

I'm new to this type of machine and need to be able to adjust the speed. However, as you can see from the pictures, there is only a single drive pulley.

I was told from another owner that I'm looking for a 19mm (3/4) bore keyway 150/125/100/75mm.

Would someone be able to inform me if this is correct, and if so, are there an UK based suppliers where I can purchase one?

Thanks for you time
Steve


Re: Atlas Lathe Parts For Sale. 4 Jaw chuck VME chuck, like new used once, $125 plus shipping. Contact R Eggleston 417-840-6258 CTZ.

 

What is the capacity of the chuck?

God bless you all and best regards
Roger Francis Karl
Manchester, Maine
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On Monday, March 25, 2024 at 10:28:52 AM EDT, Robert Eggleston <egglestonrobert8@...> wrote:




Atlas Lathe Parts For Sale. 4 Jaw chuck VME chuck, like new used once, $125 plus shipping. Contact R Eggleston 417-840-6258 CTZ.

 



Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

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Glad to know it was more than user error causing my poor results. It is a little discouraging when the dross outweighs the product. Between the aluminum can fiasco and starting a magnesium fire, I have become more selective on my choice of scrap to melt.

On 3/24/2024 7:13 AM, Kay Davis wrote:

They first put the cans in a crusher and crush them to increase the density then they go into a melting furnace and crank up the electricity, this breates an oxygen free zone over the melt and given the cans have nbeen crushed there if a very low area exposed to oxygen

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mike Poore
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 9:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

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When I tried melting AL cans, I mostly got Al2O3. It was my conclusion that the high surface area to weight lead to the high conversion rate. I think that they re-smelt old cans.



Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

Definitely true. WHenever I have to cut them, I'll use a cutoff wheel because I don't feel bad about burning those out. They're good to weld though.

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 9:16?PM Jon Elson <elson@...> wrote:
On 3/22/24 19:23, eddembowski wrote:
Whenever I have to swing by the dump, I go to the metal
dropoff to see what's there. You never know what comes up,
but a lot of times I'll see scrap that's good for welding
or making something out of. Whenever I see a bed frame
thrown out, I snap it up because it's a great source of
angle iron.
Bed frames are horrible stuff.? Yes, it looks like angle
iron, but is VERY hard and tough on cutting tools.

Jon


Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

I take my cans to the scrap yard and sell them for scrap and buy diesel pistons.

for 3 reasons,?

1.? better grade of aluminium, probably one fo the best grade of cast aluminium available at a scrap yard.

2. much less "loss",? IE an experienced caster, a sculpture professor at University of Kentucky where I learned casting told me you will lose about half the weight of the cans when casting because the paint and interior coatins burn off, and some aluminium is lost to dross

3 the end results are much better for me.? castings are much less porous, better finish.

Given the price I receive from cans here in central Kentucky is 2/3 the cost of "dirty aluminium", and the loss of half the weight of the cans, I end out ahead in the long run.? diesel pistons should be always considered "dirty aluminium" because of the steel rings cast inside the pistons.? The rings melt out of the piston, (they do remain solid in the melted alumium) and fall out of the crucible at the end of the pour when I scrape dross etc out of the crucible.


Another web site that may be of interest

 

An interesting web site:


Dennis


Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

They first put the cans in a crusher and crush them to increase the density then they go into a melting furnace and crank up the electricity, this breates an oxygen free zone over the melt and given the cans have nbeen crushed there if a very low area exposed to oxygen

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mike Poore
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 9:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

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When I tried melting AL cans, I mostly got Al2O3. It was my conclusion that the high surface area to weight lead to the high conversion rate. I think that they re-smelt old cans.


Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

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When I tried melting AL cans, I mostly got Al2O3. It was my conclusion that the high surface area to weight lead to the high conversion rate. I think that they re-smelt old cans.

On 3/23/2024 7:11 PM, Lbrewer42 wrote:

Great ideas all.? As far as it being dangerous pouring aluminum...been pouring molten metal literally since I was a kid.? Old enough also to have come from a total DIY family/mindset so what was unfamiliar meant educate yourself thoroughly, use common sense and take personal responsibility if you mess up.? ??

In fact, for the fun of it, it might be interesting to melt cans anyway (no return on them in Ohio like in Oregon and I probably could a lot of them), find what is needed to make a good alloy, and make it.

I have a 10" Atlas that was used years ago in a factory for???? I am guessing it will handle anything I would want to throw at it.?


Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

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If tou want to melt aluminum,? go get some damage aluminum rims. Better quality aluminum.

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Lbrewer42 <lbrewer_42@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 7:11:21 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps
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Great ideas all.? As far as it being dangerous pouring aluminum...been pouring molten metal literally since I was a kid.? Old enough also to have come from a total DIY family/mindset so what was unfamiliar meant educate yourself thoroughly, use common sense and take personal responsibility if you mess up.? ??

In fact, for the fun of it, it might be interesting to melt cans anyway (no return on them in Ohio like in Oregon and I probably could a lot of them), find what is needed to make a good alloy, and make it.

I have a 10" Atlas that was used years ago in a factory for???? I am guessing it will handle anything I would want to throw at it.?


Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

Great ideas all.? As far as it being dangerous pouring aluminum...been pouring molten metal literally since I was a kid.? Old enough also to have come from a total DIY family/mindset so what was unfamiliar meant educate yourself thoroughly, use common sense and take personal responsibility if you mess up.? ??

In fact, for the fun of it, it might be interesting to melt cans anyway (no return on them in Ohio like in Oregon and I probably could a lot of them), find what is needed to make a good alloy, and make it.

I have a 10" Atlas that was used years ago in a factory for???? I am guessing it will handle anything I would want to throw at it.?


Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

I’ve read where some bed frames are made of recycled railroad tracks. That’s why there is some hardened steel from the top of the rails as part of the iron.?

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 9:35?AM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers=[email protected]> wrote:
It's great for construction projects where thin angle iron will work. Yes, it is hard. Sometimes that's a feature, not a bug.? ;) Cuts easily enough if you have an abrasive blade chop saw or an angle grinder and thin cut-off wheels. You can punch holes it it with a good punch & either a lead block, or an end-grain hardwood block & hammer. I have an 8# sledge hammer with an 18" handle that works well for that.

Used the same technique for jewelry work, with a lighter hammer, and for armouring, back when the wife and I were in the Society for Creative Anachronism. Works for placing bolts, rivets, and jump rings. Or you can drill the holes with a carbide bit.



Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:16:46 PM CDT, Jon Elson <elson@...> wrote:


On 3/22/24 19:23, eddembowski wrote:
Whenever I have to swing by the dump, I go to the metal
dropoff to see what's there. You never know what comes up,
but a lot of times I'll see scrap that's good for welding
or making something out of. Whenever I see a bed frame
thrown out, I snap it up because it's a great source of
angle iron.
Bed frames are horrible stuff.? Yes, it looks like angle
iron, but is VERY hard and tough on cutting tools.

Jon


Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

It's great for construction projects where thin angle iron will work. Yes, it is hard. Sometimes that's a feature, not a bug.? ;) Cuts easily enough if you have an abrasive blade chop saw or an angle grinder and thin cut-off wheels. You can punch holes it it with a good punch & either a lead block, or an end-grain hardwood block & hammer. I have an 8# sledge hammer with an 18" handle that works well for that.

Used the same technique for jewelry work, with a lighter hammer, and for armouring, back when the wife and I were in the Society for Creative Anachronism. Works for placing bolts, rivets, and jump rings. Or you can drill the holes with a carbide bit.

https://www.sca.org

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:16:46 PM CDT, Jon Elson <elson@...> wrote:


On 3/22/24 19:23, eddembowski wrote:
Whenever I have to swing by the dump, I go to the metal
dropoff to see what's there. You never know what comes up,
but a lot of times I'll see scrap that's good for welding
or making something out of. Whenever I see a bed frame
thrown out, I snap it up because it's a great source of
angle iron.
Bed frames are horrible stuff.? Yes, it looks like angle
iron, but is VERY hard and tough on cutting tools.

Jon


Re: Craftsman Lathe 101.07403

 

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I think that the high precision line of bearings from Timken is called Fafnir.

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Busted Knuckle <arzander55@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 8:13:45 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Craftsman Lathe 101.07403
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The product numbers for the Timkin tapered roller bearings are 16150 for the cone and 16284 B for the cup. This assembly is currently available in Standard Precision (Class 2), but what precision bearings did the lathe originally come with. There is a 3 engraved on the cup & cone of the bearing set. Could that be the class of precision?


Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

True on bed frames; it is very high carbon, BUT if you have the ability to forge that material it makes excellent tools.


Re: Craftsman Lathe 101.07403

 

The product numbers for the Timkin tapered roller bearings are 16150 for the cone and 16284 B for the cup. This assembly is currently available in Standard Precision (Class 2), but what precision bearings did the lathe originally come with. There is a 3 engraved on the cup & cone of the bearing set. Could that be the class of precision?


Re: Craftsman Lathe 101.07403

 

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You may want to post the Timken bearing codes.?

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Busted Knuckle <arzander55@...>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 7:01:27 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Craftsman Lathe 101.07403
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Greetings,
I’m working on getting the subject lathe up and running. The Timkin tapered roller bearings on the spindle were made in June 1946, so I figure the lathe was produced when Craftsman started selling lathes after WW2. I would like to know what precision class the original tapered roller bearings were. Would they have been Standard (Class 4 or 2), or would they have been Class 3. It is my understanding that Timkin ?Class 3 tapered roller bearings are no longer available for the subject lathe. Is that correct?


Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

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Sell the cans and use the money to buy aluminum stock. Faster, cheaper, better material.

On 3/21/2024 10:15 AM, Lbrewer42 wrote:

Yes, I have a local Tractor supply etc. where I can buy metal. But as with most subjects, I find experienced people have tricks up their sleeve. I just want some stuff to learn to turn with. B/c I am not experienced I am thinking old railroad spikes, making a forge and melting aluminum cans (I know its low grade, but i just want to learn to make chips with different metals), large bolts, etc. But what are some ideas other hobbyists have found for obtaining metal to turn while not cracking open the wallet and shelling out big bucks? I don't even have projects in mind really, just wanting the hands on experience with different metals.
Thanks for any ideas,
Lee


Re: Ideas on getting free/inexpensive stock/scraps

 

On 3/22/24 19:23, eddembowski wrote:
Whenever I have to swing by the dump, I go to the metal
dropoff to see what's there. You never know what comes up,
but a lot of times I'll see scrap that's good for welding
or making something out of. Whenever I see a bed frame
thrown out, I snap it up because it's a great source of
angle iron.
Bed frames are horrible stuff.? Yes, it looks like angle
iron, but is VERY hard and tough on cutting tools.

Jon