Oh, if you buy an older chuck, you're taking pot luck that it will be useable. I put a Shars 4-jaw 6" chuck on my Atlas when I bought it, because the Atlas chuck that came with it was out by .014".? And the Shars was cheaper than an original Atlas chuck. Which might be good, but might not. I would love to put a Buck Adjust-tru chuck on it, but they cost more than I paid for any of my larger lathes. If I were working as a machinist, that would probably be easily justifiable. As a hobbyist, nope! YMMV!
With a decent 4-jaw and a stub spindle you get better accuracy than you would with all but the best 3-jaw chucks, and less time spent dialing parts in. You don't always need the accuracy of a 4-jaw, but I don't see it hurting anything unless you're working for high production. Your needs are unlikely to match mine, so my advise may not fit at all, but! A stub spindle will speed you up with a 3 jaw chuck, too, so very worth doing.
Bill in OKC?
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Make yourself a dummy spindle stub. First single-point threading project I did in my machine shop class, instead of what I was supposed to make, was just that. You cut it to as exactly duplicate the lathe spindle as you? can manage, and use it to check fit on stuff to go on your spindle. Saves a lot of time and setup work! It's also nothing fancy. I actually made two of them, one being 1-1/2"-8 tpi cut on a 3" or 4" piece of 2" round stock for my Atlas TH42, and the other 2-1/4"-8 tpi on a 4" or 5" piece of 3" round stock.?
Bill in OKC?
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bobogent <vitroholic@...> added the album
Bob's 10" for sale
: here's the lathe I'm selling, along with the accessories
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9" lathe for sale with accessories
I haven't been on the group for so long, I'd forgotten it had to migrate away from Yahoo
With that in mind, ?I apologize if this post is in the?wrong place
I have a 10" (not nine) atlas lathe with assorted accessories, including turret, milling attachment, steady and follow rests, quick change tool post, collet holder, some collets, small three jaw chuck, larger four jaw chuck Boring bar, knurling tool, a few incomplete accessories, like taper bar, change gears and a few mystery parts. Comes with a good wooden cabinet with three drawers, work light and pan for coolant. it's not in perfect shape. The switch could stand rewiring- reverse doesn't work. The power feed F/R lever isn't working that well either Still, with a little TLC, this can be a good tool for your shop, and at a decent price. I'll get some photos loaded soon, Meanwhile, here's my local craigslist ad, which has pics
https://lawrence.craigslist.org/tls/d/lecompton-atlas-craftsman-lathe/7639611251.html
Can load on your truck or trailer
$1800 OBO
Cash only FOB Lecompton, KS
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Re: Looking for lathe manual for model Sears Craftsman 549-289000
I only provided a link to a manual that was requested in the discussion.? Sorry to upset anyone.
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Re: Looking for lathe manual for model Sears Craftsman 549-289000
The folks on this forum did all the? contractor code work ,
animal
On 7/3/23 1:10 PM, Robert Downs via
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Ron, This is not primarily a
Sears Craftsman web site.? It is an Atlas site that also
covers Atlas built lathes. mills, etc that were also sold by
Sears.? The Sears Contractor
code for Atlas is 101, not 549. ? I do not happen to know who
549 is the Contractor Code for and don't know what I did with
the list that would ID 549 but you would likely be better
served by calling the nearest Sears store and determining who
549
id's and then searching for
that.
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 12:54:00 PM CDT, Ron Hlavac
via groups.io <hlavacre@...> wrote:
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Re: Looking for lathe manual for model Sears Craftsman 549-289000
549 is the vendor code for Emco, an Austrian machine tool manufacturer who made lathes and mills until a decade or two ago. Now they make vertical machining centers and all sorts of cnc equipment.?
Their manual lathes range from the lowly Unimat to the 13 inch toolroom Maximat.?
Hope this helps.?
P.S. What is Sears?
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Ron, This is not primarily a Sears Craftsman web site.? It is an Atlas site that also covers Atlas built lathes. mills, etc that were also sold by
Sears.? The Sears Contractor code for Atlas is 101, not 549. ? I do not happen to know who 549 is the Contractor Code for and don't know what I did with the list that would ID 549 but you would likely be better served by calling
the nearest Sears store and determining who 549
id's and then searching for that.
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 12:54:00 PM CDT, Ron Hlavac via groups.io <hlavacre@...> wrote:
https://manualmachine.com/emcowinnc/compact5/4714723-user-manual/
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Re: Looking for lathe manual for model Sears Craftsman 549-289000
Ron, This is not primarily a Sears Craftsman web site.? It is an Atlas site that also covers Atlas built lathes. mills, etc that were also sold by
Sears.? The Sears Contractor code for Atlas is 101, not 549. ? I do not happen to know who 549 is the Contractor Code for and don't know what I did with the list that would ID 549 but you would likely be better served by calling the nearest Sears store and determining who 549
id's and then searching for that.
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 12:54:00 PM CDT, Ron Hlavac via groups.io <hlavacre@...> wrote:
https://manualmachine.com/emcowinnc/compact5/4714723-user-manual/
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Re: Looking for lathe manual for model Sears Craftsman 549-289000
https://manualmachine.com/emcowinnc/compact5/4714723-user-manual/
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
Make sure that the sling's are not contacting the leadscrew at
any point . Remove the tailstock , chuck , anything else to
lighten it up some . the balance point of a lathe in the air can
change at any second . Best to remove from the base/stand &
keep the unit a low to the ground when moving .
animal
On 7/2/23 11:33 AM, David Matthews
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I am just going to put some slings under it and lift it
with an engine hoist.?? Most likely I will rent a u haul
trailer instead of trying to pick it up far enough to put it
in the pickup.? Dropping big stuff down the outside steps into
the cellar involves a John Deere 4300 and a chain fall.
Dave
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at
12:28?AM wa5jat/Jim Hudson < jlhudson1@...>
wrote:
Caution
is the watch word if you are going to move it youself S they
are very top heavy and will fall over before you can blink.
I would suggest bolting it to a large sheet of 3/4 plywood for
transport.
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
It will definitely go into the cellar in two pieces.? Taking it apart in someone's garage will be based on how hard it is to get it apart.? I need to look at it first.? I am finding nothing on how to release the belts to the spindle from the bottom.? The last thing to make the trip into the cellar was a 725 pound Enco Mill/Drill.? I will probably bolt the lathe to a 8' 2x10 and just sort of slide it down the stairs using the tractor as an anchor and the engine hoist to pick up the bottom end and roll it into the cellar.
Dave
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 2:41?PM Andrei < calciu1@...> wrote:
I would take it off the stand, first. Makes life easier.
Get
I am just going to put some slings under it and lift it with an engine hoist.?? Most likely I will rent a u haul trailer instead of trying to pick it up far enough to put it in the pickup.? Dropping big stuff down the outside steps into the cellar involves
a John Deere 4300 and a chain fall.
Dave
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 12:28?AM wa5jat/Jim Hudson < jlhudson1@...> wrote:
Caution is the watch word if you are going to move it youself S they are very top heavy and will fall over before you can blink.
I would suggest bolting it to a large sheet of 3/4 plywood for transport.
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
I would take it off the stand, first. Makes life easier.
Get
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I am just going to put some slings under it and lift it with an engine hoist.?? Most likely I will rent a u haul trailer instead of trying to pick it up far enough to put it in the pickup.? Dropping big stuff down the outside steps into the cellar involves
a John Deere 4300 and a chain fall.
Dave
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 12:28?AM wa5jat/Jim Hudson < jlhudson1@...> wrote:
Caution is the watch word if you are going to move it youself S they are very top heavy and will fall over before you can blink.
I would suggest bolting it to a large sheet of 3/4 plywood for transport.
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
I am just going to put some slings under it and lift it with an engine hoist.?? Most likely I will rent a u haul trailer instead of trying to pick it up far enough to put it in the pickup.? Dropping big stuff down the outside steps into the cellar involves a John Deere 4300 and a chain fall.
Dave
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 12:28?AM wa5jat/Jim Hudson < jlhudson1@...> wrote: Caution is the watch word if you are going to move it youself S they are very top heavy and will fall over before you can blink.
I would suggest bolting it to a large sheet of 3/4 plywood for transport.
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
Caution is the watch word if you are going to move it youself S they are very top heavy and will fall over before you can blink.
I would suggest bolting it to a large sheet of 3/4 plywood for transport.
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If they have anything in Tulsa, I'd be willing to drive there. ;)?
Here lately, though, I've not been going much of anywhere except doctor's appointments. My brother moved to a small town in SW Missouri over a year ago, and I've not been able to go see his new place, yet.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 02:38:41 PM CDT, Allen Underdown via groups.io <allen@...> wrote:
I drive up to Peoria for the Hamfest, but that's just too far.
You might talk me into going as far as Tulsa in the SW direction, but only if Bill in OKC would be there!
:)
Anybody know of anything closer to STL?
Allen Underdown
allen@...
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Jun 29, 2023 12:05:17 PM Chipbreaker13 <john.lillig@...>:
I went to ArnFest last year. Its promoted as an Annual celebration of vintage machinery. There were ~30-40 sellers set up to sell there stuff on Saturday for the swap meet. Not all machinist related but enough for me to be happy. It took me less than an hour to see the whole swap meet. I sold some stuff and Mr. Pete was selling there next to me. I bought a chunk of aluminum from him. The swap meet was in Union, IL in the Illinois Railway Museum parking lot. This is a multiday event with lots of activities. You can google "ArnFest Illinois" and find their web site for further details. This years ArnFest is Sep 21-24.
No affiliation but a fun time if you like trains or vintage machinery.
John
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I drive up to Peoria for the Hamfest, but that's just too far.
You might talk me into going as far as Tulsa in the SW direction, but only if Bill in OKC would be there!
:)
Anybody know of anything closer to STL?
Allen Underdown
allen@...
Sent from my mobile device.
Jun 29, 2023 12:05:17 PM Chipbreaker13 <john.lillig@...>:
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I went to ArnFest last year. Its promoted as an Annual celebration of vintage machinery. There were ~30-40 sellers set up to sell there stuff on Saturday for the swap meet. Not all machinist related but enough for me to be happy. It took me less than an hour to see the whole swap meet. I sold some stuff and Mr. Pete was selling there next to me. I bought a chunk of aluminum from him. The swap meet was in Union, IL in the Illinois Railway Museum parking lot. This is a multiday event with lots of activities. You can google "ArnFest Illinois" and find their web site for further details. This years ArnFest is Sep 21-24.
No affiliation but a fun time if you like trains or vintage machinery.
John
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
I definitely understand the cost of tooling.? The little 6x18 Craftsman I have was bad enough and the Enco mill that I got in March is getting really bad.? Luckily I got that on its shipping pallet for about 1/2 the price of a new one and the guy threw in a Bridgeport vise.
Dave
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 1:38?PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? If you make it over to look at it spend some time
scouring the garage for any other parts that may go with it ,
steady & follower rest , extra chuck , centers . Those are all
things that you will end up buying at some point if they don't
come with the machine .Take a indicator with you & run it up
& down the ways & check the spindle runout . The results
from those checks could be a bargaining tool in your favor .
animal
On 6/30/23 8:59 AM, Andrei wrote:
A quick search of eBay shows sold Atlas 12-inch
lathes selling for $1500-$1800. A search of Craigslist shows
$1,500 price as a midpoint with the lowest being in Nevada at
800 bucks.?
If you can get a discount from that, more power to you.
Considering it is a fire sale, offer them $1,000 and see where
that takes you.?
A brand new 12" lathe from Precision
Matthews is $4,300 and comes with v-ways, fully tooled with
chuck, fixed and following rest, and a bunch of other stuff,
including warranty.?
Now you have a lot of data to help you
decide on an offer.
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from here that I
replied to in an ad.? Not great photos but it has a 3 jaw
and shows a quick change tool post with a boring bar in it.?
It looks like a garage and fairly accessible.? It is being
advertised for a client by what appears to be a real estate
agent.? Story is older guy in ill health and wife getting
rid of the house.? I have an engine hoist so I could move it
into my pickup, possibly by removing the lathe from the
table.
I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of interest
because the seller messaged me this morning implying that
they were very open to offers.
What is a reasonable price range on one of these lathes??
Looks to be a 12".? Serial is 005555.
Dave
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
Looking like we might be getting to $1000.? I need to find a manual and look at how it comes apart for loading.? I have an engine hoist and a Chevy Colorado long bed.
Dave
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 12:00?PM Andrei < calciu1@...> wrote:
A quick search of eBay shows sold Atlas 12-inch lathes selling for $1500-$1800. A search of Craigslist shows $1,500 price as a midpoint with the lowest being in Nevada at 800 bucks.?
If you can get a discount from that, more power to you. Considering it is a fire sale, offer them $1,000 and see where that takes you.?
A brand new 12" lathe from Precision Matthews is $4,300 and comes with v-ways, fully tooled with chuck, fixed and following rest, and
a bunch of other stuff, including warranty.?
Now you have a lot of data to help you decide on an offer.
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from here that I replied to in an ad.? Not great photos but it has a 3 jaw and shows a quick change tool post with a boring bar in it.? It looks like a garage and fairly accessible.? It is being advertised for a client
by what appears to be a real estate agent.? Story is older guy in ill health and wife getting rid of the house.? I have an engine hoist so I could move it into my pickup, possibly by removing the lathe from the table.
I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of interest because the seller messaged me this morning implying that they were very open to offers.
What is a reasonable price range on one of these lathes?? Looks to be a 12".? Serial is 005555.
Dave
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
??? ??? If you make it over to look at it spend some time
scouring the garage for any other parts that may go with it ,
steady & follower rest , extra chuck , centers . Those are all
things that you will end up buying at some point if they don't
come with the machine .Take a indicator with you & run it up
& down the ways & check the spindle runout . The results
from those checks could be a bargaining tool in your favor .
animal
On 6/30/23 8:59 AM, Andrei wrote:
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A quick search of eBay shows sold Atlas 12-inch
lathes selling for $1500-$1800. A search of Craigslist shows
$1,500 price as a midpoint with the lowest being in Nevada at
800 bucks.?
If you can get a discount from that, more power to you.
Considering it is a fire sale, offer them $1,000 and see where
that takes you.?
A brand new 12" lathe from Precision
Matthews is $4,300 and comes with v-ways, fully tooled with
chuck, fixed and following rest, and a bunch of other stuff,
including warranty.?
Now you have a lot of data to help you
decide on an offer.
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from here that I
replied to in an ad.? Not great photos but it has a 3 jaw
and shows a quick change tool post with a boring bar in it.?
It looks like a garage and fairly accessible.? It is being
advertised for a client by what appears to be a real estate
agent.? Story is older guy in ill health and wife getting
rid of the house.? I have an engine hoist so I could move it
into my pickup, possibly by removing the lathe from the
table.
I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of interest
because the seller messaged me this morning implying that
they were very open to offers.
What is a reasonable price range on one of these lathes??
Looks to be a 12".? Serial is 005555.
Dave
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
I'd say 1000 to 2000 assuming it is in good condition and depending on what comes with it.? Steady rests, milling attachments, etc, are valuable.? Atlas lathes seem to have jumped in price over the last few years. ? But price depends a lot on the local market. ?
I recommend finding someone who is familiar with Atlas lathes to go with you for inspection.? It would be easy to spend hundreds more replacing things that are broken or missing.? And a badly worn bed or spindle could turn the lathe into scrap.?
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Bill in OKC too
wa5jat/Jim Hudson
Jon M