Re: Finding small objects
After losing way too many tiny parts, I bought a large aluminum baking
pan at the Dollar Store. I do all of my disassembly and reassembly
projects in the pan. It makes locating loose parts much easier.
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Not in the guard, heard it hit elsewhere. I'LL find it someday.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Brian Cayer <b.k.cayer@...> Date: 4/22/20 9:49 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects
That would depend on if the wheel had any guard on it at all. If so it may be in the belly of the beast. Waiting for the next wheel change to be discovered.
On Apr 22, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Whitney Philbrick via groups.io <WhitPUSMC@...> wrote:
? In this case I wouldn’t recommend adding more similar parts and watching where they go.... kinda dangerous.... On Apr 22, 2020, at 12:08 PM, perry7122 <perry7122@...> wrote:
? Any suggestions for finding small parts thrown by the wire wheel on the grinder. Still can't find the bolt from my wifes unicycle.
Sent from my Boost Mobile Phone.
-------- Original message -------- From: mike allen <animal@...> Date: 4/21/20 11:29 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects
??? ??? walk around barefooted
??? ??? animal
On 4/21/2020 8:17 PM, kaje7777 wrote:
Bruce - Those are good tips. I've used that flashlight trick
before; sometimes it even works from a standing position if you
use a flashlight with a concentrated beam - it acts like a
spotlight tofocus your attention and highlight small objects.
Here's two more tips:
1. Take an object identical to the dropped object and place it on
the floor. For example,if you dropped a screw, place an identical
screw on the floor. This tells you what the dropped object is
going to look like when you search for it and helps you do mental
"pattern matching."
2. Go ahead and sweep the floor! The collect all of the sweepings
in a dustpan and look for your dropped item. You get a swept floor
as a bonus, and maybe find a couple other things you dropped a
while back. Sometimes if I drop a common object like a nut or
screw, if I don't spot it immediately I don't even bother to look
for it. I just grab another one from the part drawer, knowing I'll
find it on the next sweep-up.
One last trick: Dropped objects always seem to
bounce under
the workbench. I installed "kickboards" on the bottom front of my
workbenches to keep that from happening (make them easy to remove,
because somehow stuff seems to get under there anyway!).
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Re: Finding small objects
Bill . . .? look for something else . .? you might find it :>)
My late Dad always made a point of carefully sorting through the sweepings after cleaning garage / workshop , before finally dumping it in the trash . . . .?
Take care,
Carvel ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via groups.io
Sent: 23 April 2020 03:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects ? I experienced that with the firing pin sproing from a Mosin Nagant rifle bolt recently. No, that's not a misspelling, it's the sound it made disappearing. I bought two spares, installed one. I don't expect to ever see either of the other two again. ;)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 06:14:18 PM CDT, John Stainkamp <stainkampjohn@...> wrote: I once was installing a Japanese watchband where the instructions stated, and I quote: "Be careful installing the springs, as they may disappear"
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She also has two pogo ,sticks.? Fortunately she doesn't use any of the three. She buys and resells old stuff. I'm in charge of refurbishing as needed.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Jody <jp4lsu@...> Date: 4/22/20 1:54 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects
I think the most interesting thing in the email is "my wife's unicycle".
I haven't seen many wives with unicycle.?? -Jody
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S10+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "Whitney Philbrick via groups.io" <WhitPUSMC@...> Date: 4/22/20 12:39 PM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects
In this case I wouldn’t recommend adding more similar parts and watching where they go.... kinda dangerous.... On Apr 22, 2020, at 12:08 PM, perry7122 <perry7122@...> wrote:
? Any suggestions for finding small parts thrown by the wire wheel on the grinder. Still can't find the bolt from my wifes unicycle.
Sent from my Boost Mobile Phone.
-------- Original message -------- From: mike allen <animal@...> Date: 4/21/20 11:29 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects
??? ??? walk around barefooted
??? ??? animal
On 4/21/2020 8:17 PM, kaje7777 wrote:
Bruce - Those are good tips. I've used that flashlight trick
before; sometimes it even works from a standing position if you
use a flashlight with a concentrated beam - it acts like a
spotlight tofocus your attention and highlight small objects.
Here's two more tips:
1. Take an object identical to the dropped object and place it on
the floor. For example,if you dropped a screw, place an identical
screw on the floor. This tells you what the dropped object is
going to look like when you search for it and helps you do mental
"pattern matching."
2. Go ahead and sweep the floor! The collect all of the sweepings
in a dustpan and look for your dropped item. You get a swept floor
as a bonus, and maybe find a couple other things you dropped a
while back. Sometimes if I drop a common object like a nut or
screw, if I don't spot it immediately I don't even bother to look
for it. I just grab another one from the part drawer, knowing I'll
find it on the next sweep-up.
One last trick: Dropped objects always seem to
bounce under
the workbench. I installed "kickboards" on the bottom front of my
workbenches to keep that from happening (make them easy to remove,
because somehow stuff seems to get under there anyway!).
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??? ??? good thing there's a ka-zillion of them puppies out there
??? ??? animal
On 4/22/2020 6:27 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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I experienced that with the firing pin sproing from a Mosin
Nagant rifle bolt recently. No, that's not a misspelling, it's
the sound it made disappearing. I bought two spares, installed
one. I don't expect to ever see either of the other two again.
;)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take
orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a
new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
I once was installing a Japanese
watchband where the instructions stated, and I quote: "Be
careful installing the springs, as they may disappear"
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That would depend on if the wheel had any guard on it at all. If so it may be in the belly of the beast. Waiting for the next wheel change to be discovered.
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On Apr 22, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Whitney Philbrick via groups.io <WhitPUSMC@...> wrote:
? In this case I wouldn’t recommend adding more similar parts and watching where they go.... kinda dangerous.... On Apr 22, 2020, at 12:08 PM, perry7122 <perry7122@...> wrote:
? Any suggestions for finding small parts thrown by the wire wheel on the grinder. Still can't find the bolt from my wifes unicycle.
Sent from my Boost Mobile Phone.
-------- Original message -------- From: mike allen <animal@...> Date: 4/21/20 11:29 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects
??? ??? walk around barefooted
??? ??? animal
On 4/21/2020 8:17 PM, kaje7777 wrote:
Bruce - Those are good tips. I've used that flashlight trick
before; sometimes it even works from a standing position if you
use a flashlight with a concentrated beam - it acts like a
spotlight tofocus your attention and highlight small objects.
Here's two more tips:
1. Take an object identical to the dropped object and place it on
the floor. For example,if you dropped a screw, place an identical
screw on the floor. This tells you what the dropped object is
going to look like when you search for it and helps you do mental
"pattern matching."
2. Go ahead and sweep the floor! The collect all of the sweepings
in a dustpan and look for your dropped item. You get a swept floor
as a bonus, and maybe find a couple other things you dropped a
while back. Sometimes if I drop a common object like a nut or
screw, if I don't spot it immediately I don't even bother to look
for it. I just grab another one from the part drawer, knowing I'll
find it on the next sweep-up.
One last trick: Dropped objects always seem to
bounce under
the workbench. I installed "kickboards" on the bottom front of my
workbenches to keep that from happening (make them easy to remove,
because somehow stuff seems to get under there anyway!).
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Re: Finding small objects
Suing isn't going to work either, but that is "thinking outside the box." ;)
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 07:07:25 PM CDT, outlawmws via groups.io <outlawmws@...> wrote:
I've made up my mind to sue one of those sheets of rubberized magnetic stuff they use for signs to slap in a car door for a disassembly mat...? Won't work for non-ferris but...
? ?-Oultaw
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I experienced that with the firing pin sproing from a Mosin Nagant rifle bolt recently. No, that's not a misspelling, it's the sound it made disappearing. I bought two spares, installed one. I don't expect to ever see either of the other two again. ;)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 06:14:18 PM CDT, John Stainkamp <stainkampjohn@...> wrote:
I once was installing a Japanese watchband where the instructions stated, and I quote: "Be careful installing the springs, as they may disappear"
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I've made up my mind to sue one of those sheets of rubberized magnetic stuff they use for signs to slap in a car door for a disassembly mat...? Won't work for non-ferris but...
? ?-Oultaw
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This is actually quite dangerous and often counterproductive. ? As all seasoned craftsmen know, certain small parts will instantly dissolve when touching concrete and often certain formulations of linoleum.? Science has not yet learned how to predict this 5th state of matter only that it’s related to the value and availability of the dissolved part. ? But sometimes, it falls into another dimension.? That’s when things get dicey.? Because repeatedly dropping a similar part, even for such a good reason, is often considered harassment by them.? Then the little jerks will raid your dryer and take away single socks as trophies. ? Truth. ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kaje7777
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 10:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects? Bruce - Those are good tips. I've used that flashlight trick before; sometimes it even works from a standing position if you use a flashlight with a concentrated beam - it acts like a spotlight tofocus your attention and highlight small objects.
Here's two more tips:
1. Take an object identical to the dropped object and place it on the floor. For example,if you dropped a screw, place an identical screw on the floor. This tells you what the dropped object is going to look like when you search for it and helps you do mental "pattern matching."
2. Go ahead and sweep the floor! The collect all of the sweepings in a dustpan and look for your dropped item. You get a swept floor as a bonus, and maybe find a couple other things you dropped a while back. Sometimes if I drop a common object like a nut or screw, if I don't spot it immediately I don't even bother to look for it. I just grab another one from the part drawer, knowing I'll find it on the next sweep-up.
One last trick: Dropped objects always seem to bounce under the workbench. I installed "kickboards" on the bottom front of my workbenches to keep that from happening (make them easy to remove, because somehow stuff seems to get under there anyway!).
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I once was installing a Japanese watchband where the instructions stated, and I quote: "Be careful installing the springs, as they may disappear"
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I usually call my wife in as a last resort. ?She is uncanny! ?Last week I lost the jaws of my milling attachment for my 618. ?I spent four days looking and finally called in my wife who informed me that she had seen them on the bench and put them in the scrap metal bin! ?I quit making The new set immediately!
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On Apr 22, 2020, at 7:26 AM, Russ Kepler < russ@...> wrote:
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:34:21 AM MDT you wrote: I've very seldom had #1 or 2 work, so I usually default to #3. That will
often work even if the floor is in really bad shape. As mine often is.
Brighter flashlight does really help. Something that throws a distinct
beam. Or maybe that's just my eyes. The flashlight trick only works if the workshop has a reasonably clean flat floor. I have a friend whose shop floor is rough concrete bad enough tjat I can actually stub a toe there. Drop anything smaller than a 1" 1/4-20 bolt and it's gone forever.
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You’ll never find them. ? It’s known that a wire wheel launches items into an alternate universe. ? Wayne ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of perry7122 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 12:08 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects ? Any suggestions for finding small parts thrown by the wire wheel on the grinder. Still can't find the bolt from my wifes unicycle. Sent from my Boost Mobile Phone. -------- Original message -------- Date: 4/21/20 11:29 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects ??? ??? walk around barefooted ??? ??? animal On 4/21/2020 8:17 PM, kaje7777 wrote: Bruce - Those are good tips. I've used that flashlight trick before; sometimes it even works from a standing position if you use a flashlight with a concentrated beam - it acts like a spotlight tofocus your attention and highlight small objects.
Here's two more tips:
1. Take an object identical to the dropped object and place it on the floor. For example,if you dropped a screw, place an identical screw on the floor. This tells you what the dropped object is going to look like when you search for it and helps you do mental "pattern matching."
2. Go ahead and sweep the floor! The collect all of the sweepings in a dustpan and look for your dropped item. You get a swept floor as a bonus, and maybe find a couple other things you dropped a while back. Sometimes if I drop a common object like a nut or screw, if I don't spot it immediately I don't even bother to look for it. I just grab another one from the part drawer, knowing I'll find it on the next sweep-up.
One last trick: Dropped objects always seem to bounce under the workbench. I installed "kickboards" on the bottom front of my workbenches to keep that from happening (make them easy to remove, because somehow stuff seems to get under there anyway!).
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That would be interesting, if not too difficult to find the parts to
build.? I know some projects call for things that are no longer
available.
Bruce
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Well NOW THAT YOU MENTION
IT, I have a book from the now-defunct Lindsay Press that
describes an electromagnet that will pick up non-ferrous
(non-ferromagnetic) metals.? Unfortunately, I've never got far
enough into it to actually attempt to build one.? IIRC, it may
require high-frequency AC power.
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Well NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, I have a book from the now-defunct Lindsay Press that describes an electromagnet that will pick up non-ferrous (non-ferromagnetic) metals.? Unfortunately, I've never got far enough into it to actually attempt to build one.? IIRC, it may require high-frequency AC power.
Yeah, but I have problems sourcing magnets that will pick up aluminum or brass. ? Problem in my shop is I put in an epoxy floor, with the large dark flakes in it. Great camouflage for anything small. If I had that to do over, no flakes…. ? One thing that does work is a strainer of some type (cheese cloth, panty hose, etc.) over the end of a shop vac tube. The vac will lift it off the floor, but it won’t go into the collector. ? Wayne ? ? Bare feet..... or a powerful magnet. Whit? ? Lost item, I used to ask my wife to look, she could spot things I never could find. ? On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:34 AM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers=[email protected]> wrote: I've very seldom had #1 or 2 work, so I usually default to #3. That will often work even if the floor is in really bad shape. As mine often is. Brighter flashlight does really help. Something that throws a distinct beam. Or maybe that's just my eyes.
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 09:00:31 PM CDT, Bruce Freeman <freemab222@...> wrote: I discovered a few trick years ago that has repeatedly helped me find? dropped objects. - Watch it fall, if possible.? Things often bounce oddly and if you keep your eye on it, you might see where it bounces.
- Failing No. 1, if it's something not too dear and you have more of the same, drop another and watch where that one goes.? It's amazing how often identical items bounce the same direction.
- When neither No. 1 nor No. 2 apply, dim the lights, get down on the floor, and shine a flashlight at floor level in various directions.? Small thing will thus cast large shadows.? Often works well.? Really shows you how much you needed to sweep the shop...
? ? On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:35 PM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote: ?I lost my set screw on the threaded collar at the back of the lathe spindle.? I saw it fall and cant find it anywhere ? ?
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I think the most interesting thing in the email is "my wife's unicycle".
I haven't seen many wives with unicycle.?? -Jody
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S10+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Whitney Philbrick via groups.io" <WhitPUSMC@...> Date: 4/22/20 12:39 PM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects
In this case I wouldn’t recommend adding more similar parts and watching where they go.... kinda dangerous.... On Apr 22, 2020, at 12:08 PM, perry7122 <perry7122@...> wrote:
? Any suggestions for finding small parts thrown by the wire wheel on the grinder. Still can't find the bolt from my wifes unicycle.
Sent from my Boost Mobile Phone.
-------- Original message -------- From: mike allen <animal@...> Date: 4/21/20 11:29 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects
??? ??? walk around barefooted
??? ??? animal
On 4/21/2020 8:17 PM, kaje7777 wrote:
Bruce - Those are good tips. I've used that flashlight trick
before; sometimes it even works from a standing position if you
use a flashlight with a concentrated beam - it acts like a
spotlight tofocus your attention and highlight small objects.
Here's two more tips:
1. Take an object identical to the dropped object and place it on
the floor. For example,if you dropped a screw, place an identical
screw on the floor. This tells you what the dropped object is
going to look like when you search for it and helps you do mental
"pattern matching."
2. Go ahead and sweep the floor! The collect all of the sweepings
in a dustpan and look for your dropped item. You get a swept floor
as a bonus, and maybe find a couple other things you dropped a
while back. Sometimes if I drop a common object like a nut or
screw, if I don't spot it immediately I don't even bother to look
for it. I just grab another one from the part drawer, knowing I'll
find it on the next sweep-up.
One last trick: Dropped objects always seem to
bounce under
the workbench. I installed "kickboards" on the bottom front of my
workbenches to keep that from happening (make them easy to remove,
because somehow stuff seems to get under there anyway!).
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In this case I wouldn’t recommend adding more similar parts and watching where they go.... kinda dangerous....
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On Apr 22, 2020, at 12:08 PM, perry7122 <perry7122@...> wrote:
? Any suggestions for finding small parts thrown by the wire wheel on the grinder. Still can't find the bolt from my wifes unicycle.
Sent from my Boost Mobile Phone.
-------- Original message -------- From: mike allen <animal@...> Date: 4/21/20 11:29 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects
??? ??? walk around barefooted
??? ??? animal
On 4/21/2020 8:17 PM, kaje7777 wrote:
Bruce - Those are good tips. I've used that flashlight trick
before; sometimes it even works from a standing position if you
use a flashlight with a concentrated beam - it acts like a
spotlight tofocus your attention and highlight small objects.
Here's two more tips:
1. Take an object identical to the dropped object and place it on
the floor. For example,if you dropped a screw, place an identical
screw on the floor. This tells you what the dropped object is
going to look like when you search for it and helps you do mental
"pattern matching."
2. Go ahead and sweep the floor! The collect all of the sweepings
in a dustpan and look for your dropped item. You get a swept floor
as a bonus, and maybe find a couple other things you dropped a
while back. Sometimes if I drop a common object like a nut or
screw, if I don't spot it immediately I don't even bother to look
for it. I just grab another one from the part drawer, knowing I'll
find it on the next sweep-up.
One last trick: Dropped objects always seem to
bounce under
the workbench. I installed "kickboards" on the bottom front of my
workbenches to keep that from happening (make them easy to remove,
because somehow stuff seems to get under there anyway!).
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Got a little kid handy? They can usually spot 1 fly turd in a bowl of pepper.?
Dave?
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Bare feet..... or a powerful magnet.
Whit? On Apr 22, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
? Lost item, I used to ask my wife to look, she could spot things I never could find. On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:34 AM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers= [email protected]> wrote: I've very seldom had #1 or 2 work, so I usually default to #3. That will often work even if the floor is in really bad shape. As mine often is. Brighter flashlight does really help. Something that throws a distinct beam. Or maybe that's just my eyes.
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 09:00:31 PM CDT, Bruce Freeman < freemab222@...> wrote:
I discovered a few trick years ago that has repeatedly helped me find? dropped objects.
- Watch it fall, if possible.? Things often bounce oddly and if you keep your eye on it, you might see where it bounces.
- Failing No. 1, if it's something not too dear and you have more of the same, drop another and watch where that one goes.? It's amazing how often identical items bounce the same direction.
- When neither No. 1 nor No. 2 apply, dim the lights, get down on the floor, and shine a flashlight at floor level in various directions.? Small thing will thus cast large shadows.? Often works well.? Really shows you how much you needed to sweep the shop...
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:35 PM Jody < jp4lsu@...> wrote: ?I lost my set screw on the threaded collar at the back of the lathe spindle.? I saw it fall and cant find it anywhere. -Jody
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Any suggestions for finding small parts thrown by the wire wheel on the grinder. Still can't find the bolt from my wifes unicycle.
Sent from my Boost Mobile Phone.
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-------- Original message -------- From: mike allen <animal@...> Date: 4/21/20 11:29 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Finding small objects
??? ??? walk around barefooted
??? ??? animal
On 4/21/2020 8:17 PM, kaje7777 wrote:
Bruce - Those are good tips. I've used that flashlight trick
before; sometimes it even works from a standing position if you
use a flashlight with a concentrated beam - it acts like a
spotlight tofocus your attention and highlight small objects.
Here's two more tips:
1. Take an object identical to the dropped object and place it on
the floor. For example,if you dropped a screw, place an identical
screw on the floor. This tells you what the dropped object is
going to look like when you search for it and helps you do mental
"pattern matching."
2. Go ahead and sweep the floor! The collect all of the sweepings
in a dustpan and look for your dropped item. You get a swept floor
as a bonus, and maybe find a couple other things you dropped a
while back. Sometimes if I drop a common object like a nut or
screw, if I don't spot it immediately I don't even bother to look
for it. I just grab another one from the part drawer, knowing I'll
find it on the next sweep-up.
One last trick: Dropped objects always seem to
bounce under
the workbench. I installed "kickboards" on the bottom front of my
workbenches to keep that from happening (make them easy to remove,
because somehow stuff seems to get under there anyway!).
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Simple, only drop ferrous metal objects.....?
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On Apr 22, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Wayne Kube via groups.io <w.kube@...> wrote:
? Yeah, but I have problems sourcing magnets that will pick up aluminum or brass. ? Problem in my shop is I put in an epoxy floor, with the large dark flakes in it. Great camouflage for anything small. If I had that to do over, no flakes…. ? One thing that does work is a strainer of some type (cheese cloth, panty hose, etc.) over the end of a shop vac tube. The vac will lift it off the floor, but it won’t go into the collector. ? Wayne ? ? Bare feet..... or a powerful magnet. Whit? ? Lost item, I used to ask my wife to look, she could spot things I never could find. ? On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:34 AM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers=[email protected]> wrote: I've very seldom had #1 or 2 work, so I usually default to #3. That will often work even if the floor is in really bad shape. As mine often is. Brighter flashlight does really help. Something that throws a distinct beam. Or maybe that's just my eyes.
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 09:00:31 PM CDT, Bruce Freeman <freemab222@...> wrote: I discovered a few trick years ago that has repeatedly helped me find? dropped objects. - Watch it fall, if possible.? Things often bounce oddly and if you keep your eye on it, you might see where it bounces.
- Failing No. 1, if it's something not too dear and you have more of the same, drop another and watch where that one goes.? It's amazing how often identical items bounce the same direction.
- When neither No. 1 nor No. 2 apply, dim the lights, get down on the floor, and shine a flashlight at floor level in various directions.? Small thing will thus cast large shadows.? Often works well.? Really shows you how much you needed to sweep the shop...
? ? On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:35 PM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote: ?I lost my set screw on the threaded collar at the back of the lathe spindle.? I saw it fall and cant find it anywhere ? ?
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Brian Cayer
Bill in OKC too