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Re: Feed rate increase and crazy thread milling, just for fun
开云体育Did you see the red marks on one of the sprockets? For a 8 start internal thread with specific start and end orientation. More thread milling! Used to do all that in the lathe, that's a whole different story. Especially when you add ovality to compensate for shrinkage. Dave On January 12, 2019 at 4:24 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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Re: Feed rate increase and crazy thread milling, just for fun
开云体育Probably not, this is caveman technology! I do like it though. Maybe here's a pic or 2 of the application. Dave Matticks On January 12, 2019 at 4:24 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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Re: Feed rate increase and crazy thread milling, just for fun
开云体育??? ??? shouldn't you be out making parts for the space shuttle
or something? On 1/12/2019 2:06 PM, Guenther Paul
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Re: Feed rate increase and crazy thread milling, just for fun
开云体育I know it's not Craftsman or Atlas but a little food for thought. You can really do a lot with a little if necessary. Note the gear motor coupled to the drive motor and chain drive with compound sprockets along with the milling attachment.? A big CNC lathe with live tooling would have eaten this right up but... I only needed 2 each. Dave On January 12, 2019 at 3:49 PM Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> wrote: |
Re: Feed rate increase and crazy thread milling, just for fun
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The pictures explain the prosses GP -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 1/12/19, Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Feed rate increase and crazy thread milling, just for fun To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, January 12, 2019, 5:00 PM I would be interested in hearing more about what you did, and how you went about doing it. I? hope some day to be skilled enough to make a rifling machine, and it looks like what you've done here could be helpful to know. Bill in OKC On Saturday, January 12, 2019, 3:55:28 PM CST, Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> wrote: Hope I can find the pics of part of my never ending project from a few years ago. Needed to cut 1" pitch on a 4" diameter part 24" long. Here's the kicker, 2" root diameter. Don't remember the angle or radius at the root but you get a sense of the process. Single point was NG, milling was the only option. 2 pcs. 303 SS and 2 pcs. Delrin. 1 each left hand and right hand. Not regular screw threads. Feed screws for pleated filter media to glue the ribbons on. I love a little challenge once in awhile. Dave |
Re: Feed rate increase and crazy thread milling, just for fun
I would be interested in hearing more about what you did, and how you went about doing it. I? hope some day to be skilled enough to make a rifling machine, and it looks like what you've done here could be helpful to know. Bill in OKC
On Saturday, January 12, 2019, 3:55:28 PM CST, Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> wrote:
Hope I can find the pics of part of my never ending project from a few years ago. Needed to cut 1" pitch on a 4" diameter part 24" long. Here's the kicker, 2" root diameter. Don't remember the angle or radius at the root but you get a sense of the process. Single point was NG, milling was the only option. 2 pcs. 303 SS and 2 pcs. Delrin. 1 each left hand and right hand. Not regular screw threads. Feed screws for pleated filter media to glue the ribbons on. I love a little challenge once in awhile. Dave |
Feed rate increase and crazy thread milling, just for fun
Hope I can find the pics of part of my never ending project from a few years ago.
Needed to cut 1" pitch on a 4" diameter part 24" long. Here's the kicker, 2" root diameter. Don't remember the angle or radius at the root but you get a sense of the process. Single point was NG, milling was the only option. 2 pcs. 303 SS and 2 pcs. Delrin. 1 each left hand and right hand. Not regular screw threads. Feed screws for pleated filter media to glue the ribbons on. I love a little challenge once in awhile. Dave |
Re: 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe?
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From: Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Date: 1/11/19 8:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe?
Does the turret mount in the tail stock quill GP -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 1/11/19, ksierens <ksierens@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, January 11, 2019, 7:53 PM #yiv4637689772 #yiv4637689772 -- p {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} #yiv4637689772 Thanks, there is a 10" turret tail stock there, just wondered if it would work on my 12" as is. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Andrei <calciu1@...> Date: 1/11/19 6:46 PM (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? It will not be vertically aligned with the spindle center. You might be able to machine something to add to the base and raise it up, or just buy the right tailstock. Lots of them come up on eBay. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ksierens <ksierens@...> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 6:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? ? Will a 10" Atlas / Craftsman tailstock fit on a 12" tailstock base? Is the only difference the thickness of the base? |
Re: 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe?
开云体育Interesting! Never saw or looked for one. I have an old Enco tailstock turret with a mt2 shank, goes in the tailstock quill.? Never going to use it but it's here. Dave? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device 开云体育-------- Original message -------- From: "Robert Downs via Groups.Io" <wa5cab@...> Date: 1/11/19 19:59 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? Atlas made three types of tailstocks for the 10” and 12” lathes.? The standard tailstocks (the ones that came with the lathes) are not interchangeable.? The 12” ones (early and late) are 1.000” taller than the 10” one.? But the 10” and early 12” ones use the same 10D-6 Base.? ? The other two types are the lever action tailstock and the tailstock turret.? The same one was used on both 10” and early and late 12”.? When installed on a 10” lathe, the base used is the same 10D-6 used under the standard tailstock.? When sold to go onto a 12”, the base used was the L6-6A, which is similar to the 10D-6 but is 2.000” tall where the 10D-6 is 1.000”.? I have the factory drawing on the latter one, although it doesn’t appear that I ever put it into Files.? Let me know if anyone needs it. ? I have had a search running on eBay for at least 5 years without ever turning one up.? I do have one of them that I found on a turret.? ? Anyway, the short answer to your question is “no” as previously stated.? The tailstock is correct but you will need a taller base, or a 1.000” riser block.? However, “Lots of them” do NOT come up on eBay. ? Robert Downs ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ksierens ? Thanks, there is a 10" turret tail stock there, just wondered if it would work on my 12" as is. ? ? ? Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ? ? -------- Original message -------- From: Andrei <calciu1@...> Date: 1/11/19 6:46 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? ? It will not be vertically aligned with the spindle center. You might be able to machine something to add to the base and raise it up, or just buy the right tailstock. Lots of them come up on eBay. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ksierens <ksierens@msncom> ? Will a 10" Atlas / Craftsman tailstock fit on a 12" tailstock base? Is the only difference the thickness of the base? |
Re: 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe?
开云体育No.? The tailstock turret referred to is a stand-alone unit.? It is lever operated and has six adjustable stops.? Also, it takes 3/4” tooling.? The one that has a 2MT arbor and can fit into the tailstock quill ?takes 5/8” tooling.? ? Robert Downs ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Guenther Paul
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 19:09 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? ? Does the turret mount in the tail stock quill |
Re: 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe?
开云体育Atlas made three types of tailstocks for the 10” and 12” lathes.? The standard tailstocks (the ones that came with the lathes) are not interchangeable.? The 12” ones (early and late) are 1.000” taller than the 10” one.? But the 10” and early 12” ones use the same 10D-6 Base.? ? The other two types are the lever action tailstock and the tailstock turret.? The same one was used on both 10” and early and late 12”.? When installed on a 10” lathe, the base used is the same 10D-6 used under the standard tailstock.? When sold to go onto a 12”, the base used was the L6-6A, which is similar to the 10D-6 but is 2.000” tall where the 10D-6 is 1.000”.? I have the factory drawing on the latter one, although it doesn’t appear that I ever put it into Files.? Let me know if anyone needs it. ? I have had a search running on eBay for at least 5 years without ever turning one up.? I do have one of them that I found on a turret.? ? Anyway, the short answer to your question is “no” as previously stated.? The tailstock is correct but you will need a taller base, or a 1.000” riser block.? However, “Lots of them” do NOT come up on eBay. ? Robert Downs ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ksierens
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 18:53 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? ? Thanks, there is a 10" turret tail stock there, just wondered if it would work on my 12" as is. ? ? ? Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ? ? -------- Original message -------- From: Andrei <calciu1@...> Date: 1/11/19 6:46 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? ? It will not be vertically aligned with the spindle center. You might be able to machine something to add to the base and raise it up, or just buy the right tailstock. Lots of them come up on eBay. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ksierens <ksierens@msncom> ? Will a 10" Atlas / Craftsman tailstock fit on a 12" tailstock base? Is the only difference the thickness of the base? |
Re: 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe?
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Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, January 11, 2019, 7:53 PM #yiv4637689772 #yiv4637689772 -- p {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} #yiv4637689772 Thanks, there is a 10" turret tail stock there, just wondered if it would work on my 12" as is. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Andrei <calciu1@...> Date: 1/11/19 6:46 PM (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? It will not be vertically aligned with the spindle center. You might be able to machine something to add to the base and raise it up, or just buy the right tailstock. Lots of them come up on eBay. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ksierens <ksierens@...> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 6:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? ? Will a 10" Atlas / Craftsman tailstock fit on a 12" tailstock base? Is the only difference the thickness of the base? |
Re: 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe?
开云体育Thanks, there is a 10" turret tail stock there, just wondered if it would work on my 12" as is.
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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From: Andrei <calciu1@...>
Date: 1/11/19 6:46 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe?
It will not be vertically aligned with the spindle center. You might be able to machine something to add to the base and raise it up, or just buy the right tailstock. Lots of them come up on eBay.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ksierens <ksierens@...>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 6:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? ?
Will a 10" Atlas / Craftsman tailstock fit on a 12" tailstock base? Is the only difference the thickness of the base?
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Re: 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe?
开云体育
It will not be vertically aligned with the spindle center. You might be able to machine something to add to the base and raise it up, or just buy the right tailstock. Lots of them come up on eBay.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ksierens <ksierens@...>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 6:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] 10" tailstock on a 12" Craftsman lathe? ?
Will a 10" Atlas / Craftsman tailstock fit on a 12" tailstock base? Is the only difference the thickness of the base?
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Re: Make a Fire Piston
开云体育So many good things came frome these thermodynamic principles.? Internal combustion engines, refrigeration, air conditioning, steam turbines for power.Science is fun -Jody -------- Original message --------
From: "Pete McLaughlin via Groups.Io" <pete_mclaughlin_93555@...> Date: 1/11/19 11:32 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Make a Fire Piston Hi Bruce You make a good point that a low heat conductive piston might be better. Here is a video of a copper tube and wood piston type fire piston. I think the coolest fire piston is clear acrylic where you can see the air glow as the piston reaches the bottom of the stroke. This makes it clear that:?Gay-Lussac's?law, Amontons'?law?or the?pressure law?was found by Joseph Louis Gay-Lussac in 1809: means raising pressure raises temperature.? Also this is how diesel engines work and do not need a spark to ignite the oil air mix. Science is fun Pete McLaughlin
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Re: Make a Fire Piston
Pete McLaughlin
开云体育Hi BruceYou make a good point that a low heat conductive piston might be better. Here is a video of a copper tube and wood piston type fire piston. I think the coolest fire piston is clear acrylic where you can see the air glow as the piston reaches the bottom of the stroke. This makes it clear that:?Gay-Lussac's?law, Amontons'?law?or the?pressure law?was found by Joseph Louis Gay-Lussac in 1809: means raising pressure raises temperature.? Also this is how diesel engines work and do not need a spark to ignite the oil air mix. Science is fun Pete McLaughlin On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:45 AM, Bruce Freeman <freemab222@...> wrote:
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Re: Make a Fire Piston
Neat. Aluminum is highly heat-conductive.? Steel might have been a better choice.? It's denser, but a thinner wall could be used, so it might come out in the wash. What's really impressive is when someone makes one of these out of natural materials.? I don't have a video, but I recall reading about it somewhere. Bruce NJ On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 7:28 AM Pete McLaughlin via Groups.Io <pete_mclaughlin_93555=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Off Topic Question for the old-timers
I searched "spherical bronze bushing" under Google Images and got a lot of hits.? I didn't follow up on them. Bruce NJ On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 4:04 PM rockindubya via Groups.Io <jeffwoods95=[email protected]> wrote: Apologies up front for OT, but you guys know more than anyone I've spoken to on the phone today. |
Re: Internal Threading - Compound Setup
开云体育Maybe not applicable in this case , but what most machinists I have worked would do is to cut the thread with a single point tool up to 90% or so , and then finish it with the relevant tap or die (often split) which takes care of the flank , root and crest shape issue . . . . ? Carvel ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles ? A full profile insert makes the entire thread, flank, root and crest.? Because the root and crest width varies by pitch, they are only good for a limited number of threads.? A partial profile essentially only cuts the flank and root, but you have to finish the crest.? A pass with a file will do it generally, depending on how picky the thread is.? A tool with an 8-48 tpi range is not going to have the proper root width across that whole range, it is only going to be right for the top end of that range (48).? ?From watching youtube, only a limited number of the "machinists"? there bother with root or crest shape, using a sharp v tool for everything.? Whitworth and some other threads have a radius at root and crest.?? ? Charles ? On Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:14:54 PM CST, Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote: ? ? In looking for an internal threading boring bar I came across this set on Shars.
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