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Re: I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck

 

I agree Andrei, 3 jaw is standard equipment.? This was my grandfathers lathe and he bought it from his brother who was an electrician and did a lot of conduit and maybe some work on boxes with it as well.? So maybe the 4 jaw met his needs better.? Maybe the 3 jaw went missing at some point as well.
-Jody


On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:23 PM Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
You can probably live with a cheaper 3-jaw for a while, if the compressor is a priority. But it is odd that you did not have a 3 jaw. That is the workhorse of a lathe and the 4-jaw comes always later.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:52:42 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck
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Thanks Andrei,
I've come across some of them and yes a bit pricey.? Especially as I'm about to pony up for a new air compressor.? Maybe I can manage my frustration a bit longer to find a deal.? I was making spider for the lathe and thought it would be a good project for some experience and it became very frustrating and time consuming taking the work out of the chuck to test fit threads, flip around to bore ID on one end and clean up OD after work was completed.?
Not to mention I don't have a QCGB so that added to time and frustration as well when switching back and forth boring, threading, boring & cutting.
-Jody

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 1:46 PM Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Jody, Buck chucks are adjustable for runout and are cool. A bit pricier but worth it

Typos are courtesy of autocorrect.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:44:42 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck
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Hey guys,
I have a 12" (101.07403) I've reached a level of frustration having on a 4 jaw chuck and am ready to get a 3 jaw.? I don't mind setting up the work in a 4 jaw but removing the work to check something and then having to re-chuck it is getting tiresome.

There are a few on ebay currently of different brands with the 1 1/2- 8 threads.? (Atlas, Cushman, etc)

Should I try one of the older used chucks or try a new Shars or something similar or stick with an old one?? I would like to find an Atlas 6" diam chuck but they aren't cheap.? Am I rolling the dice either direction with accuracy?
Thanks for the input and advice.
-Jody


Re: I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck

 

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You can probably live with a cheaper 3-jaw for a while, if the compressor is a priority. But it is odd that you did not have a 3 jaw. That is the workhorse of a lathe and the 4-jaw comes always later.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:52:42 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck
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Thanks Andrei,
I've come across some of them and yes a bit pricey.? Especially as I'm about to pony up for a new air compressor.? Maybe I can manage my frustration a bit longer to find a deal.? I was making spider for the lathe and thought it would be a good project for some experience and it became very frustrating and time consuming taking the work out of the chuck to test fit threads, flip around to bore ID on one end and clean up OD after work was completed.?
Not to mention I don't have a QCGB so that added to time and frustration as well when switching back and forth boring, threading, boring & cutting.
-Jody

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 1:46 PM Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Jody, Buck chucks are adjustable for runout and are cool. A bit pricier but worth it

Typos are courtesy of autocorrect.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:44:42 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck
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Hey guys,
I have a 12" (101.07403) I've reached a level of frustration having on a 4 jaw chuck and am ready to get a 3 jaw.? I don't mind setting up the work in a 4 jaw but removing the work to check something and then having to re-chuck it is getting tiresome.

There are a few on ebay currently of different brands with the 1 1/2- 8 threads.? (Atlas, Cushman, etc)

Should I try one of the older used chucks or try a new Shars or something similar or stick with an old one?? I would like to find an Atlas 6" diam chuck but they aren't cheap.? Am I rolling the dice either direction with accuracy?
Thanks for the input and advice.
-Jody


Re: I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck

 

Thanks Andrei,
I've come across some of them and yes a bit pricey.? Especially as I'm about to pony up for a new air compressor.? Maybe I can manage my frustration a bit longer to find a deal.? I was making spider for the lathe and thought it would be a good project for some experience and it became very frustrating and time consuming taking the work out of the chuck to test fit threads, flip around to bore ID on one end and clean up OD after work was completed.?
Not to mention I don't have a QCGB so that added to time and frustration as well when switching back and forth boring, threading, boring & cutting.
-Jody


On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 1:46 PM Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Jody, Buck chucks are adjustable for runout and are cool. A bit pricier but worth it

Typos are courtesy of autocorrect.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:44:42 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck
?
Hey guys,
I have a 12" (101.07403) I've reached a level of frustration having on a 4 jaw chuck and am ready to get a 3 jaw.? I don't mind setting up the work in a 4 jaw but removing the work to check something and then having to re-chuck it is getting tiresome.

There are a few on ebay currently of different brands with the 1 1/2- 8 threads.? (Atlas, Cushman, etc)

Should I try one of the older used chucks or try a new Shars or something similar or stick with an old one?? I would like to find an Atlas 6" diam chuck but they aren't cheap.? Am I rolling the dice either direction with accuracy?
Thanks for the input and advice.
-Jody


Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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It will give a really hard abrasion resistant case but still soft and "deformable" under that .001/.002 surface hardness. Done this before as well.
Water quench will probably give a higher hardness, still not deep though.
Very nice project no matter what!

Dave

On April 18, 2020 at 12:38 PM exerpd+groupsio@... wrote:

Dave Matticks – I was not able to find a left hand wing nut.? I used Fusion 360 to do the drawings.? Instead I purchased a hand full of right hand wing nuts from McMaster-Karr in the next smaller size.? Then just drilled it out and re-threaded in left hand 3/8”.? The body and jaws are 1018 steel.? I have done some case hardening of small gun parts.? Don’t know whether to case harden just the jaw faces or the whole thing?? It is just a hand vise after all.? May just use some Brownell’s and try the jaws first to see how I like it.? Heat jaw face to cherry red, dip in the case hardening, re-heat to cherry red for a couple of minutes, quench in oil, clean up…………? See what happens.

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Bruce Varner

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Re: I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck

 

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Jody, Buck chucks are adjustable for runout and are cool. A bit pricier but worth it

Typos are courtesy of autocorrect.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:44:42 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck
?
Hey guys,
I have a 12" (101.07403) I've reached a level of frustration having on a 4 jaw chuck and am ready to get a 3 jaw.? I don't mind setting up the work in a 4 jaw but removing the work to check something and then having to re-chuck it is getting tiresome.

There are a few on ebay currently of different brands with the 1 1/2- 8 threads.? (Atlas, Cushman, etc)

Should I try one of the older used chucks or try a new Shars or something similar or stick with an old one?? I would like to find an Atlas 6" diam chuck but they aren't cheap.? Am I rolling the dice either direction with accuracy?
Thanks for the input and advice.
-Jody


I Need a 3 Jaw Chuck

 

Hey guys,
I have a 12" (101.07403) I've reached a level of frustration having on a 4 jaw chuck and am ready to get a 3 jaw.? I don't mind setting up the work in a 4 jaw but removing the work to check something and then having to re-chuck it is getting tiresome.

There are a few on ebay currently of different brands with the 1 1/2- 8 threads.? (Atlas, Cushman, etc)

Should I try one of the older used chucks or try a new Shars or something similar or stick with an old one?? I would like to find an Atlas 6" diam chuck but they aren't cheap.? Am I rolling the dice either direction with accuracy?
Thanks for the input and advice.
-Jody


Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-ReducingAttachment

 

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??????????????????????????????? FWIW you might try to find some old school Kasenite as the current offering is not as effective IMO. But there might well be someone close by that still has a half full can. I am hoarding mine but am susceptible to a polite request!????????????????? Bill in Boulder CO USA

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From: exerpd+groupsio@...
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-ReducingAttachment

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Dave Matticks – May just use some Brownell’s and try the jaws first to see how I like it.? Heat jaw face to cherry red, dip in the case hardening, re-heat to cherry red for a couple of minutes, quench in oil, clean up…………? See what happens.

--
Bruce Varner

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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

Nice job on the mini-pulley Dave. ?The tool looks basically like a parting tool to me.

if you put a rachet mechanism on it you use i5 to limit the tug on the TP to some number of squares.?


Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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If it's low carbon like 1018ish it won't respond. All that'll happen is it'll get hot until you quench, then it'll be cool.
Only difference will be color.

Dave?



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-------- Original message --------
From: Andrei <calciu1@...>
Date: 4/18/20 12:15 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

Bruce, it is a hand vise. Harden it with the torch and oil or water, depending on your steel.

I would harden the whole part, not just the jaw, because it is small enough.

Typos are courtesy of autocorrect.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Matticks <dpm100@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:53:20 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
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Bruce,
Awesome job on the hand vise!
Where the heck did you find a left hand thread wing nut to pin onto the screw?
Doesn't matter, I like it right down to the handle!
Regarding heat treating: what did you make the jaws out of??
Low carbon? Only option is case hardening.
Anything you might do at home with a torch is likely to give only a very shallow depth. Might call a commercial heat treating place near you to inquire about carburizing.
Explain your situation, they "might" give you a deal.

Dave
On April 17, 2020 at 12:29 PM exerpd+groupsio@... wrote:

The Miller Falls knock-off is not completely done.? I now need to learn how to small part heat treat, so I can harden the area of the jaws..........................
--
Bruce Varner

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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

Dave Matticks – I was not able to find a left hand wing nut.? I used Fusion 360 to do the drawings.? Instead I purchased a hand full of right hand wing nuts from McMaster-Karr in the next smaller size.? Then just drilled it out and re-threaded in left hand 3/8”.? The body and jaws are 1018 steel.? I have done some case hardening of small gun parts.? Don’t know whether to case harden just the jaw faces or the whole thing?? It is just a hand vise after all.? May just use some Brownell’s and try the jaws first to see how I like it.? Heat jaw face to cherry red, dip in the case hardening, re-heat to cherry red for a couple of minutes, quench in oil, clean up…………? See what happens.

--
Bruce Varner


Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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Angle set by compound, toolbit is nothing more than a parting/grooving tool.
Nothing special but it works.
For a one off even on a bigger machine I'd still do it the same way, easier than making a couple form tools! Nice finish comes free.

Dave

On April 18, 2020 at 9:58 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

Good job Dave.? I have been watching this topic periodically.? What did you use to the angle?
-Jody



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-------- Original message --------
From: Dave Matticks <dpm100@...>
Date: 4/18/20 9:20 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

Just for my own entertainment this morning and also maybe help someone out a little!
Aside from the turning and facing part, done with one tool.
Dimensions are just arbitrary, plug in the real ones.?
Sample is concept only but it is kind of cute.
Couple pics.?
One big key to success here is know where the machine is!

Dave?



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

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Re: Craftsman 101.07301 with a 383.22970 chuck

 

A spanner is better for the chuck holes look as they are beginning to wallow out now. A spanner will not wallow the holes and is easy to make.


Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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Bruce, it is a hand vise. Harden it with the torch and oil or water, depending on your steel.

I would harden the whole part, not just the jaw, because it is small enough.

Typos are courtesy of autocorrect.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Matticks <dpm100@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:53:20 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
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Bruce,
Awesome job on the hand vise!
Where the heck did you find a left hand thread wing nut to pin onto the screw?
Doesn't matter, I like it right down to the handle!
Regarding heat treating: what did you make the jaws out of??
Low carbon? Only option is case hardening.
Anything you might do at home with a torch is likely to give only a very shallow depth. Might call a commercial heat treating place near you to inquire about carburizing.
Explain your situation, they "might" give you a deal.

Dave
On April 17, 2020 at 12:29 PM exerpd+groupsio@... wrote:

The Miller Falls knock-off is not completely done.? I now need to learn how to small part heat treat, so I can harden the area of the jaws..........................
--
Bruce Varner

?


Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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Your kid is wise, Animal. But there is TP at the store. Found it at Safeway yesterday. Limit 1 pack per purchase. No need to panic.

Typos are courtesy of autocorrect.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of mike allen <animal@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:07:40 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
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??? ??? my kid says the way to save TP is to just shower right after ya use the can

??? ??? animal

On 4/18/2020 10:04 AM, Dave Matticks wrote:
I was thinking about a smaller one as a little paperweight for postage stamps, hardly use 'em anymore though.
This one's more suited to my ration of 3 squares of TP a day.
Maybe tomorrow I'l make a tiny one for fun!

Dave
On April 18, 2020 at 11:29 AM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

??? ??? looks sharp Dave , now ya have a backup pull start for yer phone for when the drive dies

??? ??? animal

On 4/18/2020 7:19 AM, Dave Matticks wrote:
Just for my own entertainment this morning and also maybe help someone out a little!
Aside from the turning and facing part, done with one tool.
Dimensions are just arbitrary, plug in the real ones.?
Sample is concept only but it is kind of cute.
Couple pics.?
One big key to success here is know where the machine is!

Dave?



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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??? ??? my kid says the way to save TP is to just shower right after ya use the can

??? ??? animal

On 4/18/2020 10:04 AM, Dave Matticks wrote:

I was thinking about a smaller one as a little paperweight for postage stamps, hardly use 'em anymore though.
This one's more suited to my ration of 3 squares of TP a day.
Maybe tomorrow I'l make a tiny one for fun!

Dave
On April 18, 2020 at 11:29 AM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

??? ??? looks sharp Dave , now ya have a backup pull start for yer phone for when the drive dies

??? ??? animal

On 4/18/2020 7:19 AM, Dave Matticks wrote:
Just for my own entertainment this morning and also maybe help someone out a little!
Aside from the turning and facing part, done with one tool.
Dimensions are just arbitrary, plug in the real ones.?
Sample is concept only but it is kind of cute.
Couple pics.?
One big key to success here is know where the machine is!

Dave?



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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I was thinking about a smaller one as a little paperweight for postage stamps, hardly use 'em anymore though.
This one's more suited to my ration of 3 squares of TP a day.
Maybe tomorrow I'l make a tiny one for fun!

Dave

On April 18, 2020 at 11:29 AM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

??? ??? looks sharp Dave , now ya have a backup pull start for yer phone for when the drive dies

??? ??? animal

On 4/18/2020 7:19 AM, Dave Matticks wrote:
Just for my own entertainment this morning and also maybe help someone out a little!
Aside from the turning and facing part, done with one tool.
Dimensions are just arbitrary, plug in the real ones.?
Sample is concept only but it is kind of cute.
Couple pics.?
One big key to success here is know where the machine is!

Dave?



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

?


Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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Bruce,
Awesome job on the hand vise!
Where the heck did you find a left hand thread wing nut to pin onto the screw?
Doesn't matter, I like it right down to the handle!
Regarding heat treating: what did you make the jaws out of??
Low carbon? Only option is case hardening.
Anything you might do at home with a torch is likely to give only a very shallow depth. Might call a commercial heat treating place near you to inquire about carburizing.
Explain your situation, they "might" give you a deal.

Dave

On April 17, 2020 at 12:29 PM exerpd+groupsio@... wrote:

The Miller Falls knock-off is not completely done.? I now need to learn how to small part heat treat, so I can harden the area of the jaws..........................
--
Bruce Varner

?


Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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??? ??? looks sharp Dave , now ya have a backup pull start for yer phone for when the drive dies

??? ??? animal

On 4/18/2020 7:19 AM, Dave Matticks wrote:

Just for my own entertainment this morning and also maybe help someone out a little!
Aside from the turning and facing part, done with one tool.
Dimensions are just arbitrary, plug in the real ones.?
Sample is concept only but it is kind of cute.
Couple pics.?
One big key to success here is know where the machine is!

Dave?



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device


Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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??? ? don't remember what pulley yer makin , but don't forget material for a arbor if ya plan to use one .

??? ??? animal

On 4/18/2020 7:39 AM, exerpd+groupsio@... wrote:

Ok, Ok, I am stoked to do this.? I can get the aluminum locally @ the metal shop I use (Metal By The Foot, Kansas City).? They have 5” 6061 for $10 & change per inch + obviously no shipping charges.? Will contact them on Monday to ensure they have it in stock at the moment.? They have a very good system for the COVID19 problem.? You call & order & pay for the material over the phone.? They tell you when it will be ready.? When you get there, you call them again & say you are there in such & such a vehicle.? You pop the trunk, they come out & place it in the trunk with the receipt.? Off you go………….


--
Bruce Varner


Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

 

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Good job Dave.? I have been watching this topic periodically.? What did you use to the angle?
-Jody



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S10+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone


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-------- Original message --------
From: Dave Matticks <dpm100@...>
Date: 4/18/20 9:20 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment

Just for my own entertainment this morning and also maybe help someone out a little!
Aside from the turning and facing part, done with one tool.
Dimensions are just arbitrary, plug in the real ones.?
Sample is concept only but it is kind of cute.
Couple pics.?
One big key to success here is know where the machine is!

Dave?



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device