Re: Christmas greetings to all
Hello to Mitch up there in the regions of Ice and Snow !! Good to hear from you , I pray that you and yours will enjoy your holiday seasons . Stay warm , and safe . Thanks for checking in ! Henry H.
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Christmas greetings to all
Hi, all... I have been reading but not posting these long months. So sorry to hear, Jim, of your health complications. You are a living legacy and are of the generation that got a lot of us mid-50's (age) "boomers" into the more advanced aspects of the hobby and still kept it fun! Sean-good luck with the replacement surgery. Henry-I know you had a bad spell a while back-are you all up to speed yet? Train-wise I thinnned out a lot of my "heritage fleet" of diecast oldies (motive power wise) but kept a Penn Line Whitcomb, an older Bowser K-4 and the re-powered Varney NW2....went DCC (NCE) with the "scale' fleet and have the L-girders up for a 6x11 around-the-wall shelf layout in my den/train room. Family life (a wonderful but independent 14 yr ld daughter) and my wife's recent grad school loans keep me pretty train-free, but I love them dearly and it's worth it! And the real railroad that keeps me gainfully employed is a roller coaster ride, as the senior frt agent for the only shareholder-owned regional in New England. (we're the company that bought Rail America a while back)But I enjoy the companionship of you all electronically through good times and bad, and wish you all a wonderul Christmas , and if any of you (like myself) also do Chanukah, happy last day of same!!!!! Here's to keepin' 'em rolling, highballing right along through 2013. Good railroad and clear blocks all the way!
Mitch, up in the North Woods of Maine
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The best outcome for you, Sean. Denis
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HH,
If you have any photos you've taken, please post them. These 'things' are incredible to behold.
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Loved it Walter ! The "Boat" trolley is over here , in Rio Vista , CA . , or SF heritage trolley fest. One my "faves" was the Bella/Vespa scooter on pontoons ??? Henry
Regards, Walter
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Great.... I like the Amphicar. I had one for a long time. Got many stares when I drove it around Pasadena. Pete
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So you're in for the replacement ? Best of luck Sean , better at your youthful age then mine ! Keep me posted . Henry H.
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--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Sean Naylor <a69mustang4me@...> wrote:
Jim,
Tis a sad day indeed. I'll be calling you at some point to check in and see how you are doing. I really hope things turn around for you soon.
About to go in for knee surgery myself, so I have been frantically trying to get as much done on the house as I can in the mean time.
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Sean
"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!
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From: Jim Heckard <jimheck@...>
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Closing collection
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HH, Denis,
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I won't be completely signing off. "I'm just not getting involved
in long discussions where I have to sit a long time typing,
chasing info, etc. I will still be watching comments and will
answer if I see important points. You all take care now.
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Jim
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I'll second that thought . Henry H.
--- In yardbirdtrains@..., "Kathie Long" <TwoGriffs@> wrote:
Jim,
Don't you dare sign off here. You are now moving into
a period of advising,
providing historical info for vintage HO, and showing
how it's done with
your picture portfolios.
You are now a sage, good friend.
Denis
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Loved it Walter ! The "Boat" trolley is over here , in Rio Vista , CA . , or SF heritage trolley fest. One my "faves" was the Bella/Vespa scooter on pontoons ??? Henry
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Jim,
Tis a sad day indeed. I'll be calling you at some point to check in and see how you are doing. I really hope things turn around for you soon.
About to go in for knee surgery myself, so I have been frantically trying to get as much done on the house as I can in the mean time. ? Sean
"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!
From: Jim Heckard
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Closing collection
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HH, Denis,
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I won't be completely signing off. "I'm just not getting involved
in long discussions where I have to sit a long time typing,
chasing info, etc. I will still be watching comments and will
answer if I see important points. You all take care now.
??????????????????????????? Jim
On 12/4/2012 10:51 AM, Long95209 wrote:
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I'll second that thought . Henry H.
--- In yardbirdtrains@...,
"Kathie Long" wrote:
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> Jim,
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> Don't you dare sign off here. You are now moving into
a period of advising,
> providing historical info for vintage HO, and showing
how it's done with
> your picture portfolios.
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> You are now a sage, good friend.
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> Denis
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For the auto and sundries enthusiasts here.
-- Regards, Walter
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Jim,
? ? I spoke with Roger on Thursday and he told me he had already sent your parts back to you. Glad I could be of help. I know you'll inform the forum of your progress on the 4-8-2 so I'll be watching for your posts. Good luck with everything.
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From: Jim Heckard <jimheck@...>
To: yardbirdtrains
Sent: Sat, Dec 8, 2012 10:18 am
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Last project
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Jeff P, The assembled Bowser Mountain frame came back from a man
that assembled them courtesy of you. This will probably be my last
project till hopefully my medical problem gets better.
Jeff, tell Roger I appreciate him adding the eccentrics, etc to
my valve gears since my shaky hands wouldn't let me do it . Money will
be back on the way hopefully Monday. Parts came to late today to do
anything about paying.
Jim
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Jeff P, The assembled Bowser Mountain frame came back from a man that assembled them courtesy of you. This will probably be my last project till hopefully my medical problem gets better.
Jeff, tell Roger I appreciate him adding the eccentrics, etc to my valve gears since my shaky hands wouldn't let me do it . Money will be back on the way hopefully Monday. Parts came to late today to do anything about paying.
Jim
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That's good to now !! You keep close . Via con Dios my friend , [go with God ] !!? Henry
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--- On Fri, 12/7/12, Jim Heckard wrote:
From: Jim Heckard
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Closing collection
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 5:39 PM
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HH, Denis,
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I won't be completely signing off. "I'm just not getting involved
in long discussions where I have to sit a long time typing,
chasing info, etc. I will still be watching comments and will
answer if I see important points. You all take care now.
??????????????????????????? Jim
On 12/4/2012 10:51 AM, Long95209 wrote:
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I'll second that thought . Henry H.
--- In yardbirdtrains@...,
"Kathie Long" wrote:
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> Jim,
>
> Don't you dare sign off here. You are now moving into
a period of advising,
> providing historical info for vintage HO, and showing
how it's done with
> your picture portfolios.
>
> You are now a sage, good friend.
>
> Denis
>
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HH, Denis,
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I won't be completely signing off. "I'm just not getting involved
in long discussions where I have to sit a long time typing,
chasing info, etc. I will still be watching comments and will
answer if I see important points. You all take care now.
??????????????????????????? Jim
On 12/4/2012 10:51 AM, Long95209 wrote:
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I'll second that thought . Henry H.
--- In yardbirdtrains@...,
"Kathie Long" wrote:
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> Jim,
>
> Don't you dare sign off here. You are now moving into
a period of advising,
> providing historical info for vintage HO, and showing
how it's done with
> your picture portfolios.
>
> You are now a sage, good friend.
>
> Denis
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Re: axle spacing and driver diameter
Hello Rob . Have you tried hoseeker.org ? Many vintage models referenced there ? Try it , it may answer a lot of questions . As it is a few may be answered here ? Henry H.
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--- In yardbirdtrains@..., "Rob Kirkham" <rdkirkham@...> wrote:
Hi there - I joined this list a little while ago and find myself inspired by the discussions on the list.
I'm a CPR modeller and looking for suitable drive trains on which to build a reasonable fleet.
As a result, I've been looking at the Feb. 1990 Model Railroader article that documents the diameter and axle spacing of a number of formerly available models, including Mantua, MDC/Roundhouse and Bowser. The article isn't complete in that it omits some models within those company's product lines and skips some manufacturers (like old Bachman, Rivarossi) altogether. Since then, other manufacturers have come along with new products.
It is all very tempting and somewhat confusing. But bottom line, I'm wondering whether anyone has made corrections or attempted to fill in any of the blanks since then.
So far I have found one erroneous listing or change by the manufacturer:
a.. a friend has done measurements of the Bowser Casey Jones 4-6-0 and found: the axle spacing between 1st and 2nd drivers is only 63" instead of 6' 3" (75") as shown in the article, and likewise
b.. the article says the driver diameter should be 61" and the model measures closer to 51".
Turns out a bit of a disappointment for my CPR D9g project. I was hoping to find a model with a driver axle spacing of 6' 10" between axles 1 and 2, and spacing of 8' between axle 2 and 3. I figure if the axle spacing is OK, I can switch the the appropriate diameter drivers and make any other adjustments (pilot truck in particular).
Anyhow, was just wondering if others have collected this sort of information for other models and whether it is available on line etc. . . .
Rob Kirkham
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axle spacing and driver diameter
Hi there - I joined this list a little while ago and
find myself inspired by the discussions on the list.?
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I'm a CPR modeller and looking for suitable drive
trains on which to build?a reasonable fleet.?
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As a result, I've been looking at the Feb. 1990 Model
Railroader article that documents the diameter and axle spacing of a number of
formerly available models, including Mantua, MDC/Roundhouse and
Bowser.??The article isn't complete in that it omits some models
within those?company's product lines?and skips some manufacturers
(like old Bachman, Rivarossi) altogether.? Since then,?other
manufacturers have come along with new products.??
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It is all very tempting and somewhat confusing.?
But bottom line, I'm wondering whether anyone has made corrections or attempted
to fill in any of the blanks since then.
?
So far I have found one erroneous listing?or
change by the manufacturer:?
- a friend has done measurements of the Bowser Casey
Jones 4-6-0 and found: the axle spacing between 1st
and 2nd drivers is only 63" instead of 6' 3" (75") as shown in the article,
and likewise
- the article says the driver diameter should
be?61" and?the model measures?closer to 51".
Turns out a bit of a disappointment for my CPR D9g
project.??I was hoping to find a model with a driver axle spacing of
6' 10" between axles 1?and 2, and spacing of 8' between axle 2 and 3.?
I figure if the axle spacing is OK, I can switch the the appropriate diameter
drivers and make any other adjustments (pilot truck in particular).
?
Anyhow, was just wondering if others have collected
this sort of information for other models and whether it is available on line
etc. . . .??
?
Rob
Kirkham???
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Re: H10 Mantua Mikado (adding couplers)
Thanks Guyz,
?I have some 18" radius curves on my current layout.
?I installed?an operating?front coupler not so much to sort cars (but it could happen) but to double head with one of the H9 Mikados I am collecting parts for.
One of the H9 Mikados is a Rivarossi, the other is a Mantua/Tyco/Cary kitbash (neither are much to look at right now).
Thanks
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From: Long95209
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: H10 Mantua Mikado (adding couplers)
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 8:01 AM
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Jeff , I too want to know what radius is planned for this loco . Some really fine work Ray , thank you for sharing it with us . Henry H.
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> Nice work. I take it this is not just a show piece. You intend the loco to do some work, including car sorting? What minimum radius are you working with?
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> Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:22 pm
> Subject: [yardbirdtrains] H10 Mantua Mikado (adding couplers) [5 Attachments]
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> [Attachment(s) from Ray Marinaccio included below]
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> I installed a long shanked 30 series KD coupler to the tender. Hopefully the extra swing of the long shank coupler will compensate for the overhang the long tender has on sharp radius curves.
> The pilot had to be raised and supported to nount the coupler.
> I made a piece of channel to extend the frame from the cylinders to the pilot beam where the coupler would be mounted. The sides channel had to be cut out to clear the pilot wheels.
> The centering spring is an older KD centering spring that works like the newer 30 series . The coupler is a low shank 30 series
coupler.
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Re: H10 Mantua Mikado (adding couplers) [5 Attachments]
Jeff , I too want to know what radius is planned for this loco . Some really fine work Ray , thank you for sharing it with us . Henry H.
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Nice work. I take it this is not just a show piece. You intend the loco to do some work, including car sorting? What minimum radius are you working with?
Jeff
jppellas@...
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From: Ray Marinaccio <raymarinaccio@...>
To: yardbirdtrains <yardbirdtrains@...>
Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:22 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] H10 Mantua Mikado (adding couplers) [5 Attachments]
[Attachment(s) from Ray Marinaccio included below]
I installed a long shanked 30 series KD coupler to the tender. Hopefully the extra swing of the long shank coupler will compensate for the overhang the long tender has on sharp radius curves.
The pilot had to be raised and supported to nount the coupler.
I made a piece of channel to extend the frame from the cylinders to the pilot beam where the coupler would be mounted. The sides channel had to be cut out to clear the pilot wheels.
The centering spring is an older KD centering spring that works like the newer 30 series . The coupler is a low shank 30 series coupler.
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Re: H10 Mantua Mikado (adding couplers) [5 Attachments]
Hi Ray, That is REALLY nice work. ?Of course, we have grown to expect this kind of work from you. ?:o) ?Please keep the photos coming, they are really quite inspirational. Thanks and regards,? Vic Bitleris
Raleigh, NC
To: yardbirdtrains@... From: raymarinaccio@... Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:21:51 -0800 Subject: [yardbirdtrains] H10 Mantua Mikado (adding couplers) [5 Attachments]
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[Attachment(s) from Ray Marinaccio included below]
I installed a long shanked 30 series KD coupler to the tender. Hopefully the extra swing of the long shank coupler will compensate for the overhang the long tender has on sharp radius curves.
?The pilot had to be raised and supported to nount the coupler.
?I made a piece of channel to extend the frame from the cylinders to the pilot beam where the coupler would be mounted. The sides channel had to be cut out to clear the pilot wheels.
?The centering spring is an older KD centering spring that works like the newer 30 series . The coupler is a low shank 30 series coupler. |
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Re: H10 Mantua Mikado (adding couplers) [5 Attachments]
Nice work. I take it this is not just a show piece. You intend the loco to do some work, including car sorting? What minimum radius are you working with?
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From: Ray Marinaccio
To: yardbirdtrains
Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:22 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] H10 Mantua Mikado (adding couplers) [5 Attachments]
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[Attachment(s) from Ray Marinaccio included below]
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I installed a long shanked 30 series KD coupler to the tender. Hopefully the extra swing of the long shank coupler will compensate for the overhang the long tender has on sharp radius curves.
?The pilot had to be raised and supported to nount the coupler.
?I made a piece of channel to extend the frame from the cylinders to the pilot beam where the coupler would be mounted. The sides channel had to be cut out to clear the pilot wheels.
?The centering spring is an older KD centering spring that works like the newer 30 series . The coupler is a low shank 30 series coupler.
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H10 Mantua Mikado (adding couplers)
I installed a long shanked 30 series KD coupler to the tender. Hopefully the extra swing of the long shank coupler will compensate for the overhang the long tender has on sharp radius curves.
?The pilot had to be raised and supported to nount the coupler.
?I made a piece of channel to extend the frame from the cylinders to the pilot beam where the coupler would be mounted. The sides channel had to be cut out to clear the pilot wheels.
?The centering spring is an older KD centering spring that works like the newer 30 series . The coupler is a low shank 30 series coupler. |
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Jeff Pellas
Robert kirkham