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Re: drum kit differences and workflow advice

 

nah, horrible :-) still looking.
Re: drum kit differences and workflow advice

 

Anvil Studio, that was it. going to install this 2013 version, see what it's got.
Re: drum kit differences and workflow advice

 

it's fun listening to those midifile collections :-) had some of the better ones as ringtones at one point.

yes that's it: load an SMF into Song mode, and 'get phrase'/'put phrase'.
or else slave QY to computer and record the midi.

hey: what free alternatives to Cubase, for dropping an SMF onto an arrange page and splitting it out onto tracks?
i'm trying to think of an old midi sequencer, -but it wasn't Krystal Audio Engine, just checked-
or else there was a free cutdown Cubasis that just did midi? (that you don't have to register etc.?)
having a browse to see what's around now...
it's a bit like sampling, take little snippets of midi to recycle.
Re: drum kit differences and workflow advice

 

Oh nice, I didn't think of looking for a MIDI. I think I might just use it as reference and "transcribe" it into the QY as an exercise.?Looks like I may get this done in time for my group singing lessons.
Re: drum kit differences and workflow advice

 

Some SMFs can take up a lot of memory?

I often import the entire SMF from a Smart Media Card whilst in Song Mode
Then change to pattern mode and extract the main parts (Intro/Verse/Chorus) from the SMF Song?and paste them into individual pattern/styles: Intro, A, B, Fill in A/B, Fill in B/A and Ending?
I think it is the "get phrase" in Job Menu

Then once you have Intro/Verse/Chorus in say patterns of 8 bars you can assign and Edit a Voice in each track and then create a new Sequence in Song Mode - then delete the original SMF and your new song will take up less memory than the original Midi File and you can lengthen or shorten the Song if required.
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I never imported SMF into the QY100. (in the QY700 it is built in functionality) I think your fastest route is just record the tracks from the sequencer.

On Feb 15, 2023, at 1:26 AM, QYedit via groups.io <domgoold@...> wrote:

?just did a search for mad world.mid ;-)



these can be fun. i have some big zips of 'midis'. haven't been in there for a long time.
dropping a midifile on cubase opens it up onto its tracks, and then you can export individual tracks or bits of them.
i took some little bits and imported them to patterns in Orion, assigning them to VSTis.
next part would be to get these into a Style, and i was looking at CASMedit .. ran out of steam at that point having had a look at several 'CASM' freewares.
eg: a Style is like a midi file, but with section headers (something like that..)
i think this was because i hadn't got my head around directly loading *.mid files from the CF card. seem to remember the QYdatafiler software can do that, but the card uses Style format to load into Pattern. - was i being dense, rather than importing onto Song tracks? (haven't used qy100 for a long time :-/ )

lol anyone any good at coding? have a simple little utility for dropping *.mid files onto the 6 sections of a QY style ?

Re: drum kit differences and workflow advice

 

just did a search for mad world.mid ;-)



these can be fun. i have some big zips of 'midis'. haven't been in there for a long time.
dropping a midifile on cubase opens it up onto its tracks, and then you can export individual tracks or bits of them.
i took some little bits and imported them to patterns in Orion, assigning them to VSTis.
next part would be to get these into a Style, and i was looking at CASMedit .. ran out of steam at that point having had a look at several 'CASM' freewares.
eg: a Style is like a midi file, but with section headers (something like that..)
i think this was because i hadn't got my head around directly loading *.mid files from the CF card. seem to remember the QYdatafiler software can do that, but the card uses Style format to load into Pattern. - was i being dense, rather than importing onto Song tracks? (haven't used qy100 for a long time :-/ )

lol anyone any good at coding? have a simple little utility for dropping *.mid files onto the 6 sections of a QY style ?
Re: drum kit differences and workflow advice

 

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You know “Mad World” is from 1982, ?right? ;) That’s 41 years ago!

On Feb 14, 2023, at 6:51 PM, blakeAlbionCore <ben.tremblay@...> wrote:

?Excellent! It’s 2023 and the QY100 is doing Mad World. I don’t feel quite so old.

On Feb 14, 2023, at 7:34 PM, BillGrooves via <bill.grooves@...> wrote:

Thanks everyone - I found the Data List and printed it out and the differences are very well documented. That's why I deleted my initial post, but I guess it made it through.

Last night I cut up the original Mad World intro drums and pitched them around to compare with the CR-78 samples I have.
I was considering extracting the XG samples from the QY100 and to study/compare them with the Mad World intro to see how close I can get.

But for now I'll try to recreate them to a "close enough" state and not get bogged down in the details.
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Excellent! It’s 2023 and the QY100 is doing Mad World. I don’t feel quite so old.

On Feb 14, 2023, at 7:34 PM, BillGrooves via <bill.grooves@...> wrote:

Thanks everyone - I found the Data List and printed it out and the differences are very well documented. That's why I deleted my initial post, but I guess it made it through.

Last night I cut up the original Mad World intro drums and pitched them around to compare with the CR-78 samples I have.
I was considering extracting the XG samples from the QY100 and to study/compare them with the Mad World intro to see how close I can get.

But for now I'll try to recreate them to a "close enough" state and not get bogged down in the details.
Re: drum kit differences and workflow advice

 

Thanks everyone - I found the Data List and printed it out and the differences are very well documented. That's why I deleted my initial post, but I guess it made it through.

Last night I cut up the original Mad World intro drums and pitched them around to compare with the CR-78 samples I have.
I was considering extracting the XG samples from the QY100 and to study/compare them with the Mad World intro to see how close I can get.

But for now I'll try to recreate them to a "close enough" state and not get bogged down in the details.
Re: drum kit differences and workflow advice

 

Yeah. The CR-78 is hard to re-create even if you have good samples because the “latin” sounds are triggered by the internal clock.
I would take the electronic percussion kit and add effects. The main thing about that particular drum mix is a (cheap analog) delay with a sweeping LFO that’s bending the pitch.
Compare with Fun Boy Three’s The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Asylum).
Ultimately you might want to get those sounds from an external device and just use the QY100 as a temporary rhythm track. That’s why I am adding MIDI to my Rhythm Ace FR6M.

Best wishes,
Ben
Re: drum kit differences and workflow advice

 

sounds like there's only one potential cr78 sound, a kind of claves. there's a kind of pitched bamboo sound with it, and the rest are pretty regular accoustic kit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ZvPSpLxCg
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Hi Bill,

I don’t know if this helps but there’s a QY100 List Book that lists all of the instruments and hopefully the drum kit by influence.

If it’s not in the file section of the group then it’s probably easy to find on Google by searching for it by name and PDF.

You could also tweak one of the existing drum Kits using the ADR and cutoff resonance… though those settings probably affect the entire track so you might have to split out your drum sounds in that case.

Cheers,
Eric


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Re: Modern backlit LCD?

 

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To use a modern display you would need to add a microprocessor to decode the proprietary Optrex protocol and then drive your lcd or pled display with a modern library. Optrex displays are so expensive it’s cheaper to buy old QY20s then order a replacement part. If the cost of a cheap mcu and display is worth it, it could be a fun project.?

Benjamin Tremblay

On Feb 8, 2023, at 12:19 PM, Ken DiStefano <kendistefano@...> wrote:

? Anyone attempted the modern backlit LCD mod? Seems it would be a better solution than using the light overlay discussed here. But probably a lot more expensive.

Seen in this YouTube video:

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Anyone attempted the modern backlit LCD mod? Seems it would be a better solution than using the light overlay discussed here. But probably a lot more expensive.

Seen in this YouTube video:

Re: Card Reader Recommendation?

 

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The software is really just an option vs. removing the card (or rather for users that don’t own a card).

I don’t think i’s going to give you new features, it was just an alternative to copying the data to the card and then backing up thecard on the pc.

The only other feature is on the QY100 device - in the file menu you can export data as an SMF (Simple Midi File) to the card. ?As far as I know there was never a utility to convert .Q1S files directly to MIDI tracks via software.

Of course, there may be a device out there that can be connected to the MIDI-OUT port that will record and create a .midi file from the raw midi data, but if there is I have never used it.

Hopefully someone else can chime in with abetter option that exporting an SMF, since I believe there are some limitations to it’s usefulness. ?Generally I just do backups and restores with the card, keeping everything in .Q1S files.?


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Re: Card Reader Recommendation?

 

Thank you for the tip! I downloaded and installed the software for the QY100 along with the drivers. I have the files on my computer, but it looks like the software wants to read the data from the QY100. I can't see any way to convert the files that were directly copied from the card to my PC. They have a file extension of *.Q1S if that means anything.

It appears the next step is to get a MIDI/USB converter and try that!

Re: Card Reader Recommendation?

 

Hi again,

Just wanted to also mention that in the files section of this group there is an installable program called Filer for the QY100.

The program basically allows you to backup/transfer files from a computer to the QY100 via any decent set of 5-pin-to-usb midi cables, ?if memory serves, there is an option to transfer SMF (Simple Mdi Files) files as well… but basically anything done in that program can be done on the QY100 via the card and then transferring the files by using a card reader. ?


The Filer program is just a Nice optional transfer method for the QY 100 since it has a card… But for the QY70 is very instrumental as that machine doesn’t actually have a removable card for storage. ?The two machine use different Filer programs so just make sure to install the correct one for your device.
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You can export them using the menu to a SMF (simple midi file).?

Beyond that there is no current way to convert the *.QY files ?externally as far as I know.

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Re: Card Reader Recommendation?

 

Thanks for the info. I picked up a card ready and was able to successfully back up our files. The next task is to see about converting them into actual MIDI files!

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