I just got a "new" TX802, and among other things decided to try tweaking patches from the front panel.

All was (sort of) going well, until I tried to save one, and of course lost my edits, first time.? So, I referred to the manual, which referred me to the page about storing voices with the Store / Compare button, rather than telling me how to do it from Voice Edit mode.

The thing is, while editing a voice, the Store / Compare becomes the Compare button - letting you listen to the previous version of the patch.? Pressing it a second time just returns you to edit mode.

Pressing Voice Select instantly trashes my edits - but at least it does it consistently.

Any clues?? It seems the manual is useless, on this point.? I'm surprised I haven't read about this before, along with comments about how relatively easy it is to edit it from the front panel.

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On Dec 24, 2019, at 0:37, andy2no via Groups.Io <man.of.mystery@...> wrote:

Thanks, Bruce.

Yes, that works for me too - now I know what to do. I've been over and over that part of the manual, and it just doesn't explain how to save it, as far as I can see. I've lost every attempt at editing, before knowing to do that. It had taken on a bit of an unexploded bomb feeling.

I did find a bit about restoring the edit buffer, from the utility menu, but it didn't explain what would happen if I did - I fully expected to find myself back in the edit mode, still without any way to save it. I didn't want to try doing that, because I'd left it in edit mode, rather than lose another attempt at altering a patch.

Now I've got a TX802 in front of me, the manual seems lightweight and woefully inadequate. I've read manuals for other Yamaha FM synths I own, and never had that feeling before.

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Thanks, Bruce.?

Yes, that works for me too? - now I know what to do.? I've been over and over that part of the manual, and it just doesn't explain how to save it, as far as I can see.? I've lost every attempt at editing, before knowing to do that.? It had taken on a bit of an unexploded bomb feeling.

I did find a bit about restoring the edit buffer, from the utility menu, but it didn't explain what would happen if I did - I fully expected to find myself back in the edit mode, still without any way to save it.? I didn't want to try doing that, because I'd left it in edit mode, rather than lose another attempt at altering a patch.

Now I've got a TX802 in front of me, the manual seems lightweight and woefully inadequate.? I've read manuals for other Yamaha FM synths I own, and never had that feeling before.

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I've been wondering if anyone wrote a remote control program for it - the buttons can be operated by sysex, and I've seen something that can do that for the VL70-m.? I guess I could try to make something in Ctrlr, but I only vaguely know how to do that.
It's definitely more fun than my TX7, anyway.
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On Dec 24, 2019, at 1:44, andy2no via Groups.Io <man.of.mystery@...> wrote:

Good point, Daniel.? I was just thinking maybe I should read the DX7 II D manual, but I'd forgotten about the booklets.? I saved them when I saw them on the Yamahamusicians forum, but I'd forgotten all about them.

FWIW, I saw them here:



and also here (not sure why there's two threads) :



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