hmm... I had a quick look at it on the website, but it seems to be just a
VST plugin, not standalone.

Martin

Thanks for the patch Summa! Really helpful.

I have one more problem - there is a patch (a sort of clang-y clavinet) that
I need to recreate and sample, but being new to FM am TOTALLY lost. If
anyone can help me there is an example at:



This was done originally on a DX-7, and I now need to recreate it on Virtual
Sampler 2.5 and then sample it into a synthesizer.

Just for reference, does anyone know what the DX-7 emulation in Virtual
Sampler is like compared to the "original"?

Cheers,

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Thanks everyone! :o)

I am using V.Sampler which can read DX-7 patches in .syx format, and then
loading the sample into the Kurzweil K2000.

Thanks,

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I found "rubber road" in the TX802 Presets that came with sounddiver...
What softynth are you using, can it read DX sysex? So I might be able to
send it to you...

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Hi!

I believe there is a factory patch on the DX-7 called "Rubber Rhodes" or
similar. Could someone <beg>PLEASE</beg> let me know how this sound is made
up? I need to "recreate" it urgently on an FM soft synth to sample into my
Kurzweil.

Many thanks,

Martin :o)
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At 04:12 08.04.01 -0700, you wrote:

Hi Summa & all.


----- Summa Wrote -----

I hope you don't mind my comments!!!

Of course not. In fact, I greatly appreciate open communication--this
facilitates people
arriving at the truth. Apparently, you know a bit more about this than me,

so >it's important

that you clarify and correct the things I'm not clear on.

I just wondered why I haven't got an answer, so I thought my comments may
were unwanted and annoying...

----- Summa Wrote -----

Yep 35 and you also can define 5 addional ones ones including feedback for
every op..
As far as I know and see in Sounddiver, it has 16 waveforms per Operator and
can use a sample and a noise oscillator as additional operators...

Okay, so I'm gathering that the 2 most powerful FM synths ever made are the
FS1r and the
SY-77/99? They each can make lots of sounds the other can't, but each are

(for >the most part)

patch compatible with DX7 6-op? Am I right.

From what I heard the the SY can't read DX voices directly, so the sounds
have to be converted into SY format. Also, when I belive the magazines, it
seems to sound not that close to the orignal then the FS1R... it seems
Yamaha invested some time to make the FS1R sounding quite close to the DX7...

Your making me think I need to buy an SY77?

On the first sight it looks as if the FS1R has less waveforms the the SY,
but that's not entirely true. First of all the waveforms of the FS1R are
more complex then the SY ones and you have to multiply the waveforms with
the skirt and bandwith parameters. So you have 1 Sinus + 8 (skirt) * all1 +
8+all2 + 8 + odd1 + 8 + odd2 + (8 Resonant1) * 99 (Bandwith) + 8 * Resonant2
*99 + 8 * Formant * 99 * 21*128 (different possible frequencies)...
So the FS1R is, in my opinion, more a synthesis maschine then the SY...

What's the keyboard action like on the SY-77/99? Or would I be better off

with >a TG77?

If you're interested in the TG/SY synth email me privatly and I can give you
the email address of a friend of mine (he likes to talk about synths as much
as I do) who can answer you all your questions about that synth...

What does the PCM section sound like, and how does this interact with the

FM >synthesis?

According to that friend of mine, who also likes sounddprogramming, and has
the TG77 for some years he wasn't able to use the PCM waveforms much in FM
synthesis... when I look at the paraemters in Sounddiver, it seems to be an
additional operator that can be integrated into the algorithms...

Does the Yamaha EX-5/7 have FM, and if so, how good is it?

Don't know... at least Yamaha didn't mentioned it on there page... and I
wasn't able to find those FM paraemters on sounddiver either. Only the AN
voices have certain FM capabilities...

Anyone with experience with these synths, or other FM synths, I'd love to

hear >from you about your thoughts.
I always like to add my old CASIOs to the list of FM synths, since phase
distortion is originaly Phase Modulation and the way Yamaha implemented FM
is also Phase Modulation...

p.s. Summa, are you on any other lists I'm on, or just the K5000?

I'm not sure... I just looked through the Yahoo Clubs, and the Yahoogroups
list I'm in and haven't found your name in any other lists then the YamahaDX
and the K5000 one. When it comes to other mailing lists I can't tell since
they don't have a members directory...
Are you in any other DX list or a member of a Teklab.com or the Waldorf
mailing list?

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Shayme wrote:

Hi Summa & all.
?

----- Summa Wrote -----
> I hope you don't mind my comments!!!

Of course not. In fact, I greatly appreciate open communication--this facilitates people
arriving at the truth. Apparently, you know a bit more about this than me, so it's important
that you clarify and correct the things I'm not clear on.

I agree

?
----- Summa Wrote -----
> Yep 35 and you also can define 5 addional ones ones including feedback for
> every op..
> As far as I know and see in Sounddiver, it has 16 waveforms per Operator and
> can use a sample and a noise oscillator as additional operators...

Okay, so I'm gathering that the 2 most powerful FM synths ever made are the FS1r and the
SY-77/99? They each can make lots of sounds the other can't, but each are (for the most part)
patch compatible with DX7 6-op? Am I right.

One of my friends once had a SY77, and we never found a way to dump Dump DX7 sounds in to it.

Your making me think I need to buy an SY77? What's the keyboard action like on the SY-77/99? Or
would I be better off with a TG77? What does the PCM section sound like, and how does this
interact with the FM synthesis?

The Keyboard action on the SY-77 is close to the DX7IID but the after touch is more sensitive (by the way the DXIID does not contain a disk drive).

Does the Yamaha EX-5/7 have FM, and if so, how good is it?

As far as I know it only contains (triangle) FM in the AN mode.

Anyone with experience with these synths, or other FM synths, I'd love to hear from you about
your thoughts.

In my opinnion is the SY-77 not as good as it seems, the sound is somehow borring compared to the DX7II serie and some parrameters are missing for example it is not posible to assign what ever parameter you like to the datasliders, here the unison is also missing.
Im not into all details on the EX5/7 but I noticed that the AN synth does not sound as god as the original AN1x.

Joergen
?

Hi!

I believe there is a factory patch on the DX-7 called "Rubber Rhodes" or
similar. Could someone <beg>PLEASE</beg> let me know how this sound is made
up? I need to "recreate" it urgently on an FM soft synth to sample into my
Kurzweil.

Many thanks,

Martin :o)
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Hi,

I own assorted Yamaha equipment, but the SY-22 that I have just retrieved has about the worst factory-installed sounds I know of. The only thing astonishing is the quality of the fake piano, but then I have a sampled one sounding better somewhere else - does anybody know what the difference between the SY22 and the bigger models is, and what anybody used them for?

HC


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Shayme wrote:

Hi Summa & all.


----- Summa Wrote -----

I hope you don't mind my comments!!!

Of course not. In fact, I greatly appreciate open communication--this facilitates people
arriving at the truth. Apparently, you know a bit more about this than me, so it's important
that you clarify and correct the things I'm not clear on.


----- Summa Wrote -----

Yep 35 and you also can define 5 addional ones ones including feedback for
every op..
As far as I know and see in Sounddiver, it has 16 waveforms per Operator and
can use a sample and a noise oscillator as additional operators...

Okay, so I'm gathering that the 2 most powerful FM synths ever made are the FS1r and the
SY-77/99? They each can make lots of sounds the other can't, but each are (for the most part)
patch compatible with DX7 6-op? Am I right.

Your making me think I need to buy an SY77? What's the keyboard action like on the SY-77/99? Or
would I be better off with a TG77? What does the PCM section sound like, and how does this
interact with the FM synthesis?

Does the Yamaha EX-5/7 have FM, and if so, how good is it?

Anyone with experience with these synths, or other FM synths, I'd love to hear from you about
your thoughts.

Thanks,


Shayme

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I believe there is a factory patch on the DX-7 called "Rubber Rhodes" or
similar. Could someone <beg>PLEASE</beg> let me know how this sound is made
up? I need to "recreate" it urgently on an FM soft synth to sample into my
Kurzweil.

Many thanks,

Martin :o)
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Hi everyone,
Does someone use Vst instruments plugin "FMheaven" on the PC
Yours truly / Sincrement votre
Francis FIMA

Hi Summa & all.


----- Summa Wrote -----

I hope you don't mind my comments!!!

Of course not. In fact, I greatly appreciate open communication--this facilitates people
arriving at the truth. Apparently, you know a bit more about this than me, so it's important
that you clarify and correct the things I'm not clear on.


----- Summa Wrote -----

Yep 35 and you also can define 5 addional ones ones including feedback for
every op..
As far as I know and see in Sounddiver, it has 16 waveforms per Operator and
can use a sample and a noise oscillator as additional operators...

Okay, so I'm gathering that the 2 most powerful FM synths ever made are the FS1r and the
SY-77/99? They each can make lots of sounds the other can't, but each are (for the most part)
patch compatible with DX7 6-op? Am I right.

Your making me think I need to buy an SY77? What's the keyboard action like on the SY-77/99? Or
would I be better off with a TG77? What does the PCM section sound like, and how does this
interact with the FM synthesis?

Does the Yamaha EX-5/7 have FM, and if so, how good is it?

Anyone with experience with these synths, or other FM synths, I'd love to hear from you about
your thoughts.

Thanks,


Shayme

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?Hi Joergen.?What country are you from that makes your English so interesting? Deutschland??

---- Joergen Answer----
Not exactly, but very close. I'm from Denmark
??
----- Joergen wrote -----Okay that's the most important thing to hear since I want to dump my voices from the DX7IID. but the DX7IID is a improved version of the original DX7 with voice parameters not found on the old DX7 for example Unison and Random pitch. Parameters like Pitch bend, BC, AT, MW, FC1, FC2 is also stored in a voice on the DX7IID. Do you know if the FS1r have these parameters? and is it capable of converting these parameters from the DX7IID???----- Shayme wrote -----I'm not absolutely sure, but 99% sure. My understanding is that my TX802 is a 8-part multitimbral DX7II? Are all the same parameters on your friends TX802 that are on your DX7II? What's the D signify in "IID"?

---- Joergen Answer ----
Eeeh, my plan is to dump my own voice from the DX7IID to the FS1r not the TX802, and I Don't know what the D in "IID" signify, but that's the name of the model I have.
?
?----- Joergen wrote -----Hmm okay so it's not 100% dump compatible with all previous FM synths from yamaha, so if you want a sound from your TX81z in your FS1r you have to do it by making the sound again? or by writing down all parameters of the sound and insert them again in the FS1r?----- Shayme wrote -----Well, I think the FS1r--like Yamaha's 6-op synths--only has SINE waves available for the operators. It has 8 operators (8-op) however, so for DX7 voices it mutes the extra 2 operators.?The problem with the TX81x (and it's DX?? equivalent) is that the TX81z has 8 waveforms to choose from for each of it's 4 operators. Therefore, it could be difficult to reprogram these sounds on the FS1r. I suspect most of these sounds could be done, using the extra 4 operators to modify the others in order to simulate the built-in waveforms the TX81z has. But that's beyond me.?---- Joergen Answer ----
I just downloaded the FS1r manual, and found out that the Oscillator in the FS1r contains the following spectral forms:

sine:??????? we all know what that is :-)
all 1:??????? Broad band - Including all harmonics.
all 2:??????? Narrow band - Including all harmonics.
odd 1:????? Broad band? - odd harmonics only
odd 2:????? Narrow band - odd harmonics only
res1:??????? Resonant broad band
res 1:?????? Resonant narrow band
frmt:???????? The operator will function as a formant for formant shaping synthesis

No exactly TX81z but definitely a lot more interesting.----- Joergen wrote -----The SY77 and SY99 also contains a 6-operator FM synthesizer but with more Algorithms than it's predators, not that I need to know but is the FS1r capable of dumping sounds from those???----- Shayme wrote -----Really, the SY's have more algorithms? I wasn't aware of that. My TX802 has 32 algorithms, I think, and the TX81z has 8 algorithms, I think. I think the FS1r has something like 80 or 88 algorithms--but of course, each time you add operators to a synth, the number of algorithms needs to go up dramatically. A 1-operator synth can only have 1 algorithm--that's about right for my level of FM programming.?Don't the SY77s have more waveforms to choosefrom--in their sample ROM? Or is that a seperate synthesis section of the overall unit?
??---- Joergen Answer ----
Yes The SY77 and SY99 have more algorithms 45 to be exact, 16 wave forms 2 LFO's And 2 filters, the samples are not part of the algorithm structure so it is not possible to FM modulate PCM samples with other PCMsamples.
?
?----- Joergen wrote -----[I] wonder why yamaha [has discontinued FS1r] (I'm properly not the only one). And they did the same with there excellent AN1x synth.?I by It no doubt about that, and I let you all know when I've got it. But maybe I should sell my DX7IID after I got the FS1r.??----- Shayme wrote -----I think the FS1r was a marketing failure. I don't think the AN1x was. Not very many people appreciate the great modern synths. Like the FS1r, the K5000 is a similar, unique and wonderful synth that didn't succeed in the marketplace.?People are too busy buying those amazing Roland Grooveboxes and JV2080 synths. (If you love the modern Roland line of synths, please don't take offense at my puking).?What 6 synths do you have?

---- Joergen Answer ----
Beside the Yamaha DX7IID I own a:
Kurzweil K2000r V3
Roland SH-2
Yamaha AN1x
Roland JP-8080
And finally JV-1080 ( Don't underestimate the power of this machine )
??----- Shayme wrote -----Someone wrote that he didn't think the FS1r doesn't truthfully emulate his DX7 patches. I'm not sure what exactly he's talking about, and I'm curious about that.?On the issue of selling your DX7, be very carefull and very sure before you let go a piece of gear that you've used and enjoy. Make SURE you give that thought a lot of time and don't sell something that you wish you had later on. This is a common mistake.?

---- Joergen Answer ----
I know.... I have done that mistake a couple of times.
??----- Shayme wrote -----If you like the keyboard/controller portion of the DX7II, then that's one thing to keep in mind. If you have too many keyboards (like me), then it might make sense to get a rack mounted replacement. If you find the FS1r doesn't cut it, then I recommend a TX802 (which has the advantage of multitimbrality, 8 compared to 1 (or is it 2) on your DX7, compared to 4 on the FS1r).By the way, the FS1r comes with about 1000 of their classic DX7 patches in the ROM--so you will mostly have to worry about getting your own sounds and the sounds you've acquired from sources other than Yamaha. It's a good bet that if it's a classic Yamaha DX7 sound, it's in the FS1r.?Good luck, and I hope you get the FS1r and tell us about it.

---- Joergen Answer ----
I do :-)
?

regards?

Joergen

Hi Shayme,

I hope you don't mind my comments!!!

I'm not absolutely sure, but 99% sure. My understanding is that my TX802

is a >8-part multitimbral DX7II? Are all the same parameters on your friends
TX802 >that are on your DX7II? What's the D signifiy in "IID"?

Yes, the DX7II is DX7II compatible, but the FS1R has no fractional scaling
parameters, no Unisono mode and no microtune...
The D stands for the built in diskdrive...

The problem with the TX81x (and it's DX?? equivalent) is that the TX81z

has 8 >waveforms to choose from for each of it's 4 operators. Therefore, it
could be >difficult to reprogram these sounds on the FS1r. I suspect most of
these sounds >could be done, using the extra 4 operators to modify the
others in order to >simulate the built-in waveforms the TX81z has. But
that's beyond me.

Some ppl at the teklab mailing list have are working on that problem,
simulating those waveforms seems to be quite difficult...

There's also a web page with some hints for converting 4Op to 6Op synths and
a archive for the mailing list...

Really, the SY's have more algorithms? I wasn't aware of that.

Yep 35 and you also can define 5 addional ones ones including feedback for
every op..

Don't the SY77s have more waveforms to choosefrom--in their sample ROM? Or

is >that a seperate synthesis section of the overall unit?
As far as I know and see in Sounddiver, it has 16 waveforms per Operator and
can use a sample and a noise oscillator as additional operators...

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I want to clear something up though--the FS1r can take sysex dumps of
Yamaha's 6-operator
FM-synths (DX7, TX7, TX802 for example), but not the 4-operator
synths.

Okay that's the most important thing to hear since I want to dump my
voices from the DX7IID. but the DX7IID is a improved version of the
original DX7 with voice parameters not found on the old DX7 for example
Unison and Random pitch. Parameters like Pitch bend, BC, AT, MW, FC1,
FC2 is also stored in a voice on the DX7IID. Do you know if the FS1r
have these parameters? and is it capable of converting these parameters
from the DX7IID?

The FS1R can't do the DX7II (I don't have a DX7II myself, but read the
manual) parmenters like fractional scaling and unisono mode... (you could
try to emulate the poly unisono mode by layering a sound 4 times...) it has
Pitch bend, BC, AT, MW ... and lots of other realtime controller but it's
not stored within a voice it's store within a performance...

So, it isn't patch-compatible with 4-operator synths. This would be
difficult with the TX81z
(which I also own), since it has waveforms other than SINE.

Hmm okay so it's not 100% dump compatible with all previous FM synths
from yamaha, so if you want a sound from your TX81z in your FS1r you
have to do it by making the sound again? or by writing down all
parameters of the sound and insert them again in the FS1r?

As for the DX7 you can't convert the TX81z voices, first of all the FS1R has
different waveforms then the TX81z and the modulation index of 4OP synth is
higher then the ones of the 6OP or in this case 8/16 OP synths...

The SY77 and SY99 also contains a 6-operator FM synthesizer but with
more Algorithms than it's predators, not that I need to know but is the
FS1r capable of dumping sounds from those?

It can't, since it has different waveforms and no PCMs... but you won't find
much free SY77/99 Sounds out there...

I got that impression of the FS1r to, It sound great, an it have a lot
of new functions that could inspire a synth programmer like me :-)

It is truely a fine and inspireing synth as long as you don't want to
programm the FS1R diretly from the front panel... ;) I use the SD OEM
Version instead...

("Hmm I only own 6 synths")

7 here... (but most of them are quite old and worthless for any other ppl.
then myself ;))

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Shayme wrote:

You wrote "FS1r...sounded so god", and your typo is actually kinda ironic, because I believe
this synth is and sounds "god."

He he It wasn't? mend that way my english is not always that good. And yes the FS1r still sounds brilliant :-)

I want to clear something up though--the FS1r can take sysex dumps of Yamaha's 6-operator
FM-synths (DX7, TX7, TX802 for example), but not the 4-operator synths.

Okay that's the most important thing to hear since I want to dump my voices from the DX7IID. but the DX7IID is a improved version of the original DX7 with voice parameters not found on the old DX7 for example Unison and Random pitch. Parameters like Pitch bend, BC, AT, MW, FC1, FC2 is also stored in a voice on the DX7IID. Do you know if the FS1r have these parameters? and is it capable of converting these parameters from the DX7IID?

I have owned a TX802 for about 8 years, and I've loved it. I was so ecstatic when the FS1r came
along, with it's "backward compatibility."

I tell that to a friend of mine who have a TX802

So, it isn't patch-compatible with 4-operator synths. This would be difficult with the TX81z
(which I also own), since it has waveforms other than SINE.

Hmm okay so it's not 100% dump compatible with all previous FM synths from yamaha, so if you want a sound from your TX81z in your FS1r you have to do it by making the sound again? or by writing down all parameters of the sound and insert them again in the FS1r?

The SY77 and SY99 also contains a 6-operator FM synthesizer but with more Algorithms than it's predators, not that I need to know but is the FS1r capable of dumping sounds from those?

Also, I hope you know that the FS1r has been discontinued for a year or more. During Jan.-Apr.
2000 time frame, here in the US, they were blowing them out for $400 new at Guitar Center,
Musician's Friend, and American Musical Supply (where I got mine). They sell used for $450-$550
on eBay currently.

Yes I Know that and wonder why yamaha have done that (I'm properly not the only one). And they did the same with there excellent AN1x synth.

So--if you find one new--don't act like you want it too much. And be sure to let the guy know
you know it's an old-stock item.

But by all means, MAKE IT HAPPEN and own this wonderful synth.

I currently own 14 synths, and the FS1r is one of my 2 or 3 all-time favorites.

I got that impression of the FS1r to, It sound great, an it have a lot of new functions that could inspire a synth programmer like me :-)
("Hmm I only own 6 synths")

Good luck--and please let me (us) know if you get it or not.

Shayme

I by It no doubt about that, and I let you all know when I've got it. But maybe I should sell my DX7IID after I got the FS1r.

Joergen

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Subject: [YamahaDX] Changing to a FS1r

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> Hi
>
> I am new on the list, I have a DX7IID and I like a lot. A couple of weeks
> ago I head the new FS1r and it sounded so god that I was considering a
> change of my old DX7IID. The Clark in the shop told me that it i possible to
> dump voices from any previous fm (DX - TX - SY.... and so on) synths yamaha
> have made, is that really true? I know Yamaha have done it in the past I
> converted all the sounds form the DX7 to the DX7IID with good result meaning
> the voices sounded a lot better than the original DX7. but all all these
> model? If anyone on the list had the experience then I like to know :-) One
> thing I noticed is that could not find any Key Mode (meaning Polyphonic,
> Monophonic, Unison poly and Unison mono) on the FS1r. have I missed a menu?
> and if not how does the FS1r convert these settings from the DX7IID?
>
> I twisted around the FS1r and found the user interface slow to use but this
> problem could be solved by a god editor. The one on Yamaha's side is only
> for MAC. So my question is were do I find a good editor for PC win9X,
> WinNT/2000, BeOS ore Linux?
>
> Regards
>
> Joergen
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From: "Julie Shore" <julie_tied@...>
Reply-To: YamahaDX@...
To: YamahaDX@...
Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] Changing to a FS1r
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 18:05:32 -0000

I have owned an FS1R, and the patches definitely do not sound anything like
an original DX7, when you load your sounds in from the DX the difference is
staggering, thin and weedy some them up, even after some tweaking they just
don`t sound the same, but saying that, the FS is one of the most original
boxes around, but no a DX stand in ! best use it for original sounds.

Julie.




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