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Re: DX7 not reponding to any button

 

Hello!

I'm curious if this problem was ever solved. I picked up a DX-7 today which I got for free and it has a similar problem. When powered on, it says 88. Memory Protect Cartridge On. It's stuck and none of the buttons work.

Thanks.

Jim

--- In YamahaDX@..., "nashoo" <nash00_ion@...> wrote:

I have measured the batterys voltage, it shows 3v. It shoul be ok.

--- In YamahaDX@..., "uldiszemzars" <uldiszemzars@> wrote:

Just replace battery

--- In YamahaDX@..., "nashoo" <nash00_ion@> wrote:

I have started the dx without the connections between the buttons and the moterboard. It's the same, the problem remains. So the buttons panels are ok. Im means that it can be a firmware problem ?

--- In YamahaDX@..., Florian Anwander <fanwander@> wrote:

hello

Am 29.08.2011 16:47, schrieb nashoo:
It shows someting like "27" (i believe some digits are not working), but on the screen it shows "Memory protect cardridge on". I have checked the button, but it is not stucked, it works ok. No ideea what could be wrong. I have also checked the connections between the buttons pannel and mainboard, and they seemed to be allright.
I don't know whether the firmware of the DX works without the panel
buttons, but it might be worth a try to boot WITHOUT a connection
between the panel and the mainboard.

If it starts fine without the panel, you know that the panel pcb is
somehow corrupted.

Florian


Re: TX81Z loading DX100/27/21 sysex problem

Jason Adkins
 

Thanks Greg,

You were totally correct,I do apologize,the TX81Z is at the bottom of my rack which means bending
myself double and lying on the floor,I didn't go far enough in the menus.

Jason (ouch)


On 7 Sep 2011, at 09:34, Greg wrote:

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The TX81Z and the keyboard equivalent DX11 are sysex-compatible successors to the DX21 (they include, for instance, a choice of 8 waveforms per operator). Check manual first to see if there is a "receive system-exclusive on/off" function.

--- In YamahaDX@..., "metatone_2000" <jason_ralf808@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Got the TX802 sorted (thanks Daniel) now I can't seem to load DX100/27/21 sysex
> into my TX81Z,does the sysex data need editing for the TX81Z to accept it? and yes
> memory protect was off lol
>
> Jason
>



Re: TX81Z loading DX100/27/21 sysex problem

Jason Adkins
 

Thanks Greg,

Talk about cryptic on the TX81Z probably will end up just using the presets,I can't even see "midi transfer done" or whatever on it and the 32 user voices are still the bloody same whatever I do.

Jason

On 7 Sep 2011, at 09:34, Greg wrote:

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The TX81Z and the keyboard equivalent DX11 are sysex-compatible successors to the DX21 (they include, for instance, a choice of 8 waveforms per operator). Check manual first to see if there is a "receive system-exclusive on/off" function.

--- In YamahaDX@..., "metatone_2000" wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Got the TX802 sorted (thanks Daniel) now I can't seem to load DX100/27/21 sysex
> into my TX81Z,does the sysex data need editing for the TX81Z to accept it? and yes
> memory protect was off lol
>
> Jason
>



Re: TX81Z loading DX100/27/21 sysex problem

Greg
 

The TX81Z and the keyboard equivalent DX11 are sysex-compatible successors to the DX21 (they include, for instance, a choice of 8 waveforms per operator). Check manual first to see if there is a "receive system-exclusive on/off" function.

--- In YamahaDX@..., "metatone_2000" <jason_ralf808@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

Got the TX802 sorted (thanks Daniel) now I can't seem to load DX100/27/21 sysex
into my TX81Z,does the sysex data need editing for the TX81Z to accept it? and yes
memory protect was off lol

Jason


Controller assignment in DX7 family

Greg
 

Among Yamaha's 6-operator FM synths I have found 4 different ways of assigning

controllers to various functions (e.g. pitch modulation depth for the mod wheel).

1. DX7 Mark I Function parameter changes (F0 43 1n 08)

2a. TX7/TX816 Performance bulk dump (F0 43 0n 01)
2b. TX7/TX816 Performance parameter changes (F0 43 1n 04)
2c. TX7/TX816 64-Performance bulk dump (F0 43 0n 02)
(These synths also receive 1.)

3a. DX7II/DX7S/TX802 ACED (single-voice supplement) bulk dump (F0 43 0n 05)
3b. DX7II/DX7S/TX802 ACED parameter changes (F0 43 1n 18)
3c. DX7II/DX7S/TX802 AMEM (32-voice supplement) bulk dump (F0 43 0n 06)

4a. DX200/PLG150DX XG multi-part bulk dump (F0 43 0n 4C LL LL 08 0p nn)
4b. DX200/PLG150DX XG parameter changes (F0 43 1n 4C 08 0p nn)
(These synths do not use the controller-assign parameters in 3a.)

The Java program in dx7param.zip in the Files section generates 1. before 2a./3a. so

the same bulk dump can be used for both DX7 Mark I (with channel changed by the Java

program in dx7chan.zip) and either DX7II or TX7.

For 4a./4b. use an XG editor such as:
XGC (free from www.midiox.com, base XG + DB50XG/SW60XG/MU10 2-element voice loader)
XG-Gold (base XG + QS300/DB50XG/SW60XG/MU10 4-element voice editor)
XG-Wizard (SW1000XG)
XGedit, XG-Pad (generic)
Note that filter modulation is inoperative here.


TX81Z loading DX100/27/21 sysex problem

metatone_2000
 

Hi everyone,

Got the TX802 sorted (thanks Daniel) now I can't seem to load DX100/27/21 sysex
into my TX81Z,does the sysex data need editing for the TX81Z to accept it? and yes
memory protect was off lol

Jason


Re: A newbie to the group.

 

--- In YamahaDX@..., <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

the only way you will get sounds like that with a fm synth is a sy99 using spectra samples and the fm patches

i use additive synth waveforms and dx7 patches
----- Original Message -----
From: Florian Anwander
To: YamahaDX@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] A newbie to the group.



Hello Bill,

welcome to the group!

I fear you won't have a chance to get such sounds from a DX7. The sounds
in the Technics keyboards are excellent multi samples. The DX7 can do
some kind of vowel like "resonant" modulation, which sound a little bit
like "aaah", but it will miss all the breath and aspirateing, that a
sample can provide easily. DX7 "voice" and "choir" patches sound very
poor in comparison to any sampled voices/choirs.

Florian

Bill wrote:
> Does anyone know of any human voice patches for the DX-7?? I am refering to the excellent voice sounds of a Technics 5-6-or7000. Thank you. Bill

I agree on the analysis here of vocal patches with DX7 (poor quality), and yes you can do excellent voice patches on the SY99 including full speech or singing. Check the beginning of this SY99 demo, Chick Corea's spoken introduction is samples loaded onto the SY99.


Clyde


Re: A newbie to the group.

 

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the only way you will get sounds like that with a fm synth is a sy99 using spectra samples and the fm patches
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i use additive synth waveforms? and dx7 patches

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] A newbie to the group.

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Hello Bill,

welcome to the group!

I fear you won't have a chance to get such sounds from a DX7. The sounds
in the Technics keyboards are excellent multi samples. The DX7 can do
some kind of vowel like "resonant" modulation, which sound a little bit
like "aaah", but it will miss all the breath and aspirateing, that a
sample can provide easily. DX7 "voice" and "choir" patches sound very
poor in comparison to any sampled voices/choirs.

Florian

Bill wrote:
> Does anyone know of any human voice patches for the DX-7?? I am refering to the excellent voice sounds of a Technics 5-6-or7000. Thank you. Bill



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Re: A newbie to the group.

 

Hello Bill,

welcome to the group!

I fear you won't have a chance to get such sounds from a DX7. The sounds in the Technics keyboards are excellent multi samples. The DX7 can do some kind of vowel like "resonant" modulation, which sound a little bit like "aaah", but it will miss all the breath and aspirateing, that a sample can provide easily. DX7 "voice" and "choir" patches sound very poor in comparison to any sampled voices/choirs.


Florian


Bill wrote:

Does anyone know of any human voice patches for the DX-7?? I am refering to the excellent voice sounds of a Technics 5-6-or7000. Thank you. Bill


TX802 sysex transfer problem

metatone_2000
 

Hi all,

I have been transfering some sysex voices to my TX802 and am having an annoying problem.
As the sysex voices are banks of 32 and the TX802 has 64 program slots you can specify in System either to load into slots 1-32 or 33-64 but try as I might it will only load them into slots 1-32.Is this due to the sysex files I am trying to transfer telling the TX802 to load into 1-32? I am completely at a loss on this,so any help will be greatly appreciated!

Jason


A newbie to the group.

 

Does anyone know of any human voice patches for the DX-7?? I am refering to the excellent voice sounds of a Technics 5-6-or7000. Thank you. Bill


Re: Heads up on my software

 

--- In YamahaDX@..., Ryan Daum <ryan.daum@...> wrote:

Does your editor also work with the 4-op TX series, TQ-5, etc?

I'm a Java developer also, I'd be willing to help out with both testing and
development if you want.

I've got a DX200, FS1R, and TQ-5. The DX200 should act like a DX7 for
testing, and it would be interesting to try to adapt your code to work with
the latter two.

Ryan
At present it doesn't work with four operator synths. However, I own a FB01 (which I bought when it was just released and have never really used). So, when I get the basic 6-op series work, as well as weird and unusual plugins :) I hope to get it working with the FB-01. That would require some adaptation of sysex etc., and once that's done, it should be easy to expand to other 4 and 6 op synths. I don't know how sysex compatible the various 4 op synths and 6 op synths are. At present there is an "Instrument" choice in one menu, but the only options are DX7 or TX7, and nothing is done with that choice yet. Adding a FB01 choice, disabling operators 5 and 6, and then propagating changes throughout the software (different algorithms etc. would prepare it for adding additional instruments.

At present the code is fairly rough. Occasionally I go through things already written and smooth them out a bit :), but I wasn't thinking of exposing my code to public scrutiny just yet. Ryan, I'll send you the executable .jar file including source, but would like to keep smoothing it out and completing it. Particularly for the "detailed editing" window, there's a lot still undone, but the basic editing seems to work OK.

The design of the software is that it will be a program to which additional functionality can be added through plugins. So, if you or other java developers wanted to add something to it, plugins would be a good way to do things. I was hoping to head up the route towards the more advanced FM synths, but for something as advanced as the FS1R, with it's additional filters etc., I'm not sure how that would be easy. My next target was actually the DX7II, which I don't yet own. But, when I get to the situation where it's more important for me to have a DX7II, then I'll up my ebay bid amounts from "waiting for a bargain" to "I want one now!".

Charlie, your computer probably already has java on it, as many web pages require it. You could try running the sample java program I uploaded to DXFiles, and see if it works.

I'm hoping to do some trial runs on Windows XP today or thereabouts. Testing on Windows 7 was .... inconclusive. The program works, but Windows 7 suddenly lost my USB MIDI interface half way through. It then wouldn't recognise it, even if unplugged and plugged back in again, until I rebooted. The interface also vanished from other MIDI enabled software such as Max/MSP. Searching around suggests that Windows 7 has "issues" with MIDI, so I don't know if this was a problem with my program or a general MIDI/Operating System problem. More experimentation will follow.

The program is designed to use fairly high resolution screens, in order to get sliders and parameter boxes for all basic parameters on the screen at once. But, the monitors that I tested on were even bigger in pixel terms (and physical size) than my mac, and my interface took up nothing like all of the screen. I think I'd better make the program realise that there is additional screen size, and use it appropriately.

Cheers,

Ross


Re: Heads up on my software

 

On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Ryan Daum wrote:

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Does your editor also work with the 4-op TX series, TQ-5, etc?


I'm a Java developer also, I'd be willing to help out with both testing and development if you
want.

I've got a DX200, FS1R, and TQ-5. ?The DX200 should act like a DX7 for testing, and it would be
interesting to try to adapt your code to work with the latter two.
The TQ-5 is a COMPLETELY different beast!
Yes, it is both FM and it is both Yamaha. But that's where the similarity
stops.

I can tell: I wrote YSEDITOR for the 4-op synths and DXconvert for the DX7
(etc). DXconvert can import 4-op sounds and convert them to 6-op DX7
sounds. Works quite well, but still what you get is a conversion not a 1
to 1 copy.

A similar 4-op import/conversion in the new DX7 editor would be nice
though. Is a Java program able to call an external program that is written in Python ? In that case I won't mind if it uses my DXconvert to import
all kinds of file formats. That would be a nice collaboration!

--

MT


Re: Heads up on my software

 

sorry unwilling to instsall java

sticking with my atari editor

release the source and i will try to port to atari

no java got enough stuff on the pc as is

thanks

charles

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Clement" <rossclement@...>
To: <YamahaDX@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:18 AM
Subject: [YamahaDX] Re: Heads up on my software





--- In YamahaDX@..., charlie 'chop' copp <charles.copp@...>
wrote:

ross available for the pc too?

charles
It should run on the PC too, but I have never tested it. I'll take my TX7
into work today and give it a go.

To run my program on any machine, you have to have Java installed and it
be set up to run .jar files. If Java is installed normally, you can run .jar
files just by double clicking on them. I've put a test file up into
that you
or anyone could use to test if they have java installed and set up. Called
"TestJar.jar". If you save this on your desktop and double click, it'll run
and bring up a small window saying that you can run .jar files, or it won't.
Could you please give that a test?

I've just tried on my Mac (OS X 10.6.8) and it runs a .jar file fine if
double clicked, with just the standard java and java setup that comes with
the operating system.

At present I have no installer. I can send a .jar file by normal email
(don't want to upload one in public yet), but I will also have to send the
help as a zip file that you'd have to extract. If you want the "speech" part
of it, then that's a 15M zip file of audio (which needs to grow once I work
out the full list of words and phrases it needs and add the missing ones),
which I'd need to distribute .... somehow.

Cheers,

Ross



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Re: Heads up on my software

Ryan Daum
 

Does your editor also work with the 4-op TX series, TQ-5, etc?

I'm a Java developer also, I'd be willing to help out with both testing and development if you want.

I've got a DX200, FS1R, and TQ-5. ?The DX200 should act like a DX7 for testing, and it would be interesting to try to adapt your code to work with the latter two.

Ryan


On 31 August 2011 09:17, Ross Clement <rossclement@...> wrote:
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Yes, my DX7Editor is still coming along. A lot of stuff keeps getting added to it.

My initial plan was to release it without help files apart from a tutorial video. But, I've started writing help and in doing so I'm discovering bugs. So, rather frustrating for myself but I think I need to get the help written if only for the side effect of debugging.

I've spent a lot of time using it to program my TX7, and I feel that the program basically works well and makes it very easy to program DX/TX synths. A lot of the "additional" capabilities over and above just being able to change the parameters, such as extensive copy and paste of all sorts of different things, being able to save and load parts of voices, using the second window for "detailed" editing etc., seem to work very well in practice, and vastly ease programming.

Extensive (computer) keyboard control modes have been added. So, you can (more or less) just edit an attached DX7 by typing on the computer keyboard, through parameter shortcut codes and using the arrow keys to move around the parameters. In this mode the program reports on actions through built in speech. This part of the program isn't quite complete, with the main remaining problem being how to load and save patch banks through keyboard commands. But, I think I know how to do this and will have a crack at completing that bit soon. I found references to how to send custom MIDI commands to a synth in a past discussion on here, so I added a facility to create custom MIDI commands, which then appear in a menu. I've added a lot of things like that.

I did find some nasty bugs though. MIDI in Java on the mac doesn't work too well, which is a bit of a pain as I'm developing primarily on Mac OSX. I have a workaround, but didn't realise that the interface between the main program and the workaround bit sometimes merged MIDI messages, so that they didn't work as the workaround program would try to send (e.g.) a six byte MIDI message that wasn't recognised. Resulting in stuck notes on the TX and other problems. Fixed now, but that sort of thing is a nasty bug. I'd be very happy for a brave person to have a go using my software, if they promise not to judge it based on its current state :) There is no packaged installer, so any extremely early adopter would have to do things such as unzipping the help files and putting them in the correct directory.

Regards,

Ross Clement



Re: Heads up on my software

 

--- In YamahaDX@..., charlie 'chop' copp <charles.copp@...> wrote:

ross available for the pc too?

charles
It should run on the PC too, but I have never tested it. I'll take my TX7 into work today and give it a go.

To run my program on any machine, you have to have Java installed and it be set up to run .jar files. If Java is installed normally, you can run .jar files just by double clicking on them. I've put a test file up into that you or anyone could use to test if they have java installed and set up. Called "TestJar.jar". If you save this on your desktop and double click, it'll run and bring up a small window saying that you can run .jar files, or it won't. Could you please give that a test?

I've just tried on my Mac (OS X 10.6.8) and it runs a .jar file fine if double clicked, with just the standard java and java setup that comes with the operating system.

At present I have no installer. I can send a .jar file by normal email (don't want to upload one in public yet), but I will also have to send the help as a zip file that you'd have to extract. If you want the "speech" part of it, then that's a 15M zip file of audio (which needs to grow once I work out the full list of words and phrases it needs and add the missing ones), which I'd need to distribute .... somehow.

Cheers,

Ross


Re: Heads up on my software

 

ross available for the pc too?

charles

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Clement" <rossclement@...>
To: <YamahaDX@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:17 AM
Subject: [YamahaDX] Heads up on my software


Yes, my DX7Editor is still coming along. A lot of stuff keeps getting
added to it.

My initial plan was to release it without help files apart from a tutorial
video. But, I've started writing help and in doing so I'm discovering bugs.
So, rather frustrating for myself but I think I need to get the help written
if only for the side effect of debugging.

I've spent a lot of time using it to program my TX7, and I feel that the
program basically works well and makes it very easy to program DX/TX synths.
A lot of the "additional" capabilities over and above just being able to
change the parameters, such as extensive copy and paste of all sorts of
different things, being able to save and load parts of voices, using the
second window for "detailed" editing etc., seem to work very well in
practice, and vastly ease programming.

Extensive (computer) keyboard control modes have been added. So, you can
(more or less) just edit an attached DX7 by typing on the computer keyboard,
through parameter shortcut codes and using the arrow keys to move around the
parameters. In this mode the program reports on actions through built in
speech. This part of the program isn't quite complete, with the main
remaining problem being how to load and save patch banks through keyboard
commands. But, I think I know how to do this and will have a crack at
completing that bit soon. I found references to how to send custom MIDI
commands to a synth in a past discussion on here, so I added a facility to
create custom MIDI commands, which then appear in a menu. I've added a lot
of things like that.

I did find some nasty bugs though. MIDI in Java on the mac doesn't work
too well, which is a bit of a pain as I'm developing primarily on Mac OSX. I
have a workaround, but didn't realise that the interface between the main
program and the workaround bit sometimes merged MIDI messages, so that they
didn't work as the workaround program would try to send (e.g.) a six byte
MIDI message that wasn't recognised. Resulting in stuck notes on the TX and
other problems. Fixed now, but that sort of thing is a nasty bug. I'd be
very happy for a brave person to have a go using my software, if they
promise not to judge it based on its current state :) There is no packaged
installer, so any extremely early adopter would have to do things such as
unzipping the help files and putting them in the correct directory.

Regards,

Ross Clement



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Yahoo! Groups Links




Heads up on my software

 

Yes, my DX7Editor is still coming along. A lot of stuff keeps getting added to it.

My initial plan was to release it without help files apart from a tutorial video. But, I've started writing help and in doing so I'm discovering bugs. So, rather frustrating for myself but I think I need to get the help written if only for the side effect of debugging.

I've spent a lot of time using it to program my TX7, and I feel that the program basically works well and makes it very easy to program DX/TX synths. A lot of the "additional" capabilities over and above just being able to change the parameters, such as extensive copy and paste of all sorts of different things, being able to save and load parts of voices, using the second window for "detailed" editing etc., seem to work very well in practice, and vastly ease programming.

Extensive (computer) keyboard control modes have been added. So, you can (more or less) just edit an attached DX7 by typing on the computer keyboard, through parameter shortcut codes and using the arrow keys to move around the parameters. In this mode the program reports on actions through built in speech. This part of the program isn't quite complete, with the main remaining problem being how to load and save patch banks through keyboard commands. But, I think I know how to do this and will have a crack at completing that bit soon. I found references to how to send custom MIDI commands to a synth in a past discussion on here, so I added a facility to create custom MIDI commands, which then appear in a menu. I've added a lot of things like that.

I did find some nasty bugs though. MIDI in Java on the mac doesn't work too well, which is a bit of a pain as I'm developing primarily on Mac OSX. I have a workaround, but didn't realise that the interface between the main program and the workaround bit sometimes merged MIDI messages, so that they didn't work as the workaround program would try to send (e.g.) a six byte MIDI message that wasn't recognised. Resulting in stuck notes on the TX and other problems. Fixed now, but that sort of thing is a nasty bug. I'd be very happy for a brave person to have a go using my software, if they promise not to judge it based on its current state :) There is no packaged installer, so any extremely early adopter would have to do things such as unzipping the help files and putting them in the correct directory.

Regards,

Ross Clement


Re: Yamaha DX7 Mk1 w/ SuperMax arpeggiator "Sun Activity"

 

great song ,,spacey feeling and the sounds were something really cool

neat

nice

original !

charles

----- Original Message -----
From: "uldiszemzars" <uldiszemzars@...>
To: <YamahaDX@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:11 PM
Subject: [YamahaDX] Yamaha DX7 Mk1 w/ SuperMax arpeggiator "Sun Activity"


Here is my song - playing only Yamaha DX7 with SuperMax arpeggiator
(random). Patch is my programmed - Fripptrocic :)





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Yamaha DX7 Mk1 w/ SuperMax arpeggiator "Sun Activity"

uldiszemzars
 

Here is my song - playing only Yamaha DX7 with SuperMax arpeggiator (random). Patch is my programmed - Fripptrocic :)