Congrats on the new rig!? Great radio, but it has it's quirks.?
You've run into my #1 peeve.
There are two jacks on the back for interfacing with digital stuff.?
The DIN port is for VHF/UHF packet, and the TRS is for the HF
modes.? So if you have a single computer doing both with a sound
card, it will take some careful wiring with appropriate use of DC
blocking capacitors.? The issue is that the PTT functions for the
two are separate, and the radio is trying to be smart and only takes
audio from whichever port is being keyed.? And just to complicate
things further, the PTT on DIN is a single purpose pin, while PTT is
combined with the mike audio on the TRS.? To be fair, when the radio
was created, packet and HF modes were typically built into separate
boxes, and so I presume they were trying to make things easier for
us.? In the end, it turned out rather different.
Final warning, the CAT interface works well if you have the newer
version of the radio (do a search for the S/N boundary), but for
some reason I can't fathom, keying the rig with CAT takes audio from
the front mike connector.? That's the last place I'd expect audio to
be coming from if I key the radio from a computer.? You really need
to use the various PTT lines instead, as using the mike input in
order to use CAT has its own issues with setting the audio level.
Sorry, can't help on the Service menu.? Good luck!
Greg? KO6TH
Max Donoghue wrote:
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Hello to the group,
Just took delivery of an 847. Great radio.
I'm just in the process of getting everything hooked up, CAT,
digital modes etc. I plugged my signal lines into the DATA in/out
jack and for some reason the radio goes into TX mode. Have to look
into that. Question # 1: Can I use the PACKET jack for digital
modes such as FT8 or AFSK RTTY? Or is it strictly for packet
operation?
I'm trying to get into the service menu to align the shift control
as it sits at about 1 o'clock when both USB and LSB have the same
tone. I've tried the UP/DWN/FAST on the mic while turning on the
radio but the regular display just keeps coming up. The up and
down buttons are working fine on the mic, but when I press the
fast button, the FAST icon does not appear on the screen. Possibly
a bad wire inside the mic?? Should the FAST icon come on when
activating it from the mic?
Everything else appears to be fine, showing full power on HF, 6
and 2m. My 440 antenna has a PL259 on cable, working on getting an
adapter!
Any pointers appreciated.
Thank you,
Max VE3TMT
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Hi Max?
Regarding using data on the FT-847 its?a little bit complicated compared to more modern transceivers. As a rule of thumb you use the Packet port for FM based operation and the Data In/Out for AM/SSB
For the past 20 years I have used this home built interface based on the following which I think credit to VA3DH who came up with the design originally?for W95SSTV?software, on several FT-847's which gives all mode data :
In improving the PTT switching and?making electrically isolated totally radio from?computer you could adapt and use a 4N25 optocoupler in?place of the switching transistor.?
? I hope this is of use ?
Regards Ian G8ZHC
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 at 14:37, Max Donoghue < ve3tmt@...> wrote: Hello to the group,
Just took delivery of an 847. Great radio.
I'm just in the process of getting everything hooked up, CAT, digital modes etc. I plugged my signal lines into the DATA in/out jack and for some reason the radio goes into TX mode. Have to look into that. Question # 1: Can I use the PACKET jack for digital modes such as FT8 or AFSK RTTY? Or is it strictly for packet operation?
I'm trying to get into the service menu to align the shift control as it sits at about 1 o'clock when both USB and LSB have the same tone. I've tried the UP/DWN/FAST on the mic while turning on the radio but the regular display just keeps coming up. The up and down buttons are working fine on the mic, but when I press the fast button, the FAST icon does not appear on the screen. Possibly a bad wire inside the mic?? Should the FAST icon come on when activating it from the mic?
Everything else appears to be fine, showing full power on HF, 6 and 2m. My 440 antenna has a PL259 on cable, working on getting an adapter!
Any pointers appreciated.
Thank you,
Max VE3TMT
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Hello to the group,
Just took delivery of an 847. Great radio.
I'm just in the process of getting everything hooked up, CAT, digital modes etc. I plugged my signal lines into the DATA in/out jack and for some reason the radio goes into TX mode. Have to look into that. Question # 1: Can I use the PACKET jack for digital modes such as FT8 or AFSK RTTY? Or is it strictly for packet operation?
I'm trying to get into the service menu to align the shift control as it sits at about 1 o'clock when both USB and LSB have the same tone. I've tried the UP/DWN/FAST on the mic while turning on the radio but the regular display just keeps coming up. The up and down buttons are working fine on the mic, but when I press the fast button, the FAST icon does not appear on the screen. Possibly a bad wire inside the mic?? Should the FAST icon come on when activating it from the mic?
Everything else appears to be fine, showing full power on HF, 6 and 2m. My 440 antenna has a PL259 on cable, working on getting an adapter!
Any pointers appreciated.
Thank you,
Max VE3TMT
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Re: My FT-847 won't transmit on 80m
Ha!? Thanks, didn't see that before.
Greg? KO6TH
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Hi Greg, check the Group Files section, there is a folder there - FT847 Mods - in there you will find a Yeasu datasheet on frequency mods, it extends the range of the set. i uploaded it quite a while ago to the original Yahoo Group.
Leighton. GW3FSP.
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Thanks Vic. Something in my head says I should have thought of that myself.?
Dennis VE3XC
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Hi Greg, check the Group Files section, there is a folder there - FT847 Mods - in there you will find a Yeasu datasheet on frequency mods, it extends the range of the set. i uploaded it quite a while ago to the original Yahoo Group.
Leighton. GW3FSP.
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Re: My FT-847 won't transmit on 80m
Out of band mod?? I wasn't aware that there were any such mods for
the radio (e.g. to get it to Tx on the WARC bands)...
Greg? KO6TH
Dave K?EKL wrote:
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Thanks for the replies. I have not yet fully unpacked the truck
from Field Day. When I do bring the radio back into the shack I'll
try a full reset, try transmitting on freqs across the 80m band
and then perhaps try the out of band mod.
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Re: My FT-847 won't transmit on 80m
Thanks for the replies. I have not yet fully unpacked the truck from Field Day. When I do bring the radio back into the shack I'll try a full reset, try transmitting on freqs across the 80m band and then perhaps try the out of band mod.
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You can not I meant to say. ? It is expecting to be full duplex and can’t if tx and rx is on the same band.?
On Monday, June 27, 2022, 5:13 PM, vstockma@... <vstockma@...> wrote:
You can use the sub on the same band. You have to use split a/b vfo.? Satpc32 help file explains what to do for ISS etc.? Vic? On Monday, June 27, 2022, 5:03 PM, Dennis Surek via groups.io <dsurek@...> wrote: Field Day really brings out the problems. I have 2 FT-847's. One belongs to the Club which I cloned to be the same as mine. For the ISS V/v frequencies, both do the same thing. Main vfo shows 145.850, sub vfo shows 144.490. Press the PTT and the sub vfo shows error on both rigs. All the other sat pairs are fine. So this problem in on my list of troubleshooting jobs.? 73 de VE3XC
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You can use the sub on the same band. You have to use split a/b vfo.? Satpc32 help file explains what to do for ISS etc.?
On Monday, June 27, 2022, 5:03 PM, Dennis Surek via groups.io <dsurek@...> wrote: Field Day really brings out the problems. I have 2 FT-847's. One belongs to the Club which I cloned to be the same as mine. For the ISS V/v frequencies, both do the same thing. Main vfo shows 145.850, sub vfo shows 144.490. Press the PTT and the sub vfo shows error on both rigs. All the other sat pairs are fine. So this problem in on my list of troubleshooting jobs.? 73 de VE3XC
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Re: My FT-847 won't transmit on 80m
Try wide banding it then a reset, failing that? as these radios are rather old, so perform an alignment, this should sort it out.
BR
Andrew
If you can not perform this? then I can
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Field Day really brings out the problems. I have 2 FT-847's. One belongs to the Club which I cloned to be the same as mine. For the ISS V/v frequencies, both do the same thing. Main vfo shows 145.850, sub vfo shows 144.490. Press the PTT and the sub vfo shows error on both rigs. All the other sat pairs are fine. So this problem in on my list of troubleshooting jobs.? 73 de VE3XC
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Did you perform a memory clear all reset? On Monday, June 27, 2022, 4:04 PM, Dave K?EKL <k0ekl@...> wrote: I have an 847 that I use almost exclusively for VHF/UHF week signal work and for satellites but it got pressed into service for our local club's Field Day this last weekend.
It performed perfectly on 10, 15, 20, and 40 but when trying to transmit on 80 meters the display reads "ERROR". This happens whether the radio is set for CW, SSB, AM or FM and it doesn't seem to matter is PTT is asserted via the DATA IN or PKT connectors, the footswitch connector, or the front panel mic connector. Again, only 80m is effected.?
I know from reviewing the manual that the radio will display ERROR if one tries to transmit out of band but I was testing on 3.850 MHz.?
Has anyone seen this before and if so what's the resolution?
Thanks de K?EKL
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Did you perform a memory clear all reset?
On Monday, June 27, 2022, 4:04 PM, Dave K?EKL <k0ekl@...> wrote: I have an 847 that I use almost exclusively for VHF/UHF week signal work and for satellites but it got pressed into service for our local club's Field Day this last weekend.
It performed perfectly on 10, 15, 20, and 40 but when trying to transmit on 80 meters the display reads "ERROR". This happens whether the radio is set for CW, SSB, AM or FM and it doesn't seem to matter is PTT is asserted via the DATA IN or PKT connectors, the footswitch connector, or the front panel mic connector. Again, only 80m is effected.?
I know from reviewing the manual that the radio will display ERROR if one tries to transmit out of band but I was testing on 3.850 MHz.?
Has anyone seen this before and if so what's the resolution?
Thanks de K?EKL
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Hi, That suggests to me that it’s UK model… our ?80mtr band stops at 3.8Mhz...
73 de Frank, M0AEU
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On 27 Jun 2022, at 21:00, Dave K?EKL < k0ekl@...> wrote:
I have an 847 that I use almost exclusively for VHF/UHF week signal work and for satellites but it got pressed into service for our local club's Field Day this last weekend.
It performed perfectly on 10, 15, 20, and 40 but when trying to transmit on 80 meters the display reads "ERROR". This happens whether the radio is set for CW, SSB, AM or FM and it doesn't seem to matter is PTT is asserted via the DATA IN or PKT connectors, the footswitch connector, or the front panel mic connector. Again, only 80m is effected.?
I know from reviewing the manual that the radio will display ERROR if one tries to transmit out of band but I was testing on 3.850 MHz.?
Has anyone seen this before and if so what's the resolution?
Thanks de K?EKL
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My FT-847 won't transmit on 80m
I have an 847 that I use almost exclusively for VHF/UHF week signal work and for satellites but it got pressed into service for our local club's Field Day this last weekend.
It performed perfectly on 10, 15, 20, and 40 but when trying to transmit on 80 meters the display reads "ERROR". This happens whether the radio is set for CW, SSB, AM or FM and it doesn't seem to matter is PTT is asserted via the DATA IN or PKT connectors, the footswitch connector, or the front panel mic connector. Again, only 80m is effected.?
I know from reviewing the manual that the radio will display ERROR if one tries to transmit out of band but I was testing on 3.850 MHz.?
Has anyone seen this before and if so what's the resolution?
Thanks de K?EKL
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Re: Using FT-847 as an oscillator for practice
Just to put my two pennies worth in!
? What key will you be using? Iambic, swipe or straight? If you going to use a DL then I like to use a 600hz side tone (menu 6) as it always felt nicer on the ear, just my preference. Find the monitor setting on the FT847 and use that to adjust your output volume (mine is at 25, side tone menu 8). Set the weight to something that resembles clear dashes and not long ones (maybe worth consulting the “fists” on that) but mines at 3.0 (menu 7). Adjust the delay..... that I would say is quite important. Longer the better for practice as you won’t be interested in QSK break in while practicing and I think 300ms is the longest the rig allows. When driving an transistorised amplifier I find the delay at 300ms still too short as I’m not really expecting break in and I’m not exactly fast so find the carrier dropping in and out in between sentences (menu 9 maximum 300ms). Im sure people will say the opposite and use 10ms as it doesn’t drive the PA as hard but at 5w into a DL I would rather not switch so often and I guess it’s driving my VL1000 and hearing the chattering relays..... sends a shiver down my spine..Naturally you have the speed on the front panel so adjust accordingly.
? Also don’t forget to use the monitor button on the front panel above RF/AF or you won’t hear your side tone and process/keyer button next to it or you won’t have control over the speed and automatic dots and dashes. I use an Iambic key (Kent) and the keyer button give me automatically generated dots and dashes..... lazy I know. Won’t make a difference on a straight key.
? ?These are my preferences and only a guide but you can adjust yours to suit.
Good luck and hope to catch you in my log soon.
De Spence M0STO? Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
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On 12 May 2022, at 21:12, Micky Corrow via < opus@...> wrote: Yes you can use your rig.
You are correct in that you can use a dummy load.
Just be sure to connect it to the correct antenna port.
Be sure to turn the power all the way down.
Micky K1XH
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Yes you can use your rig.
You are correct in that you can use a dummy load.
Just be sure to connect it to the correct antenna port.
Be sure to turn the power all the way down.
Micky K1XH
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Re: Using FT-847 as an oscillator for practice
Try this one.
Again, gook luck and have fun
On 5/12/2022 3:32 PM, Douglas Richards
wrote:
The 555 timer can be built? with small components? to
build? an oscillator.?
Google? Morse code practice? oscillator? and 555 timer
chip.
Good luck.
Douglas?
Hi Douglas,
I am not sure I understand
about using a timer chip.
Is this something that needs
to be added to the radio?
I get the impression that the
FT-847 cannot be used for practice.
What if I directed the signal
into a dummy load?
Steven/kc3dow
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Douglas Richards VE3FFR
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