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I just got my tech license recently, and purchased a Yaesu FT-60R portable radio. I read and followed the instructions thoroughly with respect to locating active repeater frequencies in the 2M/70cm bands. I successfully located several repeaters in my locality.
Upon tuning into an active repeater, the radio automatically detects the input/output frequencies. Then I decode and save the proper PL tone. So far so good. The problem is...when I key the mic to politely say "KC2NLB listening" or "This is KC2NLB, anyone else on frequency?" nobody seems to hear anything I say. At first, I thought perhaps they were ignoring me. At best, I heard stations say "Station trying to get in...I'm not copying any of your audio, just empty carrier".
So in an attempt to figure out what was going on...I turned on my Uniden scanner and tuned it to the same repeater I was trying to transmit into with my Yaesu. It was then that I noticed...the stations were right. When I keyed up and said "KC2NLB testing", all to be heard was a silent carrier followed by the repeater courtesy tone. No voice whatsoever was coming out on the repeater's output frequency.
I tuned my Uniden scanner to the repeater's uplink frequency and I did notice that I was coming over loud and clear when I keyed the Yaesu up on the uplink.
I have a feeling this is all caused by some minor mistake on my part...and I'd really appreciate a pointer in the right direction...thanks.
Dora
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Dora -
That's a good one. You hear yourself on the scanner, so that means that you are modulating. You can kerchunk the repeater, so that means the PL tone and frequency is good. Nobody can hear you, yet you can hear everybody else. I would try more that one repeater if you can.
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original Message-----
From: Dora Tamilta via groups.io <doratamilta@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2020 7:00 am
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Question
I just got my tech license recently, and purchased a Yaesu FT-60R portable radio. I read and followed the instructions thoroughly with respect to locating active repeater frequencies in the 2M/70cm bands. I successfully located several repeaters in my locality.
Upon tuning into an active repeater, the radio automatically detects the input/output frequencies. Then I decode and save the proper PL tone. So far so good. The problem is...when I key the mic to politely say "KC2NLB listening" or "This is KC2NLB, anyone else on frequency?" nobody seems to hear anything I say. At first, I thought perhaps they were ignoring me. At best, I heard stations say "Station trying to get in...I'm not copying any of your audio, just empty carrier".
So in an attempt to figure out what was going on...I turned on my Uniden scanner and tuned it to the same repeater I was trying to transmit into with my Yaesu. It was then that I noticed...the stations were right. When I keyed up and said "KC2NLB testing", all to be heard was a silent carrier followed by the repeater courtesy tone. No voice whatsoever was coming out on the repeater's output frequency.
I tuned my Uniden scanner to the repeater's uplink frequency and I did notice that I was coming over loud and clear when I keyed the Yaesu up on the uplink.
I have a feeling this is all caused by some minor mistake on my part...and I'd really appreciate a pointer in the right direction...thanks.
Dora
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Look up a repeater directory app on your phone, tablet or computer and check the input tones. Some repeaters require one.
73, John N4SME
On Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 08:51:26 AM EDT, Randolph Urick via groups.io <raurick@...> wrote:
Dora -
That's a good one. You hear yourself on the scanner, so that means that you are modulating. You can kerchunk the repeater, so that means the PL tone and frequency is good. Nobody can hear you, yet you can hear everybody else. I would try more that one repeater if you can.
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original Message-----
From: Dora Tamilta via groups.io <doratamilta@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2020 7:00 am
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Question
I just got my tech license recently, and purchased a Yaesu FT-60R portable radio. I read and followed the instructions thoroughly with respect to locating active repeater frequencies in the 2M/70cm bands. I successfully located several repeaters in my locality.
Upon tuning into an active repeater, the radio automatically detects the input/output frequencies. Then I decode and save the proper PL tone. So far so good. The problem is...when I key the mic to politely say "KC2NLB listening" or "This is KC2NLB, anyone else on frequency?" nobody seems to hear anything I say. At first, I thought perhaps they were ignoring me. At best, I heard stations say "Station trying to get in...I'm not copying any of your audio, just empty carrier".
So in an attempt to figure out what was going on...I turned on my Uniden scanner and tuned it to the same repeater I was trying to transmit into with my Yaesu. It was then that I noticed...the stations were right. When I keyed up and said "KC2NLB testing", all to be heard was a silent carrier followed by the repeater courtesy tone. No voice whatsoever was coming out on the repeater's output frequency.
I tuned my Uniden scanner to the repeater's uplink frequency and I did notice that I was coming over loud and clear when I keyed the Yaesu up on the uplink.
I have a feeling this is all caused by some minor mistake on my part...and I'd really appreciate a pointer in the right direction...thanks.
Dora
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Congrats on getting your license Dora!
That is very odd - clearly you're getting out. I agree with Randy, try other repeaters and try simplex. Do you belong to a local club, or know of any local hams who can help you?
73!
-Brian n8wrl
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 8:50 AM Randolph Urick via <raurick= [email protected]> wrote:
Dora -
That's a good one. You hear yourself on the scanner, so that means that you are modulating. You can kerchunk the repeater, so that means the PL tone and frequency is good. Nobody can hear you, yet you can hear everybody else. I would try more that one repeater if you can.
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original Message-----
From: Dora Tamilta via <doratamilta= [email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2020 7:00 am
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Question
I just got my tech license recently, and purchased a Yaesu FT-60R portable radio. I read and followed the instructions thoroughly with respect to locating active repeater frequencies in the 2M/70cm bands. I successfully located several repeaters in my locality.
Upon tuning into an active repeater, the radio automatically detects the input/output frequencies. Then I decode and save the proper PL tone. So far so good. The problem is...when I key the mic to politely say "KC2NLB listening" or "This is KC2NLB, anyone else on frequency?" nobody seems to hear anything I say. At first, I thought perhaps they were ignoring me. At best, I heard stations say "Station trying to get in...I'm not copying any of your audio, just empty carrier".
So in an attempt to figure out what was going on...I turned on my Uniden scanner and tuned it to the same repeater I was trying to transmit into with my Yaesu. It was then that I noticed...the stations were right. When I keyed up and said "KC2NLB testing", all to be heard was a silent carrier followed by the repeater courtesy tone. No voice whatsoever was coming out on the repeater's output frequency.
I tuned my Uniden scanner to the repeater's uplink frequency and I did notice that I was coming over loud and clear when I keyed the Yaesu up on the uplink.
I have a feeling this is all caused by some minor mistake on my part...and I'd really appreciate a pointer in the right direction...thanks.
Dora
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It sounds like she's getting into the machine. Others say they can hear the machine key up but not her voice. At first I thought it might be mic gain or something simple like that but since she can hear herself on the input frequency I'm not sure. I do think trying another repeater and/or finding a friend?to test simplex is the way to go.
73!
-Brian n8wrl
Look up a repeater directory app on your phone, tablet or computer and check the input tones. Some repeaters require one.
73, John N4SME
On Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 08:51:26 AM EDT, Randolph Urick via <raurick= [email protected]> wrote:
Dora -
That's a good one. You hear yourself on the scanner, so that means that you are modulating. You can kerchunk the repeater, so that means the PL tone and frequency is good. Nobody can hear you, yet you can hear everybody else. I would try more that one repeater if you can.
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original Message-----
From: Dora Tamilta via <doratamilta= [email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2020 7:00 am
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Question
I just got my tech license recently, and purchased a Yaesu FT-60R portable radio. I read and followed the instructions thoroughly with respect to locating active repeater frequencies in the 2M/70cm bands. I successfully located several repeaters in my locality.
Upon tuning into an active repeater, the radio automatically detects the input/output frequencies. Then I decode and save the proper PL tone. So far so good. The problem is...when I key the mic to politely say "KC2NLB listening" or "This is KC2NLB, anyone else on frequency?" nobody seems to hear anything I say. At first, I thought perhaps they were ignoring me. At best, I heard stations say "Station trying to get in...I'm not copying any of your audio, just empty carrier".
So in an attempt to figure out what was going on...I turned on my Uniden scanner and tuned it to the same repeater I was trying to transmit into with my Yaesu. It was then that I noticed...the stations were right. When I keyed up and said "KC2NLB testing", all to be heard was a silent carrier followed by the repeater courtesy tone. No voice whatsoever was coming out on the repeater's output frequency.
I tuned my Uniden scanner to the repeater's uplink frequency and I did notice that I was coming over loud and clear when I keyed the Yaesu up on the uplink.
I have a feeling this is all caused by some minor mistake on my part...and I'd really appreciate a pointer in the right direction...thanks.
Dora
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Dora, Oddly I get your call assigned to a different name on QRZ. And it is still active. Curious minds want to know.
Rudi wa2nub
On Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 8:14:56 AM EDT, Dora Tamilta via groups.io <doratamilta@...> wrote:
I just got my tech license recently, and purchased a Yaesu FT-60R portable radio. I read and followed the instructions thoroughly with respect to locating active repeater frequencies in the 2M/70cm bands. I successfully located several repeaters in my locality.
Upon tuning into an active repeater, the radio automatically detects the input/output frequencies. Then I decode and save the proper PL tone. So far so good. The problem is...when I key the mic to politely say "KC2NLB listening" or "This is KC2NLB, anyone else on frequency?" nobody seems to hear anything I say. At first, I thought perhaps they were ignoring me. At best, I heard stations say "Station trying to get in...I'm not copying any of your audio, just empty carrier".
So in an attempt to figure out what was going on...I turned on my Uniden scanner and tuned it to the same repeater I was trying to transmit into with my Yaesu. It was then that I noticed...the stations were right. When I keyed up and said "KC2NLB testing", all to be heard was a silent carrier followed by the repeater courtesy tone. No voice whatsoever was coming out on the repeater's output frequency.
I tuned my Uniden scanner to the repeater's uplink frequency and I did notice that I was coming over loud and clear when I keyed the Yaesu up on the uplink.
I have a feeling this is all caused by some minor mistake on my part...and I'd really appreciate a pointer in the right direction...thanks.
Dora
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She might be hitting the repeater but might be too noisy to hear. Too far away but able to key it. Listen to the repeater output with the scanner?
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I checked the listing directly on the FCC License Check Website. ?It is listed as issued in 2015?
Dora, ?did you mistype your call sign? ?If not I would suggest the VEC team at the organization sponsor of your license exam session on what to do. They can also provide hands on help to your questions.
Repeater book is also a very good resource. ?You have a great handheld and I like mine.
Hints: ?? Repeaters are vertically polarized, ?so hold your handheld with a rubber duck antenna vertical to match. ?
Build a quick 1/4 wave (2 meter) vertical with an SO-239 and 5 20 inch lengths of wire. ?Mine is AGW 14. ? You can check the article on the ARRL magazine ?“One the Air” ?You can find numerous articles on the internet. ?It works on 2 meters and 70 centimeters. ?Mine is outside. ?(Someone in my home did not appreciate my attempts at interior decorating) You can use it inside, if your home or apartment is wood stud construction. Higher is better, ?so a small cup hook in the ceiling will support it. ?Mine is in the top of a 3/4 ?PVC water pipe. It is attached to the fascia board on the side of the roof and is 12 feet about the ground.
Use Repeater Book to locate the repeaters. ?Drive by the repeater. ?Use the app for your phone QTH. ? (Location). ?It will give your the Long and Lat and more important the altitude. Use the at home and compare the relative altitudes. ?Allow for hills in between. ?2 Meter VHF is Line of sight. ?FT-60 is transmitting at 5 watts. ?The Repeater is probably 20-40 watts. ?You may be able to hear it, but 5watts has trouble getting through. 73
ZEoZUW ?John
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On Jun 10, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Rudi via < wa2nub@...> wrote:
Dora, Oddly I get your call assigned to a different name on QRZ. And it is still active. Curious minds want to know.
Rudi wa2nub
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If you were scanning for PL tones on page 24 then you need to change the tone from tsq back? to tone.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 7:17 AM John Nicholas < stnick@...> wrote: I checked the listing directly on the FCC License Check Website.? It is listed as issued in 2015?
Dora, ?did you mistype your call sign?? If not I would suggest the VEC team at the organization sponsor of your license exam session on what to do. They can also provide hands on help to your questions.
Repeater book is also a very good resource.? You have a great handheld and I like mine.
Hints: ?? Repeaters are vertically polarized, ?so hold your handheld with a rubber duck antenna vertical to match. ?
Build a quick 1/4 wave (2 meter) vertical with an SO-239 and 5 20 inch lengths of wire.? Mine is AGW 14. ? You can check the article on the ARRL magazine ?“One the Air” ?You can find numerous articles on the internet.? It works on 2 meters and 70 centimeters.? Mine is outside. ?(Someone in my home did not appreciate my attempts at interior decorating) You can use it inside, if your home or apartment is wood stud construction. Higher is better, ?so a small cup hook in the ceiling will support it.? Mine is in the top of a 3/4 ?PVC water pipe. It is attached to the fascia board on the side of the roof and is 12 feet about the ground.
Use Repeater Book to locate the repeaters.? Drive by the repeater.? Use the app for your phone QTH. ? (Location).? It will give your the Long and Lat and more important the altitude. Use the at home and compare the relative altitudes.? Allow for hills in between. ?2 Meter VHF is Line of sight.? FT-60 is transmitting at 5 watts.? The Repeater is probably 20-40 watts.? You may be able to hear it, but 5watts has trouble getting through. 73
ZEoZUW ?John On Jun 10, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Rudi via < wa2nub@...> wrote:
Dora, Oddly I get your call assigned to a different name on QRZ. And it is still active. Curious minds want to know.
Rudi wa2nub
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?Heck to see if you have the WIRES function active. Look for what looks like a Atom symbol on the screen. If it is active, the radio would put out an audible tone at first and cut off the first part of any voice transmitted. With such short transmissions, you wouldn’t hear anything. ?Try transmitting for a longer period of time. ?? Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
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On Jun 10, 2020, at 06:55, Brian Smithson <brianesmithson@...> wrote:
? It sounds like she's getting into the machine. Others say they can hear the machine key up but not her voice. At first I thought it might be mic gain or something simple like that but since she can hear herself on the input frequency I'm not sure. I do think trying another repeater and/or finding a friend?to test simplex is the way to go.
73!
-Brian n8wrl
Look up a repeater directory app on your phone, tablet or computer and check the input tones. Some repeaters require one.
73, John N4SME
On Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 08:51:26 AM EDT, Randolph Urick via <raurick= [email protected]> wrote:
Dora -
That's a good one. You hear yourself on the scanner, so that means that you are modulating. You can kerchunk the repeater, so that means the PL tone and frequency is good. Nobody can hear you, yet you can hear everybody else. I would try more that one repeater if you can.
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original Message-----
From: Dora Tamilta via <doratamilta= [email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2020 7:00 am
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Question
I just got my tech license recently, and purchased a Yaesu FT-60R portable radio. I read and followed the instructions thoroughly with respect to locating active repeater frequencies in the 2M/70cm bands. I successfully located several repeaters in my locality.
Upon tuning into an active repeater, the radio automatically detects the input/output frequencies. Then I decode and save the proper PL tone. So far so good. The problem is...when I key the mic to politely say "KC2NLB listening" or "This is KC2NLB, anyone else on frequency?" nobody seems to hear anything I say. At first, I thought perhaps they were ignoring me. At best, I heard stations say "Station trying to get in...I'm not copying any of your audio, just empty carrier".
So in an attempt to figure out what was going on...I turned on my Uniden scanner and tuned it to the same repeater I was trying to transmit into with my Yaesu. It was then that I noticed...the stations were right. When I keyed up and said "KC2NLB testing", all to be heard was a silent carrier followed by the repeater courtesy tone. No voice whatsoever was coming out on the repeater's output frequency.
I tuned my Uniden scanner to the repeater's uplink frequency and I did notice that I was coming over loud and clear when I keyed the Yaesu up on the uplink.
I have a feeling this is all caused by some minor mistake on my part...and I'd really appreciate a pointer in the right direction...thanks.
Dora
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Thank you Randy. I will try other repeaters.
Dora
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Dora,
If other repeaters act the same way, I would do a Factory Reset. You will lose all data you input but also eliminate the possibility that the software was corrupted. I’ve found that illogical radio behavior can be due to insane software. The?
Rick
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On Jun 10, 2020, at 5:50 AM, Randolph Urick via groups.io <raurick@...> wrote:
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Dora -
That's a good one. You hear yourself on the scanner, so that means that you are modulating. You can kerchunk the repeater, so that means the PL tone and frequency is good. Nobody can hear you, yet you can hear everybody else. I would try more that one repeater if you can.
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original Message-----
From: Dora Tamilta via groups.io <doratamilta@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2020 7:00 am
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Question
I just got my tech license recently, and purchased a Yaesu FT-60R portable radio. I read and followed the instructions thoroughly with respect to locating active repeater frequencies in the 2M/70cm bands. I successfully located several repeaters in my locality.
Upon tuning into an active repeater, the radio automatically detects the input/output frequencies. Then I decode and save the proper PL tone. So far so good. The problem is...when I key the mic to politely say "KC2NLB listening" or "This is KC2NLB, anyone else on frequency?" nobody seems to hear anything I say. At first, I thought perhaps they were ignoring me. At best, I heard stations say "Station trying to get in...I'm not copying any of your audio, just empty carrier".
So in an attempt to figure out what was going on...I turned on my Uniden scanner and tuned it to the same repeater I was trying to transmit into with my Yaesu. It was then that I noticed...the stations were right. When I keyed up and said "KC2NLB testing", all to be heard was a silent carrier followed by the repeater courtesy tone. No voice whatsoever was coming out on the repeater's output frequency.
I tuned my Uniden scanner to the repeater's uplink frequency and I did notice that I was coming over loud and clear when I keyed the Yaesu up on the uplink.
I have a feeling this is all caused by some minor mistake on my part...and I'd really appreciate a pointer in the right direction...thanks.
Dora
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I just went thru this same drill when our club implemented a PL tone after moving our repeater to a higher location. Everything checks out but no voice heard, just a carrier. Assuming you’ve verified that you have set Tone to on, and verified the Tone is the correct frequency, you may just be too far from the repeater.? Remember you can hear the repeater from a much greater distance than you can transmit to it, depending on a number of factors such as the height of the repeaters antenna, your height, local terrain, etc. in my case, moving closer to the repeater allows me to be heard. I have a big hill between us which blocks my transmission. Users who are many miles farther than me from the repeater can hit it with no problem, including one guy with an FT-60 who’s about 10 miles farther out than me. However, he’s located on the side of a small mountain, not in a low area like I am.
Hope this helps, Lou KN4IJC?
On Wednesday, June 10, 2020, Dora Tamilta via <doratamilta= [email protected]> wrote: I just got my tech license recently, and purchased a Yaesu FT-60R portable radio. I read and followed the instructions thoroughly with respect to locating active repeater frequencies in the 2M/70cm bands. I successfully located several repeaters in my locality.
Upon tuning into an active repeater, the radio automatically detects the input/output frequencies. Then I decode and save the proper PL tone. So far so good. The problem is...when I key the mic to politely say "KC2NLB listening" or "This is KC2NLB, anyone else on frequency?" nobody seems to hear anything I say. At first, I thought perhaps they were ignoring me. At best, I heard stations say "Station trying to get in...I'm not copying any of your audio, just empty carrier".
So in an attempt to figure out what was going on...I turned on my Uniden scanner and tuned it to the same repeater I was trying to transmit into with my Yaesu. It was then that I noticed...the stations were right. When I keyed up and said "KC2NLB testing", all to be heard was a silent carrier followed by the repeater courtesy tone. No voice whatsoever was coming out on the repeater's output frequency.
I tuned my Uniden scanner to the repeater's uplink frequency and I did notice that I was coming over loud and clear when I keyed the Yaesu up on the uplink.
I have a feeling this is all caused by some minor mistake on my part...and I'd really appreciate a pointer in the right direction...thanks.
Dora
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One simple thing to check is whether the FT-60 battery is charged. If the battery is down, you might be able to transmit enough signal to pop squelch on the repeater, and certainly be received on a scanner within arms-reach, but not able to muster enough signal to get audio through to the repeater.
Rick
KK6WHJ
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Also, set power to “HIGH” if it isn’t already - press FW, then 3, and turn the dial until HIGH appears.
Rick
KK6WHJ
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On Jun 10, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Rick Levine <rick@...> wrote:
One simple thing to check is whether the FT-60 battery is charged. If the battery is down, you might be able to transmit enough signal to pop squelch on the repeater, and certainly be received on a scanner within arms-reach, but not able to muster enough signal to get audio through to the repeater.
Rick
KK6WHJ
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That's not really how the radio works. The big current draw item is the power transmit section. If there is enough juice in the battery to transmit, then there is enough juice to modulate.
Randy
N4QWK
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From: Rick Levine <rick@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2020 8:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Question
One simple thing to check is whether the FT-60 battery is charged. If the battery is down, you might be able to transmit enough signal to pop squelch on the repeater, and certainly be received on a scanner within arms-reach, but not able to muster enough signal to get audio through to the repeater.
Rick
KK6WHJ
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Thanks for the correction!
Rick
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On Jun 10, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Randolph Urick via < raurick@...> wrote:
That's not really how the radio works. The big current draw item is the power transmit section. If there is enough juice in the battery to transmit, then there is enough juice to modulate.
Randy
N4QWK
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Hi, Dora.
Is it possible that the repeater output has a tone that needs to be decoded to open up the audio, rather than simply on the input?? In my area we use the encode/decode option, meaning that not only do you have to enter a PL tone for the input side, but also for the output side of the repeater.? The reason we do end/dec is because we have two repeaters well away from us (including a digital repeater) that used to blast right into our radios with noise or conversations in other cities when the atmospherics were just right to cause FM ducting.? Until we put the decode PL tone into the repeater and our radios there were occasions when our club members simply turned their radios off, or listened to repeaters other than our main repeater.? This helped dramatically, so perhaps your repeater does the same with the ENC/DEC feature, or your radio may have the wrong PL tone set.? Since your scanner can hear the input side but not the repeater output side I am suspecting a PL tone issue more than anything.
73
Jim Quinn
AJ1MQ
Longview, TX
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So, if you are not monitoring “open tone,” you can key up and accidentally interfere with that other system - because you cannot hear if comms are occurring?
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Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com
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This information is in RepeaterBook. If it comes through the listserv, here is a shot of the repeater entry ?just S of my QTH.
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Is it possible that the repeater output has a tone that needs to be decoded to open up the audio, rather than simply on the input?? In my area we use the encode/decode option, meaning that not only do you have to enter a PL tone for the input side, but also for the output side of the repeater.?
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Dora Tamilta
Richard W4MCD in NC
John Nicholas
Rick Levine
Clint Bradford