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Re: Backorder on YD6016LN-CS

 

As an alternative:
If you already have a YD6016LN-CS and want to place another one within a meter of it, take a look at the YD6016ES-CS. You would need an ES link such as the YD6902ES-Ext but it turns out a little cheaper than the YD6016LN-CS and will function the same.
Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

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Apologies Andrew I use 16/0.2 wire if that helps - I¡¯ve checked for any voltage drop - I do get a little but so far all good

John

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On 24 Mar 2024, at 21:47, John Critchley <john.critchley.home@...> wrote:

?No Andrew

Max length 5m and nothing to report ¡­¡­.yet

John
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On 24 Mar 2024, at 21:12, Andrew Jebb <a.jebb@...> wrote:

?John
Do you not get any feedback problems due to cable lengths with the? 4088s being so far from the track berths?
Andrew

Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

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No Andrew

Max length 5m and nothing to report ¡­¡­.yet

John
XR

On 24 Mar 2024, at 21:12, Andrew Jebb <a.jebb@...> wrote:

?John
Do you not get any feedback problems due to cable lengths with the? 4088s being so far from the track berths?
Andrew

Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

John
Do you not get any feedback problems due to cable lengths with the? 4088s being so far from the track berths?
Andrew
Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

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Thank you Karst?

That very positive response will now spur me on to complete the upper deck of the layout?

Much appreciated?

Johnx


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On 24 Mar 2024, at 14:57, sotars via groups.io <acthomson@...> wrote:

?Thanks Karst.

Kind Regards
Alex

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Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

Thanks Karst.

Kind Regards
Alex
Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 02:21 PM, sotars wrote:
Karst I am confused by your comment below as I do not have any DR5088C units. ?That is Reded

Sorry, excuse me. I read it wrongly.

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Greets,

Karst
Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 06:45 AM, John Critchley wrote:
1 - 8 via the Loconet T on the Z21
2 - 8 via the RoSoft (1) stand-alone USB?
3 -?8 via the RoSoft (2) stand-alone USB?

No second thoughts about that (y) should work nicely !

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Very nice cabinets by the way !!

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Greets,

Karst
Re: Availability

 

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 02:08 AM, <colinayres1@...> wrote:
But does a business just not scale up production and it's supply network when it knows its onto a winner?

Well, I think we have seen a pretty nasty example of blindly scaling-up with, a.o. literally tonnes of foreign money... If I remember well that company also originated from The Netherlands ;)?

Well, that company went pretty quickly bankrupt as soon as it hit supply problems...

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We choose to grow in a different way, organicly as they call it. We are independant of foreign money and want to keep it like that.?

We are convince that that is the way to go. The way to stay in business for a long time. Thus serving our custyomers better, more reliably and longer.

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Greets,

Karst

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P.S. If you all would be be willing to pay double the price, we might get there much sooner :D :D :D?
Re: Availability

 

All true Iain (y)

And generally spoken a real pain in th a$$.

But good news. We have been able to up-scale the YD9401 production. First we had to tackle the automated production. Which we did by designing and manufaturing special, custom parts for the P&P machine.

Secondly, we had to get through the supply shortage of the genuine ESP32 ( cheap copies gave us many troubles in last autumn :( )? ... That has been solved now since yesterday :D :D?

From now on we are able to buy them in Full Reel quantities. Which we did.

So within 4 - 6 weeks, all backlogs for the YD9401 should be history ( unless the demand againg doubles or triples, like it did last spring... )

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Greets,

Karst
Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

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Hi there?

I have 24 detection modules?
DR4088LN CS - 4 of which are the Yamorc equivalent

I have been aware of the max 10 on any Loconet from Iain Morrison- who has given me some great advice over time - although I am still building the layout I have planned to split the Loconet into 3

1 - 8 via the Loconet T on the Z21
2 - 8 via the RoSoft (1) stand-alone USB?
3 -?8 via the RoSoft (2) stand-alone USB?

I use iTrain and have created 2x USB interfaces in the software for relevant units

Am I going to have problems with this? - I have had a mock-up and it seemed to work from what I could see

I¡¯ve appended my cabinet I¡¯ve made as a photo to this fyi

Karst I¡¯d love to hear your response to this work around

Thanks John C

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On 23 Mar 2024, at 21:21, sotars via groups.io <acthomson@...> wrote:

?Karst I am confused by your comment below as I do not have any DR5088C units. ?That is Reded

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 08:29 AM, sotars wrote:
That comment from Karst was the first time I had heard of the limitations on the number of DR4088LN units

That is incorrect quoting ! ? I was referrring to you, mentioning that you had all DR5088RC !!! when I wrote that I never had seen the problem before.

?The comment from you (Karst) that I was referring to was this one:

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 12:14 PM, sotars wrote:

Yes this problem has carried over from the DR5000 to the updated YD7001.

Of course it did. That is because the problem originates in the DR4088LN, not in the command station !! Indifferent of the command station, Z21, IntelliBox, Digitrax, in fact any LocoNet command station show the same behaviour !!

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?to 3 groups of DR4088LN block detectors


And luckily for you you have less than the problematic 10 Modules on each group. Already back in 2019 we discoverde empiricly that there seems to be a maximum of 9-11 Modules on one LocoNet bus causes the DR4088LN to lockup. In the worst situation, they completely lockup the whole LocoNet.

I apologise if anything I have said has caused you upset that was most certainly not my intention.

Alex Thomson

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Re: Availability

 

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The YD9401 is one of many items in the YAMORC product range, and the one with a limited sales life because it can only be used with a DR5000 and the market is reducing with so many DR500 already upgraded. You also forget that the model railway electronics market is a tiny, tiny part of the global trade and the components required to make a YD9401 are used by many other devices, indeed the core component is one of the most widely used items globally which make availability very limited when other industries consume the components in millions of units.

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Finally, which other items in the existing range or which part of development should be de-prioritised to enable ¡®ramping up¡¯ production of the YD9401,

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Iain Morrison

https://wimorrison.com

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of colinayres1 via groups.io
Sent: 24 March 2024 09:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: YaMoRC, Digikeijs, JMRI, English Availability

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I have seen many posts on here reference availability.? Obviously we know that the YD7001 is an excellent system which is why we are here. But does a business just not scale up production and it's supply network when it knows its onto a winner? United Kingdom ???

Re: Reposted from other forum Hornby R8247 and Yamorc issue , please anyone help

 

Reference your problem with the hornby point modules,? I didn't find a solution.? I have two on the layout that work and two that don't. I have sent these back to hornby after a month of discussion and trying an elite to program them still nothing.?
Availability

 

I have seen many posts on here reference availability.? Obviously we know that the YD7001 is an excellent system which is why we are here. But does a business just not scale up production and it's supply network when it knows its onto a winner? United Kingdom ???
Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

Karst I am confused by your comment below as I do not have any DR5088C units. ?That is Reded


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 08:29 AM, sotars wrote:
That comment from Karst was the first time I had heard of the limitations on the number of DR4088LN units

That is incorrect quoting ! ? I was referrring to you, mentioning that you had all DR5088RC !!! when I wrote that I never had seen the problem before.

?The comment from you (Karst) that I was referring to was this one:

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 12:14 PM, sotars wrote:

Yes this problem has carried over from the DR5000 to the updated YD7001.

Of course it did. That is because the problem originates in the DR4088LN, not in the command station !! Indifferent of the command station, Z21, IntelliBox, Digitrax, in fact any LocoNet command station show the same behaviour !!

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?to 3 groups of DR4088LN block detectors


And luckily for you you have less than the problematic 10 Modules on each group. Already back in 2019 we discoverde empiricly that there seems to be a maximum of 9-11 Modules on one LocoNet bus causes the DR4088LN to lockup. In the worst situation, they completely lockup the whole LocoNet.

I apologise if anything I have said has caused you upset that was most certainly not my intention.

Alex Thomson

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Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

Polling is the process where the computer or controlling device waits for an external device to check for its readiness or state, often with low-level hardware.

Stationary Broadcast and Interrogate Commands is basically the "Polling Process" for Loconet.

The issue is most likely Transmit Echo data being triggered due to the number of devices trying to register at the same time.


Inobu







Inobu
Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 09:47 AM, Reded wrote:
I have about 50 blocks, on first connect it report just 4 of them, then after pressing the green button a few more report, I end up having to press it 5-6 times to get all blocks to report.

With what Software do you monitor the reporting ??

Greetz,

Karst
Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 01:20 PM, Inobu One wrote:
Your remedy of multiple resets or limiting loconet connection effects the polling time.

Chances are Digikeijs extending the polling time or number of polls to capture all the devices.

Try powering the devices in stages or groups. This will create a delay the reporting window.

There is no polling .... Neither in the DR5000, nor in the YD7001.

LocoNet devices "just send" on input-change and/or power-up.

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Re: YD7001 Loconet block detection requires multiple presses of the green button before all report

 

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 08:29 AM, sotars wrote:
That comment from Karst was the first time I had heard of the limitations on the number of DR4088LN units

That is incorrect quoting ! ? I was referrring to you, mentioning that you had all DR5088RC !!! when I wrote that I never had seen the problem before.

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Eddie Jones
Wed, Mar 20, 12:47?AM (3 days ago)
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5088RC and I use railcom if that matters.

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Thanks Eddie

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From:?Karst Drenth [Drenth Design & Consulting B.V.] <drenth.design.consulting@gmail.com>
Sent:?Tuesday, March 19, 2024 2:59 PM
To:?Eddie Jones <smartfxsoftware@...>
Subject:?Re: Request Activation Code for: 5000D0011927

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What type of feedbask units do you have ?

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It was the first time I heared about DR5088RC problems in this context.

The DR4088LN problem is already known for more than 5 years.... That also the DR5033 suffer from the same dissease (hanging up LocoNet on high trafic) became aparent quite soon after that 4088LN problem was discovered.

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But looking at your schematic... There is some things I would do differently.?

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First: give each DR5088RC a different "Report Delay"( start with 750 or 1000 and then increment by 130 on each subsequent DR5088 )

Second: consider your DR5033 to operate from them as CDE device behind the DR5039

Third: get rid of the 5099. One direct LocoNet cable from YD7001 LocoNet-B to DR5039 will do.

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Since you now effectively only have left 3x DR4099LN, thy should report just fine.

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Further, you may want to switch on this:

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Greets,

Karst

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Re: YD9401 conversion and 4088LN Gnd modules

 

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 07:04 AM, John Pollard wrote:
Is this related to the unsuitability for a three rail system or will my two 4088LN gnd modules used to detect micro switches on my OO gauge layout be a problem?

Just for 3-rail deployment. Micro switches, reed contacts, IR-gates erc. Will just work !

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Greets,

Karst
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