On 17/04/2019 17:27, andrew whitaker via Groups.Io wrote: Hi Chris,
Have you adjusted the position of the motors? I have just fitted 14 pl11s to a couple of dr4018s and found that I had to move a few of them into or away from the points lever because the point wasn’t throwing properly, certainly got the oomph as you put it to throw them though, are the points switching freely by hand, may need to loosen track pins if that’s how you’ve stuck them down.
Hope this helps
Andy Hi Andy Just to report back that your advice has proved successful! The first PL11 was moved just enough to ease the control bar and it now works flawlessly. Investigation of the second PL11 showed something different - miswiring. Despite me knowing that the green wire is common, I had miswired which caused non-operation in one direction. So many thanks for your help. Meanwhile regarding Iain's suggestion - yes, I did in fact have this problem when I first installed the DR4018. It took only one command to drop the input volts below 9v, and then didn't recover. I was using a power distribution board by Blocksignalling - PS4 - which is a very good way of feeding accessories - but each output is limited to 1 amp, not nearly enough for a 4018. How does everyone else feed all the accessories - other than using the track? What's the favourite way of providing a number of 12v feeds from one supply? Thanks for your comments. -- Chris
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Thanks for that, Andy. I have stuck them down but will reposition them. It helps to know they can be driven by the 4018s.
Many thanks Chris
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-------- Original message -------- From: "andrew whitaker via Groups.Io" <andy9202@...> Date: 17/04/2019 17:27 (GMT+00:00) Subject: Re: [Digikeijs], JMRI, Rocrail, Itrain, Walthers, Tortise, Cobalt, Switch Machine, Roco, Throttle New file uploaded to [email protected]
Hi Chris, Have you adjusted the position of the motors? I have just fitted 14 pl11s to a couple of dr4018s and found that I had to move a few of them into or away from the points lever because the point wasn’t throwing properly, certainly got the oomph as you put it to throw them though, are the points switching freely by hand, may need to loosen track pins if that’s how you’ve stuck them down. Hope this helps Andy > On 17 Apr 2019, at 16:59, Chris Youlden <lists@...> wrote: > >> On 17/04/2019 13:48, Iain Morrison wrote: >> There may a problem then as the one on the Digikeijs website (modified 08/04/2019 but dated 23/12/18) has more information contained within it that the one you have uploaded. >> You actually need to refer to both to get all the information > Does anyone find the DR4018 hasn't the oomph to switch Peco PL-11 side-mounted turnout motors? > > If so, can anything be done to improve this, such as lengthening the duration of the switch pulse? > > -- > Chris > > >
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Chris, your correct, I have the manual file now from Digikeijs and starting to correct and update the manual.? If anyone knows technical errors that need to be fixed let me know.
I am correcting some of the translations and omission right now.
Some should come along and help you with the setup for you Peco Plii's
Dennis
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Also depends on the power supply you are using - if you are having issues might be worth putting a more powerful separate power supply into DR4018 rather than using DCC Bus
Iain Morrison
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From: [email protected] on behalf of andrew whitaker via Groups.Io <andy9202@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 5:27 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Digikeijs], JMRI, Rocrail, Itrain, Walthers, Tortise, Cobalt, Switch Machine, Roco, Throttle New file uploaded to [email protected]
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Hi Chris,
Have you adjusted the position of the motors? I have just fitted 14 pl11s to a couple of dr4018s and found that I had to move a few of them into or away from the points lever because the point wasn’t throwing properly, certainly got the oomph as you put it
to throw them though, are the points switching freely by hand, may need to loosen track pins if that’s how you’ve stuck them down.
Hope this helps
Andy
> On 17 Apr 2019, at 16:59, Chris Youlden <lists@...> wrote:
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>> On 17/04/2019 13:48, Iain Morrison wrote:
>> There may a problem then as the one on the Digikeijs website (modified 08/04/2019 but dated 23/12/18) has more information contained within it that the one you have uploaded.
>> You actually need to refer to both to get all the information
> Does anyone find the DR4018 hasn't the oomph to switch Peco PL-11 side-mounted turnout motors?
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> If so, can anything be done to improve this, such as lengthening the duration of the switch pulse?
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> Chris
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Hi Chris,
Have you adjusted the position of the motors? I have just fitted 14 pl11s to a couple of dr4018s and found that I had to move a few of them into or away from the points lever because the point wasn’t throwing properly, certainly got the oomph as you put it to throw them though, are the points switching freely by hand, may need to loosen track pins if that’s how you’ve stuck them down.
Hope this helps
Andy
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On 17 Apr 2019, at 16:59, Chris Youlden <lists@...> wrote:
On 17/04/2019 13:48, Iain Morrison wrote:
There may a problem then as the one on the Digikeijs website (modified 08/04/2019 but dated 23/12/18) has more information contained within it that the one you have uploaded.
You actually need to refer to both to get all the information Does anyone find the DR4018 hasn't the oomph to switch Peco PL-11 side-mounted turnout motors?
If so, can anything be done to improve this, such as lengthening the duration of the switch pulse?
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Chris
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On 17/04/2019 13:48, Iain Morrison wrote: There may a problem then as the one on the Digikeijs website (modified 08/04/2019 but dated 23/12/18) has more information contained within it that the one you have uploaded.
You actually need to refer to both to get all the information
Does anyone find the DR4018 hasn't the oomph to switch Peco PL-11 side-mounted turnout motors? If so, can anything be done to improve this, such as lengthening the duration of the switch pulse? -- Chris
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Reading this topic and the implication that you need to read both a new and old data sheets for the DR4018 is this also true for other products?
If so, where does one find older datasheets on the website?
Colin
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There may a problem then as the one on the Digikeijs website (modified 08/04/2019 but dated 23/12/18) has more information contained within it that the one you have uploaded. ? You actually need to refer to both to get all the information ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dennis Cherry
Sent: 17 April 2019 12:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Digikeijs], JMRI, Rocrail, Itrain, Walthers, Tortise, Cobalt, Switch Machine, Roco, Throttle New file uploaded to [email protected] ? No, this is an earlier version (V1.2) dated? 05-02-2012.? It has some information not in the most current version Dated 12-23-2018)
There is some of the programming steps not found in the current version.
Also the note about when you program the DR4018 you might have to reprogram the ID for the DR40218 again.
I have seen this problem and wondered if it was something I was doing, now know it might have to be done again.
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No, this is an earlier version (V1.2) dated? 05-02-2012.? It has some information not in the most current version Dated 12-23-2018)
There is some of the programming steps not found in the current version.
Also the note about when you program the DR4018 you might have to reprogram the ID for the DR4018 again.
I have seen this problem and wondered if it was something I was doing, now know it might have to be done again.
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I think that this is the new DR4018 manual that was released on the Digikeijs website a few weeks ago? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected] Notification
Sent: 16 April 2019 15:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Digikeijs], JMRI, Rocrail, Itrain, Walthers, Tortise, Cobalt, Switch Machine, Roco, Throttle New file uploaded to [email protected] ? Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. File: 20933457-07f432-DR4018_V1.2.pdf Uploaded By: Dennis Cherry Description:
Good document on the DR4018 Switching Decoder You can access this file at the URL:
/g/Digikeijs/files/Digikeijs%20Products/DR4018,%20DR4101,%20DR4102%20and%20DR4103%20Switch%20Decoders/20933457-07f432-DR4018_V1.2.pdf Cheers,
The 开云体育 Team
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Re: DR5000 & 6pin decoders
Thanks James,?
it was that, strange as I’d only ran a 101 with that as it’s address the day before and the last short loco address was blank when I opened it tonight, but 108 now running.
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On 1 Apr 2019, at 12:26, James@... wrote: Hello ? I am wounding if you have for this page set right in the DR5000 Config. <image001.png> This might be what’s wrong. ? ? ? Many Thanks ? James Hudson DCC Train Automation +441823 429309 www.dcctrainautomation.co.uk <image002.png> ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Iain Morrison
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 7:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Digikeijs], JMRI, Rocrail, Itrain, Walthers, Tortise, Cobalt, Switch Machine, Roco, Throttle DR5000 & 6pin decoders ? I would still try changing the address, and perhaps reset the chip before you start looking at other ideas
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Re: DR5000 which protocol?
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 07:06 AM, Colin Bennett wrote:
CML DAC20
Colin, The DR5000 will terminate the LocoNet.? Both devices will need to be plugged into the LocoNet B for the RailSync.?? Ryan
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Re: DR5000 which protocol?
Sorry all, I should have typed RailSync not railcom!
Colin
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Re: DR5000 which protocol?
Hi Colin,
I don't know about your other questions, but BDL168 does not support Railcom (BDL168 supports transponding which is different). If you want Railcom you will need Digikeijs DR5088RC
best
Konrad
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:06 AM Colin Bennett via Groups.Io <bms.systems= [email protected]> wrote: I am currently using a Sprog 3 to control Locos and turnouts (CML DAC20) via JMRI.
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If I wish to change my controller to a DR5000 and upgrade to block detection later Digitrax BDL168 I would like to know the following:
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1)???? As the CML DAC20 controls the turnout using track command S1 (Address 45), S2 (Address 46) Thrown/Closed etc. Which connection protocol do I use to send the commands via the Track connection to the CML DAC20 accessory decoder? I am assuming it would be COM(x) Xpressnet protocol. Note: I do not want to use LocoNet at this time.
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2)???? At a later stage if adding detection using non Digikeijs products does the DR5000 provide LocoNet termination for the BD168 and CML DAC20 plus Railcom signal for the BDL168?
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Colin
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I am currently using a Sprog 3 to control Locos and turnouts (CML DAC20) via JMRI.
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If I wish to change my controller to a DR5000 and upgrade to block detection later Digitrax BDL168 I would like to know the following:
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1)???? As the CML DAC20 controls the turnout using track command S1 (Address 45), S2 (Address 46) Thrown/Closed etc. Which connection protocol do I use to send the commands via the Track connection to the CML DAC20 accessory decoder? I am assuming it would be COM(x) Xpressnet protocol. Note: I do not want to use LocoNet at this time.
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2)???? At a later stage if adding detection using non Digikeijs products does the DR5000 provide LocoNet termination for the BD168 and CML DAC20 plus Railcom RailSync signal for the BDL168?
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Colin
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Re: DR5000 & 6pin decoders
Hello
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I am wondering if you have for this page set right in the DR5000 Config.
This might be what’s wrong.
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Many Thanks
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James Hudson
DCC Train Automation
+441823 429309
www.dcctrainautomation.co.uk
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Iain Morrison
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 7:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Digikeijs], JMRI, Rocrail, Itrain, Walthers, Tortise, Cobalt, Switch Machine, Roco, Throttle DR5000 & 6pin decoders
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I would still try changing the address, and perhaps reset the chip before you start looking at other ideas
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Re: DR5000 & 6pin decoders
I would still try changing the address, and perhaps reset the chip before you start looking at other ideas
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Re: DR5000 & 6pin decoders
I have other locos with lower and higher addresses that work fine, I was wondering if 108 is blocked or if there’s a problem specific to either early bachmann chips or ESU lokpilots with that addres.
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Re: DR5000 & 6pin decoders
just a suggestion, but try making the address below 99 and see if that helps.
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