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Re: #2020partiesUPDATE May and September paties--PLEASE READ THIS AND REPLY! #2020partiesUPDATE

 

Thanks Steve.? I think September is our best bet.? I wish being over 65 was my only concern.? I am not taking chances, I don't blame your wife.. At least she thinks your irreplaceable!

Get




On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 5:36 PM -0400, "stephen shearer" <sm.shearer.01@...> wrote:

I have registered (already for both events).?

I have not checked PA's current park use policy.? Here in DE, parks are closed to camping (may 15 ??).??
If the parks are open (and YCSP is GO) I will still make my own decision about attending.? I am not sure how that may will go, but I would think SEP "should" be OK by then.? I can see how things are in May and also keep my social distance...? and if the wife will "allow" the event (I am over 65, so she restricts my trips outside. TG for Amazon)?

EITHER way, IF I don't make the YCSP event, consider my unused registration a donation and I will plan on 2021...??

Steve Shearer


keep safe.?


On 4/11/20 4:20 PM, Phil De Rosa wrote:
Hello everyone.? I am sheltering in home right now, like most of the country.? I would like to bring everyone up to date on what my current thinking is, and?


Re: #2020partiesUPDATE May and September paties--PLEASE READ THIS AND REPLY! #2020partiesUPDATE

 

Hi everyone!

Thanks for the update, Phil.? Hope everyone is well.? We are a no for May, but yes for September if it's safe to do so.? Hope to see you all soon.

Stay safe,
Donna & Dave

On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 08:40:31 PM EDT, Roger Borg via groups.io <abr6331@...> wrote:


Hi Phil and others of YCSP

Thanks for the update - I had been wondering about this for some time. There is so much uncertainty at present, the numbers continue to rise and unfortunately a true accounting of the country¡¯s situation does not seem possible until more testing occurs. My wife and I marvel each day at this new pandemic reality - the likes of which we have never seen.?

Regarding the upcoming parties - I am a ¡°no" for May and a ¡°yes¡± for September - if it is safe to do so.

Stay safe and keep observing! I¡¯m about to go out now - thank god I have a view off the back of my deck.

Roger Borg



On Apr 11, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:

Hello everyone.? I am sheltering in home right now, like most of the country.? I would like to bring everyone up to date on what my current thinking is, and how I got to this point, and what and how I think this year will play out.
First, I want to thank everyone for their support.? Please don't disappear, this thing isn't dead yet.
*After conferring with the people that assist with the party during early March, I heard several "let's wait and see" opinions.? I also asked my cousin, who is in the New York area and worked in the medical field her entire career, and she said the same thing.? So I am currently holding off making any final GO/NOGO decision about the Memorial Day weekend star party until the beginning of May. ?
*I am not that optimistic about it at this point.? Besides health issues, there are some serious financial issues for many people.? I do not want to take a chance on anyone exposing themselves to the risk associated with this virus.? If by some large safety margin it makes sense to hold this event, I will announce that during the first week of May.
----------------------------------------------------------------
*That being said, the registration window will not be open very long.? I must make this decision by the end of the first full week of the month, or I will risk losing all the deposits.? You will need to REGISTER during that week, or I will cancel the event. ?
*IN THAT CASE registrations WILL BE REFUNDABLE, or you could consider donating them, OR APPLYING THEM TO THE SEPTEMBER PARTY.
*I would appreciate an email from everyone NOW if you think you will (or won't) attend, so I have an idea if we will have enough people for a party in May.
--------------------------------------------------------------
*It would also be helpful to know NOW if you would attend the SEPTEMBER party if you were able to.?
*Whether or not it makes sense to hold THAT party remains to be seen.? I'd hate to cancel both of them off this year, but again, this threat has never existed before, and I hope it never does again.? There is no guarantee that it will be safe to get together in September.? Again, I will need to make a decision no later than the first week of September. ?
*IN THAT CASE registrations WILL BE REFUNDABLE, or you could consider donating them.
*If I do not have enough people REGISTERED by the end of those weeks, I will need to cancel. ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If the best thing is to wait until next year, I already have dates picked out.? I hope everyone tries to get some observing in wherever you are.? Feel free to share this info with your local club newsletters or observing groups.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On a positive note, I am hoping everyone is well, and stays safe while this threat exists.? I wish everyone a Happy Easter /holiday season, and has the chance to connect with friends and family, and enjoys things best they can tomorrow.
Stay tuned everyone... Better days lie ahead.
As always, thank you for your continued support. ?
Phil
?


Re: #2020partiesUPDATE May and September paties--PLEASE READ THIS AND REPLY! #2020partiesUPDATE

 

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Hi Phil and others of YCSP

Thanks for the update - I had been wondering about this for some time. There is so much uncertainty at present, the numbers continue to rise and unfortunately a true accounting of the country¡¯s situation does not seem possible until more testing occurs. My wife and I marvel each day at this new pandemic reality - the likes of which we have never seen.?

Regarding the upcoming parties - I am a ¡°no" for May and a ¡°yes¡± for September - if it is safe to do so.

Stay safe and keep observing! I¡¯m about to go out now - thank god I have a view off the back of my deck.

Roger Borg



On Apr 11, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:

Hello everyone.? I am sheltering in home right now, like most of the country.? I would like to bring everyone up to date on what my current thinking is, and how I got to this point, and what and how I think this year will play out.
First, I want to thank everyone for their support.? Please don't disappear, this thing isn't dead yet.
*After conferring with the people that assist with the party during early March, I heard several "let's wait and see" opinions.? I also asked my cousin, who is in the New York area and worked in the medical field her entire career, and she said the same thing.? So I am currently holding off making any final GO/NOGO decision about the Memorial Day weekend star party until the beginning of May. ?
*I am not that optimistic about it at this point.? Besides health issues, there are some serious financial issues for many people.? I do not want to take a chance on anyone exposing themselves to the risk associated with this virus.? If by some large safety margin it makes sense to hold this event, I will announce that during the first week of May.
----------------------------------------------------------------
*That being said, the registration window will not be open very long.? I must make this decision by the end of the first full week of the month, or I will risk losing all the deposits.? You will need to REGISTER during that week, or I will cancel the event. ?
*IN THAT CASE registrations WILL BE REFUNDABLE, or you could consider donating them, OR APPLYING THEM TO THE SEPTEMBER PARTY.
*I would appreciate an email from everyone NOW if you think you will (or won't) attend, so I have an idea if we will have enough people for a party in May.
--------------------------------------------------------------
*It would also be helpful to know NOW if you would attend the SEPTEMBER party if you were able to.?
*Whether or not it makes sense to hold THAT party remains to be seen.? I'd hate to cancel both of them off this year, but again, this threat has never existed before, and I hope it never does again.? There is no guarantee that it will be safe to get together in September.? Again, I will need to make a decision no later than the first week of September. ?
*IN THAT CASE registrations WILL BE REFUNDABLE, or you could consider donating them.
*If I do not have enough people REGISTERED by the end of those weeks, I will need to cancel. ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If the best thing is to wait until next year, I already have dates picked out.? I hope everyone tries to get some observing in wherever you are.? Feel free to share this info with your local club newsletters or observing groups.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On a positive note, I am hoping everyone is well, and stays safe while this threat exists.? I wish everyone a Happy Easter /holiday season, and has the chance to connect with friends and family, and enjoys things best they can tomorrow.
Stay tuned everyone... Better days lie ahead.
As always, thank you for your continued support. ?
Phil
?


Re: #2020partiesUPDATE May and September paties--PLEASE READ THIS AND REPLY! #2020partiesUPDATE

 

Phil
NO for May and YES for September.
Agree, better to err on the side of caution.?
Stay safe
Jeff Bodie

On Apr 11, 2020 16:20, Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:
Hello everyone.? I am sheltering in home right now, like most of the country.? I would like to bring everyone up to date on what my current thinking is, and how I got to this point, and what and how I think this year will play out.
First, I want to thank everyone for their support.? Please don't disappear, this thing isn't dead yet.
*After conferring with the people that assist with the party during early March, I heard several "let's wait and see" opinions.? I also asked my cousin, who is in the New York area and worked in the medical field her entire career, and she said the same thing.? So I am currently holding off making any final GO/NOGO decision about the Memorial Day weekend star party until the beginning of May. ?
*I am not that optimistic about it at this point.? Besides health issues, there are some serious financial issues for many people.? I do not want to take a chance on anyone exposing themselves to the risk associated with this virus.? If by some large safety margin it makes sense to hold this event, I will announce that during the first week of May.
----------------------------------------------------------------
*That being said, the registration window will not be open very long.? I must make this decision by the end of the first full week of the month, or I will risk losing all the deposits.? You will need to REGISTER during that week, or I will cancel the event. ?
*IN THAT CASE registrations WILL BE REFUNDABLE, or you could consider donating them, OR APPLYING THEM TO THE SEPTEMBER PARTY.
*I would appreciate an email from everyone NOW if you think you will (or won't) attend, so I have an idea if we will have enough people for a party in May.
--------------------------------------------------------------
*It would also be helpful to know NOW if you would attend the SEPTEMBER party if you were able to.?
*Whether or not it makes sense to hold THAT party remains to be seen.? I'd hate to cancel both of them off this year, but again, this threat has never existed before, and I hope it never does again.? There is no guarantee that it will be safe to get together in September.? Again, I will need to make a decision no later than the first week of September. ?
*IN THAT CASE registrations WILL BE REFUNDABLE, or you could consider donating them.
*If I do not have enough people REGISTERED by the end of those weeks, I will need to cancel. ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If the best thing is to wait until next year, I already have dates picked out.? I hope everyone tries to get some observing in wherever you are.? Feel free to share this info with your local club newsletters or observing groups.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On a positive note, I am hoping everyone is well, and stays safe while this threat exists.? I wish everyone a Happy Easter /holiday season, and has the chance to connect with friends and family, and enjoys things best they can tomorrow.
Stay tuned everyone... Better days lie ahead.
As always, thank you for your continued support. ?
Phil
?


Re: #2020partiesUPDATE May and September paties--PLEASE READ THIS AND REPLY! #2020partiesUPDATE

 

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I have registered (already for both events).?

I have not checked PA's current park use policy.? Here in DE, parks are closed to camping (may 15 ??).??
If the parks are open (and YCSP is GO) I will still make my own decision about attending.? I am not sure how that may will go, but I would think SEP "should" be OK by then.? I can see how things are in May and also keep my social distance...? and if the wife will "allow" the event (I am over 65, so she restricts my trips outside. TG for Amazon)?

EITHER way, IF I don't make the YCSP event, consider my unused registration a donation and I will plan on 2021...??

Steve Shearer


keep safe.?


On 4/11/20 4:20 PM, Phil De Rosa wrote:

Hello everyone.? I am sheltering in home right now, like most of the country.? I would like to bring everyone up to date on what my current thinking is, and?


Re: #2020partiesUPDATE May and September paties--PLEASE READ THIS AND REPLY! #2020partiesUPDATE

 

I haven't registered yet, but I do plan to attend if it happens.

JanR




On Saturday, April 11, 2020 Phil De Rosa <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello everyone.? I am sheltering in home right now, like most of the country.? I would like to bring everyone up to date on what my current thinking is, and how I got to this point, and what and how I think this year will play out.
First, I want to thank everyone for their support.? Please don't disappear, this thing isn't dead yet.
*After conferring with the people that assist with the party during early March, I heard several "let's wait and see" opinions.? I also asked my cousin, who is in the New York area and worked in the medical field her entire career, and she said the same thing.? So I am currently holding off making any final GO/NOGO decision about the Memorial Day weekend star party until the beginning of May. ?
*I am not that optimistic about it at this point.? Besides health issues, there are some serious financial issues for many people.? I do not want to take a chance on anyone exposing themselves to the risk associated with this virus.? If by some large safety margin it makes sense to hold this event, I will announce that during the first week of May.
----------------------------------------------------------------
*That being said, the registration window will not be open very long.? I must make this decision by the end of the first full week of the month, or I will risk losing all the deposits.? You will need to REGISTER during that week, or I will cancel the event. ?
*IN THAT CASE registrations WILL BE REFUNDABLE, or you could consider donating them, OR APPLYING THEM TO THE SEPTEMBER PARTY.
*I would appreciate an email from everyone NOW if you think you will (or won't) attend, so I have an idea if we will have enough people for a party in May.
--------------------------------------------------------------
*It would also be helpful to know NOW if you would attend the SEPTEMBER party if you were able to.?
*Whether or not it makes sense to hold THAT party remains to be seen.? I'd hate to cancel both of them off this year, but again, this threat has never existed before, and I hope it never does again.? There is no guarantee that it will be safe to get together in September.? Again, I will need to make a decision no later than the first week of September. ?
*IN THAT CASE registrations WILL BE REFUNDABLE, or you could consider donating them.
*If I do not have enough people REGISTERED by the end of those weeks, I will need to cancel. ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If the best thing is to wait until next year, I already have dates picked out.? I hope everyone tries to get some observing in wherever you are.? Feel free to share this info with your local club newsletters or observing groups.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On a positive note, I am hoping everyone is well, and stays safe while this threat exists.? I wish everyone a Happy Easter /holiday season, and has the chance to connect with friends and family, and enjoys things best they can tomorrow.
Stay tuned everyone... Better days lie ahead.
As always, thank you for your continued support. ?
Phil
?


#2020partiesUPDATE May and September paties--PLEASE READ THIS AND REPLY! #2020partiesUPDATE

 

Hello everyone.? I am sheltering in home right now, like most of the country.? I would like to bring everyone up to date on what my current thinking is, and how I got to this point, and what and how I think this year will play out.
First, I want to thank everyone for their support.? Please don't disappear, this thing isn't dead yet.
*After conferring with the people that assist with the party during early March, I heard several "let's wait and see" opinions.? I also asked my cousin, who is in the New York area and worked in the medical field her entire career, and she said the same thing.? So I am currently holding off making any final GO/NOGO decision about the Memorial Day weekend star party until the beginning of May. ?
*I am not that optimistic about it at this point.? Besides health issues, there are some serious financial issues for many people.? I do not want to take a chance on anyone exposing themselves to the risk associated with this virus.? If by some large safety margin it makes sense to hold this event, I will announce that during the first week of May.
----------------------------------------------------------------
*That being said, the registration window will not be open very long.? I must make this decision by the end of the first full week of the month, or I will risk losing all the deposits.? You will need to REGISTER during that week, or I will cancel the event. ?
*IN THAT CASE registrations WILL BE REFUNDABLE, or you could consider donating them, OR APPLYING THEM TO THE SEPTEMBER PARTY.
*I would appreciate an email from everyone NOW if you think you will (or won't) attend, so I have an idea if we will have enough people for a party in May.
--------------------------------------------------------------
*It would also be helpful to know NOW if you would attend the SEPTEMBER party if you were able to.?
*Whether or not it makes sense to hold THAT party remains to be seen.? I'd hate to cancel both of them off this year, but again, this threat has never existed before, and I hope it never does again.? There is no guarantee that it will be safe to get together in September.? Again, I will need to make a decision no later than the first week of September. ?
*IN THAT CASE registrations WILL BE REFUNDABLE, or you could consider donating them.
*If I do not have enough people REGISTERED by the end of those weeks, I will need to cancel. ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If the best thing is to wait until next year, I already have dates picked out.? I hope everyone tries to get some observing in wherever you are.? Feel free to share this info with your local club newsletters or observing groups.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On a positive note, I am hoping everyone is well, and stays safe while this threat exists.? I wish everyone a Happy Easter /holiday season, and has the chance to connect with friends and family, and enjoys things best they can tomorrow.
Stay tuned everyone... Better days lie ahead.
As always, thank you for your continued support. ?
Phil
?


Very appropriate

 

I ran into?. I think it speaks for itself.?




other news

 

Other News...

I hope everyone stays safe, ref "China Virus" and by May it will have passed...
A good source of status: by Dr. John Campbell

steve


Re: GOOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

 

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Thank you - that certainly helps.?


On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Prasad Agrahar via Groups.Io <ad_prasad@...> wrote:

I should explain - this page gives the historical average temps. Highs are like 75 deg and Lows like 52 degrees.

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On Saturday, February 22, 2020, 02:16:55 PM EST, Prasad Agrahar via Groups.Io <ad_prasad@...> wrote:


Try .?




On Saturday, February 22, 2020, 02:00:13 PM EST, Roger Borg via Groups.Io <abr6331@...> wrote:


Phil

For the May 2020 date, do you happen to know what the weather is typically like in those parts - especially regarding evening viewing?

Is it typically warm, wet? Cool and drier?

Thanks
Roger



On Feb 18, 2020, at 7:23 PM, charles.bradshaw via Groups.Io <cbradshaw1@...> wrote:

About 900 lbs empty!? Maybe 1300 loaded with my gear.


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 7:34
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

That should be fine.? Any idea of the weight, Charles?
?
?
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?charles.bradshaw via Groups.Io
Sent:?Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:52 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Pulling a 5x8 single axel trailer with equipment.
?
Charles Bradshaw
?
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin VanHorn <kcgvanhorn@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:24
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
Phil,?
?
I have a Coachman Spirit 2253.
Weight 7400, length 25 ft, 2 axles
Pulled by a Ram 1500 Crew Cab.
?
Any other questions let me know
?
Kevin Van Horn
?
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 1:32 PM Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:
Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).
?
To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th?wheelers.??
?
This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me.? I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.
Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---
but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere.? We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??
?
I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.
?
There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.??
I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.
I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.
Phil
?
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent:?Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?[YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger
?



Re: GOOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

 

I should explain - this page gives the historical average temps. Highs are like 75 deg and Lows like 52 degrees.

?

On Saturday, February 22, 2020, 02:16:55 PM EST, Prasad Agrahar via Groups.Io <ad_prasad@...> wrote:


Try .?




On Saturday, February 22, 2020, 02:00:13 PM EST, Roger Borg via Groups.Io <abr6331@...> wrote:


Phil

For the May 2020 date, do you happen to know what the weather is typically like in those parts - especially regarding evening viewing?

Is it typically warm, wet? Cool and drier?

Thanks
Roger



On Feb 18, 2020, at 7:23 PM, charles.bradshaw via Groups.Io <cbradshaw1@...> wrote:

About 900 lbs empty!? Maybe 1300 loaded with my gear.


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 7:34
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

That should be fine.? Any idea of the weight, Charles?
?
?
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?charles.bradshaw via Groups.Io
Sent:?Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:52 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Pulling a 5x8 single axel trailer with equipment.
?
Charles Bradshaw
?
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin VanHorn <kcgvanhorn@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:24
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
Phil,?
?
I have a Coachman Spirit 2253.
Weight 7400, length 25 ft, 2 axles
Pulled by a Ram 1500 Crew Cab.
?
Any other questions let me know
?
Kevin Van Horn
?
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 1:32 PM Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:
Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).
?
To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th?wheelers.??
?
This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me.? I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.
Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---
but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere.? We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??
?
I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.
?
There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.??
I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.
I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.
Phil
?
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent:?Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?[YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger
?


Re: GOOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

 

Try .?




On Saturday, February 22, 2020, 02:00:13 PM EST, Roger Borg via Groups.Io <abr6331@...> wrote:


Phil

For the May 2020 date, do you happen to know what the weather is typically like in those parts - especially regarding evening viewing?

Is it typically warm, wet? Cool and drier?

Thanks
Roger



On Feb 18, 2020, at 7:23 PM, charles.bradshaw via Groups.Io <cbradshaw1@...> wrote:

About 900 lbs empty!? Maybe 1300 loaded with my gear.


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 7:34
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

That should be fine.? Any idea of the weight, Charles?
?
?
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?charles.bradshaw via Groups.Io
Sent:?Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:52 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Pulling a 5x8 single axel trailer with equipment.
?
Charles Bradshaw
?
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin VanHorn <kcgvanhorn@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:24
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
Phil,?
?
I have a Coachman Spirit 2253.
Weight 7400, length 25 ft, 2 axles
Pulled by a Ram 1500 Crew Cab.
?
Any other questions let me know
?
Kevin Van Horn
?
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 1:32 PM Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:
Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).
?
To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th?wheelers.??
?
This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me.? I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.
Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---
but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere.? We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??
?
I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.
?
There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.??
I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.
I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.
Phil
?
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent:?Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?[YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger
?


Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

 

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Phil

For the May 2020 date, do you happen to know what the weather is typically like in those parts - especially regarding evening viewing?

Is it typically warm, wet? Cool and drier?

Thanks
Roger



On Feb 18, 2020, at 7:23 PM, charles.bradshaw via Groups.Io <cbradshaw1@...> wrote:

About 900 lbs empty!? Maybe 1300 loaded with my gear.


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 7:34
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

That should be fine.? Any idea of the weight, Charles?
?
?
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?charles.bradshaw via Groups.Io
Sent:?Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:52 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Pulling a 5x8 single axel trailer with equipment.
?
Charles Bradshaw
?
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin VanHorn <kcgvanhorn@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:24
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
Phil,?
?
I have a Coachman Spirit 2253.
Weight 7400, length 25 ft, 2 axles
Pulled by a Ram 1500 Crew Cab.
?
Any other questions let me know
?
Kevin Van Horn
?
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 1:32 PM Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:
Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).
?
To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th?wheelers.??
?
This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me.? I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.
Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---
but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere.? We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??
?
I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.
?
There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.??
I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.
I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.
Phil
?
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent:?Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?[YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger
?


Re: [YCSP] GOOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS - - YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

charles.bradshaw
 

About 900 lbs empty!? Maybe 1300 loaded with my gear.


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 7:34
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

That should be fine.? Any idea of the weight, Charles?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of charles.bradshaw via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Pulling a 5x8 single axel trailer with equipment.
?
Charles Bradshaw
?
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin VanHorn <kcgvanhorn@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:24
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
Phil,
?
I have a Coachman Spirit 2253.
Weight 7400, length 25 ft, 2 axles
Pulled by a Ram 1500 Crew Cab.
?
Any other questions let me know
?
Kevin Van Horn
?
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 1:32 PM Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:
Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).
?
To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th wheelers.?
?
This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me.? I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.
Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---
but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere.? We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??
?
I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.
?
There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.?
I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.
I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.
Phil
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger
?


Re: [YCSP] GOOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS - - YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

 

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That should be fine.? Any idea of the weight, Charles?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of charles.bradshaw via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

?

Pulling a 5x8 single axel trailer with equipment.

?

Charles Bradshaw

?

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin VanHorn <kcgvanhorn@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:24
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

Phil,

?

I have a Coachman Spirit 2253.

Weight 7400, length 25 ft, 2 axles

Pulled by a Ram 1500 Crew Cab.

?

Any other questions let me know

?

Kevin Van Horn

?

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 1:32 PM Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:

Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).

?

To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th wheelers.?

?

This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me.? I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.

Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---

but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere.? We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??

?

I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.

?

There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.?

I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.

I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.

Phil

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

?

Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger

?


Re: [YCSP] GOOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS - - YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

charles.bradshaw
 

Pulling a 5x8 single axel trailer with equipment.

Charles Bradshaw


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:32
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).
?
To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th wheelers.?
?
This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me. ?I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.
Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---
but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere. ?We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??
?
I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.
?
There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.?
I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.
I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.
Phil
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger
?


Re: [YCSP] GOOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS - - YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

charles.bradshaw
 

Pulling a 5x8 single axel trailer with equipment.

Charles Bradshaw


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin VanHorn <kcgvanhorn@...>
To: YCSP <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:24
Subject: Re: GGOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS. [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

Phil,

I have a Coachman Spirit 2253.
Weight 7400, length 25 ft, 2 axles
Pulled by a Ram 1500 Crew Cab.

Any other questions let me know

Kevin Van Horn

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 1:32 PM Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:
Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).
?
To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th wheelers.?
?
This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me.? I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.
Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---
but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere.? We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??
?
I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.
?
There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.?
I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.
I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.
Phil
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park
?
Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger
?


Re: [YCSP] GOOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS - - YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

 

That¡¯s great news - thanks for that clarification.
Roger




On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 1:32 PM, Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:

Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).

?

To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th wheelers.?

?

This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me. ?I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.

Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---

but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere. ?We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??

?

I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.

?

There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.?

I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.

I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.

Phil

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

?

Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger

?


Re: [YCSP] GOOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS - - YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

 

I can only be at the fall one, we will be in Texas for the Texas star party in May


On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 7:54 PM Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:
Thanks Kevin.? We know where that goes.? Thanks for your support a these years.? Glad to see you'll be at both parties this year!

Get




On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 7:24 PM -0500, "Kevin VanHorn" <kcgvanhorn@...> wrote:

Phil,

I have a Coachman Spirit 2253.
Weight 7400, length 25 ft, 2 axles
Pulled by a Ram 1500 Crew Cab.

Any other questions let me know

Kevin Van Horn

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 1:32 PM Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:

Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).

?

To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th wheelers.?

?

This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me.? I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.

Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---

but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere.? We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??

?

I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.

?

There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.?

I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.

I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.

Phil

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

?

Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger

?


Re: [YCSP] GOOD NEWS ABOUT CAMPING, CAMPERS, AND MOST TRAILERS - - YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

 

Thanks Kevin.? We know where that goes.? Thanks for your support a these years.? Glad to see you'll be at both parties this year!

Get




On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 7:24 PM -0500, "Kevin VanHorn" <kcgvanhorn@...> wrote:

Phil,

I have a Coachman Spirit 2253.
Weight 7400, length 25 ft, 2 axles
Pulled by a Ram 1500 Crew Cab.

Any other questions let me know

Kevin Van Horn

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 1:32 PM Phil De Rosa <philderosa1@...> wrote:

Thanks for the question, Roger!? Sorry if I didn¡¯t make it clear to everyone, I¡¯ve been working with the State Park people to address the details and get contracts and paperwork (and fees and expenses) started for this year (and laying the groundwork for next year and more!).

?

To answer your question: cars, scopes, and lighter campers (single and double axel) ARE ALLOWED to be on the field together.? Restrictions only apply to heavy campers, RVs, and 5th wheelers.?

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This means that I will need some. ??I would like EVERYONE pulling a camper or trailer to send the make, model #, weight, length, # of axles to me.? I can then plan out the spaces and we can save time at registration.? Larger heavier units may be directed to the hard-pack parking lot, but I will discuss this with any individual owners if I have concerns.? If damage occurs, I¡¯ll learn what the limits really are.? No one knows, and I don¡¯t want to find out the hard way.

Short single axles under +/- 1200-1400 pounds like the Scamp caused no issues, and I doubt lighter double axles will be cause for concern.? This means that light double axles can be allowed on the field with car and scope¡ªI think Mr. Leuba¡¯s will be fine---

but may need to be strategically located fit in a space and to avoid blocking other¡¯s observing area, or if too long, the car parked elsewhere.? We are going to play it by ear and learn together. ??

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I am liable for any damages at my expense.? That said, there was no discernable damage on the field last year, even after 4 days of rain.? And those who owned heavy campers voluntarily stayed off the field.

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There are some other details I can elaborate on, but I will review my previous email and see what I included/excluded.?

I hope to see Roger, Paul and others at the Memorial Day weekend event if they plan to attend this year¡¯s Black Forest Star Party, which shares our September dates.? You may like this spot, too.

I have been slammed at work and other business, but hope to have the web pages updated soon.

Phil

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Roger Borg via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCSP] YCSP and Susquehannock State Park

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Hi Phil

From your last update - 2/2/2020? - as see at?/g/YCSP, it is not entirely clear what the camping situation is for the 2 dates ¡­ per the poll we took.

IE, will we be able to drive our cars on to the field? Do they need to be in the parking lot?

Maybe I missed it but can you clearly state what it is we can and cannot do with regard to our equipment and vehicles?

Thanks
Roger

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