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Hanuman bungee
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I'm considering changing the bungees on my undercarriage, they seem a bit tired. I have seen some people replace them with gas shocks, which I would love to do, but don't know the details of what would be done. I haven't found any kits, and I'm not super familiar with the specs of shocks. I was told one fellow used the kind on dirt bikes, but nothing more specific than that. Has anyone swapped to shocks, and if so, what were the parts and how did you do it? Has anyone replaced the bungee cord? If so what kind of cord did you use and are there any tricks to it? (I know to wrap it with the weight off, but that's about it) ? Thanks! Tom |
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Tom
You should order new bungee from xair dealer. The dealer for Europe is Randkar company located in France. I did That recently. It is rather hard to install the new bungee it is two mans job but if you are younger than 25 years old you might do it alone. About gas shocks I have no idea but I recommend to use parts as describet in manual Regards Bernhard ----- Upprunalegt skeyti ----- Frá: kymidnight@... Til: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 23 Jul 2022 00:08:11 -0000 (GMT) Efni: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee I'm considering changing the bungees on my undercarriage, they seem a bit tired. I have seen some people replace them with gas shocks, which I would love to do, but don't know the details of what would be done. I haven't found any kits, and I'm not super familiar with the specs of shocks. I was told one fellow used the kind on dirt bikes, but nothing more specific than that. Has anyone swapped to shocks, and if so, what were the parts and how did you do it? Has anyone replaced the bungee cord? If so what kind of cord did you use and are there any tricks to it? (I know to wrap it with the weight off, but that's about it) Thanks! Tom |
开云体育I just replaced mine with 10mm non certified bungee cords. No need to order the chords from the factory unless you want to pay 200% mark up and have to wait 2+ weeks. I got mine locally for 25$CDN after taxes - 45 feet, more than enough.
I believe I cut 4 pieces at 60 inches long each piece. Simply wrap as tight as you can go and you're done.?
If you think it's right enough, go tighter.
Good luck. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bernhard Svavarsson <bern@...>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 11:55:27 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee ?
Tom
You should order new bungee from xair dealer. The dealer for Europe is Randkar company located in France. I did That recently. It is rather hard to install the new bungee it is two mans job but if you are younger than 25 years old you might do it alone. About gas shocks I have no idea but I recommend to use parts as describet in manual Regards Bernhard?? ----- Upprunalegt skeyti ----- Frá: kymidnight@... Til: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 23 Jul 2022 00:08:11 -0000 (GMT) Efni: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee I'm considering changing the bungees on my undercarriage, they seem a bit tired. I have seen some people replace them with gas shocks, which I would love to do, but don't know the details of what would be done. I haven't found any kits, and I'm not super familiar with the specs of shocks. I was told one fellow used the kind on dirt bikes, but nothing more specific than that. Has anyone swapped to shocks, and if so, what were the parts and how did you do it? Has anyone replaced the bungee cord? If so what kind of cord did you use and are there any tricks to it? (I know to wrap it with the weight off, but that's about it) Thanks! Tom |
开云体育I would strongly recommend getting the original cord from the manufacturer. So many have tried with hardware store bungee but it is just not suitable. You cannot fit shock absorbers on the Hanuman model that I am aware of because the shock absorber does not work in compression it works in extension and that is why they use bungee cord. If there was some sort of reverse shock absorber available then I am sure you could get to work but it is under extension not compression.We have replaced a lot of parts for people who have used hardware store bungee which has failed on the first landing on some occasions even in the hanger when the aircraft is just sitting there. One example was it failed and the wing drop down on the workbench putting a hole in the wing fabric courtesy of a vice attached to the bench....? Just by the correct stuff that we know works and get on with flying. kymidnight@... wrote on
23/07/2022 10:08 am:
-- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 USA +1 213 984 1237 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... skype name: xcomavionics Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message. "Amateurs practice till they get it right; Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong." |
开云体育My apologies - the bungee cords I ised are not from the dollar store. I purchased them from aircraft spruce aviation store but they are not "certified". They sell both but come from the same supplier. The cost is 80cents per foot versus 5$+
per foot. I have landed 40+ times so far and I've had zero issues.?
I would not advise purchasing hardware store bungee cords. Not a good idea. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Coates <mcoates@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 6:33:56 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee ?
I would strongly recommend getting the original cord from the manufacturer. So many have tried with hardware store bungee but it is just not suitable. You cannot fit shock absorbers on the Hanuman model that I am aware of because the shock absorber does
not work in compression it works in extension and that is why they use bungee cord. If there was some sort of reverse shock absorber available then I am sure you could get to work but it is under extension not compression.
We have replaced a lot of parts for people who have used hardware store bungee which has failed on the first landing on some occasions even in the hanger when the aircraft is just sitting there. One example was it failed and the wing drop down on the workbench putting a hole in the wing fabric courtesy of a vice attached to the bench....? Just by the correct stuff that we know works and get on with flying. kymidnight@... wrote on 23/07/2022 10:08 am:
-- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 USA +1 213 984 1237 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... skype name: xcomavionics Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message. "Amateurs practice till they get it right; Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong." |
开云体育Anything from Aircraft Spruce will be fine. It is the cheap hardware stores where there is a problem.Justin Gregoris wrote on 25/07/2022
9:06 am:
-- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 USA +1 213 984 1237 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... skype name: xcomavionics Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message. "Amateurs practice till they get it right; Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong." |
开云体育Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed - I'll send everyone a bunch of pictures of this gentlemen's (Brent) Hanuman.
He purchased a 2009 X Air.
Completely stripped the plane - literally dismantled 98% of it. New covering, new Jabiru motor. New everything. New, modified landing gear, big tundra-like STOL tires. 3 bladed prop, list goes on. Then he also got a custom door builder to increase cabin width
to 49 inches by installing bubble doors without any cross members. Looks high-end.
This airplane is by far the nicest looking X Air I have ever seen. Probably all input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away how nice it is. Located in New Brunswick Canada.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Kevin <k-ryan@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:20:57 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee ?
I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One each was a bit soft, two worked just fine.
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开云体育Hello Justin, yes I have also been sent photographs of the progress from the first day and he is doing a fantastic job. I have been holding off in posting the pictures in dribs and drabs and rather waiting until he has completely finished and then do a mass upload but you are more than welcome to send through anything that he has already sent you. It is really good to see the resources of X-Air owners and how they can approach things from a different perspective and make really significant improvementsJustin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022
10:02 am:
-- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 USA +1 213 984 1237 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... skype name: xcomavionics Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message. "Amateurs practice till they get it right; Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong." |
开云体育I wonder if the marketing ads and campaigns were better with the X Air - they may have sold a lot more aircraft.
I've taken about 4 very experienced pilots wirh total flighr hours ranging from 1800-28,000hrs and all have said the same thing: the X Air comes across as a brittle 'paper airplane' but after flying it, is surprised with overall stability and engineering while
keeping it in value packed design. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Coates <mcoates@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:08:11 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee ?
Hello Justin, yes I have also been sent photographs of the progress from the first day and he is doing a fantastic job. I have been holding off in posting the pictures in dribs and drabs and rather waiting until he has completely finished and then do a
mass upload but you are more than welcome to send through anything that he has already sent you. It is really good to see the resources of X-Air owners and how they can approach things from a different perspective and make really significant improvements
Justin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022 10:02 am:
-- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 USA +1 213 984 1237 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... skype name: xcomavionics Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message. "Amateurs practice till they get it right; Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong." |
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 12:02:48 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee ?
Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed - I'll send everyone a bunch of pictures of this gentlemen's (Brent) Hanuman.
He purchased a 2009 X Air.
Completely stripped the plane - literally dismantled 98% of it. New covering, new Jabiru motor. New everything. New, modified landing gear, big tundra-like STOL tires. 3 bladed prop,
list goes on. Then he also got a custom door builder to increase cabin width to 49 inches by installing bubble doors without any cross members. Looks high-end.
This airplane is by far the nicest looking X Air I have ever seen. Probably all input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away how nice it is. Located in New Brunswick Canada.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Kevin <k-ryan@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:20:57 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee ?
I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One each was a bit soft, two worked just fine.
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开云体育They could have always done things differently in my opinion. The problem was the market also changed and tube and fabric aircraft were no longer The only option available to recreational flyers when composite aircraft started getting around. Added to this is now There are no longer Rotax two-stroke engines available and that makes it much harder to sell the standard models.....Justin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022
10:11 am:
-- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 USA +1 213 984 1237 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... skype name: xcomavionics Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message. "Amateurs practice till they get it right; Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong." |
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Coates <mcoates@...>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 1:58:00 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee ?
They could have always done things differently in my opinion. The problem was the market also changed and tube and fabric aircraft were no longer The only option available to recreational flyers when composite aircraft started getting around. Added to
this is now There are no longer Rotax two-stroke engines available and that makes it much harder to sell the standard models.....
Justin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022 10:11 am:
-- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 USA +1 213 984 1237 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... skype name: xcomavionics Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message. "Amateurs practice till they get it right; Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong." |
开云体育Hello Hank, that is the million-dollar question.....??? There are really no viable alternates....?? A lot of people mention the Hirth but in reality they just don't have the reliability and service record of the Rotax 582. The Jabiru 2.2 doesn't perform all that well on the original X-Air airframe which was always designed for the 582.I guess we will just have to look for electric ! Hank Optland wrote on 29/07/2022 2:10
pm:
★ What will replace the two-stroke Rotax motors (no longer made) in the X-Airs? -- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 USA +1 213 984 1237 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... skype name: xcomavionics Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message. "Amateurs practice till they get it right; Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong." |
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So a total of 4 9044s is what you used?
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