Greetings!

I have located a "barn find" X-air standard built in the mid 2010's.

It is out of registration and hasn't flown in several years.? It is quite dirty but has been kept in a hangar that does not have a main door.

It doesn't look too bad but would probably take a fair amount of inspection and lots of maintenance to put in flying condition and get registered.

Could some of you chime in with what you think this might be worth and what to look out for?

I am a member of EAA, AOPA, and the Recreational Aviation Foundation and served as an AOPA rep for quite a few years.

Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide.

Rol

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Confirmed Rol.

Bill

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All,

This is a followup for my prior messages about the "barn find" XAIR.? It appears to be an early model with the engine mounted up high.??? this will be the X-Air standard or the X-Air with flaps

The owner of the land where it sits wants it moved ASAP.? He sold that portion of his ranch and wants to move the plane elsewhere.? I am concerned if it is dismantled without care it could end up in a lot worse condition than it is in now.???? they are pretty easy to dismantle, it is easy to remove the wings and the horizontal stabiliser/elevator assembly

I heard that by removing the horizontal stabilizers and a few other items that the wings can pull partly out and then fold back against the fuselage.?? not on any of the standard of flap models. It is much easier just to take the wings off because you still need to remove the exact same number of bolts

Could someone direct me to an operator's manual or instructions for accomplishing that?? It would make moving the plane and storing much better while I help him figure out what to do with it.? We may just give it to an EAA chapter as a project plane.??? avoid the liability and give it to the EAA, this is a great idea and could be your best choice

Thank you,

?????????? Rol

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On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 11:47?AM Rol Murrow <rol.murrow@...> wrote:

Thanks, Justin - that helps a lot!

Cheers,

????????? Rol

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 7:56 AM Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:

i just purchased a 2008 x air hawk (8 months ago) - with 150 hours on the jabiru 2200 and airframe - from original owner - has mode c transponder and ifr insturments and radio and garmin 296x and sensenich ground adjustable propeller - was asking 36,000CDN but I purchased it for 18,000CDN cash up front in hand. stored inside hangar entire time. profilam covering.?

runs mint and a great airplane!

hope that helps & puts things into perspective.

justin

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I think it would be most important to find paperwork for certification and Special Air Worthiness Certificate.

I have seen an X-Air Standard ?in the past that was never "papered up" and unfortunately I really don't want to dismantle one

?for a "miscellaneous parts / and plans" EAB program for Light Sport Aircraft, etc. ?

Maybe find a dataplate and certificates from a wrecked but not decertified X-Air?

Just my humble thoughts, legal or not is a question!

Jackye

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My research leads me to believe the X-Air standard with the high mounted engine does not have wings that fold, but can only be removed.? Could someone verify that?

Thanks,

??? Rol

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I recently bought an Xair Falcon with skins in need of replacement. As it was based 250 miles away the wings were removed and put on a trailer. It was a two hour job for two people who had never done it before, but had watched Michael Coates excellent Xair build video on youtube. That video is a must for Xair enthusiasts.

The aeroplane is currently de skinned and is being fitted with BMAA approved xlam skins from Topflight Sails in Tredegar, Wales. Nigel Sandercroft is the owner and very helpful. I will post some photos on the Facebook page to illustrate the project progress. Glyn

On 16 Jul 2023, at 20:30, Michael Coates <mcoates@...> wrote:

? Your research is correct the standard X-Air and the flap model X-Air with the high mounted engine as you mention do not have folding wings. Even if they did have folding wings you still run need? to remove the exact same number of bolts as you need to take the wing off. Much better just taking the wings off to? be honest, much less chance of damage. Thank you Michael

Rol wrote on 16/07/2023 12:38 pm:

My research leads me to believe the X-Air standard with the high mounted engine does not have wings that fold, but can only be removed.? Could someone verify that?

Thanks,

??? Rol

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Thank you all for the excellent information guiding me on what to do about the abandoned X-air Standard that was on a neighbor's ranch.? He had asked me about it because I have a ranch with an airstrip nearby and he knew that many folks fly in to my place.

I didn't have time to take on a paperwork hunt and restoration of it, and the ranch owner was not interested, so I arranged for him to meet an EAA chapter member who has a team that rebuilds light aircraft for a youth flight training program.? So the X-ar will be donated to that program.

I am forwarding your information to the fellow so it can help in with the project.

Again, thank you all!

Cheers,

???? Rol

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On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 4:32?AM Glyn Williams <glyn@...> wrote:

I recently bought an Xair Falcon with skins in need of replacement. As it was based 250 miles away the wings were removed and put on a trailer. It was a two hour job for two people who had never done it before, but had watched Michael Coates excellent Xair build video on youtube. That video is a must for Xair enthusiasts.

The aeroplane is currently de skinned and is being fitted with BMAA approved xlam skins from Topflight Sails in Tredegar, Wales. Nigel Sandercroft is the owner and very helpful. I will post some photos on the Facebook page to illustrate the project progress. Glyn

On 16 Jul 2023, at 20:30, Michael Coates <mcoates@...> wrote:

? Your research is correct the standard X-Air and the flap model X-Air with the high mounted engine as you mention do not have folding wings. Even if they did have folding wings you still run need? to remove the exact same number of bolts as you need to take the wing off. Much better just taking the wings off to? be honest, much less chance of damage. Thank you Michael

Rol wrote on 16/07/2023 12:38 pm:

My research leads me to believe the X-Air standard with the high mounted engine does not have wings that fold, but can only be removed.? Could someone verify that?

Thanks,

??? Rol

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