Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: BRS in X'air F [3 Attachments]
I have a new factory 912 mount for the H model if interested, make offer, I am in the USA, John
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From: Michael Coates mcoates@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft
Sent: Sun, May 14, 2017 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: BRS in X'air F [3 Attachments]
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gally_355@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote on 14/05/2017 8:44 PM:
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Hi Jon,
In Australia my X-Air MTOW is 490kg my aircraft empty
weight is 260kg
I actually purchased a 912 I wanted to install in it
rather than the 582... not sure yet as it seems hard to
get a 912 engine mount grrr
with a chute added I know the weight here can be more,?
the ones I seen have a mount to clamp the external
bullet looking chute to the main boom then has the straps
bolted to the frame... I'm sure a google search will find
some extra info but if not look at the assembly manual as
it shows the BRS mounting :)?
I would be very keen to
see some close up pictures of your 912 mounting
a mate of mine just purchased a X-Air with a jabiru
2200 and a BRS fitted.. I will get a pic or two and show
you his one, I dont think you will need to bother covering
the fuel tanks as the rock et is above and outside the
aircraft frame..
cheers Pete?
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With regards, Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
Slovenia +386 3041 6470
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: BRS in X'air F
gally_355@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote on 14/05/2017 8:44 PM:
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Hi Jon,
In Australia my X-Air MTOW is 490kg my aircraft empty
weight is 260kg
I actually purchased a 912 I wanted to install in it
rather than the 582... not sure yet as it seems hard to
get a 912 engine mount grrr
with a chute added I know the weight here can be more,?
the ones I seen have a mount to clamp the external
bullet looking chute to the main boom then has the straps
bolted to the frame... I'm sure a google search will find
some extra info but if not look at the assembly manual as
it shows the BRS mounting :)?
I would be very keen to
see some close up pictures of your 912 mounting
a mate of mine just purchased a X-Air with a jabiru
2200 and a BRS fitted.. I will get a pic or two and show
you his one, I dont think you will need to bother covering
the fuel tanks as the rock et is above and outside the
aircraft frame..
cheers Pete?
--
With regards, Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
Slovenia +386 3041 6470
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
mailto:mcoates@...
skype name: xcomavionics
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft BRS in X'air F
Hi John
Good luck, in my opinion, for what it's worth, it seems that if you can find an a/c of your type in Europe (pref Germany) that has been tested / certified by their national authority you maybe in with a chance. ?Otherwise keep flying over flat green fields. ?It is worth noting that more people (as quoted by the BRS suppliers)walk away from BRS forced landings than pilot controlled forced landings. ? Pity' the powers that be ' do not push for all a/c upto 1000kg to be fitted with a BRS
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On 14 May 2017, at 09:55, avia1or01@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] < X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:
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Dear all,
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I’m toying with fitting a Ballistic Parachute ( BRS ) in my UK registered?
X’air Falcon 912? ( X’air F to most of the world )
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How is this fitted? Externally or internally. Does the skin need to be
modified or will it shoot through the existing velcro openings?
?
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Is it? compatible with the long range tank I have fitted in the centre wing
space above the fuse tube?
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Does it need any fire proofing of fuel tanks. I’m a bit nervous about
detonating a rocket a few inches from a fibre glass petrol tank !
?
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If anyone has any photos of how its mountings I would be very grateful if
you could email me a copy ?or post here.??I’ve googled and cannot
find anything.
?
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Annoyingly the BMAA will not grant me the usual extra 23kg as they say the
aircraft is only tested to 450 kg, so I may need to remove it for its final
weighing in a couple of years.
?
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Also, just curious, what is the design weight limit of the X’air 912?? In
the UK we are limited to 450 kg but I know in Germany it is allowed 472.5KG and
would I be right in thinking it is allowed to be heavier in some other countries
( Canada ? Australia? )
?
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Regards,
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Jon Webb
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Here ya go if you can see them clear enough?
cheers Pete
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Hi Jon,
In Australia my X-Air MTOW is 490kg my aircraft empty weight is 260kg
I actually purchased a 912 I wanted to install in it rather than the 582... not sure yet as it seems hard to get a 912 engine mount grrr
with a chute added I know the weight here can be more,?
the ones I seen have a mount to clamp the external bullet looking chute to the main boom then has the straps bolted to the frame... I'm sure a google search will find some extra info but if not look at the assembly manual as it shows the BRS mounting :)?
I would be very keen to see some close up pictures of your 912 mounting
a mate of mine just purchased a X-Air with a jabiru 2200 and a BRS fitted.. I will get a pic or two and show you his one, I dont think you will need to bother covering the fuel tanks as the rocket is above and outside the aircraft frame..
cheers Pete?
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft BRS in X'air F
Looking back a few years when I owned one of the three UK Falcon
912’s, the weight and balance sheet indicates a measured empty weight of
264.5kg and a max zero fuel weight of 266.5. If you are not permitted the ?10%
increase it doesn’t leave much for the BRS!? Given the choice with an engine
failure I would still choose to glide into a field rather than pop the BRS.. Regards,
ted
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Sent: 14 May 2017 08:56
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft BRS in X'air F
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I’m toying
with fitting a Ballistic Parachute ( BRS ) in my UK registered? X’air
Falcon 912? ( X’air F to most of the world )
How is this
fitted? Externally or internally. Does the skin need to be modified or will it
shoot through the existing velcro openings?
Is it?
compatible with the long range tank I have fitted in the centre wing space
above the fuse tube?
Does it
need any fire proofing of fuel tanks. I’m a bit nervous about detonating a
rocket a few inches from a fibre glass petrol tank !
If anyone
has any photos of how its mountings I would be very grateful if you could email
me a copy ?or post here.??I’ve googled and cannot find anything.
Annoyingly
the BMAA will not grant me the usual extra 23kg as they say the aircraft is
only tested to 450 kg, so I may need to remove it for its final weighing in a
couple of years.
Also, just
curious, what is the design weight limit of the X’air 912?? In the UK we
are limited to 450 kg but I know in Germany it is allowed 472.5KG and would I
be right in thinking it is allowed to be heavier in some other countries (
Canada ? Australia? )
?
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Dear all,
?
?
I’m toying with fitting a Ballistic Parachute ( BRS ) in my UK registered?
X’air Falcon 912? ( X’air F to most of the world )
?
How is this fitted? Externally or internally. Does the skin need to be
modified or will it shoot through the existing velcro openings?
?
?
Is it? compatible with the long range tank I have fitted in the centre wing
space above the fuse tube?
?
Does it need any fire proofing of fuel tanks. I’m a bit nervous about
detonating a rocket a few inches from a fibre glass petrol tank !
?
?
If anyone has any photos of how its mountings I would be very grateful if
you could email me a copy ?or post here.??I’ve googled and cannot
find anything.
?
?
Annoyingly the BMAA will not grant me the usual extra 23kg as they say the
aircraft is only tested to 450 kg, so I may need to remove it for its final
weighing in a couple of years.
?
?
Also, just curious, what is the design weight limit of the X’air 912?? In
the UK we are limited to 450 kg but I know in Germany it is allowed 472.5KG and
would I be right in thinking it is allowed to be heavier in some other countries
( Canada ? Australia? )
?
?
?
Regards,
?
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Jon Webb
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Changing X Air Hanuman Fabric
The guys at Wingtech do a really good job, no complaints from
customers that i have heard of.? $4,500 AUD for complete set
Geoff and Barb Gartshore
gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote on
17/04/2017 4:31 AM:
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To group:
i would appreciate hearing what others experiences have
been in changing fabric for the X Air H. Specifically,
what distributor did you use, and how did that turn out in
terms of cost, delivery, fit, etc. Does Rand Kar out of
France still supply sails, and if so is the delivery time
and fit reasonable? The closest sail supplier to me (I am
in Ontario Canada) is Ultralight Sales Canada based in
Quebec. With them I have heard some owners quite pleased
and others not so much?�?.
I have the X Air H fabric removal and information manuals
- but I was also wondering if owners could identify any
particular tips/tricks to successful removal and
installation that may not be in the
manuals?�?.particularly with the wings?�?.
Your help/insight much appreciated in advance!
Geoff Gartshore
X Air Hanuman IHNC
Waterloo Ontario Canada
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With regards, Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
Slovenia +386 3041 6470
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
mailto:mcoates@...
skype name: xcomavionics
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do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick
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Changing X Air Hanuman Fabric
To group:
i would appreciate hearing what others experiences have been in changing fabric for the X Air H. Specifically, what distributor did you use, and how did that turn out in terms of cost, delivery, fit, etc. Does Rand Kar out of France still supply sails, and if so is the delivery time and fit reasonable? The closest sail supplier to me (I am in Ontario Canada) is Ultralight Sales Canada based in Quebec. With them I have heard some owners quite pleased and others not so much….
I have the X Air H fabric removal and information manuals - but I was also wondering if owners could identify any particular tips/tricks to successful removal and installation that may not be in the manuals….particularly with the wings….
Your help/insight much appreciated in advance!
Geoff Gartshore
X Air Hanuman IHNC
Waterloo Ontario Canada
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Also fuel tanks for H modells
How much for the pod? Can you send photos please?
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John,
Send me your address of group, I am going to try to get down there Monday or Tuesday.
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Also fuel tanks for H modells
Ok, Thanks John, I am 4 hours away, let me see if I can get away for a day, I'll be in touch.
Where are you located John.
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Also fuel tanks for H modells
Georgetown, SC
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From: Philip Hiatt philipdhiatt@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]
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Sent: Sat, Mar 18, 2017 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Also fuel tanks for H modells
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Where are you located John.
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Also fuel tanks for H modells
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Also fuel tanks for H modells
200 dollars, you pick up
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From: Philip Hiatt philipdhiatt@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft
Sent: Sat, Mar 18, 2017 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Also fuel tanks for H modells
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How much for the used h model fuel tank
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Also fuel tanks for H modells
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New white standard or F model pod, H model nose wheel pants and lower cowls available, no shipping. 843 240 8450
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: Drilled Nuts and Bolts
Thanks for the help.? McMaster Carr had everything I needed except for drilled hardware, but I can do some drilling.
Trent
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Re: Drilled Nuts and Bolts
Try McMaster-Carr.? That's where I usually go as they have a pretty good selection of metric hardware.
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John M.
Geoffrey Gartshore