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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft X-air F

 

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The F model with flaps uses wire bracing. The standard model ises a strut, neither are interchangeable so your stuck with the wires.



h.hibbs@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote, On 29/04/2015 3:32 AM:
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I am writing to see if any one has info on the tail cable bracing on my x-air-f.I see in some of the photos there is a solid brace under the horizontal rather than the cable ,I am just putting mine together and now would be a good time to change. I would like to know if this is available and the likes or dislikes of other owners.Thanks



With regards,    Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.

PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012

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X-air F

 

I am writing to see if any one has info on the tail cable bracing on my x-air-f.I see in some of the photos there is a solid brace under the horizontal rather than the cable ,I am just putting mine together and now would be a good time to change. I would like to know if this is available and the likes or dislikes of other owners.Thanks


XAir standard a/frame age and skins

 

Hi All, I'm considering buying an XAir standard with ?a 582 grey top motor. The aircraft is based in Spain and is registered there with a number which indicates that it was factory built. The owner is ill and I can't ask the usual questions of him so...does anyone know if I can establish the age of the frame or history of the aircraft by the serial number ? Apparently he painted the skins a couple of years back so I suspect that they may need replacing, any ideas on the cost of that replacement in Europe? I haven't been to see the A/craft yet, just trying to do some homework before I go there with an authorised inspectoR. Thanks.


Re: X-Air F (Falcon) reputation

 

Mine had the overhead additional fuel tank installed when I bought it, but the tank had obviously leaked and destroyed the screen and doors. The tank had to go when I put the chute in. If? you have a 912 on the nose, you might be able to use the 80litre tanks but I expect you will have minimal useful load capacity there-after. 80 litre tanks on a 582 X-Air would possibly put the CG too far aft?

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I agree the flaps are usually not necessary, but they are functional, and if they are on the aircraft it is useful to know how and when they could be used. As you mentioned, they are excellent for dropping into a very tight short strip, and I can see them being very helpful in the event of an engine out where landing options are limited.

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At this stage, with flaps deployed?I still haven't judged the distance and glide correctly to perform a dead-stick landing to hit the mark without needing to add some power, but that is what practice is about.


Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air F (Falcon) reputation

William
 

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I have the hawk with the 912 and it trots along at 90mph burning between 10 to 12 ltr per hour and has good short field capability


On 20 Apr 2015, at 17:09, Michael Coates mcoates@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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The 912 is by far the best engine for the F model.....?? The 80l tank is available BUT the UK rules may stop you using it.......? Best to check with your importer and CAA



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I wouldn't say there is no enthusiasm for the X-air F. I have a 912 X-Air Falcon in the UK and am loving it.
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I? don't find anything wrong with the flaps but do find them unnecessary.? I might use them for landing in a tiny field but for landing at an aerodrome with a nice long runway I just don't need them.
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Otherwise the aircraft is very good, its safe, easy to fly, with a 912 it burns 13 to 16 litres an hour depending what I'm doing.
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I have just landed today after flying 4,? 2 hour flights over 48 hours including an overnight stop sleeping in a tent under the wing? Great fun :o)
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It would be nice to have something faster with more range but Im much happier with something safe and slow.? It could do with more fuel capacity. Does anyone know if? long range / additional tanks are available?
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Regards,
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Jonathan
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Gold Coast, Australia.

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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air F (Falcon) reputation

 

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The 912 is by far the best engine for the F model.....?? The 80l tank is available BUT the UK rules may stop you using it.......? Best to check with your importer and CAA


-------- Original Message --------
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I wouldn't say there is no enthusiasm for the X-air F. I have a 912 X-Air Falcon in the UK and am loving it.
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I? don't find anything wrong with the flaps but do find them unnecessary.? I might use them for landing in a tiny field but for landing at an aerodrome with a nice long runway I just don't need them.
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Otherwise the aircraft is very good, its safe, easy to fly, with a 912 it burns 13 to 16 litres an hour depending what I'm doing.
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I have just landed today after flying 4,? 2 hour flights over 48 hours including an overnight stop sleeping in a tent under the wing? Great fun :o)
?
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It would be nice to have something faster with more range but Im much happier with something safe and slow.? It could do with more fuel capacity. Does anyone know if? long range / additional tanks are available?
?
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Regards,
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Jonathan
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-- 
With kind regards,  Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.

mailto:mcoates@...
Skype: XCOM Avionics
Phone cell: +61 418 168 665
Phone office:  +61 7 5568 7770
Fax office:   +61 7 5568 7772
Phone USA:   +1 213 984 1237
Web:  

Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process.  Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do.  Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through.

Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed.
No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message.

"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you long to return."



Re: X-Air F (Falcon) reputation

 

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I wouldn't say there is no enthusiasm for the X-air F. I have a 912 X-Air Falcon in the UK and am loving it.
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I? don't find anything wrong with the flaps but do find them unnecessary.? I might use them for landing in a tiny field but for landing at an aerodrome with a nice long runway I just don't need them.
?
?
Otherwise the aircraft is very good, its safe, easy to fly, with a 912 it burns 13 to 16 litres an hour depending what I'm doing.
?
I have just landed today after flying 4,? 2 hour flights over 48 hours including an overnight stop sleeping in a tent under the wing? Great fun :o)
?
?
It would be nice to have something faster with more range but Im much happier with something safe and slow.? It could do with more fuel capacity. Does anyone know if? long range / additional tanks are available?
?
?
?
Regards,
?
?
Jonathan
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X-Air F (Falcon) reputation

 

Hi All,

I have noticed a marked lack of enthusiasm for the X-Air F on this forum and for the life of me, I cannot understand why. I have been flying my refurbished 582 X-Air F in tropical Nth QLD, Australia since finishing the rebuild in November 2014. I can cruise at 60kts @5200 - 5300rpm burning 17lph. It climbs out at 600-800fpm in our hot humid conditions and it handles our lumpy summer air with ease. I believe a Standard cruises at 50kts @5500rpm and the rate of climb is no better?


From comments on and off this forum, I hadn't bothered using the flaps because it was suggested they were next to useless. Well the last two days, I have spent flying tight circuits with full flap approaches, and I have to say I am impressed. In our summer conditions,?I would previously approach at 55-60kts, and side-slip in if necessary. With full flap, I am approaching at around 40-45kts and pulling up in under 60 metres landing roll.


If you want confirmation of any of this information, check out the cockpit views on Youtube here.



Cheers.


Re: Battery usage

 

Hey Donnie,

? ?I bought a standard last summer, to say the least the wiring job was not to my satisfaction. ?I am a Electrical / Electronics professional and I am very OCD about wiring. ?When I bought my plane there was no battery. ?But I spec'ed out an alternate to the Odyssey 680. ?Now I will probably get flamed for this but I am going to write about what I have going on anyway. ?If you want to pay nearly $200 for a battery then be my guest. ?

A little background; ?I use this battery to turn over my Corvair in another plane of mine, with absolutely no issues. ?The one in my X-Air I took out of my Corvair powered plane with an age of nearly 2 years.

Powersonic PS-12180NB


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On my X-Air, I used the air frame as common, I ran a #4 welder cable directly to the starter solenoid (really fine strands, large current capacity). ?Then a jumper from the airframe to the engine. ?This battery with the correction of the battery cables spins my 2si 690 like there is no tomorrow. ?All in all I have about $75 in the "upgrade", that is ~$50 for the battery shipped, the welding cable I had, and the 2" galv conduit hanger I used to connect the battery neg to the main tube. ?I have not to this day exhausted the battery due to a mis-behaving engine. ?It sat in the hangar all winter with no battery maintainer; at one point we wasn't able to get out to the hangar for 3 months, when we did, the engine started without a hitch.

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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Battery usage

Owen & Cheryl @ Llewellyn Sculptures gmail
 

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I also experienced problems with starting my 582 and ended up installing a heavy earth cable directly from the negative battery terminal to the starter motor housing . Never had a problem since . Same battery now for 5 years.
?Owen Davies?

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Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Battery usage

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I use an odyssey 680 in my X air H. With the jabiru 2200. Has been a good little battery.?

Geoff Gartshore

On Apr 4, 2015, at 7:23 PM, donniereynolds1979 donniereynolds1979@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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I own an x-air standard with a Rotax 582 blue head. What type of battery would be a good choice for my plane I haven't had any luck with the last one any advice would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Battery usage

Bill NEWKIRK
 

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Me too. 4 years and still going strong. Never needs a battery tender.?

Bill Newkirk


On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:58 PM, "Geoffrey gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]" <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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I use an odyssey 680 in my X air H. With the jabiru 2200. Has been a good little battery.?

Geoff Gartshore

On Apr 4, 2015, at 7:23 PM, donniereynolds1979 donniereynolds1979@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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I own an x-air standard with a Rotax 582 blue head. What type of battery would be a good choice for my plane I haven't had any luck with the last one any advice would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Battery usage

 

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I use an odyssey 680 in my X air H. With the jabiru 2200. Has been a good little battery.?

Geoff Gartshore

On Apr 4, 2015, at 7:23 PM, donniereynolds1979 donniereynolds1979@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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I own an x-air standard with a Rotax 582 blue head. What type of battery would be a good choice for my plane I haven't had any luck with the last one any advice would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Battery usage

 

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We have had very good reliability with the Odessey brand, purchase from Aircraft Spruce and others....



donniereynolds1979 donniereynolds1979@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote, On 5/04/2015 9:23 AM:
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I own an x-air standard with a Rotax 582 blue head. What type of battery would be a good choice for my plane I haven't had any luck with the last one any advice would be greatly appreciated.



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With regards,    Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.

PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012

mailto:mcoates@...

skype name:   xcomavionics

Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process.  Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do.  Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through.

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Battery usage

 

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I own an x-air standard with a Rotax 582 blue head. What type of battery would be a good choice for my plane I haven't had any luck with the last one any advice would be greatly appreciated.



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XAIR Hanuman For Sale .....

 

Hi group.? I am reluctantly putting our Xair Hanuman up for sale.? It is located at Lethbridge Airport, near Geelong Australia and can be inspected by appointment.? For more information and contact details please see the listing on EBAY (Item No. 331517934652).


Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H 2005 kit serial #1030

Duane Drisko
 

Jabiru heater is on under jabiru tech.


Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H wheel PANTS

M Capon
 

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Oh i got ya sorry.?


Today's Quote.....
"You've never seen clouds till you've seen them looking down"


-------- Original message --------
From: "drice003@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]"
Date:04-01-2015 8:23 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H wheel PANTS

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only selling wheel pants


Today's Quote.....
"You've never seen clouds till you've seen them looking down"

-------- Original message --------
From: "drice003@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]"
Date:04-01-2015 7:58 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H wheel PANTS

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H-MODLE NEW IN BOX , MAKE OFFER BLUE WHEEL PANTS
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could you kindly provide link to the france page with the kit.

thanks!

Geoff G

On 2015-04-01, at 12:40 PM, Duane Drisko sabre340@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:

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Hi I saw your post on cabin heat. I found plans on the XAIR France dealer site which gave an easy design for manifold heat. It works great on my Hanaman w/ Jabiru 2200.

From: william.russell1@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]
Sent: ??????4/??????1/??????2015 11:31 AM
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H 2005 kit serial #1030

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Hi there I noticed your post with regards to the cabin heater I have a rotax 912 fitted to my H and have cabin heat fitted using a cowling fitted to the exhaust, a section of heater hose and a flap into the cabin operated with an automotive choke cable

Geoff and Barb Gartshore




Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H wheel PANTS

 

only selling wheel pants


Today's Quote.....
"You've never seen clouds till you've seen them looking down"

-------- Original message --------
From: "drice003@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]"
Date:04-01-2015 7:58 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H wheel PANTS

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H-MODLE NEW IN BOX , MAKE OFFER BLUE WHEEL PANTS
:
?

could you kindly provide link to the france page with the kit.

thanks!

Geoff G

On 2015-04-01, at 12:40 PM, Duane Drisko sabre340@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:

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Hi I saw your post on cabin heat. I found plans on the XAIR France dealer site which gave an easy design for manifold heat. It works great on my Hanaman w/ Jabiru 2200.

From: william.russell1@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]
Sent: ???€??4/???€??1/???€??2015 11:31 AM
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H 2005 kit serial #1030

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Hi there I noticed your post with regards to the cabin heater I have a rotax 912 fitted to my H and have cabin heat fitted using a cowling fitted to the exhaust, a section of heater hose and a flap into the cabin operated with an automotive choke cable

Geoff and Barb Gartshore




Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H wheel PANTS

M Capon
 

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You shouls part it out. Interested in selling the sails?


Today's Quote.....
"You've never seen clouds till you've seen them looking down"


-------- Original message --------
From: "drice003@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]"
Date:04-01-2015 7:58 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H wheel PANTS

?

H-MODLE NEW IN BOX , MAKE OFFER BLUE WHEEL PANTS
:

?

could you kindly provide link to the france page with the kit.

thanks!

Geoff G

On 2015-04-01, at 12:40 PM, Duane Drisko sabre340@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:

?

Hi I saw your post on cabin heat. I found plans on the XAIR France dealer site which gave an easy design for manifold heat. It works great on my Hanaman w/ Jabiru 2200.

From: william.russell1@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]
Sent: ???4/???1/???2015 11:31 AM
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H 2005 kit serial #1030

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Hi there I noticed your post with regards to the cabin heater I have a rotax 912 fitted to my H and have cabin heat fitted using a cowling fitted to the exhaust, a section of heater hose and a flap into the cabin operated with an automotive choke cable

Geoff and Barb Gartshore




Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H wheel PANTS

 

H-MODLE NEW IN BOX , MAKE OFFER BLUE WHEEL PANTS
:

?

could you kindly provide link to the france page with the kit.

thanks!

Geoff G

On 2015-04-01, at 12:40 PM, Duane Drisko sabre340@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:

?

Hi I saw your post on cabin heat. I found plans on the XAIR France dealer site which gave an easy design for manifold heat. It works great on my Hanaman w/ Jabiru 2200.

From: william.russell1@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]
Sent: ?€?4/?€?1/?€?2015 11:31 AM
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-air H 2005 kit serial #1030

?

Hi there I noticed your post with regards to the cabin heater I have a rotax 912 fitted to my H and have cabin heat fitted using a cowling fitted to the exhaust, a section of heater hose and a flap into the cabin operated with an automotive choke cable

Geoff and Barb Gartshore