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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

 

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Yes we had a few flying here, there is details of the conversion on my Xairireland website
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There was mixed views to how good it was, I would say it is not for the non technically minded, suits?an engine man and someone who likes working at engines.
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Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

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I seen in some other conversations some one mentioned about a couple of x-air's flying with Bmw conversions in Europe, anybody know any info on this. Thanks


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You could really help a lot of owners out there, do you know or can you find out the current status of the Raj Hamsa company in Bangalore and if the aircraft are still being made?

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On 6 Jan 2015, at 15:44, AviaScorp aviascorp@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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I live in India, and till a couple of years ago, used to fly on two X-Air with Jabiru 2200. I didn't have any issues with the engine, but others had had atleast one each of engine out landings on both of them.

In one instance, the aircraft was overhead, so could recover on the airfield comfortably. In the other instance, it happened during the climbout after take off, and the aircraft had to be put down in a field adjacent to the airport.? No damages to the airplane or pilots in either of the case.?


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Re: X-Air-F 503

 

I seen in some other conversations some one mentioned about a couple of x-air's flying with Bmw conversions in Europe, anybody know any info on this. Thanks


Re: X-Air-F 503

 

I live in India, and till a couple of years ago, used to fly on two X-Air with Jabiru 2200. I didn't have any issues with the engine, but others had had atleast one each of engine out landings on both of them.

In one instance, the aircraft was overhead, so could recover on the airfield comfortably. In the other instance, it happened during the climbout after take off, and the aircraft had to be put down in a field adjacent to the airport.? No damages to the airplane or pilots in either of the case.?


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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

 

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8,500 according to Rotax.



Aziz Musa upperglass@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote, On 6/01/2015 1:40 PM:
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When do you guys think a high altitude compensation kit is required for a 582.

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On Jan 4, 2015, at 21:42, h.hibbs@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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This true I am located in Canada and our weather is as little different but the altitude is close?and we don't see 30deg weather very often as well as winter fliying below?0 deg C is a better way to fly so I hope if I am going to but the 582 on I?think ?it will be ok

.I would like to see if any one has tried different engine and how the worked, the info is very helpful and would like to hear everyone opinion on the use of alternate engine in the x-air-f.

I was going to use the 503 but with this thread I believe the least I should use is the 582.Thanks for all your reply's and now I have to decide If any have info about alternative?ideas please let me know Thanks



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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

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When do you guys think a high altitude compensation kit is required for a 582.

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On Jan 4, 2015, at 21:42, h.hibbs@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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This true I am located in Canada and our weather is as little different but the altitude is close?and we don't see 30deg weather very often as well as winter fliying below?0 deg C is a better way to fly so I hope if I am going to but the 582 on I?think ?it will be ok

.I would like to see if any one has tried different engine and how the worked, the info is very helpful and would like to hear everyone opinion on the use of alternate engine in the x-air-f.

I was going to use the 503 but with this thread I believe the least I should use is the 582.Thanks for all your reply's and now I have to decide If any have info about alternative?ideas please let me know Thanks


Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

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What does everybody think about a 582 at 5000 ft elevation and an average temperature of 75 degrees. I am talking about an X-air Standard.
Thanks.

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On Jan 5, 2015, at 20:06, Scott Soper and Teresa O'Kane fosterkane@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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I presume that is the six cylinder 3300?


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From: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 20:15:20 -0500
Subject: RE: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503



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??????????????? I live in Canada too and am flying a X-Air F with a Jabiru on and It flies perfectly.

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To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

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This true I am located in Canada and our weather is as little different but the altitude is close?and we don't see 30deg weather very often as well as winter fliying below?0 deg C is a better way to fly so I hope if I am going to but the 582 on I?think ?it will be ok
.I would like to see if any one has tried different engine and how the worked, the info is very helpful and would like to hear everyone opinion on the use of alternate engine in the x-air-f.
I was going to use the 503 but with this thread I believe the least I should use is the 582.Thanks for all your reply's and now I have to decide If any have info about alternative?ideas please let me know Thanks


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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

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No, it is the 4 cylinders 2200, 85hp. Flys at 80mph at 2800 RPM.

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From: Scott Soper and Teresa O'Kane fosterkane@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] [mailto:X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...]
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I presume that is the six cylinder 3300?


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From: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 20:15:20 -0500
Subject: RE: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503


Hi,

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??????????????? I live in Canada too and am flying a X-Air F with a Jabiru on and It flies perfectly.

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Sent: 4 janvier 2015 22:43
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Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

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This true I am located in Canada and our weather is as little different but the altitude is close?and we don't see 30deg weather very often as well as winter fliying below?0 deg C is a better way to fly so I hope if I am going to but the 582 on I?think ?it will be ok
.I would like to see if any one has tried different engine and how the worked, the info is very helpful and would like to hear everyone opinion on the use of alternate engine in the x-air-f.
I was going to use the 503 but with this thread I believe the least I should use is the 582.Thanks for all your reply's and now I have to decide If any have info about alternative?ideas please let me know Thanks


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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

Scott Soper and Teresa O'Kane
 

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I presume that is the six cylinder 3300?


To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
From: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 20:15:20 -0500
Subject: RE: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503



Hi,

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??????????????? I live in Canada too and am flying a X-Air F with a Jabiru on and It flies perfectly.

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From: h.hibbs@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] [mailto:X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...]
Sent: 4 janvier 2015 22:43
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

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This true I am located in Canada and our weather is as little different but the altitude is close?and we don't see 30deg weather very often as well as winter fliying below?0 deg C is a better way to fly so I hope if I am going to but the 582 on I?think ?it will be ok
.I would like to see if any one has tried different engine and how the worked, the info is very helpful and would like to hear everyone opinion on the use of alternate engine in the x-air-f.
I was going to use the 503 but with this thread I believe the least I should use is the 582.Thanks for all your reply's and now I have to decide If any have info about alternative?ideas please let me know Thanks


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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

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Hi,

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??????????????? I live in Canada too and am flying a X-Air F with a Jabiru on and It flies perfectly.

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From: h.hibbs@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] [mailto:X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...]
Sent: 4 janvier 2015 22:43
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: X-Air-F 503

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This true I am located in Canada and our weather is as little different but the altitude is close?and we don't see 30deg weather very often as well as winter fliying below?0 deg C is a better way to fly so I hope if I am going to but the 582 on I?think ?it will be ok

.I would like to see if any one has tried different engine and how the worked, the info is very helpful and would like to hear everyone opinion on the use of alternate engine in the x-air-f.

I was going to use the 503 but with this thread I believe the least I should use is the 582.Thanks for all your reply's and now I have to decide If any have info about alternative?ideas please let me know Thanks


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Re: X-Air-F 503

 

This true I am located in Canada and our weather is as little different but the altitude is close?and we don't see 30deg weather very often as well as winter fliying below?0 deg C is a better way to fly so I hope if I am going to but the 582 on I?think ?it will be ok

.I would like to see if any one has tried different engine and how the worked, the info is very helpful and would like to hear everyone opinion on the use of alternate engine in the x-air-f.

I was going to use the 503 but with this thread I believe the least I should use is the 582.Thanks for all your reply's and now I have to decide If any have info about alternative?ideas please let me know Thanks


Re: X-Air-F 503

 

I have seen a variety of engines put on them overseas. See this response to an earlier thread -

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Looks great, nice to see it restored. All you need now is a 912 engine, then it will leap in the air like an excited puppy :o)

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I love my 912 X air F ... ?or Falcon as we call them in the UK.

I think the 912 might be a bit of overkill but it obviously still stays within the COG. That is a bit of weight you are adding to the airframe on the nose.....ie 65kg vs 48kg for a 582+gearbox????


Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft X-Air-F 503

 

If I was to look for a higher HP rated engine is there a max weight that can be installed in place of the 582 ,not sure how much the Jabiru comes it at complete? or even the Bmw conversion?. I know the Weight and Balance has to be correct but am just wondering what has been tried .Thank for the input.


Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft X-Air-F 503

 

I am flying an X-Air F in tropical north Queensland, Australia with a brand new Rotax582 (65HP). In these hot humid conditions, the 582 is Ok with one up but certainly struggles a lot more with 2 POB and a full load. They are much heavier and feel a lot more solid in the air than the Standard, and it really doesn't like airspeeds below 50kts. Mine weighed in at 303kg empty but that includes a 16kg recovery chute, 2mm?polycarb screen and doors. A friend is flying the same F model in cooler climates, with a 618(75HP) using the same gearbox/prop combo, but without doors (at this time). Currently his performance and fuel burn appears similar but I expect that to change once the drag is reduced with the doors.


Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft X-Air-F 503

 

With that said are you saying the 582 at 65hp is not enough as well, I was judging the X-Air with the flightstar that flies pretty good with a 503 ,I understand they are different but they do have a lot in common. The engine set up I was going to use was off my Flightstar but if there will be a problem I better rethink it,I do have a mod 99 582 that I could use. Any thoughts are appreciated?.Thanks?


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The 503 is not enough power for a large 2 seat aircraft like the X-Air and never on the "F" model which needs about 75 plus HP to fly properly. Thanks Michael



h.hibbs@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote on 5/01/2015 12:24 PM:

Is that because of the shorter wing and smaller tail,the standard used a 503 right.Thanks



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Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.

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Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012

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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft X-Air-F 503

 

Is that because of the shorter wing and smaller tail,the standard used a 503 right.Thanks


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Nowhere near enough power to be anything but DANGEROUS !!! Dont even try !!!



h.hibbs@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote on 5/01/2015 12:00 PM:

Has anyone had any experience with a X-Air-F with a 503 on it,I understand the wing is a shorter and flaps as well as a different tail.I am just getting ready to fly mine and am looking for a little insite Thanks



With regards,    Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.

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Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012

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X-Air-F 503

 

Has anyone had any experience with a X-Air-F with a 503 on it,I understand the wing is a shorter and flaps as well as a different tail.I am just getting ready to fly mine and am looking for a little insite Thanks


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