Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
Updating firmware is not very likely to affect receiver sensitivity.
Your description sounds like the "classic" damage due to overload.? (Input transistor burnout)
I think your best option is to send it to Radioddity for service - after checking with them first.
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Doug, K8RFT
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
I agree.
If you want to see it through on a mac though. let us know.
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On Mar 23, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Nick Marsh <nmar@...> wrote:
Can you borrow a windows laptop to update your 5105??
I would not try to use a Mac unless I had access to a Mac guru who can walk you through the process, too many ways to create other issues.?
If you were the individual who damaged the receiver with another transmitter I would have zero expectation that firmware will resolve the problem. A phone call to Radioddity might point you in the right direction for repair.? On Mar 23, 2023, at 10:44 AM, KG2RG <justinandyazny@...> wrote:
?oh, I see. Thank you.
Well I downloaded X5105_App_V3.00_build008.xgf on my macbook and I have the mackbook connected to the X5105 but no way to transfer X5105_App_V3.00_build008.xgf from mac to X5105. so thats the wall I'm stuck at.
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
I checked and unfortunately I cannot reproduce the steps for you because the USB to Serial Prolific device doesn’t have drivers for macOS Ventura yet.
Homebrew is a software package repository for macOS and can be used to install programs such as the minicom command line terminal software.
The normal update instructions show how to use TeraTerm terminal software on Windows PC to upload the firmware using the XMODEM protocol.
Those instructions would need to be followed to enter the boot loader and upload the firmware via a terminal program. Ie. Remove power, Hold +/- volume, send the firmware file.
The blog I sent earlier shows how to similarly upload a file to a device using the XMODEM protocol using minicom on macOS. The instructions should be applicable and used where the TeraTerm application is used.
I don’t have time now But, I can go through the steps on a Linux machine (Raspberry Pi) using minicom soon and take a screen capture.
Joe
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On Mar 23, 2023, at 9:06 AM, KG2RG <justinandyazny@...> wrote:
thanks Joe,?
this all seems confusing to me. that link is a blog. It states?How to transfer a file via XMODEM using Minicom. What is XMODEM and what is Minicom. are these mac programs, where do you download them??
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
Thank you Nick. I’ll try to contact them and see if they can help me
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
Can you borrow a windows laptop to update your 5105??
I would not try to use a Mac unless I had access to a Mac guru who can walk you through the process, too many ways to create other issues.?
If you were the individual who damaged the receiver with another transmitter I would have zero expectation that firmware will resolve the problem. A phone call to Radioddity might point you in the right direction for repair.?
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On Mar 23, 2023, at 10:44 AM, KG2RG <justinandyazny@...> wrote:
?oh, I see. Thank you.
Well I downloaded X5105_App_V3.00_build008.xgf on my macbook and I have the mackbook connected to the X5105 but no way to transfer X5105_App_V3.00_build008.xgf from mac to X5105. so thats the wall I'm stuck at.
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
oh, and we are both Advanced class too. we are a dying breed
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
Nice QRZ page Lou, we have similar interest in vintage rigs, projects and CW. Give me an old boat anchor with a grid block keyed oscillator and ripples on the scope coming off the full wave rectifier and I'll upgrade the filter capacitors and smooth out the ripples. But if I try to update some firmware on a X5105 with a mac and I'm lost hi hi
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
oh, I see. Thank you.
Well I downloaded X5105_App_V3.00_build008.xgf on my macbook and I have the mackbook connected to the X5105 but no way to transfer X5105_App_V3.00_build008.xgf from mac to X5105. so thats the wall I'm stuck at.
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
If you screw up updating the firmware that's what you'll be left with. . . . A Brick!
Roy WA0YMH?
Roy, what do you mean turn it into a brick?
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
“Brick” is an industry-term for any piece of electronics that has a failed firmware upload that cannot be recovered. Essentially the embedded device is broken/useless, or a useful as a “brick”. ? I hope that helps. ? Lou N2JPR ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: KG2RGSent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:20 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [X5105-Users] Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update ? Roy, what do you mean turn it into a brick?
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
Roy, what do you mean turn it into a brick?
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
who in the states does service and repair?
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
I would suggest that you send your radio in for inspection and evaluation before you turn it into a brick!
Roy WA0YMH?
thanks Joe,?
this all seems confusing to me. that link is a blog. It states?How to transfer a file via XMODEM using Minicom. What is XMODEM and what is Minicom. are these mac programs, where do you download them??
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thanks Joe,?
this all seems confusing to me. that link is a blog. It states?How to transfer a file via XMODEM using Minicom. What is XMODEM and what is Minicom. are these mac programs, where do you download them??
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
It looks like minicom supports XMODEM protocol and can be installed using home brew.
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On Mar 23, 2023, at 8:35 AM, KG2RG <justinandyazny@...> wrote:
Thanks Doug,
I downloaded that update but how do I get it into the X5105 with a mac? Joe was saying there was a?command line utility application for the Mac but I cand find the program anywhere on the net
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Oh I am sorry. I think I got confused with another firmware update project I worked on. I think I did end up using my windows machine to do this update.?
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On Mar 23, 2023, at 8:35 AM, KG2RG <justinandyazny@...> wrote:
Thanks Doug,
I downloaded that update but how do I get it into the X5105 with a mac? Joe was saying there was a?command line utility application for the Mac but I cand find the program anywhere on the net
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
Thanks Doug,
I downloaded that update but how do I get it into the X5105 with a mac? Joe was saying there was a?command line utility application for the Mac but I cand find the program anywhere on the net
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
Try this -
Click on "X5105".
Firmware and manuals are available there.
Their support department can be helpful answering questions, too.
But I think it is more likely that the receiver is damaged from the input overload.
Try the update and find out if helps.? If not, check with a Xiegu dealer (seller) for repair service.
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
Trying to get the X5105 firmware and the download kings send me to a 404 nothing found page.?
is this the correct site to download the firmware??
this would be my first time upgrading the firmware, what is the latest version I need?
 
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Re: Receive is very very attenuated - maybe need to update
Thanks, where can I download that command line utility aplocation for Mac, what’s it called?
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Lou N2JPR
