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Re: Removing display cover for cleaning

 

I used window cleaner for cleaning.?Was not so complicated and the display is now shiny. Like new...


Re: Removing display cover for cleaning

 

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I have a screen with defects.? I cannot find a replacement (Tried Xiegu direct,Radiooddity,CSI and some others).? ?

So, keep in mind those screens are precious.? If you damage it,? the only option is a new radio.??



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael VE3WMB <mbabineau.ve3wmb@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2023 9:02 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [X5105-Users] Removing display cover for cleaning
?
?I was wondering the same thing.? Mine has had a few bits of dust under the display cover since shortly after I purchased it and I have been wondering if the clear cover?
was easily removable.

I am thinking that maybe it needs some sort of rubber gasket.? It might be possible to 3D print a very thin gasket out of TPU filament (very flexible). Maybe I will look into this as a fall project.?

Cheers

Michael VE3WMB

P.S. FWIW this little rig has become my got to winter POTA rig. I have used mine for a few outdoor winter activations in well below freezing conditions and have no issues.?


Re: Removing display cover for cleaning

 

?I was wondering the same thing.? Mine has had a few bits of dust under the display cover since shortly after I purchased it and I have been wondering if the clear cover?
was easily removable.

I am thinking that maybe it needs some sort of rubber gasket.? It might be possible to 3D print a very thin gasket out of TPU filament (very flexible). Maybe I will look into this as a fall project.?

Cheers

Michael VE3WMB

P.S. FWIW this little rig has become my got to winter POTA rig. I have used mine for a few outdoor winter activations in well below freezing conditions and have no issues.?


Re: Removing display cover for cleaning

 

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Yes, it’s just easy, I bought mine used and did that first thing.

Joel?
N6ALT

On Aug 23, 2023, at 5:28 PM, Christian <do3rcx@...> wrote:

?Hi X5105-Users!

I have a really stupid question:
There is a lot of dust and dirt under my "outdoor" display cover which is hold by 4 screws.
Can I simply remove the screws to get under the display cover? How do you clean your device?

Best?


Removing display cover for cleaning

 

Hi X5105-Users!

I have a really stupid question:
There is a lot of dust and dirt under my "outdoor" display cover which is hold by 4 screws.
Can I simply remove the screws to get under the display cover? How do you clean your device?

Best?


Re: I need your help - Solved !

Phil Stewart
 

Bruno, that is diligence and cleverness personified!
I hoping to follow your example with my bricked x5105.?
Thanks, Phil K6PHL?


On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 12:22 AM, Bruno
<jackbru01@...> wrote:
Hello,
at the end I was? able to resurrect my X5105 !? I? explain you how .
As described in previous post trying to update the firmware myX5105 remanined in "waitin mode" after having erased completely the firmware.
I had bought from Xiegu.eu? the "original" blu plastic cable, but there was no connectoin beween PC and Radio. In particular there was no letter C? in the monitor?
of Teraterm. Problem was that inside this cable there is a FTDI clone, and? recent drivers from FTDI are disabling the chip. I was? asking Xiegu. Eu for? help and they sent me a new? cable. This time was a FTDI chip cable original, model TTL-232R-3VR-AJ? , USB to TTL Serial 3.3 V.? But also this? cable didn't work . No letter C, confirming the communication and? no sign of activity. My feeling is that even if this cable has surely an original FTDI Chip working with the latest VCP drivers, there is an issue of? contact with the 3.5 mm audio jack that is too short. I've read somewhere that this jack for X5105 has to be a bit longer as the photo hereunder

In the meantime the person that sold me the X5105 ( I had bought second hand)? found the cable that he utilzed to update the firmware in the past and sent it to me.
I connected the cable and ...... the PC? ? read the cable as Prolific chip, a clone? again. In particular in the device? windows manager in the COM port? there was written? "PL03HXA? phased out? since 2012 . Please contact your? supplier" . I was expecting something like that because the Prolific clone? chip issue is known.
An English Dealer? , Sinotel, is publishing a small guide? with instruction to workaround? ???
Inparticular it's explained that it needs to have an old? driver 3.3.2.102? dated 24.09.2008 and is offering a link to download. But the link is wrong, and on his download page? there many prolific drivers? but not? that one .? I found it on the web? here???.? ? After having installed and updated the COM por? with this driver , I had immediatley? signs? of? connection, and the letter? C? appeared on the monitor. I tried to upload the firmare and it worked but the uploading process failed at 24%? every? time. I? don't? know? why. I made several attempts without? success and the % of loading? became everytime smaller? and smaller. I supposed that was an issue connected with the battery. I left the power? cable inserted? for? 1 hour in "waiting" mode . Tried again.... and? success , I? was able to upload the firmware. !
It was a nightmare . It's unbelevable? why Xiegu is not able to offer? cables? that works.? I hope that this? story? could help somebody else that could run in the same trouble. I? wish to thank all of you for the suggestions you gave me . In particular thanks to??Jim? ?G4EQX


Re: I need your help - Solved !

 

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Hi Bruno,

?

Wow, your diligence paid off. What a great thread that I am archiving in case I ever have to FW upgrade. Currently, I am happy with the pre-uploaded 3.0 version.

?

I worked in product development for a number of security hardware manufacturers supporting DVRs and IP Cameras that required periodic FW upgrades. During that discovery phase of flashing from manual to automatic means, we learned a lot about the process and inadvertently “bricked” hundreds of devices.

?

Without this kind of info the chances of bricking a unit is high. Thanks again for sharing and GL with your ventures.

?

Best 73, Lou N2JPR

?

Sent from for Windows

?

From: Jim Mcilroy via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [X5105-Users] I need your help - Solved !

?

Hi

Very pleased you got this resolved.

Happy operating

73

Jim?? G4EQX

On 15/08/2023 09:11, Bruno wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello,
at the end I was? able to resurrect my X5105 !? I? explain you how .
As described in previous post trying to update the firmware my X5105 remained in "waiting mode" after having erased completely the firmware.
I had bought from Xiegu.eu? the "original" blu plastic cable, but there was no connectoin between PC and Radio. In particular there was no letter C? in the monitor?
of Teraterm. Problem was that inside this cable there is a FTDI clone, and? recent drivers from FTDI are disabling the chip. I was? asking Xiegu. Eu for? help and they sent me a new? cable for free. This time was a FTDI chip cable original, model TTL-232R-3VR-AJ? , USB to TTL Serial 3.3 V.? But also this? cable didn't work . No letter C, confirming the communication and? no sign of activity. My feeling is that even if this cable has surely an original FTDI Chip working with the latest VCP drivers, there is an issue of? contact with the 3.5 mm audio jack that is too short. I've read somewhere that this jack for X5105 has to be a bit longer as the photo hereunder

In the meantime the person that sold me the X5105 ( I had bought second hand)? found the cable that he utilzed to update the firmware in the past and sent it to me.
I connected the cable and ...... the PC? ? read the cable as Prolific chip,? but a clone? again. In particular in the device? windows manager in the COM port? there was written? "PL03HXA? phased out? since 2012 . Please contact your? supplier" . I was expecting something like that because the Prolific clone? chip issue is known.
An English dealer? , Sinotel, is publishing a small guide? with instructions to workaround? ???
In particular it's explained that it needs to have an old? driver 3.3.2.102? dated 24.09.2008 and is offering a link to download. But the link is wrong, and on his download page? there are many prolific drivers? but not? that one .? I found it on the web? here???.? ? After having installed and updated the COM port? with this driver , I had immediatley? signs? of? connection, and the letter? C? appeared on the monitor. I tried to upload the firmare and it worked but the uploading process failed at 24%? every? time. I? don't? know? why. I made several attempts without? success and the % of loading? became everytime smaller? and smaller. I supposed that was an issue connected with the battery. I left the power? cable inserted? for? 1 hour in "waiting" mode . Tried again.... and? success , I? was able to upload the firmware. !
It was a nightmare . It's unbelevable? why Xiegu is not able to offer? cables? that works.? I hope that this? story? could help somebody else that could run in the same trouble. I? wish to thank all of you for the suggestions you gave me . In particular thanks to??Jim? ?G4EQX

?


Re: I need your help - Solved !

 

What features does the new firmware have that the previous verion(s) lacked?


Re: I need your help - Solved !

 

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Hi

Very pleased you got this resolved.

Happy operating

73

Jim?? G4EQX

On 15/08/2023 09:11, Bruno wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello,
at the end I was? able to resurrect my X5105 !? I? explain you how .
As described in previous post trying to update the firmware my X5105 remained in "waiting mode" after having erased completely the firmware.
I had bought from Xiegu.eu? the "original" blu plastic cable, but there was no connectoin between PC and Radio. In particular there was no letter C? in the monitor?
of Teraterm. Problem was that inside this cable there is a FTDI clone, and? recent drivers from FTDI are disabling the chip. I was? asking Xiegu. Eu for? help and they sent me a new? cable for free. This time was a FTDI chip cable original, model TTL-232R-3VR-AJ? , USB to TTL Serial 3.3 V.? But also this? cable didn't work . No letter C, confirming the communication and? no sign of activity. My feeling is that even if this cable has surely an original FTDI Chip working with the latest VCP drivers, there is an issue of? contact with the 3.5 mm audio jack that is too short. I've read somewhere that this jack for X5105 has to be a bit longer as the photo hereunder

In the meantime the person that sold me the X5105 ( I had bought second hand)? found the cable that he utilzed to update the firmware in the past and sent it to me.
I connected the cable and ...... the PC? ? read the cable as Prolific chip,? but a clone? again. In particular in the device? windows manager in the COM port? there was written? "PL03HXA? phased out? since 2012 . Please contact your? supplier" . I was expecting something like that because the Prolific clone? chip issue is known.
An English dealer? , Sinotel, is publishing a small guide? with instructions to workaround? ???
In particular it's explained that it needs to have an old? driver 3.3.2.102? dated 24.09.2008 and is offering a link to download. But the link is wrong, and on his download page? there are many prolific drivers? but not? that one .? I found it on the web? here???.? ? After having installed and updated the COM port? with this driver , I had immediatley? signs? of? connection, and the letter? C? appeared on the monitor. I tried to upload the firmare and it worked but the uploading process failed at 24%? every? time. I? don't? know? why. I made several attempts without? success and the % of loading? became everytime smaller? and smaller. I supposed that was an issue connected with the battery. I left the power? cable inserted? for? 1 hour in "waiting" mode . Tried again.... and? success , I? was able to upload the firmware. !
It was a nightmare . It's unbelevable? why Xiegu is not able to offer? cables? that works.? I hope that this? story? could help somebody else that could run in the same trouble. I? wish to thank all of you for the suggestions you gave me . In particular thanks to??Jim? ?G4EQX


Re: I need your help - Solved !

 
Edited

Hello,
at the end I was? able to resurrect my X5105 !? I? explain you how .
As described in previous post trying to update the firmware my X5105 remained in "waiting mode" after having erased completely the firmware.
I had bought from Xiegu.eu? the "original" blu plastic cable, but there was no connectoin between PC and Radio. In particular there was no letter C? in the monitor?
of Teraterm. Problem was that inside this cable there is a FTDI clone, and? recent drivers from FTDI are disabling the chip. I was? asking Xiegu. Eu for? help and they sent me a new? cable for free. This time was a FTDI chip cable original, model TTL-232R-3VR-AJ? , USB to TTL Serial 3.3 V.? But also this? cable didn't work . No letter C, confirming the communication and? no sign of activity. My feeling is that even if this cable has surely an original FTDI Chip working with the latest VCP drivers, there is an issue of? contact with the 3.5 mm audio jack that is too short. I've read somewhere that this jack for X5105 has to be a bit longer as the photo hereunder

In the meantime the person that sold me the X5105 ( I had bought second hand)? found the cable that he utilzed to update the firmware in the past and sent it to me.
I connected the cable and ...... the PC? ? read the cable as Prolific chip,? but a clone? again. In particular in the device? windows manager in the COM port? there was written? "PL03HXA? phased out? since 2012 . Please contact your? supplier" . I was expecting something like that because the Prolific clone? chip issue is known.
An English dealer? , Sinotel, is publishing a small guide? with instructions to workaround? ???
In particular it's explained that it needs to have an old? driver 3.3.2.102? dated 24.09.2008 and is offering a link to download. But the link is wrong, and on his download page? there are many prolific drivers? but not? that one .? I found it on the web? here???.? ? After having installed and updated the COM port? with this driver , I had immediatley? signs? of? connection, and the letter? C? appeared on the monitor. I tried to upload the firmare and it worked but the uploading process failed at 24%? every? time. I? don't? know? why. I made several attempts without? success and the % of loading? became everytime smaller? and smaller. I supposed that was an issue connected with the battery. I left the power? cable inserted? for? 1 hour in "waiting" mode . Tried again.... and? success , I? was able to upload the firmware. !
It was a nightmare . It's unbelevable? why Xiegu is not able to offer? cables? that works.? I hope that this? story? could help somebody else that could run in the same trouble. I? wish to thank all of you for the suggestions you gave me . In particular thanks to??Jim? ?G4EQX


Re: Xiegu 5105 batteries available

 

Great find. Thanks, Norman!


Xiegu 5105 batteries available

 

Connect Systems now has a limited stock of batteries, $79 each?


Re: X5105 Battery?

 

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There are 3 wires, red, white and black, going to a mini molex plug.

Norman W9VQ

On Aug 4, 2023, at 11:03 PM, Tom Flynn via groups.io <tflynn6693@...> wrote:

Norman

The FCC’s tear down pictures show the battery as having a two wire plug. ?Is that what you battery has?

Thanks
--
Tom
AE5NF

Norman Wald
Macintosh & Windows Consulting
312-282-0888
norman@...


Re: X5105 Battery?

 

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 12:03 AM, Tom Flynn wrote:
The FCC’s tear down pictures
Thank you very, very much for mentioning the FCC pictures!
I have not dared to take my X5105 apart, but I really wanted to see what was inside.? And had not remembered that the FCC does make pictures of devices they test.
--------
Doug, K8RFT


Re: X5105 Battery?

 

Norman

The FCC’s tear down pictures show the battery as having a two wire plug. ?Is that what you battery has?

Thanks
--
Tom
AE5NF


Re: X5105 Battery?

Nick Marsh
 

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I would only use a charger designed for the battery chemistry and always use a bms.?

Nick Marsh

Sent from an electronic device with a mind of its own.?


On Aug 4, 2023, at 2:54 PM, Tom Flynn via groups.io <tflynn6693@...> wrote:

?

I figured the battery was made like that I hoped it was not. ?
I have found a few dell “internal” laptop batteries that are very close to current and voltage.

Will it safely charge… we have to be very careful with these batteries.

still thinking

thanks ?
--
Tom
AE5NF


TRe: [X5105-Users] X5105 Battery?

Nick Marsh
 

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DIY is the way to roll but I would definitely use a bms.?

Nick Marsh

Sent from an electronic device with a mind of its own.?


On Aug 4, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Tim W4FX <w4fx@...> wrote:

?Here's a question. I'll qualify this by noting that I'm an OG computer nerd with 4 decades in the business, but fairly new and unschooled as an electronics maker. It's the hazards of being a software guy.

That being said, would it be possible to use three 3.7V lithium polymer batteries in series? Say, something about 3mm thick each, which isn't hard to find. Or would you have to add a separate BMS to charge it, since it's an assembly instead of a single pack? I'm pretty sure that would definitely be the case for LiFePO4, but I don't know about the chemistry for LiPoly.

Since our only other solutions seem to be stuck in Europe, I'm just grabbing at straws at this point.


Re: X5105 Battery?

 
Edited

I figured the battery was made like that I hoped it was not. ?
I have found a few dell “internal” laptop batteries that are very close to current and voltage.

Will it safely charge?… we have to be very careful with these batteries.

still thinking

thanks ?
--
Tom
AE5NF


Re: X5105 Battery?

 

Here's a question. I'll qualify this by noting that I'm an OG computer nerd with 4 decades in the business, but fairly new and unschooled as an electronics maker. It's the hazards of being a software guy.

That being said, would it be possible to use three 3.7V lithium polymer batteries in series? Say, something about 3mm thick each, which isn't hard to find. Or would you have to add a separate BMS to charge it, since it's an assembly instead of a single pack? I'm pretty sure that would definitely be the case for LiFePO4, but I don't know about the chemistry for LiPoly.

Since our only other solutions seem to be stuck in Europe, I'm just grabbing at straws at this point.


Re: X5105 Battery?

 

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Hi Tom,

Although it’s wrapped in really thick plastic, it appears to be constructed of wafers, not individual cells.

Norman W9VQ

On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:39 PM, Tom Flynn via groups.io <tflynn6693@...> wrote:

Norman

since you have the battery out, can you tell me is the battery made up of individual cells if so how many are in the pack or Is the battery a sack like an iPhone battery? ?If it is made up of cells do they feel like AAA batteries?

thanks



--
Tom
AE5NF
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