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Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition
Kirk Johnson
What browser are you using? I use Firefox and Safari, no problems. (on a Mac of course). ? I don't know much about Windoze ExPee. Are you using pop-up and spam blockers? Maybe it's time to update. Kirk ? ? ? Ruari McLennan wrote:
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Re: Anyone else notice....
john gary simpson
well, they break in anyway!
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Re: Anyone else notice....
They do indeed, sir. They just get better and better.
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From: "John " <schnozejt@...> that their W ages like a fine wine? Maybe I'm losing my mind but it seems as if my W sounds way better now that it's 7000 miles old than when I bought it at 1600 miles. |
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Re: I've Done It (I think)
john gary simpson
There two aspects of my enjoyment of bikes.? I like to ride them and I like to tinker with them.? That given, I like to always have ONE that doesn't need tinkering!? My Excelsior henderson always needed tinkering.? Is that the case with the W?
Dick Tym wrote:
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Re: I've Done It (I think)
john gary simpson
That's what I liked about my Hondas, Yamahas and Harleys. It's a;lso what I like about Yamaha and Suzuki outboards.? Too bad I can't say the same about Honda outboards!
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Re: I've Done It (I think)
Top boxes create a low pressure zone behind the rear wheel. They generate drag, but the high pressure air is pushing against the front of the box and does little more than slow the bike. Also, top boxes are invariably sitting in the midst of the turbulence created by the rider. They may well actually marginally improve aerodynmamics by filling in some of that low pressure zone.
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They do however bugger up the C0G...:-) . On the W the low pressure is generated behindf the rider and the rider is forced back into that zone. Because the rider resists being pulled back, the force is directed down through his arse onto the seat which squashes the rear suspension. The pillion fills in that hole and their low pressure zone develops behind them BUT it isa lot less because rider plus pillion make a longer more aerodynamic shape. My Venture has a warnning attached to the trunk lid, it says do not exceed |
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Re: jetting
Thanks Jon
I am hoping the needles help the 2000-3000 RPM surge too. The bike is a CA model with the "Special Needle". I backed the pilot jet screws out 5+ turns and the idle kept going up. So far infact that one of the screws fell out and I lost the spring while I was riding. The Screw looks undamaged as it just sat between the starter and engine. I will order a new screw along with the jets and needles. Mike In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> wrote: make the bike feel lacklustre during warm-up.stock airboxes the 122's will be spot on.....all you need to do is fiddlewith needle height. Start with the needles at their lowest ( leanest) point.at a time will get you to the right place. Look for improvements from4000 to 6000 rpm...That's where the stock ones fall down once decent pipes aredelivery. 17/07/2007:: 18:30 |
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Re: I've Done It (I think)
Dick Tym
That is exactly why I enjoy them. I prefer to spend my spare time riding my bikes not tinkering with them.
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having said that I appreciate the fact that many people do get a lot of pleasure from tinkering Dick ----- Original Message -----
From: "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] I've Done It (I think) Dick, |
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Re: I've Done It (I think)
Dick,
I still have more Hondas than you do...love-em all...what I said was, that Hondas, most Hondas aren't characters like the W is, my CB 900 is a character only because of that dual range transmission. Doesn't mean that I don't enjoy it, just that it, like most of my previous Hondas are turn key and go vehicles with little tinkering required. James Franklin 2411 Pine Summit DR. E Jacksonville, Florida 32211 808-225-0994 (cell) From: Laura <laurauk.rider@...> Reply-To: W650riders@... To: W650riders@... Subject: Re: [W650riders] I've Done It (I think) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:10:34 +0100 sounds like it, blimey. What's wrong with kawasaki? :-) Laura On 19/07/07, Dick Tym <rocker66@...> wrote: _________________________________________________________________ |
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Re: I've Done It (I think)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI think you should offer your services on a
fee-charging consultancy basis and drag out your research just a little bit
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Re: I've Done It (I think)
My Venture has a warnning attached to the trunk lid, it says do not exceed 85 MPH with luggage attached. The Ws I have owned wander at 120 MPH or so (but didn't with Marcia sitting behind me, so I think it is aerodynamics).
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The top box didn't affect the CB 400 F up to where it leveled off at 100 MPH, and I rode the Nighthawk 650 up to 100 MPH without a problem with a box on the back, which doesn't mean that there would not have been a problem, had I gone faster. James Franklin 2411 Pine Summit DR. E Jacksonville, Florida 32211 808-225-0994 (cell) From: "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> Reply-To: W650riders@... To: <W650riders@...> Subject: Re: [W650riders] I've Done It (I think) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:50:58 +0100 You won't get one. The Police one's weave for the same reason the W does...Big coppers punch a big hole in the air and create a BIG low pressure zone. The cops are scratching their heads because their Pans are fitted with up-rated load adjusting shocks but they'll still sometimes but not always weaving at high speed. They've cottoned on to the extra weight thing, but not the torso size of the rider. They haven't yet spotted that its the big chested burly officers that are getting the problems..... Think I should tell 'em? Jon I took it up to speeds in excess of the normal motorway speeds and no weave at all. however mine will have the top box fitted so I will find out if that has an adverse effect Dick ----- Original Message -----
From: Jonhaddock@... To: W650riders@... Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] I've Done It (I think) Cool! Now you can get embroiled in the famous copper killing weave debates that are consuming all the Pan riders at the moment. I spoke to a Pan riding copper last month and I'm pretty sure its the same as the W weave! As some of you will know recently I have been considering a more touring style of appliance. Today I rode tested a ST1300 Pan European. I was offered a really good trade in for my CB1300S against a brand new Pan complete with a package off accessories worth 850 for less than the list price of a standard bike. Hopefully I will be concluding the deal next week Dick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 18/07/2007 15:30 _________________________________________________________________ |
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Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition
I did, Dick, thank you! They are absolutely amazing. "And that wall there, probably about 4000 years old.". Mind boggling.
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From: "Dick Tym" <rocker66@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition Talking of junk mail did you get the photos OK Jake Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Jake" <jake@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition Just by going there, it sends you junk email? Go to temporary photos site - :: Send an email to W650riders-nomail@... to stop email delivery. :: Send an email to W650riders-normal@... to resume email delivery. Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM |
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Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition
my apologies
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Re: Time for tune-up
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From: "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> Date: 2007/07/19 Thu PM 06:07:51 CDT To: W650riders@... Subject: Re: [W650riders] Time for tune-up *** I concur ! ...and make sure your using good gas? Music Matty * Popping on shut throttles is caused by the pilot circuit en-richening screws being set too lean. which they HAVE to be for emissions. The carbs are otherwise jetted OK up to 6000 rpm when they go rich. If that sounds confusing remember that Constant Vacuum carbs ( CV) are opened or closed by the suction effect of the engine...open the butterfly throttles and the engine sucks in air and that suction lifts the carb slide. Your throttle cables are not directly connected to the slide, unlike on conventional slide carbs. Ergo, engine revs determine how much slide lift you get and thus which jets are working. The pilot fuel/air circuit works exclusively up to 1000 rpm at which revs the slide starts to lift, adding the needles controlling influence which increases as revs rise until by 3000 rpm, the needle is the predominant metering system. At 6000rpm the needles come right out and the bike is on pure main jets. These are intentionally too big to cut down noise...correct jetting produces a snarl so the over-rich engine note is somewhat muffled. This muffled high revs note stays under the noise regs and allows the mid-range exhaust note to be more robust. You need to adjust your pilot screws out ...there's notes on this in the files section. That stops the popping. The pinging is probably mechanical...many have commented but in an air-cooled engine where you sit on top of the heads, pinking is actually MUCH louder and nothing like the distant tinkling one hears in a car. A bike has a distinct and loud CRACK when it detonates. Jon
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Re: Time for tune-up
Ruari McLennan
a.k.a. idle mixture adjusting screws. Not the idle speed knob.
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From: "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> Popping on shut throttles is caused by the pilot circuit en-richening screws Pop quiz ('cause I don't know the answer): |
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Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition
Ruari McLennan
You start to see the proper website, but immediatrely a popup starts, consumes your entire screen, and stays there as far as I can tell. I didn't hang around, don't want to give it time to install stuff on my computer.
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Ruari ----- Original Message -----
From: "Captain Jake" <jake@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition Just by going there, it sends you junk email? |
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Re: Time for tune-up
Popping on shut throttles is caused by the pilot circuit en-richening screws being set too lean. which they HAVE to be for emissions.
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The carbs are otherwise jetted OK up to 6000 rpm when they go rich. If that sounds confusing remember that Constant Vacuum carbs ( CV) are opened or closed by the suction effect of the engine...open the butterfly throttles and the engine sucks in air and that suction lifts the carb slide. Your throttle cables are not directly connected to the slide, unlike on conventional slide carbs. Ergo, engine revs determine how much slide lift you get and thus which jets are working. The pilot fuel/air circuit works exclusively up to 1000 rpm at which revs the slide starts to lift, adding the needles controlling influence which increases as revs rise until by 3000 rpm, the needle is the predominant metering system. At 6000rpm the needles come right out and the bike is on pure main jets. These are intentionally too big to cut down noise...correct jetting produces a snarl so the over-rich engine note is somewhat muffled. This muffled high revs note stays under the noise regs and allows the mid-range exhaust note to be more robust. You need to adjust your pilot screws out ...there's notes on this in the files section. That stops the popping. The pinging is probably mechanical...many have commented but in an air-cooled engine where you sit on top of the heads, pinking is actually MUCH louder and nothing like the distant tinkling one hears in a car. A bike has a distinct and loud CRACK when it detonates. Jon
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Re: I've Done It (I think)
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