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Re: Ignition barrel removal

 

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Hi I have been told that they are a torx head security bolt and will have to be drilled out I will be having a go at this in the new year it will be quite a big job lots of parts to remove

On 13/12/2024 23:34, Allan Wyatt via groups.io wrote:

If you live in the US you can get a complete security fastener tool kit at Harbor Freight for around $10.? It should have what you're looking for.? I've yet to run into a security fastener that couldn't be undone with the kit.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 4:12?PM Mark Drury via <retrogrademechanica=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi All,
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can anyone with how to remove the ignition barrel from the yoke? It appears to have some strange security bolts attaching it.?

many thanks
?


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Allan Wyatt
Raconteur and All-Around Curmudgeon



Re: Ignition barrel removal

 

Sorry for the confusion. I looked at mine, and? couldn't think of a solution...that's all.


On Sat, Dec 14, 2024, 3:23?PM Mark Drury via <retrogrademechanica=[email protected]> wrote:
Confused by your response Tom??


Re: Ignition barrel removal

 

Confused by your response Tom??


Re: Ignition barrel removal

 

Huh...no help


On Sat, Dec 14, 2024, 11:30?AM Mark Drury via <retrogrademechanica=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks buddy, I’ve drilled them out and used stud extractors to remove now. The bolts are made from incredibly soft material?


Re: Ignition barrel removal

 

Thanks buddy, I’ve drilled them out and used stud extractors to remove now. The bolts are made from incredibly soft material?


Re: Ignition barrel removal

 

If you live in the US you can get a complete security fastener tool kit at Harbor Freight for around $10.? It should have what you're looking for.? I've yet to run into a security fastener that couldn't be undone with the kit.


On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 4:12?PM Mark Drury via <retrogrademechanica=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi All,
?
can anyone with how to remove the ignition barrel from the yoke? It appears to have some strange security bolts attaching it.?

many thanks
?



--
Allan Wyatt
Raconteur and All-Around Curmudgeon



Ignition barrel removal

 

Hi All,
?
can anyone with how to remove the ignition barrel from the yoke? It appears to have some strange security bolts attaching it.?

many thanks
?


Re: Speed wobble at 45mph-ish

 

Fork oil - recently changed fork oil 10w, brand with higher viscosity (google a fork oil table). ?Made a real difference…?
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I had a wobble but at highway speeds. ?Tires (Michelin classics) didn’t like ?Rain grooves. ?I’ll try a different brand next time. ?In the meantime a steering damper helps … I think it’s an NHK from Japan (I may be wrong on the brand). ?Easy to install but fiddly. ?Works fine, dampens wobble and provides confidence at 70+mph. ?

Maybe a dampener? ?Maybe new tires? ?The only question I have concerns your wobble at lower speeds… higher speed wobble I understand not not at such low speeds. ?

my 2 cents
?
vince?


Re: Speed wobble at 45mph-ish

 

Bike is overloaded and or your fork oil has broken down.? ?Change the fork oil and put new springs in.


On Fri, Dec 6, 2024, 10:47 AM chupaW650 via <chupa88=[email protected]> wrote:
Hey folks,
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I have a 2000 W650 and the bike has developed a speed wobble around 35-45mph in 3rd or 4th gear when I let go of the handlebars.? I don't usually ride without my hands off the bars but I discovered this a while ago when I loosen my grip.? I've since changed tires, rebalanced the front tire, loosened up all the bolts and axle on the front forks to reset the alignment but to no avail.? Curious to see if you guys can think of anything that ay be causing this?
?
I've attached a video of the wobble slowing down from 50mph to around 45mph.? Thanks!
--
2000 W650


Re: Speed wobble at 45mph-ish

 

I played with the rear shocks (Hagons) from level 5-3 and the wobble was still there.? I might have to loosen the rear wheel and double check the alignment again.
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2000 W650


Re: Speed wobble at 45mph-ish

 

Front tire around 28-30 PSI.? I did loosen all the front end bolts to compress the forks and of course, tighten them back to specs.? No crashes except for a few drops over the last 12 years.? Steering head bearings is fine, no notches.??
?
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2000 W650


Re: W650 oil consumption

 

The full mark is about 1/2 way up the sight window. I have about 85,000 km on my 2000 and it shows no appreciable consumption after about 3-4 thousand km per yearly oil change.?
I know, that isn't a lot of mileage per season but that is all I seem to be doing now due to my old age. I like the bike to snooze thru the winter with new oil and filter, ready for next year.
Don in Niagara

On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 2:58?PM Tom Marckese via <tmarckesejr=[email protected]> wrote:
Noticed thru the sight window that oil level drops about every 100 miles on my 2001 with only 8k.


W650 oil consumption

 

Noticed thru the sight window that oil level drops about every 100 miles on my 2001 with only 8k.


Re: Speed wobble at 45mph-ish

 

Front tire pumped to 29-30 psi?

Front forks & axle aligned with the pumping method?

Were the forks ever damaged in a crash?

Checked steering head bearings? Steering is smooth and easy, not notchy, not loose, not slipping?


On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 8:57?AM Rev via <keith.kkr=[email protected]> wrote:

The W650 will wobble when the rear springs are not firm enough for the rider and any rear loads particularly if the rear tyre is soft.

I experienced this and found that the rear springs had been released to the softest setting after a service.

Keith

On 06/12/2024 15:48, chupaW650 via wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hey folks,
?
I have a 2000 W650 and the bike has developed a speed wobble around 35-45mph in 3rd or 4th gear when I let go of the handlebars.? I don't usually ride without my hands off the bars but I discovered this a while ago when I loosen my grip.? I've since changed tires, rebalanced the front tire, loosened up all the bolts and axle on the front forks to reset the alignment but to no avail.? Curious to see if you guys can think of anything that may be causing this?
?
I've attached a video of the wobble slowing down from 50mph to around 45mph.? Thanks!
--
2000 W650


Re: Speed wobble at 45mph-ish

 

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The W650 will wobble when the rear springs are not firm enough for the rider and any rear loads particularly if the rear tyre is soft.

I experienced this and found that the rear springs had been released to the softest setting after a service.

Keith

On 06/12/2024 15:48, chupaW650 via groups.io wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hey folks,
?
I have a 2000 W650 and the bike has developed a speed wobble around 35-45mph in 3rd or 4th gear when I let go of the handlebars.? I don't usually ride without my hands off the bars but I discovered this a while ago when I loosen my grip.? I've since changed tires, rebalanced the front tire, loosened up all the bolts and axle on the front forks to reset the alignment but to no avail.? Curious to see if you guys can think of anything that may be causing this?
?
I've attached a video of the wobble slowing down from 50mph to around 45mph.? Thanks!
--
2000 W650
_._,_._,_


Speed wobble at 45mph-ish

 
Edited

Hey folks,
?
I have a 2000 W650 and the bike has developed a speed wobble around 35-45mph in 3rd or 4th gear when I let go of the handlebars.? I don't usually ride without my hands off the bars but I discovered this a while ago when I loosen my grip.? I've since changed tires, rebalanced the front tire, loosened up all the bolts and axle on the front forks to reset the alignment but to no avail.? Curious to see if you guys can think of anything that may be causing this?
?
I've attached a video of the wobble slowing down from 50mph to around 45mph.? Thanks!
--
2000 W650


Re: Poor idle after slow drop on right side.

 

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On Dec 5, 2024, at 12:51, vijahast via groups.io <vijahast@...> wrote:

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It’s all good. ?Sal Emma suggested Chevron Techron in the float bowls. ?I like that idea but put a whole bottle chevron Techron into a new tank of gas. ?For the last week or so, I’ve run W650 2 or so hours at a time, for nearly every day (got cold in the mornings lately and I’m a fair weather sailor).?

idle is solid, although warm up takes a bit longer … maybe. ?At any rate, I’ll be waiting to replace fuel system components until back-order is fulfilled. ?In the meantime I’ll keep riding!


Re: Poor idle after slow drop on right side.

 

It’s all good. ?Sal Emma suggested Chevron Techron in the float bowls. ?I like that idea but put a whole bottle chevron Techron into a new tank of gas. ?For the last week or so, I’ve run W650 2 or so hours at a time, for nearly every day (got cold in the mornings lately and I’m a fair weather sailor).?

idle is solid, although warm up takes a bit longer … maybe. ?At any rate, I’ll be waiting to replace fuel system components until back-order is fulfilled. ?In the meantime I’ll keep riding!


Re: W800

 

Interesting...thanks for the info....


On Wed, Dec 4, 2024, 11:29?AM Sujit Kirpekar via <kirpekar=[email protected]> wrote:
I have extensively ridden both the 650s and 800s.

They make about the same amount of horsepower, but the 800s definitely make more torque. You can feel it off the line.??

The 800s also feel a little heavier.?

On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:59?AM Sam via <sam.malkinson=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a 2022 w800, which has ~47hp. It's my first bike, so I have nothing to which to compare it.

Sam


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Sam Malkinson
DMD, Cert Perio, FRCD(C), Dip ABPDIS
sent from my Google Pixel 5

On Wed, Dec 4, 2024, 11:32?a.m. Tom Marckese via <tmarckesejr=[email protected]> wrote:
Anyone rode a 2023,or 24 W800 ? Curious about performance as they are reported to have less HP than our 650s...


Re: W800

 

I have extensively ridden both the 650s and 800s.

They make about the same amount of horsepower, but the 800s definitely make more torque. You can feel it off the line.??

The 800s also feel a little heavier.?

On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:59?AM Sam via <sam.malkinson=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a 2022 w800, which has ~47hp. It's my first bike, so I have nothing to which to compare it.

Sam


--
Sam Malkinson
DMD, Cert Perio, FRCD(C), Dip ABPDIS
sent from my Google Pixel 5

On Wed, Dec 4, 2024, 11:32?a.m. Tom Marckese via <tmarckesejr=[email protected]> wrote:
Anyone rode a 2023,or 24 W800 ? Curious about performance as they are reported to have less HP than our 650s...