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Trail rear tyres (like Triumph Scrambler) retaining handling (or 17" rim?)

thejapgrinder
 

Hi Folks

A long shot, but I could do with some advice!

Having bought my W on 7yr old Kaccolade tyres, and cutting down mudgd
etc for a more Scrambler look, I fitted Trail Wing tyres: on the
front, the same one as the new Bonnie Scrambler, but limited choice at
the back due to 18" rim. Chose a TW 302 (130/80 18MC 66S rated).
Looks brilliant - very very knobbly indeed! Spent last summer playing
in Germany, Cz, Slovalia, Poland, Netherlands, and also at home in
Scotland.

Handling great compared to knackered OE tyres.

But I've been cautious with big leans, and think it could poss be
better. I'd like a more road oriented tyre, but keep a trailie look if
I can (eg sort of thing fitted to BMW trailies). But 18" is a struggle.

Only options appear to be TW 302 as present, or Michelin T63 (P rated,
93mph). The T63 looks very knobbly too. Anyone got any experience?

If I keep the W for a while (and I've sold my T140, so I prob will),
I'm thinking of getting the wheel rebuilt with a 17" rim...lots of
tyre choice then! Or is that a bit extreme?

Brendan, Edinburgh


Re: accident - NWC

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Yay, who cares, if the w650 is in the same league as as scooter I'm a chinamam!!!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC

Hi Laura,
I owned a yamaha Majesty scooter for two years and it was brilliant. The only things to watch out for are that a scooter will NOT handle the same as a motorcycle, and you will not have the same engine braking effect when going into bends due to the automatic drive. The instructions will probably tell you that you need to hold the front brake on while pressing the starter otherwise the thing will not work. The reason for this being that if you happened to have the throttle open while pressing the starter, you would take off at a rapid rate to the horizon. Also the starter motor will not work at all if the side stand is down. Sometimes you will probably notice the machine will creep forward on tickover while at lights/crossroads etc as you can never disengage the drive.
Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could never work that one out!!)

________________________________

From: W650riders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Laura
Sent: Thu 27/09/2007 11:56
To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC

I'm getting a real Burgman, no unfortunately not these massive ones but a 125. Street cred galore :cool:

On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@googlemail.com laurauk.rider@googlemail.com> > wrote:

Well the CBF250 is going back and being swapped for a real 'scooter'!! All the other bikes are too high. We went through 2 other scooters first, 2 yamahas but they turned out to be as high or even higher.

The cbf wat too high, missing the left mirror and teh clutch was too loose.

Now I've never ridden a scooter before. How difficult is that going to be?? My front brake is going to be where the clutch lever is I believe and the rear brake where the front brake is (right hand).

deary me, the life of a biker who wants to touch the floor properly.

laura




On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@googlemail.com laurauk.rider@googlemail.com> > wrote:

yeah hit from behiind and the side, he drove the indicator off (which is connected by a steel pin which was bent) and scratched the exhaust pipes on the right. The mudguard was completely crumpled up at the top underneath the mudaguard and the backwheel was stuck. I attach a picture. Bike has gone yesterday for inspection etc.

Laura




On 26/09/2007, Craig < ckrollins1@netzero.net ckrollins1@netzero.net> > wrote:

Laura,

Sorry top hear about the accident, but at least most of the
damage was limited to the bike, and not you.
You say you were waiting to enter a roundabout: does this mean
you were struck from behind?
Are you still riding the Sportster?
Heal well and quickly,

Craig



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Re: accident - NWC

Dick Tym
 

Martin One can only assume that you were not riding in the UK during the 60s.If you were you would know why. Scooter riders have as much in common with bike riders as the mum on the school run has with a rally driver
Dick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Taylor" <martin.taylor@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC


Hi Laura,
Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could never work that one out!!)


Re: Better source for luggage rack?

Jay Brewer
 

Ouch. I didn't know it would even be that much. I want to get the GIVI
side cases. Which ones did you order? Some alternatives to that would
be good.

--- In W650riders@..., "john gary simpson"
<eustisgary@...> wrote:

I ordered from Twisted Thtottle, but they cost $178 PLUS $100 special
order shipping surcharge, AND I wouldn't realistically see the rack
for over two months! I'm not at all sure that I want to confirm THAT
order. Any suggestions?


Re: FW: tyre wear on W 650's

Martin Taylor
 

That sounds encouraging, I hear tales from other bikers of them having to replace tyres every 2 or 3000 miles...but they probably have bikes churning out 3.5 million BHP.

________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of Salvyrider
Sent: Thu 27/09/2007 02:30
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] FW: tyre wear on W 650's



I am heading towards 10000 miles on my Conti Tours <> . The guy who sold them to me uses them on all his bikes and says it's not unusual to get 12 - 13000 out of them. I am going to put on another set this winter. Great tire for me - good grip, wears like iron - but I do not ride very aggressively.


On 9/26/07, Martin Taylor <martin.taylor@... <mailto:martin.taylor@...> > wrote:

Thanks for that info. I know roughly what to expect now. It looks as if the tyres I just replaced were the original ones.


Re: accident - NWC

Martin Taylor
 

p.s. the front brake is on the right.

________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of Laura
Sent: Thu 27/09/2007 11:51
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC



Well the CBF250 is going back and being swapped for a real 'scooter'!! All the other bikes are too high. We went through 2 other scooters first, 2 yamahas but they turned out to be as high or even higher.

The cbf wat too high, missing the left mirror and teh clutch was too loose.

Now I've never ridden a scooter before. How difficult is that going to be?? My front brake is going to be where the clutch lever is I believe and the rear brake where the front brake is (right hand).

deary me, the life of a biker who wants to touch the floor properly.

laura



On 27/09/2007, Laura <laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider@...> > wrote:

yeah hit from behiind and the side, he drove the indicator off (which is connected by a steel pin which was bent) and scratched the exhaust pipes on the right. The mudguard was completely crumpled up at the top underneath the mudaguard and the backwheel was stuck. I attach a picture. Bike has gone yesterday for inspection etc.

Laura




On 26/09/2007, Craig < ckrollins1@... <mailto:ckrollins1@...> > wrote:

Laura,

Sorry top hear about the accident, but at least most of the
damage was limited to the bike, and not you.
You say you were waiting to enter a roundabout: does this mean
you were struck from behind?
Are you still riding the Sportster?
Heal well and quickly,

Craig



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Re: accident - NWC

Martin Taylor
 

Hi Laura,
I owned a yamaha Majesty scooter for two years and it was brilliant. The only things to watch out for are that a scooter will NOT handle the same as a motorcycle, and you will not have the same engine braking effect when going into bends due to the automatic drive. The instructions will probably tell you that you need to hold the front brake on while pressing the starter otherwise the thing will not work. The reason for this being that if you happened to have the throttle open while pressing the starter, you would take off at a rapid rate to the horizon. Also the starter motor will not work at all if the side stand is down. Sometimes you will probably notice the machine will creep forward on tickover while at lights/crossroads etc as you can never disengage the drive.
Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could never work that one out!!)

________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of Laura
Sent: Thu 27/09/2007 11:56
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC



I'm getting a real Burgman, no unfortunately not these massive ones but a 125. Street cred galore :cool:




On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider@...> > wrote:

Well the CBF250 is going back and being swapped for a real 'scooter'!! All the other bikes are too high. We went through 2 other scooters first, 2 yamahas but they turned out to be as high or even higher.

The cbf wat too high, missing the left mirror and teh clutch was too loose.

Now I've never ridden a scooter before. How difficult is that going to be?? My front brake is going to be where the clutch lever is I believe and the rear brake where the front brake is (right hand).

deary me, the life of a biker who wants to touch the floor properly.

laura




On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider@...> > wrote:

yeah hit from behiind and the side, he drove the indicator off (which is connected by a steel pin which was bent) and scratched the exhaust pipes on the right. The mudguard was completely crumpled up at the top underneath the mudaguard and the backwheel was stuck. I attach a picture. Bike has gone yesterday for inspection etc.

Laura




On 26/09/2007, Craig < ckrollins1@... <mailto:ckrollins1@...> > wrote:

Laura,

Sorry top hear about the accident, but at least most of the
damage was limited to the bike, and not you.
You say you were waiting to enter a roundabout: does this mean
you were struck from behind?
Are you still riding the Sportster?
Heal well and quickly,

Craig



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Re: turn signal wiring problem

 

I think I fried something. I tried a 30amp fuse in the taillight
section thinking it would help somehow, I AM AN IDIOT. Nothing works
now! I replaced and inspected the fuses. Still nothing.

Now I am in a bigger mess. Can anybody help?

--- In W650riders@..., Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> wrote:

Yes, the stock rear signals are normally off (they have two wires)
and thus
use a different bulb with only one filament; and the front ones
have three
wires (on all the time) with two filaments in the bulbs. Your
current draw
would appear to be a bit high due to the change you are introducing.
I am
not sure of the answer, though. No good at electrics.

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nelson Arblaster" <narblaster75@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: [W650riders] turn signal wiring problem


I replaced all my signals and the tail light with after market ones.
I am having some problems. The tail light works great with the stock
signals, but once I hooked up the new signals the tail light pops a
fuse each time I turn the bike on. However, the signals all work
properly without the tail light on. My turn signals all have triple
wires. How do I wire the back signals since there is just two wires
going to them? Also, should the rear signals be off when the bike is
on? Trial and error is not working, 5 fuses blown with no luck.





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Re: Doh!

 

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Yeah, it was worth the 5 bucks I gave them.
?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Doh!

Well, Dennis, I am not used to my computer repeatedly shouting, "Doh!" at me at the top of its lungs, dam' near jumped outta my seat.? The kids left the volume control up, I guess.
?
Ruari


Re: turn signal wiring problem

Ruari McLennan
 

Yes, the stock rear signals are normally off (they have two wires) and thus use a different bulb with only one filament; and the front ones have three wires (on all the time) with two filaments in the bulbs. Your current draw would appear to be a bit high due to the change you are introducing. I am not sure of the answer, though. No good at electrics.

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nelson Arblaster" <narblaster75@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: [W650riders] turn signal wiring problem


I replaced all my signals and the tail light with after market ones.
I am having some problems. The tail light works great with the stock
signals, but once I hooked up the new signals the tail light pops a
fuse each time I turn the bike on. However, the signals all work
properly without the tail light on. My turn signals all have triple
wires. How do I wire the back signals since there is just two wires
going to them? Also, should the rear signals be off when the bike is
on? Trial and error is not working, 5 fuses blown with no luck.





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Doh!

Ruari McLennan
 

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Well, Dennis, I am not used to my computer repeatedly shouting, "Doh!" at me at the top of its lungs, dam' near jumped outta my seat.? The kids left the volume control up, I guess.
?
Ruari


Re: Fw: Kawi Versys

 

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Needs another 6700 miles on it b4 I can bring it across the border.
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Fitch
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:02 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Fw: Kawi Versys

This is on the Oregon coast about 25 miles up the road from me. Seems like the guy could do something with the bars, but what the hey...
?
Anybody interested?
?
?
----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: Kawi Versys

Friend of mine who works at Englanders Marine in Coos Bay told me he bought one of the new Versys, rode it for 800 miles and it's for sale. Claims the riding position causes corporal carpal?tunnel or whatever the hell that gimpy wrist thing is, so he's going back to riding his old sports bike. Odd but true so if you know anyone who's looking for a cheap buy on one let me know.


Re: NWC: Massive Crash! Rider posts his wreck on MCN

 

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The way I read it, it seems he didn't look both ways before proceeding.? ;->
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gene in OR

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:40 PM
Subject: [W650riders] NWC: Massive Crash! Rider posts his wreck on MCN

This "Massive Crash!" on MCN was posted by a member of the Ninja 650R group. What makes it so special is the photos marked up by the rider explaining the crash. I hope I have that much good humor if/when I get nailed (again).
?
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Dennis


Fw: Kawi Versys

 

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This is on the Oregon coast about 25 miles up the road from me. Seems like the guy could do something with the bars, but what the hey...
?
Anybody interested?
?
?

----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: Kawi Versys

Friend of mine who works at Englanders


NWC: Classic YouTube Clip: 1982 Daytona Superbike Race

 

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Re: NWC: National Ask A Stupid Question Day

 

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Charles
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"Does that include dumb posts too?"
?
This qualifies as your dumb question for today.
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Dennis? ;^)

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:59 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: NWC: National Ask A Stupid Question Day

"So, if you've been holding back from asking that dumb question for
fear of ridicule, shyness, lowering your stature in the group..."

Does that include dumb posts too?

If so, I posted mine a day early.

:-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--- In W650riders@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis J. Guggemos"
.> wrote:
>
> So, if you've been holding back from asking that dumb question for
fear of ridicule, shyness, lowering your stature in the group or
whatever, cut loose. This is the 1 day you can take that chance and
be assured that there are likely many more stupid queries flying
around than you can come up with.
>


Re: NWC: National Ask A Stupid Question Day

 

"So, if you've been holding back from asking that dumb question for
fear of ridicule, shyness, lowering your stature in the group..."


Does that include dumb posts too?

If so, I posted mine a day early.

:-)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


--- In W650riders@..., "Dennis J. Guggemos"
<djguggms@...> wrote:

So, if you've been holding back from asking that dumb question for
fear of ridicule, shyness, lowering your stature in the group or
whatever, cut loose. This is the 1 day you can take that chance and
be assured that there are likely many more stupid queries flying
around than you can come up with.


The best day off.

Murray
 

Yesterday (Friday) I had to have the morning off to look after three
of
the kids (School holidays), while Jen took the little one to the
optomitrist. Had a good morning, went and got the boat trailer road
legal ready for Monday, opening day for the trout fishing season.

Just before lunchtime I was reading the paper and having a coffee
when
my boss phoned to say she had dealt with the urgent jobs I was going
to
do in the afternoon. She asked, seeing as it was a lovely day, if I'd
like to have the afternoon off as well and make a 4 day weekend. No
second thoughts needed there.

So within about 2 minutes I had the bike out and the gear ready. Jen
came home about 5 minutes later and was quite happy for me to
disappear
for the afternoon.

I decided to go to the Bealey Hotel which is on the Eastern side of
Arthurs Pass from here. This is an Alpine pass through the Southern
Alps. The ride was brillent. I live on the coast so we are going from
sea level to the mountains. The roads are all good with everyting
from
open farmland to bush right down to the edge of the road, tight
twisty
stuff and enjoyable sweeping bends as well. The ride there took just
over an hour and was about 100km's. I had a relax at the pub and
enjoyed the scenery for an hour and headed home. I turned off at
Jacksons to come home around Lake Brunner to have some different
scenery. All up it was a 230Km trip.

A great day. I learnt that my bike will do 200km's before hitting
reserve. I struck a patch of rain grooves on a bend in the mountains
and know what you mean when you say the front tyre will follow the
grooves! A guy in the car park came over for a chat and was very
impressed with the W650.

I should have taken my camera, I took some photo's with my phone but
they are pretty small when put on the computer, next time.

Cheers
Murray


NWC: Massive Crash! Rider posts his wreck on MCN

 

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This "Massive Crash!" on MCN was posted by a member of the Ninja 650R group. What makes it so special is the photos marked up by the rider explaining the crash. I hope I have that much good humor if/when I get nailed (again).
?
?
Dennis


turn signal wiring problem

 

I replaced all my signals and the tail light with after market ones.
I am having some problems. The tail light works great with the stock
signals, but once I hooked up the new signals the tail light pops a
fuse each time I turn the bike on. However, the signals all work
properly without the tail light on. My turn signals all have triple
wires. How do I wire the back signals since there is just two wires
going to them? Also, should the rear signals be off when the bike is
on? Trial and error is not working, 5 fuses blown with no luck.