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Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

 

Remember that the W is a machine, it is not a Honda appliance..there will be whirls and whistles, and a clunk every now and then..this bike has character, and it just may take a character to own one.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 08:46:35 -0000

Bl**dy typical I spend ages looking for a minter and get one that is
virtually spotless, with a full service history, that has obviously
been well cared for by the owner, not thrashed and it is a
***problem*** bike. I have decided that if I can't get it sorted by
the end of the summer then I am going to get rid of it and look for
something else....I am so p*ssed of right now. The bikes are not going
well, we have just got some work, which means my dream of going to Uni
is over....Arrgghh



--- In W650riders@..., "Ruari McLennan" <r.mclennan@...>
wrote:

Also, Nige, I forget what oil weight you are using, if it's 20W-50 go
to 10W-40. I assume your clutch lever is adjusted OK.

If these suggestions don't work, see if you can get to ride with and
swap with another W owner. There are more of you closer together
over there.

Perhaps you have a typical W650, but it doesn't sound like it, it
unfortunately sounds like you may have a problem bike, and if you get
to compare with another you'll know.

Ruari


--- In W650riders@..., "leeferiksen" <lief_e@> wrote:

The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below
the
max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch
drags
a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and
lower
lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).

Lief.
_________________________________________________________________
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

 

My Ninja 600 was pretty bad about the clutch sticking on first start of the day, my cure was, put the bike in first gear, then start it, with the clutch in of course..it might be just a little more work for the starter, but it makes for less gear shavings in the tranny...



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





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Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: <W650riders@...>
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:47:36 +0100


I always snick it into first as the motor runs down off a throttle
blip...and I have the front brake on as I do. It still graunches a bit, but
it doesn't leap forward! Trouble is, you can't 'free the clutch' like on the
old Triumphs because the kickstart is through the gearbox and propels the
bike forward w3hen the bike's in gear.

Jon



I don't know why, but perhaps it goes in


That's incredible mileage. I'm surprised he ever went over 30 mph!

A mystery. Here's my start-off procedure if you think it'll help. Got it
by
amalgamating others' on this group. Sorry to teach granny to suck eggs,
but
I wondered if it's something to do with going into gear at the higher
revs
you keep mentioning.

I always warm her a bit up to 2000-2250 with the choke on, and shove in
the
choke completely before heading off. This prevents me forgetting to put
it
in later and fouling the plugs, which doesn't take long if you ride with
the
choke out. . This procedure takes a few minutes in winter and right now,
in
the good weather with my richer #38 pilot jet in, only 20-30 seconds. So
when I put her into first with the clutch disengaged, while idling at
maybe
200-500, I have no revs going at all hardly. So little scrunching going
on. Then I rev up to 2000-2500 at least and let in the clutch and chug
up
my steep driveway.

About 50% of the time mine goes into 1st fine but gives a big jump and
graunch of protest, esp. if cold. I think it's the clutch sticking. If
I
don't pull firmly & fast from first into second it'll graunch there too.
Going down I have to be firm and fast on the tap or it might do the same
from second-first.

I've forgotten how many miles are on it, have the valves been adjusted?
(thinking bags of nails sounds). Never had electrical whines or bevel
whines (touch wood).

Remember, many say this bike loves a good "thrashing, "caning" etc. I
have
resolved never to baby mine, I twist that throttle whenever I can even if
just to get up to revs in town. More fun.

Go compare with another W, ride it hard for a while, and see.
R.



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Re: Today...

 

I have trying to get my son Mike to ride the W around, I am sending him this as it just might give him incentive to be one of only two Ws at the Rock Store. The Rock Store is where I saw my first ever MV Augusta, and Muholland HWY was the first place I ever went 150 MPH (that was on a friends FZR 1000).



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: Anita Reid <anita_reid@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Today...
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:30:56 -0700 (PDT)

Haven't seen another W here in the Los Angeles area either. We ride almost every Sunday to the Rockstore in Malibu, Cali, where you see pretty much every kind of motorcycle. Jay Leno always rides up with bizarre looking bikes or cars. Every time I ride up on the W, people just gather around it because they never seen one and most have no idea what it is. Matter of fact my husband was a little upset (haha) everyone is checking out my bike and not his pristine cafe racer 04 Triumph Thruxton.

ksufanatic342 <ksufanatic@...> wrote: Here in the city I had NEVER seen another dub. Then in one day we had TWO come to our
shop! LOL..Then I took the little one to a parade for the 4th and there was one in the
parade. (Green and creme) I almost started to think that Kawi started making them again!

--- In W650riders@..., "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> wrote:
>
> I am never on my W when I come accross another one....besides in the
> showroom, I can't remember seeing two of them in one place.
>
> With litterally thousands of bikes in Daytona, I saw only one other W, and
> we were going in opposite directions.
>
>
>
> James Franklin
> 2411 Pine Summit DR. E
> Jacksonville, Florida 32211
>
> 808-225-0994 (cell)
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Tachokay@...
> Reply-To: W650riders@...
> To: W650riders@...
> Subject: Re: [W650riders] Today...
> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:18:50 EDT
>
> Dude! My Dub, of course!
>
> In a message dated 7/7/2007 5:57:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jimw650@... writes:
> >
> >
> > For this chance encounter, were you on your W or V-Star?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Rrrose.
> @>-->--
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
>

_________________________________________________________________
Re: Today...

 

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James
I might be dreaming, but I think the early DT-1 may have been bi-sexual is this way too.
?
Dennis
?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Today...

All the Ws were left hand shift, as most Japanese bikes have been.

Some, like the Bridgestone GTX 350, or the Yamaha XS 750 had the gear shift
shaft go out on both sides though, so they could go either way.

James Franklin

.
Re: Today...

 

All the Ws were left hand shift, as most Japanese bikes have been.

Some, like the Bridgestone GTX 350, or the Yamaha XS 750 had the gear shift shaft go out on both sides though, so they could go either way.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: Salvyrider <salvyrider@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Today...
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:22:01 -0400

Speaking of Dover - a friend asked if all the Dubs were left-side shift and
I did not know the answer. Left or right in the UK and Japan? Thanks.

-S

On 7/9/07, Dick Tym <rocker66@...> wrote:

I saw a maroon/cream W on the A" between Dover & Canterbury this
morning which looked as though it had probably just come off the ferry
Dick
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Re: Today...

 

Re: Today...

Dick Tym
 

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I saw a maroon/cream W on the A" between Dover & Canterbury this morning which looked as though it had probably just come off the ferry
Dick

----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Today...

Haven't seen another W here in the Los Angeles area either. We ride almost every Sunday to the Rockstore in Malibu, Cali, where you see pretty much every kind of motorcycle. Jay Leno always rides up with bizarre looking bikes or cars. Every time I ride up on the W, people just gather around it because they never seen one and most have no idea what it is. Matter of fact my husband was a little upset (haha) everyone is checking out my bike and not his pristine cafe racer 04 Triumph Thruxton.

ksufanatic342 wrote:
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Re: Next trip NWC

Dick Tym
 

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One of the reasons for going to Exeter is travel along the front at Dawlish. A trip I have always wanted to do
Dick

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

A trip on the GUnnislake branch is worth it, as is Liskeard to Looe.? The only time I’ve seen a kingfisher live properly was back in the mists of time when I managed the drivers at Liskeard – all two of them – and my “visit” was at shift changeover to take a ride don the branch with the early turn man and back, and then do the same with the late turn man.? Coming out of Looe a kingfisher flew up the river beside us for about 200 yards

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?

?
Re: Today...

Anita Reid
 

Haven't seen another W here in the Los Angeles area either. We ride almost every Sunday to the Rockstore in Malibu, Cali, where you see pretty much every kind of motorcycle. Jay Leno always rides up with bizarre looking bikes or cars. Every time I ride up on the W, people just gather around it because they never seen one and most have no idea what it is. Matter of fact my husband was a little upset (haha) everyone is checking out my bike and not his pristine cafe racer 04 Triumph Thruxton.

ksufanatic342 wrote:

Here in the city I had NEVER seen another dub. Then in one day we had TWO come to our
shop! LOL..Then I took the little one to a parade for the 4th and there was one in the
parade. (Green and creme) I almost started to think that Kawi started making them again!

--- In W650riders@yahoogroups.com, "James Franklin" > wrote:
>
> I am never on my W when I come accross another one....besides in the
> showroom, I can't remember seeing two of them in one place.
>
> With litterally thousands of bikes in Daytona, I saw only one other W, and
> we were going in opposite directions.
>
>
>
> James Franklin
> 2411 Pine Summit DR. E
> Jacksonville, Florida 32211
>
> 808-225-0994 (cell)
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Tachokay@...
> Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
> To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [W650riders] Today...
> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:18:50 EDT
>
> Dude! My Dub, of course!
>
> In a message dated 7/7/2007 5:57:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jimw650@... writes:
> >
> >
> > For this chance encounter, were you on your W or V-Star?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Rrrose.
> @>-->--
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
>
Re: Next trip NWC

Larry Botheras
 

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A trip on the GUnnislake branch is worth it, as is Liskeard to Looe.? The only time I’ve seen a kingfisher live properly was back in the mists of time when I managed the drivers at Liskeard – all two of them – and my “visit” was at shift changeover to take a ride don the branch with the early turn man and back, and then do the same with the late turn man.? Coming out of Looe a kingfisher flew up the river beside us for about 200 yards

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?

From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of Dick Tym
Sent: 09 July 2007 19:50
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

?

Wet weather plans are The Eden project and/or a day in Exeter

Dick

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:35 PM

Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

?

…Ooops looking at our forecast, but BBC Website for Bodmin give half and half.? Only light rain for? Wednesday, and bit heavier Friday, with the rest fine

?

There are some good places to get out to down there, but unfortunately not many close to train stations…? If you get a chance, Morwellham Quay on the Tamar is good. A restored mineral port.?

?

Don’t eat too many oggies!

?

?

Larry Botheras (the site resident Cornishman)

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?
Re: Seeking advice on long-term storage

 

Re: Today...

ksufanatic342
 

Here in the city I had NEVER seen another dub. Then in one day we had TWO come to our
shop! LOL..Then I took the little one to a parade for the 4th and there was one in the
parade. (Green and creme) I almost started to think that Kawi started making them again!

--- In W650riders@..., "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> wrote:

I am never on my W when I come accross another one....besides in the
showroom, I can't remember seeing two of them in one place.

With litterally thousands of bikes in Daytona, I saw only one other W, and
we were going in opposite directions.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: Tachokay@...
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Today...
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:18:50 EDT

Dude! My Dub, of course!

In a message dated 7/7/2007 5:57:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jimw650@... writes:
>
>
> For this chance encounter, were you on your W or V-Star?
>
>
>


Rrrose.
@>-->--

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Re: Next trip NWC

Dick Tym
 

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Wet weather plans are The Eden project and/or a day in Exeter
Dick

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

…Ooops looking at our forecast, but BBC Website for Bodmin give half and half.? Only light rain for? Wednesday, and bit heavier Friday, with the rest fine

?

There are some good places to get out to down there, but unfortunately not many close to train stations…? If you get a chance, Morwellham Quay on the Tamar is good. A restored mineral port.?

?

Don’t eat too many oggies!

?

?

Larry Botheras (the site resident Cornishman)

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

Larry Botheras
 

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A lot of wet clutches “stick” when starting up.? Start up with the clutch lever pulled in, and as others have said engage first with the brake on.? The GTR would leap forward if it had been stopped for a while unless you did that

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?

I always snick it into first as the motor runs down off a throttle
blip...and I have the front brake on as I do. It still graunches a bit, but
it doesn't leap forward! Trouble is, you can't 'free the clutch' like on the
old Triumphs because the kickstart is through the gearbox and propels the
bike forward w3hen the bike's in gear.

Jon

I don't know why, but perhaps it goes in

> That's incredible mileage. I'm surprised he ever went over 30 mph!
>
> A mystery. Here's my start-off procedure if you think it'll help. Got it
> by
> amalgamating others' on this group. Sorry to teach granny to suck eggs,
> but
> I wondered if it's something to do with going into gear at the higher revs
> you keep mentioning.
>
> I always warm her a bit up to 2000-2250 with the choke on, and shove in
> the
> choke completely before heading off. This prevents me forgetting to put
> it
> in later and fouling the plugs, which doesn't take long if you ride with
> the
> choke out. . This procedure takes a few minutes in winter and right now,
> in
> the good weather with my richer #38 pilot jet in, only 20-30 seconds. So
> when I put her into first with the clutch disengaged, while idling at
> maybe
> 200-500, I have no revs going at all hardly. So little scrunching going
> on. Then I rev up to 2000-2500 at least and let in the clutch and chug up
> my steep driveway.
>
> About 50% of the time mine goes into 1st fine but gives a big jump and
> graunch of protest, esp. if cold. I think it's the clutch sticking. If I
> don't pull firmly & fast from first into second it'll graunch there too.
> Going down I have to be firm and fast on the tap or it might do the same
> from second-first.
>
> I've forgotten how many miles are on it, have the valves been adjusted?
> (thinking bags of nails sounds). Never had electrical whines or bevel
> whines (touch wood).
>
> Remember, many say this bike loves a good "thrashing, "caning" etc. I
> have
> resolved never to baby mine, I twist that throttle whenever I can even if
> just to get up to revs in town. More fun.
>
> Go compare with another W, ride it hard for a while, and see.
> R.
>
>
>
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Re: Next trip NWC

Larry Botheras
 

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…Ooops looking at our forecast, but BBC Website for Bodmin give half and half.? Only light rain for? Wednesday, and bit heavier Friday, with the rest fine

?

There are some good places to get out to down there, but unfortunately not many close to train stations…? If you get a chance, Morwellham Quay on the Tamar is good. A restored mineral port.?

?

Don’t eat too many oggies!

?

?

Larry Botheras (the site resident Cornishman)

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?

From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of Dick Tym
Sent: 09 July 2007 14:34
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

?

Thanks Nige I'm sure we will. If it rains we have planned some trios out on the train especially as it cost us nothing.

You must tell me which forecast you are using as the ones I have seen on TV & on line are giving sunshine & showers

Dick

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:10 PM

Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

?

Well at last the forecast is dry for the next few days…? Have a good one…

?

?
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

 

I always snick it into first as the motor runs down off a throttle blip...and I have the front brake on as I do. It still graunches a bit, but it doesn't leap forward! Trouble is, you can't 'free the clutch' like on the old Triumphs because the kickstart is through the gearbox and propels the bike forward w3hen the bike's in gear.

Jon



I don't know why, but perhaps it goes in

That's incredible mileage. I'm surprised he ever went over 30 mph!

A mystery. Here's my start-off procedure if you think it'll help. Got it by
amalgamating others' on this group. Sorry to teach granny to suck eggs, but
I wondered if it's something to do with going into gear at the higher revs
you keep mentioning.

I always warm her a bit up to 2000-2250 with the choke on, and shove in the
choke completely before heading off. This prevents me forgetting to put it
in later and fouling the plugs, which doesn't take long if you ride with the
choke out. . This procedure takes a few minutes in winter and right now, in
the good weather with my richer #38 pilot jet in, only 20-30 seconds. So
when I put her into first with the clutch disengaged, while idling at maybe
200-500, I have no revs going at all hardly. So little scrunching going
on. Then I rev up to 2000-2500 at least and let in the clutch and chug up
my steep driveway.

About 50% of the time mine goes into 1st fine but gives a big jump and
graunch of protest, esp. if cold. I think it's the clutch sticking. If I
don't pull firmly & fast from first into second it'll graunch there too.
Going down I have to be firm and fast on the tap or it might do the same
from second-first.

I've forgotten how many miles are on it, have the valves been adjusted?
(thinking bags of nails sounds). Never had electrical whines or bevel
whines (touch wood).

Remember, many say this bike loves a good "thrashing, "caning" etc. I have
resolved never to baby mine, I twist that throttle whenever I can even if
just to get up to revs in town. More fun.

Go compare with another W, ride it hard for a while, and see.
R.



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Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

Ruari McLennan
 

That's incredible mileage. I'm surprised he ever went over 30 mph!

A mystery. Here's my start-off procedure if you think it'll help. Got it by amalgamating others' on this group. Sorry to teach granny to suck eggs, but I wondered if it's something to do with going into gear at the higher revs you keep mentioning.

I always warm her a bit up to 2000-2250 with the choke on, and shove in the choke completely before heading off. This prevents me forgetting to put it in later and fouling the plugs, which doesn't take long if you ride with the choke out. . This procedure takes a few minutes in winter and right now, in the good weather with my richer #38 pilot jet in, only 20-30 seconds. So when I put her into first with the clutch disengaged, while idling at maybe 200-500, I have no revs going at all hardly. So little scrunching going on. Then I rev up to 2000-2500 at least and let in the clutch and chug up my steep driveway.

About 50% of the time mine goes into 1st fine but gives a big jump and graunch of protest, esp. if cold. I think it's the clutch sticking. If I don't pull firmly & fast from first into second it'll graunch there too. Going down I have to be firm and fast on the tap or it might do the same from second-first.

I've forgotten how many miles are on it, have the valves been adjusted? (thinking bags of nails sounds). Never had electrical whines or bevel whines (touch wood).

Remember, many say this bike loves a good "thrashing, "caning" etc. I have resolved never to baby mine, I twist that throttle whenever I can even if just to get up to revs in town. More fun.

Go compare with another W, ride it hard for a while, and see.
R.
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

 

Make sure the shift lever in snug on the shaft. These bikes have a
pretty long throw and if the lever is loose you can have problems with
getting a positive gear change.

Leonard

--- In W650riders@..., "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...>
wrote:
Even so, once
warm she still crunches from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd. The
rest of gears are sweet going up and not to bad coming down the box.
Re: Next trip NWC

Dick Tym
 

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Thanks Nige I'm sure we will. If it rains we have planned some trios out on the train especially as it cost us nothing.
You must tell me which forecast you are using as the ones I have seen on TV & on line are giving sunshine & showers
Dick

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

Well at last the forecast is dry for the next few days…? Have a good one…

?

?
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

nige_1959
 

No I didn't test ride, other than a 50 yard burst up the road, the
gear change didn't clunk, and on the back of one other. And yes you
are right every little noise I will be jumping all over. As to being
pleased, I love the torque and the fact it romps reasonably quickly up
to 90, which, as I was expecting it to actually be slower
accelerating, than it is is a bonus.

--- In W650riders@..., "Larry Botheras"
<larry.botheras@...> wrote:

Nige,



You really need to get it alongside another w650 to compare like for
like.
Right now you are sensitised to the slightest little thing, and the
glass is
going to be half empty rather than half full. It doesn't sound to
me that
there is anything major wrong with the bike and that some of the
issues are
just "getting used" issues with any new bike.



I don't know whether you test rode before you bought (other than the
bike
you bought) but it is possible to "believe" you want a particular
bike so
much, but when you ride it , you feel let down - mainly by its
failure to
live up to expectations. I know when I got the first GTR, I
actually wanted
a 900 Trophy triple. I rode the GTR first and was pleasantly surprised.
Then I rode the Trophy and thought it was poor. I was gutted.





Larry Botheras



Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo







From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On
Behalf Of nige_1959
Sent: 09 July 2007 09:47
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether
I hate
my...



Bl**dy typical I spend ages looking for a minter and get one that is
virtually spotless, with a full service history, that has obviously
been well cared for by the owner, not thrashed and it is a
***problem*** bike. I have decided that if I can't get it sorted by
the end of the summer then I am going to get rid of it and look for
something else....I am so p*ssed of right now. The bikes are not going
well, we have just got some work, which means my dream of going to Uni
is over....Arrgghh

--- In W650riders@...
<mailto:W650riders%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Ruari McLennan" <r.mclennan@>
wrote:

Also, Nige, I forget what oil weight you are using, if it's 20W-50 go
to 10W-40. I assume your clutch lever is adjusted OK.

If these suggestions don't work, see if you can get to ride with and
swap with another W owner. There are more of you closer together
over there.

Perhaps you have a typical W650, but it doesn't sound like it, it
unfortunately sounds like you may have a problem bike, and if you get
to compare with another you'll know.

Ruari


--- In W650riders@...
<mailto:W650riders%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"leeferiksen" <lief_e@> wrote:

The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below
the
max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch
drags
a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and
lower
lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).

Lief.
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