They always graunch into first from cold. I just hold the front
brake and
push it through.

The whine is simply the bevel. It's just snug. In the manual there is
a note
about adjustment and it talks about whether it is preferable to have
a whine
when cold or hot. Mine whines cold but rattles a bit when hot. Yours
sounds
lovely and tight. As you use it the whine will diminish. I suspect
it's been
ridden very gently and needs running in.

The 'electrical' whine is common and is actually something else. I
suspect
it is a pressure differential somewhere. If you disconnect the
battery it
carries on!. The W has a fairly clever anti-vapour system in the tank
and I
reckon that has something to do with it.

My car however really does whine when stopped and turned off. . If
you open
a door the active suspension computer wakes up and makes a whine for
30
seconds while it waits for someone to get in so it can adjust the
spring
rates!

Jon


--- In W650riders@..., "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...>
wrote:

bl**dy W or like it.

The oil was over filled, as I said before, and today I dropped

600ml

out to get to just below the maximum mark. The syringe method

didn't

work as I couldn't the flexible hose past the last gear on the
cluster. However Ruari's idea of putting the bike on the

centrestand

and then putting same size bits of wood under the front and rear
wheels worked a treat. I had already checked the rear sprocket and
the chain, which has no tight spot and is perfectly adjusted.The
clutch lever is also by the book as regards free play at the lever
and I took my heated grips off, as they meant I lost half an inch

of

travel on the lever. Due to the cr*p weather this was the first
time O had started it since June 1st. I keep her hooked up to
Optimate trickle charger, still took a couple of dabs on the

starter

but off she went. I tried to put her in to 1st only to receive a
baulk and a scrunch. However I then figured it might because I am
trying at too high a revs. SO I blipped the throttle a few time and
dobbed the choke in and wey hay into 1st she went. Even so, once
warm she still crunches from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd. The
rest of gears are sweet going up and not to bad coming down the

box.

There is a whine once the revs hit 3.5k, regardless of gear, and as
a result I am getting more and more p*ssed off with this damn bike.
Went for 45 minute run through the country lanes, topped off with a
90mph ride back down some dual-carriageway (allegedly officer).Park
her up and then started working on my RZ, go back into the garage

to

hear a high pitched, low volume, electrical whine...now I am

getting

to the stage where I want to ship this bike out and replace it with
a Honda! The noise has now gone without me finding out exactly what
it was....obvious suspect is the alarm.

I am more worried about the whine at 3.5k and above...anyone else
got this? Could this be result of me turning the bike off when the
revs were up and hearing a terrible clunk, as the pistons stopped
dead, as I previously described...I certain don't remember the

whine

before! :>(

On the flip side this bike is so forgiving, it doesn't matter what
revs you go into a corner at, as she will pull out of the bend. It
is nice to bimble along at slow speeds. My route was through some
pretty villages, with thatched cottages and down lovely twisty
roads. And then to hit dual-carriageway and shoot past a Ninja and

a

Suzuki GS500 at 85-90mph (allegedly). So atht emoment it is a love-
hate relationship, which, as this was meant to be my reliable, no
tinker, bike is a bit disappointing!

In addition I decided to do a gearbox change on the RZ, removing

the

black 3 year old oil and replacing with the Silkolene Light Gear

Oil

(as used by many on the forum) to end up with sticker gearchanges
and a buzzing noise (like a nut loose) than I had using the rubbish
that was in there....not a good weekend!

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--- In W650riders@..., "Dennis J. Guggemos" <djguggms@...>
wrote:

quick-
lube_W0QQitemZ300127998145QQihZ020QQcategoryZ9946QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewIt
em

Has any one used the dry chain lub's I see advertised, eg Wurth. Are
they any good?
3 months into the 'w' and I am loving it! Keep turning in 75mpg, is
this reasonable? Even been out in the rain twice, it's either that or
stay in at the moment.

Bl**dy typical I spend ages looking for a minter and get one that is
virtually spotless, with a full service history, that has obviously
been well cared for by the owner, not thrashed and it is a
***problem*** bike. I have decided that if I can't get it sorted by
the end of the summer then I am going to get rid of it and look for
something else....I am so p*ssed of right now. The bikes are not going
well, we have just got some work, which means my dream of going to Uni
is over....Arrgghh



--- In W650riders@..., "Ruari McLennan" <r.mclennan@...>
wrote:

Also, Nige, I forget what oil weight you are using, if it's 20W-50 go
to 10W-40. I assume your clutch lever is adjusted OK.

If these suggestions don't work, see if you can get to ride with and
swap with another W owner. There are more of you closer together
over there.

Perhaps you have a typical W650, but it doesn't sound like it, it
unfortunately sounds like you may have a problem bike, and if you get
to compare with another you'll know.

Ruari


--- In W650riders@..., "leeferiksen" <lief_e@> wrote:

The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below

the

max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch

drags

a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and

lower

lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).

Lief.

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=====================
From: Tachokay@...
Date: 2007/07/07 Sat PM 04:49:28 CDT
To: tjhalstead@..., W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Today...

Very Cool Rose....it's time for a ride with Harwood? Lets' do a ride this Saturday if it's rain free.
Matty




So I was riding on MacArthur Blvd this afternoon, and some dude wanted to turn left onto a street I was going to turn right into.?? I kinda did a double take at the front of his bike, it looked so familiar... He turned onto the street right behind me and followed me for several miles.?? I kept looking in my rear-view... Dang, that bike profile looked familiar! We finally pulled up at a light, and I looked over at his bike -- Nice Bike, I said. Likewise, he said!

His name is TJ, he lives in DC, he bought his 2000 Dub last year from someone in Frederick, and he didn't know about this group -- so I told him.?? I sure hope I wrote down his e-mail addy correctly!

That was so cool!?? There's no mods on his bike that I noticed, either, and it's pristine.?? Not like my poor SAKI who's feeling her 50K miles!?? :)

So that's my excitement for today.

Rrrose.
@>-->--

Also, Nige, I forget what oil weight you are using, if it's 20W-50 go
to 10W-40. I assume your clutch lever is adjusted OK.

If these suggestions don't work, see if you can get to ride with and
swap with another W owner. There are more of you closer together
over there.

Perhaps you have a typical W650, but it doesn't sound like it, it
unfortunately sounds like you may have a problem bike, and if you get
to compare with another you'll know.

Ruari


--- In W650riders@..., "leeferiksen" <lief_e@...> wrote:

The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below

the

max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch

drags

a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and

lower

lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).

Lief.

The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below the
max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch drags
a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and lower
lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).

Lief.

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No "W" content, no motorcycle content - just an amazting video about an
incredible occupation some of you might enjoy.



Jim Hudson

bl**dy W or like it.

The oil was over filled, as I said before, and today I dropped 600ml
out to get to just below the maximum mark. The syringe method didn't
work as I couldn't the flexible hose past the last gear on the
cluster. However Ruari's idea of putting the bike on the centrestand
and then putting same size bits of wood under the front and rear
wheels worked a treat. I had already checked the rear sprocket and
the chain, which has no tight spot and is perfectly adjusted.The
clutch lever is also by the book as regards free play at the lever
and I took my heated grips off, as they meant I lost half an inch of
travel on the lever. Due to the cr*p weather this was the first
time O had started it since June 1st. I keep her hooked up to
Optimate trickle charger, still took a couple of dabs on the starter
but off she went. I tried to put her in to 1st only to receive a
baulk and a scrunch. However I then figured it might because I am
trying at too high a revs. SO I blipped the throttle a few time and
dobbed the choke in and wey hay into 1st she went. Even so, once
warm she still crunches from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd. The
rest of gears are sweet going up and not to bad coming down the box.

There is a whine once the revs hit 3.5k, regardless of gear, and as
a result I am getting more and more p*ssed off with this damn bike.
Went for 45 minute run through the country lanes, topped off with a
90mph ride back down some dual-carriageway (allegedly officer).Park
her up and then started working on my RZ, go back into the garage to
hear a high pitched, low volume, electrical whine...now I am getting
to the stage where I want to ship this bike out and replace it with
a Honda! The noise has now gone without me finding out exactly what
it was....obvious suspect is the alarm.

I am more worried about the whine at 3.5k and above...anyone else
got this? Could this be result of me turning the bike off when the
revs were up and hearing a terrible clunk, as the pistons stopped
dead, as I previously described...I certain don't remember the whine
before! :>(

On the flip side this bike is so forgiving, it doesn't matter what
revs you go into a corner at, as she will pull out of the bend. It
is nice to bimble along at slow speeds. My route was through some
pretty villages, with thatched cottages and down lovely twisty
roads. And then to hit dual-carriageway and shoot past a Ninja and a
Suzuki GS500 at 85-90mph (allegedly). So atht emoment it is a love-
hate relationship, which, as this was meant to be my reliable, no
tinker, bike is a bit disappointing!

In addition I decided to do a gearbox change on the RZ, removing the
black 3 year old oil and replacing with the Silkolene Light Gear Oil
(as used by many on the forum) to end up with sticker gearchanges
and a buzzing noise (like a nut loose) than I had using the rubbish
that was in there....not a good weekend!

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----- Original Message -----

From: James Franklin

To: W650riders@...

Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [W650riders] Today...

I am never on my W when I come accross another one....besides in the
showroom, I can't remember seeing two of them in one place.

With litterally thousands of bikes in Daytona, I saw only one other W, and
we were going in opposite directions.

James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)

From: Tachokay@cs.com
Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Today...
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:18:50 EDT

Dude! My Dub, of course!

In a message dated 7/7/2007 5:57:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jimw650@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
> For this chance encounter, were you on your W or V-Star?
>
>
>

Rrrose.
@>-->--

__________________________________________________________

Dennis,

The "trick" part of the 270 crank for the XS 650 isn't the crank, its a two piece and can be disassembled and rotated..the pins line up at 270..no 180 though, the trick is the cam chaft that goes with the kit.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: "Dennis J. Guggemos" <djguggms@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: <W650riders@...>
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:11:40 -0700

James
The cancelled New Norton 962(may be off on the cc's) ended up as a 270 crank, they claimed it ran smoother than a 360 crank.

Dennis

I am never on my W when I come accross another one....besides in the showroom, I can't remember seeing two of them in one place.

With litterally thousands of bikes in Daytona, I saw only one other W, and we were going in opposite directions.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: Tachokay@...
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Today...
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:18:50 EDT

Dude! My Dub, of course!

In a message dated 7/7/2007 5:57:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jimw650@... writes:

For this chance encounter, were you on your W or V-Star?

Rrrose.
@>-->--

_________________________________________________________________

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First off to all that replied about the mpg weirdness: no, I'm fat as
ever, still revving it pretty good, and I think I've the only key. But
I bought the bike here in Maryland, so maybe it's just happy to be back.
And to answer you Rose, I'm in southern Calvert and St. Mary's county
area, so way south Maryland.
Thanks for the responses,
fatstring
--- In W650riders@..., Tachokay@... wrote:

But of course! Whereabouts did you move to??

In a message dated 7/7/2007 2:48:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
fatstringme@... writes:

Also I guess I like to be included on any PA/MD/VA rides or get

togethers

if y'all don't mind.
thanks,
fatstring

Rrrose.
@>-->--