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Re: Next trip NWC

Larry Botheras
 

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Well at last the forecast is dry for the next few days…? Have a good one…

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From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of Dick Tym
Sent: 09 July 2007 11:24
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

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We are staying in Bodmin
Dick

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:04 AM

Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

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Dick,

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I hope you’ve had your visa issued!? Whereabouts are you going? Been (like everywhere in the UK) a pretty wet time down there

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Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

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Re: Poor man's auto-luber for the chain ?15.00

Larry Botheras
 

开云体育

I use CASTROL chain wax on our bikes… really good stuff, low fling.

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From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of nic.ashmore
Sent: 09 July 2007 10:27
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Poor man's auto-luber for the chain ?15.00

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--- In W650riders@..., "Dennis J. Guggemos"
wrote:
>
>
quick-
lube_W0QQitemZ300127998145QQihZ020QQcategoryZ9946QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewIt
em
>
Has any one used the dry chain lub's I see advertised, eg Wurth. Are
they any good?
3 months into the 'w' and I am loving it! Keep turning in 75mpg, is
this reasonable? Even been out in the rain twice, it's either that or
stay in at the moment.

Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

Larry Botheras
 

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Nige,

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You really need to get it alongside another w650 to compare like for like.? Right now you are sensitised to the slightest little thing, and the glass is going to be half empty rather than half full.? It doesn’t sound to me that there is anything major wrong with the bike and that some of the issues are just “getting used” issues with any new bike.?

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I don’t know whether you test rode before you bought (other than the bike you bought) but it is possible to “believe” you want a particular bike so much, but when you ride it , you feel let down – mainly by its failure to live up to expectations.? I know when I got the first GTR, I actually wanted a 900 Trophy triple.? I rode the GTR first and was pleasantly surprised… Then I rode the Trophy and thought it was poor…? I was gutted…

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Larry Botheras

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Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

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From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of nige_1959
Sent: 09 July 2007 09:47
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

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Bl**dy typical I spend ages looking for a minter and get one that is
virtually spotless, with a full service history, that has obviously
been well cared for by the owner, not thrashed and it is a
***problem*** bike. I have decided that if I can't get it sorted by
the end of the summer then I am going to get rid of it and look for
something else....I am so p*ssed of right now. The bikes are not going
well, we have just got some work, which means my dream of going to Uni
is over....Arrgghh

--- In W650riders@..., "Ruari McLennan"
wrote:
>
> Also, Nige, I forget what oil weight you are using, if it's 20W-50 go
> to 10W-40. I assume your clutch lever is adjusted OK.
>
> If these suggestions don't work, see if you can get to ride with and
> swap with another W owner. There are more of you closer together
> over there.
>
> Perhaps you have a typical W650, but it doesn't sound like it, it
> unfortunately sounds like you may have a problem bike, and if you get
> to compare with another you'll know.
>
> Ruari
>
>
> --- In W650riders@..., "leeferiksen" wrote:
> >
> > The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
> > much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below
> the
> > max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch
> drags
> > a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and
> lower
> > lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).
> >
> > Lief.
>
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

 

You've got to run at a VERY slow pace to get 89 mpg. I'd be surprised
if that bike has even sniffed 6000 before you got it. I think it
needs some serious thrashing. It's clearly as tight as a duck's arse.

You definitely need to compare it, and get it compared to other W's
because with all due respect, you are sounding increasingly paranoid
about stuff that so far sounds entirely normal.

The gearboxes are NOT butter smooth in these bikes. They are
certainly not as bad as the air-cooled Beemers and 850cc
Guzzis...Those bikes really crunched as you shifted out of first. The
trouble is, your Yams have awesome shifts, I know, I've ridden a few,
but big torquey twins have a fair amount of metal in their gearboxes.

I have to say that the W's gearbox isn't as failsafe as say my
SR500's was and using it clutchless will result in a false neutral or
so, but aybe you are treating it like it has glass cogs or something.

If you can get it down here you can take mnine out and I'll ride
yours. We should be able to allay your fears re reliability at least.
Whether you'll want to keep the bike after that is something only
you'll know!

#Jon


My graunches from cold if the revs are too high, but once on the
move
it is is fine, however once it is warmed up then the gearchange gets
worse.

The whining noise at 3.5k revs seems to coming from the LH side of
the
engine, surely that isn't bevel noise there is it?. My bike is
whisper
quiet at cold, has the 3.5k rev whine (didn't notice when this
started, whether cold or warm) and then once warm sounds like a bag
of
nails from the bevel area.

I accept that it hasn't been run hard very often, as, whilst the
bloke
said he had seen 85 on the clock, he kept a record of mpg, which
showed a low of 67mpg and a high of 89mph, with his average being
about 75mpg...
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

nige_1959
 

My graunches from cold if the revs are too high, but once on the move
it is is fine, however once it is warmed up then the gearchange gets
worse.

The whining noise at 3.5k revs seems to coming from the LH side of the
engine, surely that isn't bevel noise there is it?. My bike is whisper
quiet at cold, has the 3.5k rev whine (didn't notice when this
started, whether cold or warm) and then once warm sounds like a bag of
nails from the bevel area.

I accept that it hasn't been run hard very often, as, whilst the bloke
said he had seen 85 on the clock, he kept a record of mpg, which
showed a low of 67mpg and a high of 89mph, with his average being
about 75mpg...

--- In W650riders@..., "Jon Haddock" <jonhaddock@...> wrote:

They always graunch into first from cold. I just hold the front
brake and
push it through.

The whine is simply the bevel. It's just snug. In the manual there is
a note
about adjustment and it talks about whether it is preferable to have
a whine
when cold or hot. Mine whines cold but rattles a bit when hot. Yours
sounds
lovely and tight. As you use it the whine will diminish. I suspect
it's been
ridden very gently and needs running in.

The 'electrical' whine is common and is actually something else. I
suspect
it is a pressure differential somewhere. If you disconnect the
battery it
carries on!. The W has a fairly clever anti-vapour system in the tank
and I
reckon that has something to do with it.

My car however really does whine when stopped and turned off. . If
you open
a door the active suspension computer wakes up and makes a whine for
30
seconds while it waits for someone to get in so it can adjust the
spring
rates!

Jon


--- In W650riders@..., "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@>
wrote:

bl**dy W or like it.

The oil was over filled, as I said before, and today I dropped
600ml
out to get to just below the maximum mark. The syringe method
didn't
work as I couldn't the flexible hose past the last gear on the
cluster. However Ruari's idea of putting the bike on the
centrestand
and then putting same size bits of wood under the front and rear
wheels worked a treat. I had already checked the rear sprocket and
the chain, which has no tight spot and is perfectly adjusted.The
clutch lever is also by the book as regards free play at the lever
and I took my heated grips off, as they meant I lost half an inch
of
travel on the lever. Due to the cr*p weather this was the first
time O had started it since June 1st. I keep her hooked up to
Optimate trickle charger, still took a couple of dabs on the
starter
but off she went. I tried to put her in to 1st only to receive a
baulk and a scrunch. However I then figured it might because I am
trying at too high a revs. SO I blipped the throttle a few time and
dobbed the choke in and wey hay into 1st she went. Even so, once
warm she still crunches from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd. The
rest of gears are sweet going up and not to bad coming down the
box.

There is a whine once the revs hit 3.5k, regardless of gear, and as
a result I am getting more and more p*ssed off with this damn bike.
Went for 45 minute run through the country lanes, topped off with a
90mph ride back down some dual-carriageway (allegedly officer).Park
her up and then started working on my RZ, go back into the garage
to
hear a high pitched, low volume, electrical whine...now I am
getting
to the stage where I want to ship this bike out and replace it with
a Honda! The noise has now gone without me finding out exactly what
it was....obvious suspect is the alarm.

I am more worried about the whine at 3.5k and above...anyone else
got this? Could this be result of me turning the bike off when the
revs were up and hearing a terrible clunk, as the pistons stopped
dead, as I previously described...I certain don't remember the
whine
before! :>(

On the flip side this bike is so forgiving, it doesn't matter what
revs you go into a corner at, as she will pull out of the bend. It
is nice to bimble along at slow speeds. My route was through some
pretty villages, with thatched cottages and down lovely twisty
roads. And then to hit dual-carriageway and shoot past a Ninja and
a
Suzuki GS500 at 85-90mph (allegedly). So atht emoment it is a love-
hate relationship, which, as this was meant to be my reliable, no
tinker, bike is a bit disappointing!

In addition I decided to do a gearbox change on the RZ, removing
the
black 3 year old oil and replacing with the Silkolene Light Gear
Oil
(as used by many on the forum) to end up with sticker gearchanges
and a buzzing noise (like a nut loose) than I had using the rubbish
that was in there....not a good weekend!
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

 

They always graunch into first from cold. I just hold the front
brake and
push it through.

The whine is simply the bevel. It's just snug. In the manual there is
a note
about adjustment and it talks about whether it is preferable to have
a whine
when cold or hot. Mine whines cold but rattles a bit when hot. Yours
sounds
lovely and tight. As you use it the whine will diminish. I suspect
it's been
ridden very gently and needs running in.

The 'electrical' whine is common and is actually something else. I
suspect
it is a pressure differential somewhere. If you disconnect the
battery it
carries on!. The W has a fairly clever anti-vapour system in the tank
and I
reckon that has something to do with it.

My car however really does whine when stopped and turned off. . If
you open
a door the active suspension computer wakes up and makes a whine for
30
seconds while it waits for someone to get in so it can adjust the
spring
rates!

Jon


--- In W650riders@..., "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...>
wrote:

bl**dy W or like it.

The oil was over filled, as I said before, and today I dropped
600ml
out to get to just below the maximum mark. The syringe method
didn't
work as I couldn't the flexible hose past the last gear on the
cluster. However Ruari's idea of putting the bike on the
centrestand
and then putting same size bits of wood under the front and rear
wheels worked a treat. I had already checked the rear sprocket and
the chain, which has no tight spot and is perfectly adjusted.The
clutch lever is also by the book as regards free play at the lever
and I took my heated grips off, as they meant I lost half an inch
of
travel on the lever. Due to the cr*p weather this was the first
time O had started it since June 1st. I keep her hooked up to
Optimate trickle charger, still took a couple of dabs on the
starter
but off she went. I tried to put her in to 1st only to receive a
baulk and a scrunch. However I then figured it might because I am
trying at too high a revs. SO I blipped the throttle a few time and
dobbed the choke in and wey hay into 1st she went. Even so, once
warm she still crunches from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd. The
rest of gears are sweet going up and not to bad coming down the
box.

There is a whine once the revs hit 3.5k, regardless of gear, and as
a result I am getting more and more p*ssed off with this damn bike.
Went for 45 minute run through the country lanes, topped off with a
90mph ride back down some dual-carriageway (allegedly officer).Park
her up and then started working on my RZ, go back into the garage
to
hear a high pitched, low volume, electrical whine...now I am
getting
to the stage where I want to ship this bike out and replace it with
a Honda! The noise has now gone without me finding out exactly what
it was....obvious suspect is the alarm.

I am more worried about the whine at 3.5k and above...anyone else
got this? Could this be result of me turning the bike off when the
revs were up and hearing a terrible clunk, as the pistons stopped
dead, as I previously described...I certain don't remember the
whine
before! :>(

On the flip side this bike is so forgiving, it doesn't matter what
revs you go into a corner at, as she will pull out of the bend. It
is nice to bimble along at slow speeds. My route was through some
pretty villages, with thatched cottages and down lovely twisty
roads. And then to hit dual-carriageway and shoot past a Ninja and
a
Suzuki GS500 at 85-90mph (allegedly). So atht emoment it is a love-
hate relationship, which, as this was meant to be my reliable, no
tinker, bike is a bit disappointing!

In addition I decided to do a gearbox change on the RZ, removing
the
black 3 year old oil and replacing with the Silkolene Light Gear
Oil
(as used by many on the forum) to end up with sticker gearchanges
and a buzzing noise (like a nut loose) than I had using the rubbish
that was in there....not a good weekend!
Re: Next trip NWC

Dick Tym
 

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We are staying in Bodmin
Dick

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

Dick,

?

I hope you’ve had your visa issued!? Whereabouts are you going? Been (like everywhere in the UK) a pretty wet time down there

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?
Re: Poor man's auto-luber for the chain ?15.00

nic.ashmore
 

--- In W650riders@..., "Dennis J. Guggemos" <djguggms@...>
wrote:

quick-
lube_W0QQitemZ300127998145QQihZ020QQcategoryZ9946QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewIt
em
Has any one used the dry chain lub's I see advertised, eg Wurth. Are
they any good?
3 months into the 'w' and I am loving it! Keep turning in 75mpg, is
this reasonable? Even been out in the rain twice, it's either that or
stay in at the moment.
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

nige_1959
 

Bl**dy typical I spend ages looking for a minter and get one that is
virtually spotless, with a full service history, that has obviously
been well cared for by the owner, not thrashed and it is a
***problem*** bike. I have decided that if I can't get it sorted by
the end of the summer then I am going to get rid of it and look for
something else....I am so p*ssed of right now. The bikes are not going
well, we have just got some work, which means my dream of going to Uni
is over....Arrgghh



--- In W650riders@..., "Ruari McLennan" <r.mclennan@...>
wrote:

Also, Nige, I forget what oil weight you are using, if it's 20W-50 go
to 10W-40. I assume your clutch lever is adjusted OK.

If these suggestions don't work, see if you can get to ride with and
swap with another W owner. There are more of you closer together
over there.

Perhaps you have a typical W650, but it doesn't sound like it, it
unfortunately sounds like you may have a problem bike, and if you get
to compare with another you'll know.

Ruari


--- In W650riders@..., "leeferiksen" <lief_e@> wrote:

The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below
the
max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch
drags
a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and
lower
lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).

Lief.
Re: Next trip NWC

Larry Botheras
 

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Dick,

?

I hope you’ve had your visa issued!? Whereabouts are you going? Been (like everywhere in the UK) a pretty wet time down there

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

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At the moment I'm watching the Tour De France much of which is on the roads I ride on my commute to work

I'm off on the CB to Cornwall on Tuesday to look at the rain down there. :)

Dick
Re: Today...

[email protected]
 

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From: Tachokay@...
Date: 2007/07/07 Sat PM 04:49:28 CDT
To: tjhalstead@..., W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Today...

Very Cool Rose....it's time for a ride with Harwood? Lets' do a ride this Saturday if it's rain free.
Matty




So I was riding on MacArthur Blvd this afternoon, and some dude wanted to turn left onto a street I was going to turn right into.?? I kinda did a double take at the front of his bike, it looked so familiar... He turned onto the street right behind me and followed me for several miles.?? I kept looking in my rear-view... Dang, that bike profile looked familiar! We finally pulled up at a light, and I looked over at his bike -- Nice Bike, I said. Likewise, he said!

His name is TJ, he lives in DC, he bought his 2000 Dub last year from someone in Frederick, and he didn't know about this group -- so I told him.?? I sure hope I wrote down his e-mail addy correctly!

That was so cool!?? There's no mods on his bike that I noticed, either, and it's pristine.?? Not like my poor SAKI who's feeling her 50K miles!?? :)

So that's my excitement for today.

Rrrose.
@>-->--
Re: Today...

[email protected]
 

Ooops, should have replied to all so TJ gets it too...

Sorry, will be in Tampa this weekend. The 21st looks okay, but I'm riding to Harrisburg on the 28th.? Sometime in August?

In a message dated 7/8/2007 8:41:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, musicmatty@... writes:
Very Cool Rose....it's time for a ride with Harwood?? Lets' do a ride this Saturday if it's rain free.
Matty



Rrrose.
@>-->--

Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

Ruari McLennan
 

Also, Nige, I forget what oil weight you are using, if it's 20W-50 go
to 10W-40. I assume your clutch lever is adjusted OK.

If these suggestions don't work, see if you can get to ride with and
swap with another W owner. There are more of you closer together
over there.

Perhaps you have a typical W650, but it doesn't sound like it, it
unfortunately sounds like you may have a problem bike, and if you get
to compare with another you'll know.

Ruari


--- In W650riders@..., "leeferiksen" <lief_e@...> wrote:

The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below
the
max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch
drags
a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and
lower
lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).

Lief.
devon - NWC

Laura
 

Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

leeferiksen
 

The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below the
max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch drags
a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and lower
lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).

Lief.

--- In W650riders@..., "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...> wrote:

bl**dy W or like it.

The oil was over filled, as I said before, and today I dropped 600ml
out to get to just below the maximum mark. The syringe method didn't
work as I couldn't the flexible hose past the last gear on the
cluster. However Ruari's idea of putting the bike on the centrestand
and then putting same size bits of wood under the front and rear
wheels worked a treat. I had already checked the rear sprocket and
the chain, which has no tight spot and is perfectly adjusted.The
clutch lever is also by the book as regards free play at the lever
and I took my heated grips off, as they meant I lost half an inch of
travel on the lever. Due to the cr*p weather this was the first
time O had started it since June 1st. I keep her hooked up to
Optimate trickle charger, still took a couple of dabs on the starter
but off she went. I tried to put her in to 1st only to receive a
baulk and a scrunch. However I then figured it might because I am
trying at too high a revs. SO I blipped the throttle a few time and
dobbed the choke in and wey hay into 1st she went. Even so, once
warm she still crunches from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd. The
rest of gears are sweet going up and not to bad coming down the box.

There is a whine once the revs hit 3.5k, regardless of gear, and as
a result I am getting more and more p*ssed off with this damn bike.
Went for 45 minute run through the country lanes, topped off with a
90mph ride back down some dual-carriageway (allegedly officer).Park
her up and then started working on my RZ, go back into the garage to
hear a high pitched, low volume, electrical whine...now I am getting
to the stage where I want to ship this bike out and replace it with
a Honda! The noise has now gone without me finding out exactly what
it was....obvious suspect is the alarm.

I am more worried about the whine at 3.5k and above...anyone else
got this? Could this be result of me turning the bike off when the
revs were up and hearing a terrible clunk, as the pistons stopped
dead, as I previously described...I certain don't remember the whine
before! :>(

On the flip side this bike is so forgiving, it doesn't matter what
revs you go into a corner at, as she will pull out of the bend. It
is nice to bimble along at slow speeds. My route was through some
pretty villages, with thatched cottages and down lovely twisty
roads. And then to hit dual-carriageway and shoot past a Ninja and a
Suzuki GS500 at 85-90mph (allegedly). So atht emoment it is a love-
hate relationship, which, as this was meant to be my reliable, no
tinker, bike is a bit disappointing!

In addition I decided to do a gearbox change on the RZ, removing the
black 3 year old oil and replacing with the Silkolene Light Gear Oil
(as used by many on the forum) to end up with sticker gearchanges
and a buzzing noise (like a nut loose) than I had using the rubbish
that was in there....not a good weekend!
Poor man's auto-luber for the chain ?15.00

 

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NWC - Like a Bird on a Wire

Jim Hudson
 

No "W" content, no motorcycle content - just an amazting video about an
incredible occupation some of you might enjoy.



Jim Hudson
Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

nige_1959
 

bl**dy W or like it.

The oil was over filled, as I said before, and today I dropped 600ml
out to get to just below the maximum mark. The syringe method didn't
work as I couldn't the flexible hose past the last gear on the
cluster. However Ruari's idea of putting the bike on the centrestand
and then putting same size bits of wood under the front and rear
wheels worked a treat. I had already checked the rear sprocket and
the chain, which has no tight spot and is perfectly adjusted.The
clutch lever is also by the book as regards free play at the lever
and I took my heated grips off, as they meant I lost half an inch of
travel on the lever. Due to the cr*p weather this was the first
time O had started it since June 1st. I keep her hooked up to
Optimate trickle charger, still took a couple of dabs on the starter
but off she went. I tried to put her in to 1st only to receive a
baulk and a scrunch. However I then figured it might because I am
trying at too high a revs. SO I blipped the throttle a few time and
dobbed the choke in and wey hay into 1st she went. Even so, once
warm she still crunches from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd. The
rest of gears are sweet going up and not to bad coming down the box.

There is a whine once the revs hit 3.5k, regardless of gear, and as
a result I am getting more and more p*ssed off with this damn bike.
Went for 45 minute run through the country lanes, topped off with a
90mph ride back down some dual-carriageway (allegedly officer).Park
her up and then started working on my RZ, go back into the garage to
hear a high pitched, low volume, electrical whine...now I am getting
to the stage where I want to ship this bike out and replace it with
a Honda! The noise has now gone without me finding out exactly what
it was....obvious suspect is the alarm.

I am more worried about the whine at 3.5k and above...anyone else
got this? Could this be result of me turning the bike off when the
revs were up and hearing a terrible clunk, as the pistons stopped
dead, as I previously described...I certain don't remember the whine
before! :>(

On the flip side this bike is so forgiving, it doesn't matter what
revs you go into a corner at, as she will pull out of the bend. It
is nice to bimble along at slow speeds. My route was through some
pretty villages, with thatched cottages and down lovely twisty
roads. And then to hit dual-carriageway and shoot past a Ninja and a
Suzuki GS500 at 85-90mph (allegedly). So atht emoment it is a love-
hate relationship, which, as this was meant to be my reliable, no
tinker, bike is a bit disappointing!

In addition I decided to do a gearbox change on the RZ, removing the
black 3 year old oil and replacing with the Silkolene Light Gear Oil
(as used by many on the forum) to end up with sticker gearchanges
and a buzzing noise (like a nut loose) than I had using the rubbish
that was in there....not a good weekend!
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My dad and co-workers did this stunt during WWII (the Big One) at Mare Island, SF bay. Drove the driver nuts.
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Dennis
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From: G.L. Kobe
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: mpg jump

??? Does anyone have access to your key ??
This reminds me of the father of a friend of mine. Back in the 60's he got rid of a big car with a V8 and bought a VW Beetle. He was being "ribbed" at work about his little car and would?justify himself by bragging about his great fuel mileage.
?Several of his co workers got together and started bringing pint bottles of gasoline to work and pouring it into his tank. He was soon bragging about getting 80-90MPG out of this amazing little car !
? After a couple of weeks they reversed the joke and started siphoning a gallon a day out of his tank.
? They toataly blew his mind and when the "smoke cleared" they all had a good laugh about a fairly harmless joke.?? Thanks for the memories !
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Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Today...

James: These 2 are together all the time. My 2000 and 2002. Daniel
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Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Today...

I am never on my W when I come accross another one....besides in the
showroom, I can't remember seeing two of them in one place.

With litterally thousands of bikes in Daytona, I saw only one other W, and
we were going in opposite directions.

James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)

From: Tachokay@cs.com
Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Today...
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:18:50 EDT

Dude! My Dub, of course!

In a message dated 7/7/2007 5:57:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jimw650@hotmail.com writes:
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> For this chance encounter, were you on your W or V-Star?
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Rrrose.
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