Hello everyone,
It has been less than 24 hrs since i started the petition and I did
not set a priority on who to notify 1st of it. It was my goal to hit
up the forums tonight which is what im doing.
Please sign the petition at
Thanks
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--- In W650riders@..., Kirk Johnson <johnsonkirk@...> wrote:
I was on Craigslist today and searched, what else,
W650.
An add appeared with a link for a petition to import
the new Ws to the US.
It seems curious that this bloke hasn't posted to any
W650 groups that I'm aware of.
Does anyone know something about it.
Kirk
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bring back the w650 to the us - Petition
Hello all,
Ive started a petition to bring back the w650 - please sign it here:
Here's one of the posting i've put on craigslist about this
Please tell all your friends and family about this
Thanks
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I'm waiting for the W750 petition.
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Dennis
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Subject: [W650riders] W650 Petition
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I was on Craigslist today and searched, what else,
W650.
An add
appeared with a link for a petition to import
the new Ws to the US.
It
seems curious that this bloke hasn't posted to any
W650 groups that I'm
aware of.
Does
anyone know something about it.
Kirk
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Yeah, but it fits you better!
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Thank the gods! That pointy hat was getting
heavy.
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Gene, outta the
corner, Dennis needs in.
Jake
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----- Original Message -----
I had a terrible day!!!
I rear ended someone today. If that's
not bad enough,
the guy I hit is a DWARF!! When he got out of his car
he
looked up at me and said, "I am NOT happy!"
So I made the
mistake of asking "Well, which one are you then?"
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Gene, outta the corner,
Dennis needs in.
Jake
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----- Original Message -----
I had a terrible day!!!
I rear ended someone today. If that's
not bad enough,
the guy I hit is a DWARF!! When he got out of his car he
looked up at me and said, "I am NOT happy!"
So I made the
mistake of asking "Well, which one are you then?"
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I was on Craigslist today and searched, what else,
W650.
An add appeared with a link for a petition to import
the new Ws to the US.
It seems curious that this bloke hasn't posted to any
W650 groups that I'm aware of.
Does anyone know something about it.
Kirk
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Gene, outta the corner, Dennis needs
in.
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Jake
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I had a terrible day!!!
I rear ended someone today. If that's not
bad enough,
the guy I hit is a DWARF!! When he got out of his car he
looked up at me and said, "I am NOT happy!"
So I made the mistake
of asking "Well, which one are you then?"
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Try this one then Dennis.
Dick
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I had a terrible day!!!
I rear ended someone today. If that's not
bad enough,
the guy I hit is a DWARF!! When he got out of his car he
looked up at me and said, "I am NOT happy!"
So I made the mistake of
asking "Well, which one are you then?"
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Try this one then Dennis.
Dick
Subject: Oh
yes.....never a truer word!!
A man in a hot air
balloon realised he was lost. He reduced? altitude
and? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
spotted a woman below. He descended a bit more and shouted,? ?
? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ??
"Excuse me, can you
help me? I promised a friend I would meet him? an
hour ago but I
don't know where I am."? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
??
The woman below replied, "You're in a hot air balloon
hovering? ? ? ?
approximately 30 feet above the
ground. You're between 40 and? 41? ??
degrees?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
north
latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude."? ? ?
??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ??
"You must be in Information
Technology," said the balloonist.? ? ? ??
?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
??
"I am," replied the woman, "how did you know?"? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ??
"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything
you told me is? probably
technically correct, but I've no idea what
to make of your? information
and the fact is, I'm still lost. Frankly,
you've not been much help? at
all. If anything, you've delayed my
trip."? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ??
The woman below
responded, "You must be in Management."? ? ? ? ?
? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ??
"I am," replied the
balloonist, "but how did you know?"? ? ? ? ? ?
??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ??
"Well," said the woman, "you
don't know where you are or where? you're
going. You have risen to
where you are, due to a large quantity of? hot
air. You made a
promise, which you've no idea how to keep, and? you??
expect people beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you?
are
in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now,?
somehow,
it's my f**king
fault."???????????????????????????????????????
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 11:42
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Dick
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Looks like a Postscript file, can't deal with
it.
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Dennis
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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:29
PM
Subject: [W650riders] Fw:
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Try this attatchment for a
laugh
Dick
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Wow, I ran across that one just yesterday, with Republicans
and Democrats instead.
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Dennis
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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Fw:
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Try this one then Dennis.
Dick
Subject: Oh
yes.....never a truer word!!
A man in a hot air
balloon realised he was lost. He reduced? altitude
and? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
spotted a woman below. He descended a bit more and
shouted,???...
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Try this one then Dennis.
Dick
Subject: Oh
yes.....never a truer word!!
A man in a hot air
balloon realised he was lost. He reduced? altitude
and? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
spotted
a woman below. He descended a bit more and shouted,? ? ? ?
??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ??
"Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a
friend I would meet him? an
hour ago but I don't know where I
am."? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ??
The woman below
replied, "You're in a hot air balloon hovering? ? ? ?
approximately 30 feet above the ground. You're between 40 and? 41?
??
degrees? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
??
north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west
longitude."? ? ? ??
? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
"You
must be in Information Technology," said the balloonist.? ? ?
??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ??
"I am," replied the woman, "how did you
know?"? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ??
"Well," answered the balloonist,
"everything you told me is? probably
technically correct, but I've no
idea what to make of your? information
and the fact is, I'm still lost.
Frankly, you've not been much help? at
all. If anything, you've delayed
my trip."? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ??
The woman below responded,
"You must be in Management."? ? ? ? ? ?
??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ??
"I am," replied the balloonist, "but how
did you know?"? ? ? ? ? ? ??
?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
??
"Well," said the woman, "you don't know where you are or
where? you're
going. You have risen to where you are, due to a large
quantity of? hot
air. You made a promise, which you've no idea how to
keep, and? you??
expect people beneath you to solve your
problems. The fact is you? are
in exactly the same position you were in
before we met, but now,? somehow,
it's my f**king
fault."???????????????????????????????????????
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Dick
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Looks like a Postscript file, can't deal with
it.
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:29
PM
Subject: [W650riders] Fw:
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Try this attatchment for a
laugh
Dick
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Re: Exhausts & retro noise
Which could also lower the resale value of the
bike. Not just because it has a funky, non-reversable tone, but because if I
looked in the exhausts and saw that they had been modified with a hammer, I'd
pass on the bike. 'cause I'm doubting the fella measured the airflow before,
then after, and jetted accordingly. Now if you had a spare pair of stock
mufflers...
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Jake
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AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Exhausts
& retro noise
Ruari
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I have read here that this method produces sound that some
have liked, and some regretted, hard to say what your results may be. It's a
one way trip.
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Dennis
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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:23
AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Exhausts
& retro noise
An old Triumph expert suggested that I should just sharpen a piece of
narrow
rebar, and hammer it through the stock exhaust/baffles bit by bit
until the
sound deepened. Anyone tried this? My Canadian exhaust is one
of those
from which the stock baffles cannot be removed (as per the
California
exhaust diagram in Files). The baffles start well inside the
exhaust.
Ruari
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It's a PowerPoint file. I believe Microsoft offers
a free viewer.
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Jake
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Dick
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Looks like a Postscript file, can't deal with
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Dennis
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laugh
Dick
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Re: Exhausts & retro noise
--- In W650riders@..., Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> wrote:
An old Triumph expert suggested that I should just sharpen a piece
of narrow rebar, and hammer it through the stock exhaust/baffles bit by bit until the sound deepened. Anyone tried this? My Canadian exhaust is one of those from which the stock baffles cannot be removed (as per the California
exhaust diagram in Files). The baffles start well inside the exhaust.
Ruari
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Campbell" <scrubby64@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Exhausts & retro noise
Mmm, sounds like a lot of work, I take it you have looked at the W650.de shop?
Mark,
----- Original Message -----
From: "ksufanatic342" <ksufanatic@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:23 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Exhausts & retro noise
I got a reply from MikesXS. They said the originals were very loud,
essential straight throughs. So they had a chamber created inside the
muffler to redirect the air and quiet them. SOOOO looks like, unless
that chamber can be removed, these are not going to be the sound you
are looking for.
I was looking at my stock exahaust and was curious. Could a
welder cut the cross over off. Weld plates inplace of the crossover holes, and
then remove some of the baffeling from the stock?
I know it would be a lot of effort. I will find out in the next few
days if it can be done and how much. (IE have a friend who does
this.)
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@" <jonhaddock@>
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Hi Ruari, I saw you posting about the posh exhaust system, from the
info I have found on Japanese web sites the posh comes as an entire system with a new single wall header pipe which will blue, the cost is about 106,000 yen last I saw. If you want anything from Japan talk to the people at Windbell motorcycles in North Van. Their # is 604-990-9876 e-mail is www.jpgreybike.com. I got my tt100's there and they said they could import most parts from Japan. I live in surrey if you are comming over give me a call at 604-501-1448. By the way my name is Grant, good luck.
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Dennis
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Dick
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There is a B40 BSA on ebay not far from me, I ahven't seen
it, and in truth probably won't be able to as I?have left it too late
methinks, as I dismissed it as I want to be able to ride it on the road and this
looks as if it have never been registered.
?
There is also a Morini, same as yours, but it has a single
2-1 zorst, again going not far from me. He hasn't put how mnay miles down on the
description but he has a picture, which shows it as having done 35k...its up for
500 quid.
Depends on what information you have about it. This is roughly the
procedure, taken from the VMCC handbook who assist members in
registering old machines:
If you do not have the original reg number
you can apply for an age
related number. You would need to fill in an
application form for a
Statement of Search, which you send to the VMCC with
?6 if you are a
member or ?14 if a non-member. When the VMCC return the
Statement of
Search, you take it to the local VLO together with a current
MOT,
evidence of identity & your certificate of insurance. They will
probably then arrange an inspection of the machine.
If you are trying
to retain the original registration the procedure is
slightly different
& involves having the VMCC inspect the machine
rather than the VLO. I'm
not sure how necessary the inspection is
since I am sure that the NACC offer
a similar service but rely on
documents and photos sent to them, with a
rubbing of the frame/engine
number. I think the BSAOC offer a similar
service.
I'm not sure what difference there is if the trials bike has
built
from bits of various bikes (which is what I am hoping to do). You can
get day-time MOTs. If it is pre-74, you can have a bulb-horn and no
lights so you don't need to worry about adding lights etc if it hasn't
already got them.
Have you found one you're wanting to
buy?
Haze
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HAze > > > Not sure you would know but how easy is it to
register an old BSA > trial bike, that up to now as been used only
off-road? >
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I am just west of Hartford, CT and ride a bit in the hills of Litchfield County. I have a stock everything 2000 W650. The next?2-3 weeks?will be tough for me time wise but after that I would be happy to have you take a look. ? Greg
Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
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Adios, Donovan. I think I saw your bike on biketrader.ca
Cheers,
Ray F.
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Ruari
----- Original Message -----
From: Donovan Wilson
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:21 AM
Subject: [W650riders] Vulcan 900
?The w is gone . We shared 58,000 kms . Most were 2 up . I am really
gonna miss that bike .
?I wasn,t a big contributer to the list but I did read most of the
posts and learned a lot. I wish to thank all the posters and
moderators for there efforts .
? PS I promise not to ask any W650 rider the question . What year is
your Triumph ? ?
? I also ask John not to dis the Vulcan or Mr.Spock.
?Thx Donovan Wilson
?????? Brantford? Canada
??????
?????? Happy Canada Day
Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket:
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Depends on what information you have about it. This is roughly the procedure, taken from the VMCC handbook who assist members in registering old machines: If you do not have the original reg number you can apply for an age related number. You would need to fill in an application form for a Statement of Search, which you send to the VMCC with ?6 if you are a member or ?14 if a non-member. When the VMCC return the Statement of Search, you take it to the local VLO together with a current MOT, evidence of identity & your certificate of insurance. They will probably then arrange an inspection of the machine. If you are trying to retain the original registration the procedure is slightly different & involves having the VMCC inspect the machine rather than the VLO. I'm not sure how necessary the inspection is since I am sure that the NACC offer a similar service but rely on documents and photos sent to them, with a rubbing of the frame/engine number. I think the BSAOC offer a similar service. I'm not sure what difference there is if the trials bike has built from bits of various bikes (which is what I am hoping to do). You can get day-time MOTs. If it is pre-74, you can have a bulb-horn and no lights so you don't need to worry about adding lights etc if it hasn't already got them. Have you found one you're wanting to buy? Haze --- In W650riders@..., "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...> wrote:
HAze
Not sure you would know but how easy is it to register an old BSA
trial bike, that up to now as been used only off-road?
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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Some Serrows are dual start (electric and kickstart). Perhaps we all ought to get together and do a trails day in Wales - they have accomodation so could travel there the day before or something. I won't be able to manage for a while as my Morini has set back the finances for a while, especially as I have two holidays to fund! --- In W650riders@..., "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...> wrote:
I have fancied going greenlaning for ages. I even got as far as
talking to the TRF at the BMF this year, but that is as far as it
has got.
However the two piece of advice that they gave that stuck in my
mind was a) don't buy a cheap bike like a Bashan or another of these
Chinese imports, as they don't last as well as Jap, KTm's etc and b) get a bike, unless it is an old 2 stroke, with electric start (the
Serrow has one), as the last thing you want to be doing when are
totally nackered, in a muddy puddle up to your knees, is trying to
kick over a hot 4 stroke single.
--- In W650riders@..., Laura <laurauk.rider@> wrote:
Well you got me looking at an xt225 now, there's a yamaha dealer
in the town
i work see if they got one so I can sit on one! Have always fancied greenlaning and a bike that's twice as light as my sportster, he
he that's
going to be fun err different.
Laura
On 01/07/07, Larry Botheras <larry.botheras@> wrote:
I think it's now illegal for any bike over either 50 or 125cc
to be two
stroke??? Two stroke outboards are illegal... except for
commercial use.
Go figure.
Larry Botheras
Essex UK
W650 Wrench
2007 Moto Guzzi Norge
1977 KH400
1978 CD175
1994 Ural Solo
-----Original Message-----
From: W650riders@...
[mailto:W650riders@...] On
Behalf Of James Franklin
Sent: 01 July 2007 16:34
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW
MBS STRIKES
AGAIN
Laura, Honda CRs are two strokes and they are high
performance racable..the
XRs and the XLs are 4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225 (Serrow), and the
Kawasaki Sherpa
250
are all electric start 4 strokes with seat heights at 30
inches or less
unladen.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Laura <laurauk.rider@>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW
MBS STRIKES
AGAIN
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59 +0100
OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite like the
idea. Are they
cheap could I have them as second bike?
KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had to
have his food
reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at 70 (we think).
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@ <jonhaddock@> wrote:
Yes, they ARE high, some higher than others, but the
Honda XR 250's
are
OK. I find I can manage those well with my 27" inside
leg, but I can't
ride
the KTM's for instance.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@>
*To:* W650riders@...
*Sent:* Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club
NOW MBS STRIKES
AGAIN
I've sort of been interested in them as they look comfy
(riding position),
well the ones I saw but don't know what they were. But
they are mostly
high
aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really
helpful.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@ <jonhaddock@
<jonhaddock@...+>> wrote:
That is modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc
two stroke singles,
tuned for instant wheelies with loads of bottom end
grunt. They are
very
low
geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted
black area approximately
where the seat would have been.
Other off-road sports are:
Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and like
trials, have no
lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle
really well but
are
stupidly tall to give them masses of suspension
travel...expect seat
heights
in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically
Motocross bikes
with
road front wheels on.
Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to motocross
but are more
softly
tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and
have lighting
sets.
These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make
literally stunning
commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try
very hard indeed
to
find a better bike than a late model Honda XR250 for
general urban
duties.
They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under half your
Harley...and
30
bhp
in a bike that light makes for serious performance. My
old Yamaha
465
with
42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up
to 60 mph.
A lot
of
Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes
are Roads...i.e.
'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not
tarmac. In other
words,
forgotten about or not used. Because they were roads,
bikes still
had
to
be
fully road legal and obey national speed limits. They
are often just
muddy
tracks across moors and rivers and to be honest, full-
on Enduro bikes
are
not designed for such tricky and challenging narrow
paths....But
being
macho
men we used 'em anyway!
Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less robust.
They have less
suspension travel, less power and are often more
civilised. You used to
find
some in every makers range but today in the UK, only
grey imports
are
found.
They were popular amongst older trail riders ( the ones
who knew
what
they
were doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the
Kawasaki Sherpa and
so
on, but older bikes like the XT250 were very good and
frankly, the
XR250
Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
All off-road bikes are brilliant fun, combining punchy
motors with
incredibly light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes
have to
have
superb
handling stability because they are built to win races
on bumpy rough
ground
and as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a
motocross or enduro
bike
with road oriented tyres on usually blows 'proper' road
bikes into
the
weeds.
They are incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and
amazingly good
suspension make for a real armchair riding position.
Very high credibility too......
Jon
From: Laura
Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea
of riding
in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked
riding on the grass at the rally next weekend. Laura, here's some trials riding:
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