NWC: The Rifleman comic book
Remember "The Rifleman" tv show? I didn't know they did a
comic book version.
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I wonder what they're trying to say here with this cover
shot?
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Dennis
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Re: Hooters Bike Show Today /Rockville Maryland
Robocop!
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt S." <musicmatty@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:12 PM Subject: [W650riders] Hooters Bike Show Today /Rockville Maryland Yes the bike show is today and of course it's free and lots of Girls
Girls Girls
Music Matty
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No, twas not me, Harwood. I've been off most of the week but haven't got more than a few miles from the house. Pete C --- In W650riders@..., Flyvw64@... wrote:
I was traveling north on I-77 on Friday near the North
Carolina/Virginia border. Spotted a guy on what looked similar to a Kawasaki ZRX1200, looked like one. Just before it started raining, was that you Pete?
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Re: Couple of newbie questions.
You have to pick your speeds...I usually end up sitting on a glove, trying to sort out some issue with a flapping strap or whatever, and watching the bars like a hawk as I wait for the shimmy to start!
My front Avon solved the problem initially but it came back eventually. It's just a thing they do...like the old Commando's used to....
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Jon, that sounds exactly like my shimmy. It is only noticeable when
you take your hands off the bars and goes away when you put them back
on. If however you continue with the 'no hands' style of riding, it
gets a lot worse. I've just had an avon roadrider put on the back
wheel and have now arranged for the matching front to be fitted next,
so we'll see how we get on with 2 new tyres. I know there is usually
no need to ride no hands, but there are times when you have to use
just one and I would like to have the confidence that the bike won't
throw a wobbly.
Thanks,
Pete
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...>
wrote:
The shimmy is common to many bikes and is cured by a small amount
of
friction. The best place to find it is in the front tyre contact patch...The
stock front wears badly and the contact patch almost shrinks to nothing. A
decent single compound ( i.e. not a stock Accolade) tyre transforms the bike
and pretty much sorts the shimmy. I used an Avon Venom .
You should only notice the shimmy if you take your hands off and just a
light touch restores equilibrium.
If it still persists enough to annoy, buy a steering damper...That shimmy is
what they are built for!
Jon
Hello everyone, just got my W650 a few weeks ago and a couple of issues
have arisen. probably been dealt with before but who knows.
Handlebar Shake: when throttling back from 50+ or so mph, the
handlebars give a wobble/shake at between 45-50mph, ok if you've
got
both hand on the handlebars, but if for some reason you don't,
there is
a noticeable shimmy until the speed drops to 40-45mph. Thought it
mught
have been down to a worn (very) rear tyre, but a new one has made
no
difference.
Momentary cough: sometimes, the engine gives a 'cough'. It alwaqys
recovers instantly and then won't happen again for the rest of
the ride.
Any suggestions for these issues, or are they all like it?
Thanks
Pete
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Re: NWC: Satellite Internet Access Question
Yeah, now to find a strapping young man to dig the
ditch...
?
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Internet Access Question
I think the cable option is definitely the best
route....There are a lot of extra clever features as well, like movies on
demand and so on...
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Jon
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Re: NWC: Satellite Internet Access Question
I think the cable option is definitely the best
route....There are a lot of extra clever features as well, like movies on demand
and so on...
?
Jon
?
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] NWC: Satellite
Internet Access Question
Unless I do a package deal with phone/tv/net cable access
prices about the same as sat access these days, only difference being $300
start up for the sat, $200 for cable. Although likely I can find (or wait) for
a better start up deal with cable.
?
With the radio upload link they have these days, upload
speeds are around 128.
?
Meanwhile, I have done some research, and Hughesnet, the
biggest sat biz, is like dealing with your worst nightmare cable company. The
other sat option is BlueSky, I can't find out much about them, but they offer
a slower service around 500kbps for a little less money. Now I'm reconsidering
digging that 90ft trench out to the utility pole and doing cable, a whopping
4mbps for the same money.
?
Dennis
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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:47
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] NWC:
Satellite Internet Access Question
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Before the local telephone exchange went
digital we couldn't get DSL and I looked briefly at satellite but it was
touted as a business solution only as it was so expensive.
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There's one other slight
problemmette.....You only get fast downloads ... unless your receiver
dish is actually a transmitter as well, so you need to keep your phone
line .....
Too far out to get DSL. I could get cable, but that
would involve digging a 90 foot trench down to the pole on the road, can't
go overhead wires, all utilities are buried here. Also cable would cost as
much per month. I have satellite tv and love it.
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Dennis
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Re: NWC: Satellite Internet Access Question
Unless I do a package deal with phone/tv/net cable access
prices about the same as sat access these days, only difference being $300 start
up for the sat, $200 for cable. Although likely I can find (or wait) for a
better start up deal with cable.
?
With the radio upload link they have these days, upload speeds
are around 128.
?
Meanwhile, I have done some research, and Hughesnet, the
biggest sat biz, is like dealing with your worst nightmare cable company. The
other sat option is BlueSky, I can't find out much about them, but they offer a
slower service around 500kbps for a little less money. Now I'm reconsidering
digging that 90ft trench out to the utility pole and doing cable, a whopping
4mbps for the same money.
?
Dennis
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Internet Access Question
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Before the local telephone exchange went
digital we couldn't get DSL and I looked briefly at satellite but it was
touted as a business solution only as it was so expensive.
?
There's one other slight
problemmette.....You only get fast downloads ... unless your receiver
dish is actually a transmitter as well, so you need to keep your phone line
.....
Too far out to get DSL. I could get cable, but that would
involve digging a 90 foot trench down to the pole on the road, can't go
overhead wires, all utilities are buried here. Also cable would cost as much
per month. I have satellite tv and love it.
?
Dennis
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Re: NWC: : MBS STRIKES AGAIN - WAS goodwood breakfast club
So this Texan travels to England and finds all the
hotels full.
He's standing on the sidewalk, wondering what to do
when an Englishman comes up to him and says, "Oy mate. You can sleep in me shed,
but..............."
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Heck no, ma'am, that'd be downright rude of me.
:-) And even cooler, my vintage BMW is the Ex-Fitch magic /6, with the
(literally) bloody fuel tank.
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Jake (In Haze's Shed)
----- Original Message -----
That's good, I couldn't really let you sleep in
my shed if you wouldn't talk to me now, could I?
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Haze
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----- Original Message -----
Hey now, Miss Hazel, I have two BMWs, and I
talk to you all the time, in fact, I have what appears to be the same
model as the one in the photographs you sent. Now talking to Mr. Haddock
on the other hands. Phhht.
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Jake
----- Original Message -----
Will you still be allowed to talk to us if
you have a BMW?
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----- Original Message -----
Not only that but it will help me loose weight as I wont be able to
afford
food for a
month
Dick
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Re: Rear tire width question
Actually Jon is better at sorting this, as he did
post.
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Dennis
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Subject: [W650riders] Re: Rear tire width
question
Thanks for that info Dennis.
Stock 130/80 sidewall height =
104mm
100/90 sidewall height = 90mm
So with a 14mm sidewall height
difference x 2 as there are two
sidewalls in the diameter) the rear has
28mm or one inch taller
overall sidewall height than the front tire. So the
stock 100/90 19
and the stock 130/80 18 fully assembled and inflated are
actually the
same size. If this is true then why go to a 120/90 rear and
upset the
balance?
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Re: Exhausts & retro noise
The EMGO 17" reverse megaphones with repackable baffles. (IE removable baffles.) Scroll down about half way or so on this page to find them --- In W650riders@..., "Roy Easthill" <roy@...> wrote:
Raasks Mini Zooms.
Roy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ruari McLennan
To: W650 Riders
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Exhausts & retro noise
OK, folks, THIS is the SOUND I want!!! Where do we get them?
And are they slip-ons?
Ruari
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Re: NHC: onboard videocam?
Well, there's a challenge! Another WRiders competition in the offing?
R.
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I've got a very good mount actually. Question is, what do I video...?
Yes, why not make a mount and use your own 640 x 480 30 fps digicam? See:
Ruari
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: NHC: onboard videocam?
'Gift' is the phrase you use. Get a US lister to buy it for you...They
can
then post it as a gift...Something the retailer might not do.
640 by 480 pixels at 30 frames per second is not great...My digital
camera
can do that. Images look rough on a TV screen but if you use Windows
movie
maker and once your edit is done save it to your PC as an AVI file. It'll
be
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Re: NWC Girl talk WAS: goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
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talk WAS: goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
You are a very bad man....
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Subject: [W650riders] Re: NWC Girl talk
WAS: goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Some girl talk us guys just weren't meant to
see...
?
Ruari
?
----- Original Message -----
?
Every time I get on this list, I seem to be wanting a second time
after a while. he he. That's quite a lot 1.5 inches.
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Laura
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Re: Couple of newbie questions.
Yeas, front tyrewall stiffness also helps...fully inflated tyres are stiffer and resist the wobble better.
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--- My W had a wobble in the front when I bought it. Went away with
the right amount of air in the tires.
In W650riders@..., "pete7953" <peter.sluman@...> wrote:
Thanks for the input,
Well, I'm 12.5-13 stone and 5ft 10in. The bike has the original
AC03
front and the rear was the original AC04 mileage approx 5000. I've
just replaced the rear with an Avon roadrider as the AC04 appears to
be unavailable at the moment, according to my local dealer. The
shimmy problem is the same with both new avon and worn rear ac04
tyre. I've also tried various rear shock adjustments but have had no
luck.
--- In W650riders@..., Salvyrider <salvyrider@> wrote:
Hi Pete, good luck with your W.
The shimmy is normally a product of a worn front tire coupled
with
a rider
larger than the average Japanese, for whom the bike was originally
designed.
Let the group know your height and weight and I am sure others will
chime in
with feedback on tire and suspension interplay.
The cough is most likely a symptom of the W's lean-or-rich mix (depending on
RPM). If you stay here any length of time you'll be reading a lot
about
this. Others will comment - I am less than expert in this area.
-S
On 6/29/07, pete7953 <peter.sluman@> wrote:
Hello everyone, just got my W650 a few weeks ago and a
couple
of issues
have arisen. probably been dealt with before but who knows.
Handlebar Shake: when throttling back from 50+ or so mph, the
handlebars give a wobble/shake at between 45-50mph, ok if
you've
got
both hand on the handlebars, but if for some reason you don't,
there is
a noticeable shimmy until the speed drops to 40-45mph. Thought
it
mught
have been down to a worn (very) rear tyre, but a new one has
made
no
difference.
Momentary cough: sometimes, the engine gives a 'cough'. It
alwaqys
recovers instantly and then won't happen again for the rest of
the ride.
Any suggestions for these issues, or are they all like it?
Thanks
Pete
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hi all,
i've just replaced the front brake pads on my w. using the printed off
instructions from the files section. being mechanically inclined to
a certain degree i was a bit reluctant about starting this project. i
have had the pads for about a week now. i didn't want to mess things up
and go without riding until i could afford the dealer doing the work to
fix whatever i unfixed. well let me tell you, it ought to be a crime
for something to be so easy. less than ten minutes start to finish and
i was back on the road again. when it comes to doing the back brakes i
hope it will be as easy. i have been reading and learning about the w
in this group. most everyone is very knowledgeable about these bikes.
my main reason for writing is to let the new owners of w's know that
there is good information here, and a willingness to help. don't be
afraid to try somthing. thanks to all who answer questions and provide
this usefull info. keep the shiny side up and the rubber side down.
see ya, allen.
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Ruari
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From: "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: NHC: onboard videocam?
'Gift' is the phrase you use. Get a US lister to buy it for you...They can
then post it as a gift...Something the retailer might not do.
640 by 480 pixels at 30 frames per second is not great...My digital camera
can do that. Images look rough on a TV screen but if you use Windows movie
maker and once your edit is done save it to your PC as an AVI file. It'll
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Re: Couple of newbie questions.
Shimmy is fixed from the front.
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Thanks for the input,
Well, I'm 12.5-13 stone and 5ft 10in. The bike has the original AC03
front and the rear was the original AC04 mileage approx 5000. I've
just replaced the rear with an Avon roadrider as the AC04 appears to
be unavailable at the moment, according to my local dealer. The
shimmy problem is the same with both new avon and worn rear ac04
tyre. I've also tried various rear shock adjustments but have had no
luck.
--- In W650riders@..., Salvyrider <salvyrider@...> wrote:
Hi Pete, good luck with your W.
The shimmy is normally a product of a worn front tire coupled with
a rider
larger than the average Japanese, for whom the bike was originally designed.
Let the group know your height and weight and I am sure others will chime in
with feedback on tire and suspension interplay.
The cough is most likely a symptom of the W's lean-or-rich mix (depending on
RPM). If you stay here any length of time you'll be reading a lot about
this. Others will comment - I am less than expert in this area.
-S
On 6/29/07, pete7953 <peter.sluman@...> wrote:
Hello everyone, just got my W650 a few weeks ago and a couple
of issues
have arisen. probably been dealt with before but who knows.
Handlebar Shake: when throttling back from 50+ or so mph, the
handlebars give a wobble/shake at between 45-50mph, ok if you've
got
both hand on the handlebars, but if for some reason you don't,
there is
a noticeable shimmy until the speed drops to 40-45mph. Thought it
mught
have been down to a worn (very) rear tyre, but a new one has made
no
difference.
Momentary cough: sometimes, the engine gives a 'cough'. It alwaqys
recovers instantly and then won't happen again for the rest of
the ride.
Any suggestions for these issues, or are they all like it?
Thanks
Pete
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Re: NWC Girl talk WAS: goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
You are a very bad man....
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Subject: [W650riders] Re: NWC Girl talk
WAS: goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Some girl talk us guys just weren't meant to
see...
?
Ruari
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?
Every time I get on this list, I seem to be wanting a second time after
a while. he he. That's quite a lot 1.5 inches.
?
Laura
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?
I've spoken to another guy who confirmed that
Armours are not the company they used to be. Frankly, I couldn't in all
seriousness sell them to you guys....
?
Jon
Yes, but, sadly, I was too late on the
bandwagon!??? Did you ever get a chance to talk to Armours
about the possibility of slip-on Fishpipes, Jon?
?
Ruari
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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:30
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] Exhausts
& retro noise
?
They lok and sound like the Fishpipes to
me!...Sorry!
OK, folks, THIS is the SOUND I want!!!?
Where do we get them?
?
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=
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And are they slip-ons?
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Ruari
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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
If you fancy trail riding, check out this
site:
?
?
I was hoping to book a day in September but that
looks unlikely now as the Morini bill was about ?650 (ouch!!) but they do women
only days and have bikes suitable for short-legged people.? Their prices
also look very good.? I have spoken to Marianne a couple of times and she
recommends the Serrow if you are on a lower budget.
?
Haze
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Every time I get on this list, I seem to be wanting a second time after a
while. he he. That's quite a lot 1.5 inches. I like sitting on other people's
bikes. Yeah narrow that makes a lot of difference I know.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Hazel
Clarke <hazel@hazelclarke.orangehome.co.uk>
wrote:
You can't rule them out just because they look
high.? I've made the morini lower now by dropping the forks through the
yokes by about 1.5 inches.? It makes loads of difference & it still
has plenty of ground clearance.? The taller looking bikes are often
narrower as well which makes a difference as your legs are reaching more
directly to the ground, if that makes sense.? Get a few people to let
you sit on their bikes to get an idea.
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Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
I've sort of been interested in them as they look comfy (riding
position), well the ones I saw but don't know what they were. But they are
mostly high aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really helpful.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net < jonhaddock@onetel.net > wrote:
That is modern
trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke singles,
tuned for
instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They are very
low
geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
approximately
where the seat would have been.
Other off-road
sports are:
Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and
like trials, have no
lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually
handle really well but are
stupidly tall to give them masses of
suspension travel...expect seat heights
in excess of 960mm. Proper
Supermotos are basically Motocross bikes with
road front wheels
on.
Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to motocross but
are more softly
tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and
have lighting sets.
These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and
make literally stunning
commuters. In all seriousness, you would have
to try very hard indeed to
find a better bike than a late model Honda
XR250 for general urban duties.
They weigh...brace yourself...230
lbs....under half your Harley...and 30 bhp
in a bike that light makes
for serious performance. My old Yamaha 465 with
42 bhp would shut
down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot of
Enduro
bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are
Roads...i.e.
'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not
tarmac. In other words,
forgotten about or not used. Because they
were roads, bikes still had to be
fully road legal and obey national
speed limits. They are often just muddy
tracks across moors and
rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes are
not designed for
such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But being macho
men we
used 'em anyway!
Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less
robust. They have less
suspension travel, less power and are often
more civilised. You used to find
some in every makers range but today
in the UK, only grey imports are found.
They were popular amongst
older trail riders ( the ones who knew what they
were doing). James
has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and so
on, but older
bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly, the XR250
Honda is
so good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
All off-road
bikes are brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
incredibly
light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
superb
handling stability because they are built to win races on
bumpy rough ground
and as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a
motocross or enduro bike
with road oriented tyres on usually blows
'proper' road bikes into the
weeds.
They are incredibly comfy
too...really soft seats and amazingly good
suspension make for a real
armchair riding position.
Very high credibility
too......
Jon
> From: Laura
>>Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of
riding
>>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked
riding on
>>the grass at the rally next
weekend.
>
> Laura, here's some trials riding:
>
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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Not two stroke. Very few trail or enduro bikes are
two stroke and those that are tend to be surprisingly quiet unless they've been
played with. Motocross bikes were two stroke up to a few years ago and even
today all the major manufacturers still build two stroke MX bikes. They are so
much better than 4 stroke it's laughable. To give you an idea, the only way to
get four strokes to compete with two strokes in motocross is to let 250 cc four
strokes run with 125 two strokes, and in the 250 cc class, ANY capacity four
stroke up to at least 500cc is allowed to compete against the 250cc?2
strokes.
?
Most trials bikes are two stroke, most Enduro and
MX bikes are now four stroke. A two stroke MX bike is a very VERY quick machine
indeed. Imagine around 65 bhp in a 230 lb bike...basically the same power to
weight ratio as a Fireblade but instantly available. Instant wheelies in the
lower gears...general terror!
?
No, the four strokes are fine...If you can find an
XR250...have a bounce. Please note, the XR400 and XR600 are MUCH taller, don't
confuse them...the 250 is definitely the best.
?
?
Jon ( who rode a lowered XR400 across the Andorran
Alps)
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:15
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite like the idea.
Are they cheap could I have them as second bike?
KTMs look cool, definitely
too high. A friend just had to have his food reshaped as he came off doing a
wheelie at 70 (we think).
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... <jonhaddock@... >
wrote:
Yes, they ARE high, some higher than others,
but the Honda XR 250's are OK. I find I can manage those? well with my
27" inside leg, but I can't ride the KTM's for instance.
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Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
I've sort of been interested in
them as they look comfy (riding position), well the ones I saw but don't
know what they were. But they are mostly high aren't they. Thanks for that
long explanation really helpful.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... < jonhaddock@...
> wrote:
That
is modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke singles,
tuned for instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They are
very low
geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black
area approximately
where the seat would have been.
Other
off-road sports are:
Motocross where the bikes are tuned for
power and like trials, have no
lights and are not road legal. MX
bikes actually handle really well but are
stupidly tall to give them
masses of suspension travel...expect seat heights
in excess of
960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross bikes with
road
front wheels on.
Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to
motocross but are more softly
tuned with gear ratios more suitable to
road use, and have lighting sets.
These bikes are usually road legal
in the UK and make literally stunning
commuters. In all seriousness,
you would have to try very hard indeed to
find a better bike than a
late model Honda XR250 for general urban duties.
They weigh...brace
yourself...230 lbs....under half your Harley...and 30 bhp
in a bike
that light makes for serious performance. My old Yamaha 465 with
42
bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot of
Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are
Roads...i.e.
'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not
tarmac. In other words,
forgotten about or not used. Because they
were roads, bikes still had to be
fully road legal and obey national
speed limits. They are often just muddy
tracks across moors and
rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes are
not designed for
such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But being macho
men we
used 'em anyway!
Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less
robust. They have less
suspension travel, less power and are often
more civilised. You used to find
some in every makers range but today
in the UK, only grey imports are found.
They were popular amongst
older trail riders ( the ones who knew what they
were doing). James
has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and so
on, but older
bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly, the XR250
Honda is
so good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
All off-road
bikes are brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
incredibly
light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
superb
handling stability because they are built to win races on
bumpy rough ground
and as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a
motocross or enduro bike
with road oriented tyres on usually blows
'proper' road bikes into the
weeds.
They are incredibly comfy
too...really soft seats and amazingly good
suspension make for a real
armchair riding position.
Very high credibility
too......
Jon
> From: Laura
>>Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of
riding
>>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked
riding on
>>the grass at the rally next
weekend.
>
> Laura, here's some trials riding:
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