Re: Ui-view receiving lots of duplexers but few stations?
Given your location near the US-Canada border in NW New York state
it may be there are not many base stations near you.
Leave your station operating continuously for several days, then examine the station list in UI-View and see what stations and icons you are actually receiving.
You can sort the station list by distance. If you see stations 50 or 60 miles away you are probably getting most local traffic. My list did show one station from 107 miles. Recognize some of the stations are being digipeated to reach you.
Mike KB7WUK
Portland OR
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On 12/26/2023 11:16, kerry wrote: [Edited Message Follows]
Hello...wa2nan, Kerry here. Running uiview32 and receiving a lot of digipeaters but very few home stations on the screen. I do see several in the incoming and outgoing bar at the bottom but not going to the screen. Using WIDE2-2 setting..
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Re: Receiving very few stations on screen
On 12/26/2023 2:47 PM, kerry wrote: Hello...wa2nan, Kerry here. Running uiview32 and receiving a lot of digi's but very few home stations on the screen. I do see several in the incoming and outgoing bar at the bottom but not going to the screen. Using WIDE2-2 setting..
Using rf not online. See a lot of stations on the incoming bar at the bottom but they are not making it to the monitor screen..
What sort of map are you using?? Does it match the area you are located in???? If the map selected doesn't match the area you are receiving from, then nothing is going to show on-screen. Once again,? the transmit path WIDE2-2 has NO EFFECT on what you receive - it only determines how other stations handle your TRANSMISSIONS. IMPORTANT TO NOTE: The UIview program has now remained unchanged for _/NEARLY TWO /_/_DECADES_/, following the death of its author in 2004. It is an "orphan" frozen in time as of? 14 April 2004 during the "Windows XP era". This is long before Windows Vista, 7, 8, or 11 appeared. 10 or 11 appeared. Many settings and options are outdated, and need to be changed after the initial install. Full details are here on my website: <> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype:??????? WA8LMF EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page: APRS-over-VARA igates now operating on 30 & 60 meters <> "Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels <> -- APRS over VARA? -- <> Flying Digipeater! <>
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Receiving very few stations on screen
Hello...wa2nan, Kerry here. Running uiview32 and receiving a lot of digi's but very few home stations on the screen. I do see several in the incoming and outgoing bar at the bottom but not going to the screen. Using WIDE2-2 setting..
Using rf not online. See a lot of stations on the incoming bar at the bottom but they are not making it to the monitor screen..
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Re: Ui-view receiving lots of duplexers but few stations?
On 12/26/2023 2:09 PM, kerry wrote: Hello...wa2nan, Kerry here. Running uiview32 and receiving a lot of digital but very few home stations on the screen. I do see several in the incoming and outgoing bar at the bottom but not going to the screen. Using WIDE2-2 setting..
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Mute This Topic:/mt/103373784/187366 This question (I think) despite the message being all statements, makes no sense. What do duplexers have to do with any of this??? What does "receiving a lot of digital" mean???? All packet data (APRS transmissions) are digital. What does "Very few home stations on the screen" mean? ? How are your receiving?? Off the air, or from the Internet?? What radio / TNC / antenna are you using? etc. And finally "WIDE2-2 setting'? -- this has absolutely no effect on what you RECEIVE .? It only determines how your TRANSMISSIONS will be handled by other stations. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype:??????? WA8LMF EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page: APRS-over-VARA igates now operating on 30 & 60 meters <> "Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels <> -- APRS over VARA? -- <> Flying Digipeater! <>
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Another 60M APRS Road Test Tomorrow
[Friday 15 Dec 2023?? 15:15 local (US Eastern time / 2000 UTC ]
Tomorrow (Saturday? 16 Dec 2023) I will be conducting another 60 meters road test of APRS over classic AX.25 HF packet *vs*? APRS over the VARA high-performance HF modem.? This is another trip from Lansing, MI to Traverse City, MI - about 200 miles/360 km each way.
I will be beaconing alternately as WA8LMF-2 on classic packet APRS,? and as WA8LMF-1 on VARA.? Radio setup is the usual - Yaesu FT-891 running into an MFJ 60-meter hamstick mobile antenna on 60M "Channel 5" 5.403.5 MHz USB.? Peak power output will be about 50 watts in both modes. ? Receive/igatre setup at home is another FT-891 and a mini-dipole made of two 60M mobile hamsticks mounted horizontally about 12 feet / 2.9 meters above the ground to maximize NVIS receive.
I expect to depart around 09:30 local (US Eastern time) / 14:30 UTC.? The drive takes about 4 1/2 hours so the trip up will be entirely during daylight optimum NVIS propagation hours.? The return trip will start in the late afternoon, during the period of twilight-to-long-range-nighttime? propagation.? Depart / return times subject to change!
Hopefully, my presence will show on my own 60M UIview UI-Webserver maps.? Go to <> for the links to the various UIview mapping web servers on 60M. NOTE: I am not using the "FLdigi modes" MFSK16 & PSK31 on this test.
If I do get received at home, the posits will be igated to the APRS Internet System (APRS-IS) and viewable on APRS.fi.
<>????? (No SSID)??? Standard 2M packet APRS on 144.390 MHz.? (Generated by UIview and TS-700 transceiver)
<>??? VARA mode? (Generated by VARA and UIview)
<> ???? Classic AX.25 HF Packet (Generated by TinyTrack III+ in HF mode)
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EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:
"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
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Flying Digipeater!
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APRS Igates Over VARA Mode Now Operating on 30 & 60 Meters
[This is the workable successor to G4HYG's PSK63/MFSK16-based "APRS Messenger" for weak-signal HF APRS!]
*The world's first Tri-Mode APRS igates are now "open for business" 24/7 on both 30 and 60 meters....
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The WA8LMF UI-Webservers now receive and igate APRS over classic 300-baud AX.25HF packet,? APRS over MFSK16 & PSK31,? and *now APRS over VARA* on both 30 meters and 60 meters from my home station located in central Michigan.
VARA is one of the newest sound-card "digi-modes".? Written by Jose Ros EA5HVK, It can receive and decode error-free data transmissions at signal levels and S/Ns that literally can not be heard in the radio speaker.?? With stronger signals, it can exceed the net data rate of VHF/FM 1200-baud packet in a 500 Hz CW bandwidth on HF !? VARA is adaptive, adjusting it's transmit speed up and down based on error rate and S/N., switching from simple to more complex multi-tone QPSK wave forms, based on error rate and the bandwidth of the radio.
In a 2300 Hz SSB bandwidth, it can exceed the throughput of 9600-baud VHF/UHF packet on HF!? It is already starting to replace the pricey (USD $600) SCS Pactor4 modems on Winlink HF radio email systems, purely in software with a standard soundcard interface.? The basic version, usable on the low data rates of APRS, is free.? A USD $70 registration unlocks the higher-speed modes.
Currently, the other widely-used activity, layered on top of the VARA "softmodem" is "VarAC Chat",? a live keyboard-to-keyboard chat application that can also do file transfers and "igate" received beacons to the PSK Reporter network. Running on top of VARA, it can equal the weak-signal performance of FT-8, but with free-form conversations instead of the? hello--sig report--goodbye canned exchanges of FT-8.
VARA presents a KISS-over-IP interface to external programs. In principle, any application that can run over classic packet TNCs (messaging systems, BBS systems, APRS, etc) can run over a VARA link instead,? with an ENORMOUS increase (15-20 dB advantage) in weak-signal capabilities.? I have been testing APRS-over-VARA for over a year now. Some of my findings early this year are summarized on my web site at:
<> This was a competitive "shoot out" between classic 300-baud HF packet and VARA on 60 meters, on a 500-mile road trip.
At least three APRS client applications (PinPoint, APRSis-32 and YAAC) can link directly to a KISS-over-IP interface.? For older APRS clients, like *UIview*, that can only do KISS over a serial port, the third-party "Swiss-Army-Knife" of com port utilities "VSPE" can quickly and easily create an? IP<-->Serial-Com-Port? bridge. Full details on setting up VARA for use with APRS applications is here on my web site:
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Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:
"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
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-- APRS over VARA? --
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60-Meter APRS!?? HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
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Flying Digipeater!
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?? model: BrandMeister DMR Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 11/3/2023 9:42 AM, Rusty wrote: I changed to wide2-1.
What is APBM1S and what us ID? I don't know? I have a few other stations but they all run with different SSIDs. I only have one station running as WB4BSD. My current aprs server is noam.aprs2.net:14580. It won't stay connected and I don't see the influx of stations like I use to. I have no extra log-on text.
Rusty
WB4BSD
On 10/27/2023 10:01 AM, Keith VE7GDH wrote:
Rusty WB4BSD write…
Years ago, when I would connect to the APRS Server I would instantly receive tons of stations popping up from all over the world and messages would flood in.? Now when I connect, I get nothing. First, it looks like you have gone into the “Station Setup” and changed the Unproto Address from APRS to WIDE1-1. That should be corrected.
By the way, if your intention was to actually use a path of WIDE1-1, I would not recommend it. Fixed stations and especially digipeaters and iGates shouldn’t be asking fill-in digipeaters for assistance.
I would suggest a one hop path of WIDE2-1, or a two hop WIDE2-2 if you really need it.
Do you have more than one station running under WB4BSD? What is APBM1S and what us ID? It will be less confusing for others if you use a different SSID for other APRS stations under your call sign.
So, back to your question. You don’t appear to be connected to a server right now. When you do connect, what server (and port) are you using, and what do you have entered in the “extra logon text” in the APRS Server Setup?
If you do t have a need to connect to a specific server, noam.aprs2.net:14580 would be a good choice.
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73 Keith VE7GDH
“I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!”
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I changed to wide2-1.
What is APBM1S and what us ID? I don't know? I have a few other stations but they all run with different SSIDs. I only have one station running as WB4BSD. My current aprs server is noam.aprs2.net:14580. It won't stay connected and I don't see the influx of stations like I use to. I have no extra log-on text.
Rusty
WB4BSD
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On 10/27/2023 10:01 AM, Keith VE7GDH wrote: Rusty WB4BSD write…
Years ago, when I would connect to the APRS Server I would instantly receive tons of stations popping up from all over the world and messages would flood in. Now when I connect, I get nothing. First, it looks like you have gone into the “Station Setup” and changed the Unproto Address from APRS to WIDE1-1. That should be corrected.
By the way, if your intention was to actually use a path of WIDE1-1, I would not recommend it. Fixed stations and especially digipeaters and iGates shouldn’t be asking fill-in digipeaters for assistance.
I would suggest a one hop path of WIDE2-1, or a two hop WIDE2-2 if you really need it.
Do you have more than one station running under WB4BSD? What is APBM1S and what us ID? It will be less confusing for others if you use a different SSID for other APRS stations under your call sign.
So, back to your question. You don’t appear to be connected to a server right now. When you do connect, what server (and port) are you using, and what do you have entered in the “extra logon text” in the APRS Server Setup?
If you do t have a need to connect to a specific server, noam.aprs2.net:14580 would be a good choice.
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73 Keith VE7GDH
“I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!”
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Betcha he missed the server string update.
I found out the server string had changed with a "2" in it.
That's what fixed my issue a few years back.
Kevin
KD7DFV
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On Fri, Oct 27, 2023, 07:02 Keith VE7GDH <ve7gdh@...> wrote: Rusty WB4BSD write…
Years ago, when I would connect to the APRS Server I would instantly receive tons of stations popping up from all over the world and messages
would flood in. Now when I connect, I get nothing.
First, it looks like you have gone into the “Station Setup” and changed
the Unproto Address from APRS to WIDE1-1. That should be corrected.
By the way, if your intention was to actually use a path of WIDE1-1, I
would not recommend it. Fixed stations and especially digipeaters and
iGates shouldn’t be asking fill-in digipeaters for assistance.
I would suggest a one hop path of WIDE2-1, or a two hop WIDE2-2 if you
really need it.
Do you have more than one station running under WB4BSD? What is APBM1S and
what us ID? It will be less confusing for others if you use a different
SSID for other APRS stations under your call sign.
So, back to your question. You don’t appear to be connected to a server
right now. When you do connect, what server (and port) are you using, and
what do you have entered in the “extra logon text” in the APRS Server Setup?
If you do t have a need to connect to a specific server,
noam.aprs2.net:14580 would be a good choice.
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73 Keith VE7GDH
“I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!”
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73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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Rusty WB4BSD write… Years ago, when I would connect to the APRS Server I would instantly receive tons of stations popping up from all over the world and messages would flood in. Now when I connect, I get nothing. First, it looks like you have gone into the “Station Setup” and changed the Unproto Address from APRS to WIDE1-1. That should be corrected. By the way, if your intention was to actually use a path of WIDE1-1, I would not recommend it. Fixed stations and especially digipeaters and iGates shouldn’t be asking fill-in digipeaters for assistance. I would suggest a one hop path of WIDE2-1, or a two hop WIDE2-2 if you really need it. Do you have more than one station running under WB4BSD? What is APBM1S and what us ID? It will be less confusing for others if you use a different SSID for other APRS stations under your call sign. So, back to your question. You don’t appear to be connected to a server right now. When you do connect, what server (and port) are you using, and what do you have entered in the “extra logon text” in the APRS Server Setup? If you do t have a need to connect to a specific server, noam.aprs2.net:14580 would be a good choice. -- 73 Keith VE7GDH “I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!” -- 73 Keith VE7GDH "I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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I've been running UI-View32 for several years now and across a couple different computers. I'm fairly happy with it.
I've noticed something though. Years ago, when I would connect to the APRS Server I would instantly receive tons of stations popping up from all over the world and messages would flood in.? Now when I connect, I get nothing. What happened? Is it me or did something change that I missed.
Thanks all!
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Rusty
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Updated UIview Virtual Machine Package Now On My Website
For some years now, I have had a ready-to-run UIview setup packaged as a VMware virtual machine on my website, for download.? This bundle included UIview, installed and ready to run, with all it's plug-ins including Precision Mapping 9.0, along with an installer for the freeware VMware Player required to run the VM.
I have just updated the bundle with extensive revisions to the install notes and a much more recent version of the VMware Player. I have tested and verified that the VM now runs on Windows 11, as well as Win XP, 7, 8.x and 10.? I now have the VM and VMware running successfully under "Windows Tiny 11" on? my el-cheapo USD $129 Walmart Lenovo 14" laptop with only 4 GB RAM.
("Tiny 11" is an unofficial distribution of Windows 11 that results in an installed footprint less than 1/3rd (!) that of the? normal Win11 -- 7 GB compared to 22 GB+ for standard 11.? This is achieved by stripping out a lot of the MS bloat including smart-phone-app wanna-be MS Store app cruft, games, hooks for popup advertising & user tracking, and the sprawling invasive Edge browser. ? It will run on a lot of hardware that Microsoft claims can't run Win 11, including those lacking the "trusted computing platform" module and oceans of RAM.)
The freeware VMware Player application is also available for MacOS and Linux, though not included in my bundle.? This means UIview can be run on Macs and Linux devices, including potentially the higher-powered versions of the Raspberry Pi.
Go to my website for more info and the download link for the 5.4 GB ZIP file at:
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Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:
"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
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-- APRS over FLdigi Modes? --
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60-Meter APRS!?? HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
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Flying Digipeater!
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Hi Mike,
I THINK this is what you are looking for. These settings are on my APRS node. Please see below:
APRS Server Setup
Select one or more servers:
newengland.aprs2.net:14580 (insert this server into the server list)
Firenet.US:14582 (insert this server into the server list)
Extra logon text:
Eastern half of USA: filter a/49/-96/26/-66 t/n
All of USA: filter a/56/-125/26/-66 t/n
filter a/50/-130/20/-70 t/n
APRS server log on required X
Validation number: Add your validation number here
Filter Guide:
Updated UI-NWS Information (Revised 2-13-20, con’d)
Find files configuration files named UINWS and Uiview32
Look for WXSVR Server
Change from FQDN=wxsvr.net to FQDN=wx.aprs-is.net
Messages – updated 2-3-2022 (Revised 2-3-20)
Use a capitol letter “I” instead of a number “1” in the Port box for WXBOT
Hope these setting help.
73,
Phil N1BOW
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:38 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [UI-View] Commands For a full list of APRS-IS server filter options, see Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 7/21/2023 12:22 AM, Mike N7ZEF wrote: Howdy;
I am looking for the commands that are added in the server setup that limit what you see and what you don't want to see. Had all that on my other machine but it died a power supply death. Like I don't want to see all the flow stations. Items like that. I used to have a paper with all that bit I think it got lose with the accidental file wiping from a program I didn't understand.
Appreciate any suggestions!
73
Mike - N7ZEF
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For a full list of APRS-IS server filter options, see
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 7/21/2023 12:22 AM, Mike N7ZEF wrote: Howdy;
I am looking for the commands that are added in the server setup that limit what you see and what you don't want to see. Had all that on my other machine but it died a power supply death. Like I don't want to see all the flow stations. Items like that. I used to have a paper with all that bit I think it got lose with the accidental file wiping from a program I didn't understand.
Appreciate any suggestions!
73
Mike - N7ZEF
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Hey Mike,
If using IS servers on port 14580 in the text to send on connection, simply add m/ distance in kilometers. That's it!
Ross kc7rjk
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On Jul 20, 2023 9:22 PM, Mike N7ZEF <n7zef@...> wrote:
Howdy;
I am looking for the commands that are added in the server setup that
limit what you see and what you don't want to see. Had all that on my
other machine but it died a power supply death. Like I don't want to see
all the flow stations. Items like that. I used to have a paper with all
that bit I think it got lose with the accidental file wiping from a
program I didn't understand.
Appreciate any suggestions!
73
Mike - N7ZEF
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Howdy;
I am looking for the commands that are added in the server setup that limit what you see and what you don't want to see. Had all that on my other machine but it died a power supply death. Like I don't want to see all the flow stations. Items like that. I used to have a paper with all that bit I think it got lose with the accidental file wiping from a program I didn't understand.
Appreciate any suggestions!
73
Mike - N7ZEF
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Re: hummm relay what i heard to an other station?
hi kerry,,, yes i think it is that line. i turn on a led in my brain! i will try thanks gervais ________________________________ De : [email protected] < [email protected]> de la part de kerry <kerry@...> Envoyé : 16 juillet 2023 18:54 ? : [email protected] < [email protected]> Objet : Re: [UI-View] hummm relay what i heard to an other station? Hi Gervais, I believe the order would be ve2ckn v va2dq, wide2-2 Kerry WA2NAN ?Get BlueMail for Android ?
-------- Original Message -------- From: Gervais Fillion <ve2ckn2@...> Sent: Sun Jul 16 18:39:49 EDT 2023 To: " [email protected]" < [email protected]> Subject: [UI-View] hummm relay what i heard to an other station? hi all years ago i remember i could send at another station via the internet all i was hearing here,, i think it was a line,word,,,call letter in the set up of my station,, i dont remember what is was? for example if i wanted to transmit at va2dq via here ,, it was (i think) something like ve2ckn v wide2-2,va2dq is it ok?? so va2dq would retransmit all my data on the air at home it has been years,decade since that time thanks for your help gervais ve2ckn
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Re: hummm relay what i heard to an other station?
Hi Gervais,
I believe the order would be ve2ckn v va2dq, wide2-2
Kerry WA2NAN
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-------- Original Message -------- From: Gervais Fillion <ve2ckn2@...> Sent: Sun Jul 16 18:39:49 EDT 2023 To: " [email protected]" < [email protected]> Subject: [UI-View] hummm relay what i heard to an other station? hi all years ago i remember i could send at another station via the internet all i was hearing here,, i think it was a line,word,,,call letter in the set up of my station,, i dont remember what is was? for example if i wanted to transmit at va2dq via here ,, it was (i think) something like ve2ckn v wide2-2,va2dq is it ok?? so va2dq would retransmit all my data on the air at home it has been years,decade since that time thanks for your help gervais ve2ckn
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Doug if you have an email i could send you a screen shot of my setup that could help you! but not at everyone here 73 gervais ve2ckn ________________________________ De : [email protected] < [email protected]> de la part de Doug VE1LG via groups.io <doug@...> Envoyé : 16 juillet 2023 15:14 ? : [email protected] < [email protected]> Objet : [UI-View] No stations via RF Hi All, I have a new setup of UI-View32 and am using it with my TM-D710A in TNC mode (using a custom .CMD file for it). I have not set up any Internet stuff, strictly RF. In the terminal I am seeing traffic like so: VE1HCA>APNU19,VE1ARC*,WIDE3-2:!4456.83NS06355.91W#PHG5498/W3 Willow Hill, NS MARCAN UIDIGI <NSARA> VE1HCA>APNU19,VE1AEH*,WIDE3-2:!4456.83NS06355.91W#PHG5498/W3 Willow Hill, NS MARCAN UIDIGI <NSARA> VE0RDM-9>T5PR4T,VE1AEH*,WIDE3-2:`\;Zlq,k/'"5[}|)<&#(#|!wb{!|3 VE0RDM-9>T5PR4T,VE1SDR,VE1ARC*,WIDE3-1:`\;Zlq,k/'"5[}|)<&#(#|!wb{!|3 VE1TPL>APNU19,VE1ARC*,WIDE3-2:!4532.57NS06405.62W#PHG5450/W3 Lynn Mtn,NS MARCAN UDIGI TPARC VE1TPL>APNU19,VE1AEH*,WIDE3-2:!4532.57NS06405.62W#PHG5450/W3 Lynn Mtn,NS MARCAN UDIGI TPARC VE1CA-9>T5PY6V,VE1XK,WIDE1,VE1VZ,WIDE2*:`ZTip 5>/`"5u}Rob, Mobile, Scanning_% But none of it shows up on my map (of course I'm talking about stations in my local area that would even be on my map) and the station list window is completely empty as is every other type of list. I've gone through the settings and don't see where I've gone wrong. 73, Doug VE1LG
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hummm relay what i heard to an other station?
hi all
years ago i remember i could send at another station via the internet all i was hearing here,,
i think it was a line,word,,,call letter in the set up of my station,,
i dont remember what is was?
for example if i wanted to transmit at va2dq via here ,,
it was (i think) something like
ve2ckn v wide2-2,va2dq is it ok?? so va2dq would retransmit all my data on the air at home
it has been years,decade since that time
thanks for your help
gervais ve2ckn
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kerry
Gervais Fillion