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In article <923987889.14105@...>, a.ralph@... writes

From: a.ralph@...

Hi all, here are my observations to date.

Missing Features 1 ?
Is there any facility to freeze the scroll bars, so that on PC shutdown,and
restart, the map is in the same place, as was last left.

If not, would other user like it, and could Roger provide it ?

I can do that.

Missing Features 2 ?

I have seen the request for zoom and have read Rogers reply, perhaps instead of
zoom to remove the clutter of houses which have similar lat/long details,
perhaps could there be the following :-

A Right click command which may say "put to back" or "keep on top", like
powerpoint and other drawing packages do ? or have the option of a one large
house (Town house/flats Hi) with a list of calls attached to the same house ? I
assume that there would have to be a user menu which would say "If the stations
are with the area of xx size then show only one house".

I'll have to think about that...

Finally wonder if anyone has noticed these effect ?
Observation report 1......
When viewing a map, or looking at the station list, if an incomming mesage
arrives, rather than jump to the message screen, it puts up a blue error
message
box, which contains the incomming message. There is an error number shown, but
next time I will write it down (Sorry Roger) this has only happened twice
during
many hours of operation.

Other useful information would be:-

1. Is "Bring To Foreground" checked? Presumably it is?
2. Is it a Windows "blue screen of death" or a small message box?
3. What type of video card are you using?

I don't get the problem, and I've tested it on four PCs with a mix of
Win95, Win98 and WfW. Also several different video cards. Unless other
people are getting the same problem, I would suspect the video card
driver. Some of the ones distributed with Win98 were crap! (I'm on the
second update for my Millennium II since the driver that was included on
the Win98 CD, and I can still find bugs in it.) However, that might
become clearer once the contents of the message are known.

Observation report 2......
I notice in 071b that the setting for colours,borders, and backround do not
seem
right, the border colour seem to be the background ?

I think V0.71b made the border colours work correctly, but there was
still a problem with the background colour. :-(

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK

Hi all, here are my observations to date.

Missing Features 1 ?
Is there any facility to freeze the scroll bars, so that on PC shutdown,and restart, the map is in the same place, as was last left.

If not, would other user like it, and could Roger provide it ?

Missing Features 2 ?

I have seen the request for zoom and have read Rogers reply, perhaps instead of zoom to remove the clutter of houses which have similar lat/long details, perhaps could there be the following :-

A Right click command which may say "put to back" or "keep on top", like powerpoint and other drawing packages do ? or have the option of a one large house (Town house/flats Hi) with a list of calls attached to the same house ? I assume that there would have to be a user menu which would say "If the stations are with the area of xx size then show only one house".


Finally wonder if anyone has noticed these effect ?
Observation report 1......
When viewing a map, or looking at the station list, if an incomming mesage arrives, rather than jump to the message screen, it puts up a blue error message box, which contains the incomming message. There is an error number shown, but next time I will write it down (Sorry Roger) this has only happened twice during many hours of operation.

Observation report 2......
I notice in 071b that the setting for colours,borders, and backround do not seem right, the border colour seem to be the background ?

Regarding my previous message on Unproto being corrupted when in host mode set to "none" via a KPC2, I took Rodgers advice, and now run the TNC in kiss mode, and my problem has gone away. (It was leaving the TNC permantly programmed with the unproto being the callsign of the station you last worked even after UIview was closed down).

System

Pentium 133
Kantronics KPC2 in Kiss
UIview 071b
Win 98

Regards

Alan G8XLH

Hi Roger, one or two things I would like to see included if possible.
:
1. Display of speed and height from GPS equipped stations.
2. At the moment the log has to be turned on at the start of mobile activities, wonder if an option for an autolog could be included, perhaps triggered by a mobile station. Or a show tracks, so that you can see whose been across the screen when you haven't been looking!

Cheers Chris G3XVL
chris@...

In article <000001be84fc$3234d1e0$be57883e@ray>, Raymond Jones
<rayjones@...> writes

From: "Raymond Jones" <rayjones@...>

Hello Roger,

I have discovered a small problem with the 0.7b update to UI-View. If
stations which appear with the asterisk in the Station List window, are
queried, pinged, or messaged, then the asterisk is transferred with the
call-sign, to the callsign box of the query, ping, or message window. To
overcome this error, it is necessary to edit out the asterisk to make the
call-sign correct.

That was fixed in the V0.71b update. For new subscribers, it can be
found at:-



As I have said before, please do not publicise outside this list any
download links that I provide.

Do you have any plans for adding support for Flexnet? Then I can use it with
the normal station setup here?

No, not at the moment. Whether or not I'll ever add it, I'm not sure. It
was a real pain to add it to WinPack, and resulted in an awful lot of
cries for support. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I get the impression that
there aren't many Windows/Flexnet users in the UK.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK

Hello Roger,

I have discovered a small problem with the 0.7b update to UI-View. If
stations which appear with the asterisk in the Station List window, are
queried, pinged, or messaged, then the asterisk is transferred with the
call-sign, to the callsign box of the query, ping, or message window. To
overcome this error, it is necessary to edit out the asterisk to make the
call-sign correct.

This only occurs from the buttons in the Station List window, and not by
right-clicking on the station displayed in the Map window. I do hope that is
clear:-)

My setup for this is WfWg3.11/UI-View/BPQ/NOD2BAY/Baycom modem. I have set
this up purely to have a play with UI-View.

Do you have any plans for adding support for Flexnet? Then I can use it with
the normal station setup here?

73, Ray, G3NKL

Thanks for the update Roger, now displaying correctly on my packet machine
in Win 3.11. I am still awaiting repair of the W95 packet machine !

I still have it running on 2 machines, under win 3.11 and W95, on both 2 and
70cms. There does appear to be a slight problem with the background colour
of Ui stations and non-ui stations, they are both the same !

From: Roger Barker <roger@...>
Subject: Re: Ideas.

In article <370FBBEC.190C2F85@...>, Mark Simper
<mark.simper@...> writes
[snip]

Hmmm.. not too sure how well detecting a BBS from the sending stations

call

would work, it may be a single isolated case but I know of one BBS that is
sending beacons from the sysops own call:-

18:33:46R G4MRU>ID Port=1 <UI C>:
!5328.70N/00135.60W-GB7MRU Sheffield

The other two BBS's that I can here from here at the moment are however
sending beacons from the BBS call
i.e. GB7???

Or were you meaning only to look at the call in the case of a station that
is
sending a locator square rather than an longitude/latitude style beacon?

I've now had a go at it. I think it should work. What I've done is:

(a) Added symbols to SYMBOLS.BMP and SYMBOLS.TXT for BBS and node.

(b) Added a [TRANSLATE] section to SYMBOLS.TXT, which allows you to put
in callsign patterns, or individual callsigns, and what you want them to
be displayed as. The default entries (which can, of course, be removed)
are:-

GB7???=BBS
GB7??=NODE

In the case you quote of the sysops callsign being used, then you could
add:-
G4MRU=BBS

(Although it would be better if he changed his '-' to a 'B'.)

Both the sysops of GB7MRU and GB7ADH have updated their beacon text,
transmitted on 2 & 70 cms, to include the 'B' character instead of the '-'
character as of Sunday 11th April.

New Beacon is !5328.70N/00135.60WBGB7MRU Sheffield

After much experimentation, we have been unable to include the BBS call
instead of the Node call in the beacon, as it appears to affect the >mail
and >NNA unproto beacons. Hope the inclusion of the 'B' character will help.
More testing will take place, although the use of NODEcall may change in the
future if the DCC removes the option of using the HOMEcall and insists in
the use of the BBScall as the NODEcall. I am afraid that although I use BPQ
myself, I am not an expert in its configuration...perhaps only G8BPQ was !
and the sysops concerned wish to retain their own call as the node call.
Perhaps we have missed something somewhere !

The nodes GB7NC and GB7NS (and hopefully GB7AX soon) are also Tx'ing locator
information on 2m and 70cms. Is there a suggestion that we should replace
the '-' character with a 'B' character, or perhaps another character such as
'N' for Node?

Thoughts please

I can see Ui-View becoming a very useful tool for network management and
wonder whether Roger has considered perhaps the use of 'layering' (for want
of a word) so that the user could selectively show the stations on the map ?

For instance user selectable display of something like :-
1) Ui-View Stations
2) Other non UI stations
3) Wx Stations
4) BBS Stations
5) Node Stations
6) All Stations
etc (if more are needed !!!), switchable on and off as required.

Sorry for giving you an instant headache Roger, I guess it may be a little
tricky !

The appropriate symbol and description is then used, irrespective of
whether the station is transmitting a full long/lat or just a locator.

Any comments will be gratefully received, before I put it in the next
update.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE

73 John M0ADS
Remote Sysop GB7MRU

E-mail M0ADS@...
M0ADS@...

Packet M0ADS@GB7MRU.#19.GBR.EU

Roger

I like the idea of being able to specify the type of symbol to be used, IE
for BBS's and look forward to the latest version. Here's hoping for a
non-time limited version.

de Dave G7HJX

Roger,
Just a simple thank you, for all the hard work you have put into UI-View and to say that your idea for symbols is a good one.

73 - Eddy, G6UQI.

(Whoops, sent this to the wrong group previously, sorry)

Greetings.

Not exactly related to the operation of UI-View, but I have a GPS-2plus in
my car and a spare Tiny-2 Mk2 sitting in the shack. I'd like to get the
two interfaced together and use them when mobile, but I don't have a
manual for the Tiny-2 and have no idea how to configure it all up to work.

Can anyone advise me (perhaps by e-mail so it doesn't clutter the list) of
what I need to do to get this working.

73 de Keith.
--
Keith Maton, G6NHU

feek@...
ICQ: 1776683

- Careful with that Axe

In article <370FBBEC.190C2F85@...>, Mark Simper
<mark.simper@...> writes
[snip]

Hmmm.. not too sure how well detecting a BBS from the sending stations call
would work, it may be a single isolated case but I know of one BBS that is
sending beacons from the sysops own call:-

18:33:46R G4MRU>ID Port=1 <UI C>:
!5328.70N/00135.60W-GB7MRU Sheffield

The other two BBS's that I can here from here at the moment are however
sending beacons from the BBS call
ie GB7???

Or were you meaning only to look at the call in the case of a station that is
sending a locator square rather than an longitude/latitude style beacon?

I've now had a go at it. I think it should work. What I've done is:-

(a) Added symbols to SYMBOLS.BMP and SYMBOLS.TXT for BBS and node.

(b) Added a [TRANSLATE] section to SYMBOLS.TXT, which allows you to put
in callsign patterns, or individual callsigns, and what you want them to
be displayed as. The default entries (which can, of course, be removed)
are:-

GB7???=BBS
GB7??=NODE

In the case you quote of the sysops callsign being used, then you could
add:-
G4MRU=BBS

(Although it would be better if he changed his '-' to a 'B'.)

The appropriate symbol and description is then used, irrespective of
whether the station is transmitting a full long/lat or just a locator.

Any comments will be gratefully received, before I put it in the next
update.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK

Hi All,

Roger Barker wrote:

From: Roger Barker <roger@...>

I've now had a go at it. I think it should work. What I've done is:-

(a) Added symbols to SYMBOLS.BMP and SYMBOLS.TXT for BBS and node.

(b) Added a [TRANSLATE] section to SYMBOLS.TXT, which allows you to put
in callsign patterns, or individual callsigns, and what you want them to
be displayed as. The default entries (which can, of course, be removed)
are:-

GB7???=BBS
GB7??=NODE

In the case you quote of the sysops callsign being used, then you could
add:-
G4MRU=BBS

(Although it would be better if he changed his '-' to a 'B'.)

The appropriate symbol and description is then used, irrespective of
whether the station is transmitting a full long/lat or just a locator.

Any comments will be gratefully received, before I put it in the next
update.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sounds good to me Roger can't wait for the next release.


73's de Mark.

Makes more sense for the BBS Sysop to Flag it with a "B".. That's what I
have done here....

~~~~~~~~~~
Jon Eyes G7OMN
Southport UK.

To make it easy for those who haven't done it yet, I've appended a new
symbol.bmp and symbol.txt file, with an entry for a BBS.

Well done Roger, for another innovative idea.. Look fwd to the full release
version before the beta's expire!

~~~~~~~~~~
Jon Eyes G7OMN
Southport UK.

Hi All,

Roger Barker wrote:

From: Roger Barker <roger@...>

In article <370F411B.9031F86B@...>, Mark Simper
<mark.simper@...> writes

From: Mark Simper <mark.simper@...>

Hi all,

Roger wrote:-

If the BBSs are sending locators, you can still get a BBS symbol if you

make yourself a BBS BMP, and put multiple copies of it in the
UI-VIEW&#92;SYMBOLS directory, each named according to the name of a BBS
that you hear transmitting a locator. E.g. GB7AAA.BMP, GB7BBB.BMP, etc.

That's what I'd been doing already! Thought it might have been nice to
have it done automaticaly though.

If you follow the instructions in my previous message, it will become
automatic for BBSs sending long/lat and a symbol character of 'B'. When
it comes to a locator beacon, there's nothing in it that identifies the
station type.

However, I expect I could change the symbol if the sending callsign was
GB7???. I don't think that would cause a problem.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK

Hmmm.. not too sure how well detecting a BBS from the sending stations call
would work, it may be a single isolated case but I know of one BBS that is
sending beacons from the sysops own call:-

18:33:46R G4MRU>ID Port=1 <UI C>:
!5328.70N/00135.60W-GB7MRU Sheffield

The other two BBS's that I can here from here at the moment are however
sending beacons from the BBS call
ie GB7???

Or were you meaning only to look at the call in the case of a station that is
sending a locator square rather than an longitude/latitude style beacon?

73's de Mark. M1DKS

In article <370F411B.9031F86B@...>, Mark Simper
<mark.simper@...> writes

From: Mark Simper <mark.simper@...>

Hi all,

Roger wrote:-

If the BBSs are sending locators, you can still get a BBS symbol if you

make yourself a BBS BMP, and put multiple copies of it in the
UI-VIEW&#92;SYMBOLS directory, each named according to the name of a BBS
that you hear transmitting a locator. E.g. GB7AAA.BMP, GB7BBB.BMP, etc.

That's what I'd been doing already! Thought it might have been nice to
have it done automaticaly though.

If you follow the instructions in my previous message, it will become
automatic for BBSs sending long/lat and a symbol character of 'B'. When
it comes to a locator beacon, there's nothing in it that identifies the
station type.

However, I expect I could change the symbol if the sending callsign was
GB7???. I don't think that would cause a problem.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK

Hi all,

Roger wrote:-

If the BBSs are sending locators, you can still get a BBS symbol if you

make yourself a BBS BMP, and put multiple copies of it in the
UI-VIEW&#92;SYMBOLS directory, each named according to the name of a BBS
that you hear transmitting a locator. E.g. GB7AAA.BMP, GB7BBB.BMP, etc.

That's what I'd been doing already! Thought it might have been nice to
have it done automaticaly though.

73's de Mark. M1DKS

I've just uploaded the V0.71b update to my web site. Please note that
there is only an update, not a complete installation system. The update
can be applied to V0.6b or V0.7b, it includes all the changes that were
introduced in V0.7b. The url is:-



Please don't publicise the link outside this mailing list.

Here are the relevant sections of HISTORY.TXT:-

V0.7b 1999-Apr-06 1. If you switched to another app when one of
UI-Views set-up dialogues was open, then, when you
switched back, the dialogue seemed to have
disappeared. (In fact it hadn't, and you could use
Alt+Tab to get back to it.) This strange behaviour
is now fixed.
2. "Colours..." option added to the station right-
click menu. This allows you to change the
foreground and background colours of the station
callsign labels.
3. "Add UI-View Tag" option added to the Station
Setup and the Wx Station Setup dialogues. If this
box is checked, then a tag like "{UIV07}" is
appended to the station and/or wx beacons. This
allows other UI-View systems to identify you as a
Ui-View user. Stations transmitting the tag are
marked with a '*' in the Stations List and their
callsign labels on the maps use different colours
to stations that aren't transmitting the tag.
4. Fixed a problem that stopped GPS data from some
GPSs being displayed.
5. The longitude and latitude in the map INF files
can now be input as either <longitude>,<latitude>
or <latitude>,<longitude>. This makes it easier to
copy the corner co-ordinates from the Attica CD
maps.
6. The help updated to reflect the above changes.
Also a comment added to the Station Setup section
about sending beacons via digipeaters.
7. HISTORY.TXT option added to the Help menu.

V0.71b 1999-Apr-09 1. Bug fixed in Ping, Query and Message functions
when used from the Stations List on stations
marked with a '*'.
2. Bug fixed with changing the label border colour.
3. There has been a problem reported about the
selection tick not being shown on the "Announce
Stations" sub-menu. I don't get the problem, but
I've tried to fix it. Note that being able to turn
off both options on the sub-menu is by design,
it's not a bug.
4. Setting Expire time to '0' in Miscellaneous
Setup now stops stations being expired.
5. "BEACON EVERY 0" added to INITNC.CMD. This
means that, by default, the TNC's internal beacon
is disabled if you use "host mode none". (If you
really want to enable the internal beacon, then
you must remove this line from INITNC.CMD.)
6. If a message line contained an IARU locator,
it was regarded as a beacon, not as a message
line. This could result in stations moving and
changing their symbol to a grid square, even
though they were sending long/lat in their beacon,
if, for instance, they included their locator in
their Station Information.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK

In article <370E788B.9E739D58@...>, Mark Simper
<mark.simper@...> writes

From: Mark Simper <mark.simper@...>

Hi All,
One or two suggestions for the next release of ui-view, how
about a 5th station symbol to denote bbs's? On a map that gets as
crowded as mine can do on occasion it makes them a lot easier to pick
out.

You can add your own generic symbols. If you read SYMBOLS.TXT, it
explains how to do it. I only put in a few because I didn't want to
appear to be copying the APRS symbol characters, but, on the other hand,
it seemed a bit pointless to be making up different ones for UI-View! I
think the APRS symbol character for a BBS is 'B'. So all you should need
to do is:-

(a) Add a line to SYMBOLS.TXT saying:-

B4,BBS

(b) Edit SYMBOLS.BMP in Paint, or whatever, increase the width to 100
pixels (it's currently 80) and draw yourself a suitable symbol for a BBS
in the extra 20 x 20 pixel box. Make sure you save it as 256 colours.

(c) Persuade BBS sysops to send out lat/long with a 'B' rather than a
'-' as the first character after the 'E' or 'W' in the longitude.

If the BBSs are sending locators, you can still get a BBS symbol if you
make yourself a BBS BMP, and put multiple copies of it in the
UI-VIEW&#92;SYMBOLS directory, each named according to the name of a BBS
that you hear transmitting a locator. E.g. GB7AAA.BMP, GB7BBB.BMP, etc.

73 - Roger.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK

Hi All,
One or two suggestions for the next release of ui-view, how
about a 5th station symbol to denote bbs's? On a map that gets as
crowded as mine can do on occasion it makes them a lot easier to pick
out.
The other thing that comes to mind at the moment, would it be possible
to arrange for an expire time of zero to mean that stations will never
be removed from the map?

Congratulations on another excellent piece of software Roger, I'm
still trying to work out what the bugs are that you spoke about in
v0.7b, as far as I can tell it works 100%, in BPQ host mode at least!

73's de Mark M1DKS

Roger, tracker is now appearing on the map with ver 0.7.

Anyone interested in adding their own maps to UI-View, in this months PC
Advisor (MAY99) if you take out a years subscription to the mag. they are
giving away a free gift and one of the choices is the Attica Ordnance Survey
Interactive Atlas of Great Britain version 3.
Anyone know if it has Ipswich Street Plan on it please? (I've got ver 2)
Cheers Chris
chris@...