Re: Piats and Panzerfausts and Bazookas

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It would have been handy if you could call a truce, so that you could stand up to cock the spring.?

Best Regards

Mike Leese

(N. Wales)

On 27 Jul 2020, at 14:49, Michael Reese <mrtank688@...> wrote:

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And the gunner has to lay on his back completely vulnerable as he tries to cock the bloody thing. Strong spring.

Mike Reese?

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Re: Piats and Panzerfausts and Bazookas

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Easter..? pretty sure Rich was mulling over ideas for ‘In the Buff’ in between glasses on Saturday night.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Holmes via groups.io
Sent: 27 July 2020 15:02
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Ah, okay. Haven't played IABSM in a while. Hanging on for In The Buff.

I mean "O" Group.?

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I'll get my coat.

Kind regards
Andrew Holmes

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On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 14:42, Dan

<dan.albrecht.vt@...> wrote:

Thanks, Andrew.? Makes sense

I'm referring to IABSM, not CofC.

Re: Piats and Panzerfausts and Bazookas

#200447

Ah, okay. Haven't played IABSM in a while. Hanging on for In The Buff.

I mean "O" Group.?

I'll get my coat.

Kind regards
Andrew Holmes

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On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 14:42, Dan
<dan.albrecht.vt@...> wrote:

Thanks, Andrew.? Makes sense

I'm referring to IABSM, not CofC.

Re: Piats and Panzerfausts and Bazookas

#200446

And the gunner has to lay on his back completely vulnerable as he tries to cock the bloody thing. Strong spring.

Mike Reese?

Re: Table sizes for scenarios in Anzio and Sicily scenario books

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Thanks, Mike Leese.

Your idead?is great for "shrinking down".

Tim Whitworth uses a standard of 9 x 6 so to "scale up" from a standard early IABSM 5x6 scenario, he essentially boosts all measurements by 50%, per his post on FB.

Not a problem. On the large table we measure everything in Lards. One Lard is 1.5”.
We make wooden range sticks of 18 Lards in length (27”) to assist us with measurement

Re: Piats and Panzerfausts and Bazookas

#200444

Thanks, Andrew.? Makes sense

I'm referring to IABSM, not CofC.

Re: Piats and Panzerfausts and Bazookas

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Thanks, James. yes, I think that's what I meant.? i.e. it didn't recock.

Re: Piats and Panzerfausts and Bazookas

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I don't know why anyone would suggest that, I've never heard of a PIAT breaking from being fired.

Possibly they meant the spring didn't automatically recock when it was fired (a common occurence if the firer didn't handle it properly), after which it would need recocking by hand. I'd probably cost that as an action, so effectively making reloading take twice as long.

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On Monday, 27 July 2020, 01:19:54 BST, Dan <dan.albrecht.vt@...> wrote:

I read on a search of this forum that if a shot rolls more "1s" than "6s" than the PIAT spring malfunctions and it can't be reloaded.

Re: Piats and Panzerfausts and Bazookas

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All except 'fausts have three rounds. After that they must return to a JoP to look for a re-supply.

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Andrew HOLMES

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On Monday, 27 July 2020, 01:19:54 BST, Dan <dan.albrecht.vt@...> wrote: 

Getting ready to play some Anzio scenarios

PIAT teams are fairly common.? 
How many total rounds would each team be carrying around??
I read on a search of this forum that if a shot rolls more "1s" than "6s" than the PIAT spring malfunctions and it can't be reloaded.

Bazooka teams
How many total rounds?

Panzerschreks
How many total rounds available?

Panzerfausts
These are 1-shot and done, right?

Piats and Panzerfausts and Bazookas

#200440

Getting ready to play some Anzio scenarios

PIAT teams are fairly common.?
How many total rounds would each team be carrying around??
I read on a search of this forum that if a shot rolls more "1s" than "6s" than the PIAT spring malfunctions and it can't be reloaded.

Bazooka teams
How many total rounds?

Panzerschreks
How many total rounds available?

Panzerfausts
These are 1-shot and done, right?

Re: Table sizes for scenarios in Anzio and Sicily scenario books

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The alternative where your table is too small is to look at measurement.?

For a simple example.?

If you need a 9 x 6 table but space dictates a 6 x 4 cut all measurements by a third but remember the d6 die roll for distance needs to be cut by a third.?

Also smaller troops frontages need to be reduced otherwise the table becomes too crowded.?

Unless you have a 20x20 garage (internal space seems to have reduced)

I’ve settled for an 8x5 because battles just take too long.?

If necessary I have 1ft. Off cuts to increase the with and a 2ft addition for the length. ?Old kitchen cabinets make a good base.?

Best Regards

Mike Leese

(N. Wales)

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On 27 Jul 2020, at 00:01, Dan <dan.albrecht.vt@...> wrote:

?Here is the response I got on Facebook from Robert Avery himself who wrote those two scenario books:

That's my bad, I'm afraid...or my good, dependent on how you look at it. When I first started writing the scenario books, I was well aware that people only have access to certain sized tables, so I never specified the size, just provided a non-specific-size map and suggested that people make their table look approx. like it. After all, most of the scenarios are pretty tolerant of that, and flexibility is a key tenet of Lard philosophy. After some pressure from consumers such as yourself, however, my later books all have the table sizes specified. So apologies, but assume they are all 6x5!

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Mike Leese

Re: Table sizes for scenarios in Anzio and Sicily scenario books

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Here is the response I got on Facebook from Robert Avery himself who wrote those two scenario books:

That's my bad, I'm afraid...or my good, dependent on how you look at it. When I first started writing the scenario books, I was well aware that people only have access to certain sized tables, so I never specified the size, just provided a non-specific-size map and suggested that people make their table look approx. like it. After all, most of the scenarios are pretty tolerant of that, and flexibility is a key tenet of Lard philosophy. After some pressure from consumers such as yourself, however, my later books all have the table sizes specified. So apologies, but assume they are all 6x5!

Re: Table sizes for scenarios in Anzio and Sicily scenario books

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There have to be some rules

ie. if you are playing a scenario from a TFL book then the table is set from the map scale

If you are playing a scenario using an ordnance survey map of the area surrounding Gwyrch Castle on a 1” : mile ordnance map from 1950 and you are playing an 1805 Sharp Practice rules then the game wil be in more than one part.?

Landing ground on the beach and a village.?

Secure the town (Abergele) and assault the gate house.?

Take the manor (Keep) in the castle grounds.?

The map will give the table size.?

I think the ground. Scale for SP2 is 1/280th or there about.?

Forces 1 Coy Royal Welsh Fusiliers.?

Militia from Rhuddlan and Conwy.?

Militia cavalry

French regulars

Coy Grenadiers

Coy. Light infantry

Marines

Bty light artillery?

The main thing is to keep the map in more or less proportion and balance the time of arrival of forces on either side.?

You could assign a points value to the troops you want to assault with.?

Defenders do the same.?

Count the points value of the remaining force divide by 2. subtract total From the initial force cost and this will be the cost of the battle.

The more troops you use the higher the cost.?

Best Regards

Mike Leese

(N. Wales)

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On 26 Jul 2020, at 15:59, Angelo Dalessandro via groups.io <ang.dalessandro@...> wrote:

? I think it’s assumed that the table sizes are based around “regulation” size tables that are 4x6 ft then adjust from there?

On Sunday, July 26, 2020, 8:37 AM, Dan <dan.albrecht.vt@...> wrote:

Thanks.? I appreciate the need to be flexible and play with what you have.? But as I posted on Facebook in a comment addresses to someone else..

ok, I get it ..."play the period, not the rules" but that means any sense of standardization is gone. it means that if you play 9x6 and another plays 4x6...then with your table it can, for example, mean that a) it takes 50% longer in terms of turns for?a unit entering on one side of the board to reach an objective off the board or b) firing distances between units are 50% longer, c) the list goes on. Now if the game has no Victory Conditions or no Turn considerations and it is just a scrimmage..........but if one buys the scenario books like I do, one expects, reasonably so, for those critical details like the size of the table to be somewhat fixed like they are in Operation Compass, WTHHYBB and All-American....

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Mike Leese

Re: Table sizes for scenarios in Anzio and Sicily scenario books

#200436

I think it’s assumed that the table sizes are based around “regulation” size tables that are 4x6 ft then adjust from there?

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On Sunday, July 26, 2020, 8:37 AM, Dan <dan.albrecht.vt@...> wrote:

Thanks.? I appreciate the need to be flexible and play with what you have.? But as I posted on Facebook in a comment addresses to someone else..

ok, I get it ..."play the period, not the rules" but that means any sense of standardization is gone. it means that if you play 9x6 and another plays 4x6...then with your table it can, for example, mean that a) it takes 50% longer in terms of turns for?a unit entering on one side of the board to reach an objective off the board or b) firing distances between units are 50% longer, c) the list goes on. Now if the game has no Victory Conditions or no Turn considerations and it is just a scrimmage..........but if one buys the scenario books like I do, one expects, reasonably so, for those critical details like the size of the table to be somewhat fixed like they are in Operation Compass, WTHHYBB and All-American....

Re: Table sizes for scenarios in Anzio and Sicily scenario books

#200435

Thanks.? I appreciate the need to be flexible and play with what you have.? But as I posted on Facebook in a comment addresses to someone else..

ok, I get it ..."play the period, not the rules" but that means any sense of standardization is gone. it means that if you play 9x6 and another plays 4x6...then with your table it can, for example, mean that a) it takes 50% longer in terms of turns for?a unit entering on one side of the board to reach an objective off the board or b) firing distances between units are 50% longer, c) the list goes on. Now if the game has no Victory Conditions or no Turn considerations and it is just a scrimmage..........but if one buys the scenario books like I do, one expects, reasonably so, for those critical details like the size of the table to be somewhat fixed like they are in Operation Compass, WTHHYBB and All-American....

Re: Table sizes for scenarios in Anzio and Sicily scenario books

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I play almost all my games on two 30x60 inch tables long-sides together, regardless of what’s called for.? Those are the tables I have, I play ‘em.? Just like I won’t play a points-based game, it’s always what I have on hand that gets put on the table.

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From: Dan
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 8:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TooFatLardies] Table sizes for scenarios in Anzio and Sicily scenario books

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Hi folks: What map table sizes have you used for any scenarios from the Anzio or Sicily scenario books? Both books are silent on the issue. All the maps in the book measure about 16 cm. wide x 21 cm. long which if scaled equals about 4 ft. wide x 5.3. ft. wide.

What do you recommend for Anzio or Sicily scenarios.?

FWIW, both the Where the Hell Have You Been, Boys? and All-American scenario books detail the exact size of the maps to be used and also include 1 ft. square grids with those scenarios having 5x6 (especially WTHHYB) while All-American has a variety, 4x6, 6x6, 6x8)

Thanks!

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Table sizes for scenarios in Anzio and Sicily scenario books

#200433

Hi folks: What map table sizes have you used for any scenarios from the Anzio or Sicily scenario books? Both books are silent on the issue. All the maps in the book measure about 16 cm. wide x 21 cm. long which if scaled equals about 4 ft. wide x 5.3. ft. wide.

What do you recommend for Anzio or Sicily scenarios.?

FWIW, both the Where the Hell Have You Been, Boys? and All-American scenario books detail the exact size of the maps to be used and also include 1 ft. square grids with those scenarios having 5x6 (especially WTHHYB) while All-American has a variety, 4x6, 6x6, 6x8)

Thanks!

Re: Anzio IABSM book, question, Scenario #14

#200432

Thanks. I did find Google Earth and I got a pretty good ideas of general location but the problem is that now the once tiny village of Carrocetto has grown considerably.

Re: IABSM to Infamy

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I too bought Infamy to support TFL, but I’m cramming to get a TCHAE game of the whole of Antietam played on 17 Sep.

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From: mick.scales@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 4:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] IABSM to Infamy

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I bought Infamy to support the Lardie cause but I'm immersed in IABSM at the moment and musing on getting into Sharpe in the Peninsula with SP2

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Mick

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard Danziger <rdanziger85@...>
Sent: 21 July 2020 17:28
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I've not bought?Infamy (working on Japanese to use with Dux), but my first set were printed out Sharp Practice 1. I often take out my books just to page through as they look so good. And also to pine over as I have no time for games but that's a different story!

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Re: IABSM to Infamy

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I'm busily painting forces for Infamy, unlike everyone else it would seem,? but that doesn't stop me also working on 1745 for SP2, and forces for Chain of Command. Real wargames butterfly I'm afraid,

Doug

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of mick.scales@... <mick.scales@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 9:40:41 PM
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I bought Infamy to support the Lardie cause but I'm immersed in IABSM at the moment and musing on getting into Sharpe in the Peninsula with SP2

Mick

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard Danziger <rdanziger85@...>
Sent: 21 July 2020 17:28
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] IABSM to Infamy

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I've not bought?Infamy (working on Japanese to use with Dux), but my first set were printed out Sharp Practice 1. I often take out my books just to page through as they look so good. And also to pine over as I have no time for games but that's a different story!

Richard