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Re: Consciousness of Non-local - and One

 

Joel Goldsmith said it best in his Infinite Way writings of the fifties and
sixties when he said "Consciounsess is What I AM". As Consciousness - or as
Seth says - Awarized Energy - it's easier to imagine how we can all be part
of the same River of Consciousness - which individualizes as us.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Diana Gentrup" <dianagentrup@...>
To: <jd33j@...>; <abraham-hicks@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Buddha and others are also part of Abe?




Jon perhaps you were out the day the sign-up sheet was sent around
ha! ha! just kiddin'
In a nutshell: (I always think of Austin Powers when I say that and want
to
follow with "this is me in a nut shell...acting that out) Ok, so I
digress,
that happens when I think of Austin Powers.
Abe says we are all made up of physical and non-physical energy
(non-physical=IB). The "group" is made up of non-physical energy ergo, our
non-physical becomes part of the collective when we are amongst the group.
Abe "reads" the vibration of our non-physical and selects who will sit in
the hot seat so that the physical being then voices the question.

Anyone else?
Peace and Love to all physical and non-physical,
Diana

From: jd <jd33j@...>
To: abraham-hicks@...
CC: abraham-hicks@...
Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Buddha and others are also part of Abe?
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:54:22 -0800 (PST)


Abraham has said that YOU and I are also in this group of non-physical
friends at various sittings. em
///////////////////////////////////////////

Whoaaaaa, Em! Em! I'm part of this the group? Where did Abe say that?

I don't remember signing up... Anyway, if I'm part of Abe then I should
be
getting paid royalties for my part of the tape, book and seminar
income!!!
:o)

Just joshing, but I am curious how I can be part of it if I'm not dead
yet like Norman Vincent Peale......

Jon


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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] For Wayne Re Changing the Past

 

Hi Group - I like this stream of thought a lot - and the freedom it gives
us. It's very much in sinc with the idea of "future selves" interacting
with "past selves" in the co-creation of our lives. Havn't you ever had the
feeling of a "future self" guiding you ? I did. Often. When I was in
the Amazon, in the Peace Corps - and had no idea of where to go afterwards -
or what to do - I had the distinct feeling of a "future San Francisco self"
appearing to me and telling me to go to the Bay Area - which I did. I also
sometimes feel as if I'm accessing or sharing experiences with my "teen-age
self "- and "little boy" self. The Oversoul Seven book is a great example
of this as you said. I have my kids reading in class.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Meixsell" <liveallowcreate@...>
To: "Abe Group Post" <abraham-hicks@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:03 AM
Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] For Wayne Re Changing the Past



Dear Wayne,
I believe it would be said that there are multiple reality streams and
that past, present and future are connected in the way in which you inquire
and certainly are changed about within that reality stream. If you are
anticipating the reversal of OUR agreed upon reality stream, such as a sci
fi concept of going back to Sep 10th, before WTC, even for it to happen, I
think physics would dictate that a certain percentage of creators would have
to be in alignment and there are so many wanting to be on another path with
regard to this that a change on this specific issue, for example, is
unlikely. But in another reality, in this NOW, the WTC, for example, did
not even happen and the world is at peace (Whirled Peas). Yet in another
reality, the decendents of their steam of thinking could be "living" worse
terrorist aftermath, like nuclear, for example. Same for other topics as
per agreement. You can "pop" out of any place (what physicists Fred Wolf
calls interdimentional atom shifting) and choose to exist in the way you
want.
In one of the Oversoul 7 novel trilogy, I think it was the 1st, The
Education of Oversoul 7, where O-7 has manifested 4 (I think) expressions,
one is maybe in our approximate present, one is a bit in the past and one is
in the future where the main population lives off-earth connected by some
cable elevator (I can't remember the exact names) to the outer atmosphere.
This is sketchy but the idea is essentially accurate. Anyway, they all live
in the same physical place, just different times (and of course, really in
the NOW). In the past, I think, there is a palace or a hacienda or temple
or something, with a grand tile floor when one day someone in that timeline
drops something heavy and a corner of one of the tiles is broken. Then
Proteus, a future expression, comes down to these ruins he comes and goes
from (and they are the crossroads of the temple--or whatever it was--where
the sky elevator boards/unloads) and he has been there many times before.
And--now this is after the past expression has dropped something on the
floor and broken the tile--as Proteus is walking and reflecting upon
something, he is looking at the floor tiles of the ruins as he goes and he
notices a crack in the tile that he didn't think he had ever seen before.
There, that simple, the idea introduced that changing the past is a
function of the now but the expressions involved I think have to be in the
same reality stream. There are similar stories in novel form in Mr.
Johathan Livingston Seagull's (yes, Richard Bach's) A Bridge Across Forever
and One. I think those are the two he wrote with this topic's info and
intent.
On one of Carolyn's lecture tapes, in a story she tells from a personal
experience, I think she places herself in a riot where there is danger and
burning an beating on and overturning of cars. And she is in a car driving
right into the mix, thinking "What am I doing here, etc". I can't remember
if her car was actually being attacked but it was something like that and
she went into the "Oh, no" mode and drew more of same to her. But then she
thought something like, "yes, indeed, what AM I doing" and chose to
visualize safety and security and at that moment changed her vibration so
much (I anticipated that she'd just have transported herself to a new
location, but no), she proceeded to drive right down the middle of the
street and none of the rioters touched her car or even looked at her
car--indeed, their vibration was so different that they did not even see
her. She did not exist in their reality. Now, I think before she changed
her vibration, something had started happening to her car but when she was
thru it all, she and her car were perfect so there is a case of "changing
the past" so to speak altho it was, relatively speaking, in the rather
instant now.
This is what came to mind when I read your email. Does this address your
question at all? Others may have a different take or other stories to add.
enJoy...carol

waynec01@... wrote: Thanks to the person who gave me the correct
spelling. It is
Caroline Myss being spoken about below.

Now can someone tell me which book/cassette she speaks about changing
something that has occurred in the past by creating a new story about
it. This was stated from the previous message quoted below.

While we're sort of on the subject of changing the past, does Abraham
have anything to say about this. I have several Seth books but have
not read them. But I have read several books by Lynda Madden Dahl,
which are about Seth's teachings. In her book, "Ten Thousand
Whispers: A Guide to Conscious Creation", the last chapter titled
"Time Sculpting" sounds like they are saying it can be done. I have
looked up her references to the Seth books and she is telling it as
it was said by Seth. In some parts of the chapter, she is just
talking about changing ones feelings about the past, but in other
parts it sounds like the past can be changed from the spacious
present.

All opinions and thoughts welcome,
Wayne.



--- In Abraham-Hicks@y..., Eaglemere@a... wrote:
Re: Question: you were sure you were going to get something then...

So, when I saw my own story in yours, it made me wonder...about
vibration, which exists outside of time. Do we create "outside" of
time. Abraham speaks of this as true: we can create "instantly" or
take some amount of time. Can that time be past as well as future?
Carolyn Mace (that's the pronunciation--I forget her spelling) speaks
of how we can "go back" and change something that has ocurred in the
past by creating a new story about it now.



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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Buddha and others are also part of Abe?

Diana Gentrup
 

Jon perhaps you were out the day the sign-up sheet was sent around
ha! ha! just kiddin'
In a nutshell: (I always think of Austin Powers when I say that and want to follow with "this is me in a nut shell...acting that out) Ok, so I digress, that happens when I think of Austin Powers.
Abe says we are all made up of physical and non-physical energy (non-physical=IB). The "group" is made up of non-physical energy ergo, our non-physical becomes part of the collective when we are amongst the group. Abe "reads" the vibration of our non-physical and selects who will sit in the hot seat so that the physical being then voices the question.

Anyone else?
Peace and Love to all physical and non-physical,
Diana

From: jd <jd33j@...>
To: abraham-hicks@...
CC: abraham-hicks@...
Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Buddha and others are also part of Abe?
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:54:22 -0800 (PST)


Abraham has said that YOU and I are also in this group of non-physical
friends at various sittings. em
///////////////////////////////////////////

Whoaaaaa, Em! Em! I'm part of this the group? Where did Abe say that?

I don't remember signing up... Anyway, if I'm part of Abe then I should be
getting paid royalties for my part of the tape, book and seminar income!!!
:o)

Just joshing, but I am curious how I can be part of it if I'm not dead
yet like Norman Vincent Peale......

Jon


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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Buddha and others are also part of Abe?

jd
 

Abraham has said that YOU and I are also in this group of non-physical
friends at various sittings. em
///////////////////////////////////////////

Whoaaaaa, Em! Em! I'm part of this the group? Where did Abe say that?

I don't remember signing up... Anyway, if I'm part of Abe then I should be
getting paid royalties for my part of the tape, book and seminar income!!!
:o)

Just joshing, but I am curious how I can be part of it if I'm not dead
yet like Norman Vincent Peale......

Jon


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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Caroline Myss and changing the past

 

Hi Group -

This process you just mentioned is really helpful - one that I'm using
today - as a matter of fact . . . (thanks Carol ) . . . It also reminds me
of the process Neville calls "Revisioning" - which he recommends for
cleaning up the past. He says - to go back to those events - and revise
them to your liking. Re-imagine them the way you would have liked them to
have turned out ! ( Now - why didn't I think of that ? ) Good Idea !
Actually he suggests we do it on a daily basis - going through our day - and
redoing any event that wasn't quite up to par - reliving it - as if it had
turned out perfectly. He says that the emotional charge created by that
mental action - then - sends a positive vibe out - to create a future - much
more in sinc with where we want to be !

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ulrike Haupt" <rica@...>
To: <Abraham-Hicks@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1993 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Caroline Myss and changing the past


Hi Wayne and others

Denise Lynn in her book 'Past Lives, Present Dreams' proposes to 'CHANGE
IT"
on page 125.
I quote: "I find the most powerful technique to resolve an uncomfortable
past life memory is to change the circumstances of your past life until it
feels comfortable or enjoyable. I believe that you can actually change the
past; but if this is too much for you to accept, then imagine that you are
changing the images that are stirred in your brain. As you change those
stored images in your brain, imagine you are changing the associated
limiting beliefs."

Even if we accept that all 'lives' are NOW, this could be a powerful way
to
'change' the past. And the present and the future, too. :)

This would also apply to 'past' experiences in this life. In this context
I'm reminded of an Abe quote "Nothing has any meaning except the meaning
we
give it." If we can pivot from perceiving/remembering an experience as
undesirable to something along the line of, "This experience was the best
that could have happened to me." this would give us so much freedom from
pains and hurts and judgements.

A technique to use could be the Abe process of Scripting. Instead of
writing
a script about a future we would like to experience we could write a
script
about a past we would like to have experienced.

Whatever I do it will always be something to assist me to find and follow
my
bliss. <smile> And it is never to late to have a blissfull childhood.

Warmest

Ulrike

----- Original Message -----
From: <waynec01@...>
To: <Abraham-Hicks@...>
Sent: 17 November 2001 08:45
Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] Caroline Myss and changing the past


Thanks to the person who gave me the correct spelling. It is
Caroline Myss being spoken about below.

Now can someone tell me which book/cassette she speaks about changing
something that has occurred in the past by creating a new story about
it. This was stated from the previous message quoted below.

While we're sort of on the subject of changing the past, does Abraham
have anything to say about this. I have several Seth books but have
not read them. But I have read several books by Lynda Madden Dahl,
which are about Seth's teachings. In her book, "Ten Thousand
Whispers: A Guide to Conscious Creation", the last chapter titled
"Time Sculpting" sounds like they are saying it can be done. I have
looked up her references to the Seth books and she is telling it as
it was said by Seth. In some parts of the chapter, she is just
talking about changing ones feelings about the past, but in other
parts it sounds like the past can be changed from the spacious
present.

All opinions and thoughts welcome,
Wayne.



--- In Abraham-Hicks@y..., Eaglemere@a... wrote:
Re: Question: you were sure you were going to get something then...

So, when I saw my own story in yours, it made me wonder...about
vibration, which exists outside of time. Do we create "outside" of
time. Abraham speaks of this as true: we can create "instantly" or
take some amount of time. Can that time be past as well as future?
Carolyn Mace (that's the pronunciation--I forget her spelling) speaks
of how we can "go back" and change something that has ocurred in the
past by creating a new story about it now.



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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Buddha and others are also part of Abe?

 

I dunno, Jon, if Abraham is getting royalties. Where would the check be
cashed? Probably doesn't even have a social security number...

I don't recall where or when I heard this (I've been listening for a number
of years), but it was in reference to a question of "Who are you?" Abraham's
typical response of "a group of nonphysical friends" is generalized, but I
have heard mention of some of the historical personalities being "present"
with the group. But you don't have to be "dead" to participate in the group.
Death does not exist. We are physical extensions of an eternal beingness.

So, any one of us can join the group of nonphysicals. Why not? Are we not
nonphysical? Why would "I" not join in answering my own question? Or yours?
(I'm actually doing it as I speak.) Have you never asked "yourself" a
question, and received a clear answer? The universe is a very fluid place --
anything can (and probably does) happen. If you can think it, you can do it.

Helpful? em

In a message dated 11/17/01 5:55:01 PM, jd33j@... writes:

<< > Abraham has said that YOU and I are also in this group of non-physical
friends at various sittings. em
///////////////////////////////////////////

Whoaaaaa, Em! Em! I'm part of this the group? Where did Abe say that?

I don't remember signing up... Anyway, if I'm part of Abe then I should be
getting paid royalties for my part of the tape, book and seminar income!!!
:o)

Just joshing, but I am curious how I can be part of it if I'm not dead
yet like Norman Vincent Peale......

Jon >>


Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Caroline Myss and changing the past

maija ruman
 

And exactly WHY would anyone want to change the past?
1. Because the present sucks? Remember that the present is infinitely malleable.
2. Because with a different past to remeber, it might be easier to be happy? You're happy or unhappy in the moment. Being happy in the past won't guarantee future happiness.
3. Because it's easier to build upon memories of past successes? Maybe. I'll let that one stand.
I can't think of any more reasons to hold on to what's gone, done with, chewed up and digested. LOve, Maija

waynec01@... wrote: While we're sort of on the subject of changing the past, does Abraham
have anything to say about this. . . . "Time Sculpting" sounds like they are saying it can be done. . . In some parts of the chapter, she is just
talking about changing ones feelings about the past, but in other
parts it sounds like the past can be changed from the spacious
present.

All opinions and thoughts welcome,
Wayne.



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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Re: creating past events with present vibrations

 

Kathleen, I don't think that "I never know the outcome". I will when it comes
out. It is the thrill of participating in HOW it comes out, each miraculous
step of the way -- like a baseball game -- "it ain't over til it's over" --
and then there's the next game. So NOW is the place, because what I do now
changes the next step. If I hit a home run, or make an out, its effects the
outcoming of the game. If I stike out this at bat, I can homer the next time
up, or make a spectular game-saving play at any point. So, now is all there
is, in a never-ending series of nows.

I create freedom, joy and growth now, not in my future, always in my now.
em

In a message dated 11/16/01 8:53:05 PM, tomkat00@... writes:

<< So since I never know the outcome, more reason to make sure I choose in
this NOW moment what thought to reach for...what feeling to reach for...NOW
is what I have, all I have and all that matters. As I choose
clearly,vibrate purely and positively in my NOW, the result I create is
freedom, joy and growth in my future. I am finding that all this really
takes is paying close, very close, attention to myself!
Kathleen >>


Re Diana's post on chaos theory

Carol Meixsell
 

Dear group,
Can anyone give more info re what I wrote to Diana below? I would appreciate muchly.
enJoy...carol
Carol Meixsell <liveallowcreate@...> wrote:
Hi Diana,
What you said (below) brought to mind something that I think was in the area of explaining why the reactions take place. I'm wanting to remember exactly but am not so I will say that I think it has something to do with "neutron pairs". Something about the spin being one way or the other and that a pair (see, this is what I can't remember) either must both spin the same way or each must spin the opposite way. Anyhow, whichever it is, it is said that when you separate them, even to move them on opposite sides of the earth, if you then change the rotation of one, the other changes to the correct rotation. So there is the connectedness regardless of the distance. The theoretical physicists believe that the same would hold true if the two were on earth and Jupiter or earth and Andromeda or one place and anyplace else. So interesting to me...
hearts...carol
Diana Gentrup <dianagentrup@...> wrote:

(...snip...) I find Abe is beneficial and compatible with many theories we have studied and
particularly the chaos theory which basically states that every action
causes a reaction in the universe (though we may not know it or see the
result...but it is there).



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For Wayne Re Changing the Past

Carol Meixsell
 

Dear Wayne,
I believe it would be said that there are multiple reality streams and that past, present and future are connected in the way in which you inquire and certainly are changed about within that reality stream. If you are anticipating the reversal of OUR agreed upon reality stream, such as a sci fi concept of going back to Sep 10th, before WTC, even for it to happen, I think physics would dictate that a certain percentage of creators would have to be in alignment and there are so many wanting to be on another path with regard to this that a change on this specific issue, for example, is unlikely. But in another reality, in this NOW, the WTC, for example, did not even happen and the world is at peace (Whirled Peas). Yet in another reality, the decendents of their steam of thinking could be "living" worse terrorist aftermath, like nuclear, for example. Same for other topics as per agreement. You can "pop" out of any place (what physicists Fred Wolf calls interdimentional atom shifting) and choose to exist in the way you want.
In one of the Oversoul 7 novel trilogy, I think it was the 1st, The Education of Oversoul 7, where O-7 has manifested 4 (I think) expressions, one is maybe in our approximate present, one is a bit in the past and one is in the future where the main population lives off-earth connected by some cable elevator (I can't remember the exact names) to the outer atmosphere. This is sketchy but the idea is essentially accurate. Anyway, they all live in the same physical place, just different times (and of course, really in the NOW). In the past, I think, there is a palace or a hacienda or temple or something, with a grand tile floor when one day someone in that timeline drops something heavy and a corner of one of the tiles is broken. Then Proteus, a future expression, comes down to these ruins he comes and goes from (and they are the crossroads of the temple--or whatever it was--where the sky elevator boards/unloads) and he has been there many times before. And--now this is after the past expression has dropped something on the floor and broken the tile--as Proteus is walking and reflecting upon something, he is looking at the floor tiles of the ruins as he goes and he notices a crack in the tile that he didn't think he had ever seen before.
There, that simple, the idea introduced that changing the past is a function of the now but the expressions involved I think have to be in the same reality stream. There are similar stories in novel form in Mr. Johathan Livingston Seagull's (yes, Richard Bach's) A Bridge Across Forever and One. I think those are the two he wrote with this topic's info and intent.
On one of Carolyn's lecture tapes, in a story she tells from a personal experience, I think she places herself in a riot where there is danger and burning an beating on and overturning of cars. And she is in a car driving right into the mix, thinking "What am I doing here, etc". I can't remember if her car was actually being attacked but it was something like that and she went into the "Oh, no" mode and drew more of same to her. But then she thought something like, "yes, indeed, what AM I doing" and chose to visualize safety and security and at that moment changed her vibration so much (I anticipated that she'd just have transported herself to a new location, but no), she proceeded to drive right down the middle of the street and none of the rioters touched her car or even looked at her car--indeed, their vibration was so different that they did not even see her. She did not exist in their reality. Now, I think before she changed her vibration, something had started happening to her car but when she was thru it all, she and her car were perfect so there is a case of "changing the past" so to speak altho it was, relatively speaking, in the rather instant now.
This is what came to mind when I read your email. Does this address your question at all? Others may have a different take or other stories to add.
enJoy...carol

waynec01@... wrote: Thanks to the person who gave me the correct spelling. It is
Caroline Myss being spoken about below.

Now can someone tell me which book/cassette she speaks about changing
something that has occurred in the past by creating a new story about
it. This was stated from the previous message quoted below.

While we're sort of on the subject of changing the past, does Abraham
have anything to say about this. I have several Seth books but have
not read them. But I have read several books by Lynda Madden Dahl,
which are about Seth's teachings. In her book, "Ten Thousand
Whispers: A Guide to Conscious Creation", the last chapter titled
"Time Sculpting" sounds like they are saying it can be done. I have
looked up her references to the Seth books and she is telling it as
it was said by Seth. In some parts of the chapter, she is just
talking about changing ones feelings about the past, but in other
parts it sounds like the past can be changed from the spacious
present.

All opinions and thoughts welcome,
Wayne.

--- In Abraham-Hicks@y..., Eaglemere@a... wrote:
Re: Question: you were sure you were going to get something then...

So, when I saw my own story in yours, it made me wonder...about
vibration, which exists outside of time. Do we create "outside" of
time. Abraham speaks of this as true: we can create "instantly" or
take some amount of time. Can that time be past as well as future?
Carolyn Mace (that's the pronunciation--I forget her spelling) speaks
of how we can "go back" and change something that has ocurred in the
past by creating a new story about it now.



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Changing the parst

 

"Whirled peas" spounds really good,lets all spin<><><<><><>Steve


Re: [Abraham-Hicks] what is trust?Carol

 

does that mean that maybe once I have realized the desire I don't have to
force myself to think of it,vizualize it but allow the feeling of knowing
,trusting,the warm likableness of Unis giving,which I do feel frequently
,the friendliness of the whole system and so forth to stay around worry
free?Yes I feel I may have got my own answer there. Thank you and may you
inherit many camels and the ability to feed them all(if you want)>><<><><><><
Steve


Re: [Abraham-Hicks] DS9 for "em" and Fred

maija ruman
 

But we DO KNOW the outcome! We wrote the script! We just don't know the way it will all come about. LOve, Maija

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Eaglemere@... wrote:< Fred, in that same scene from DS9, Sisco also explains to the prophets about linear time using a baseball game as an expample -- how we don't know the outcome (ala Yogi Berra), and that is how we en-joy the experience, pitch by pitch>



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DS9 for "em" and Fred

Carol Meixsell
 

Dear em and Fred,
I'm biased because I'm a trekker but I've always thought DS9 was fabu even tho some serious trekkers thought it not the best of Trek. em, I remembered the baseball example only after you told it. Thank you for the reminder. And Fred, I have used the very scene of which you spoke and I also remember the Profits saying (when Sisko was in denial), "Yes, you DO this now but (as they show him the rubble-and-debris-death of his wife) YOU LIVE HERE. Do you remember that line? Thank you for the reminders, you two!
enJoy...carol
Eaglemere@... wrote: Fred, in that same scene from DS9, Sisco also explains to the prophets about linear time using a baseball game as an expample -- how we don't know the outcome (ala Yogi Berra), and that is how we en-joy the experience, pitch by pitch. I thought this a wonderful description of why we all chose to play in the time/space playground.

That pilot movie turned me on to watch the show, which until I saw it, I thought DS9 was a shoot-em-up-in-space show. It had some magnificent episodes, like "The Writer" (I think it was entitled). em

In a message dated Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:00:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, CTavery207@... writes:

This reminds me of the Star Trek Deep Space Nine episode where Sisco goes
into the prophets' worm hole and is trying to tell the prophets that humans
are linear through time. The prophets are saying all of time: past, present,
future are simultaneous. He says not true. And then he suddenly is
confronted with the question from the prophets "then why are you still at the
moment of your wife's death if you are linear in time?"

We might not be able to change the events that occurred but we are able to
change our beliefs about those events. How we respond to them in the here
and now is our choosing. If we choose to believe something and feel bad
about that event in our past, won't that lock us into that event and keep the
flow of the energy from flowing? Have you ever met someone who is positive
and upbeat, everything good just seems to happen for that person and then you
discover the various tragic moments that they lived through? How is it that
person isn't weighed down and crushed by those tragic events? Isn't it in how
they perceive those events in the present that allows the flow of source?
Somehow, they decided to pivot their thoughts about that event and moved
forward in allowing the universe to bless them with all good gifts.

Blessings

Fred

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Neville: oops!

Brigitte Sarthou
 

I am sorry!... Here it is, and this time it's the right one, I've just
checked it.



Brigitte.


Universe yields

DA
 

I had a recent experience that I only now understand as a
manifestation of what I created. For some time I have wanted very
much to have a wonderful, intimate, respectful, trusting
relationship. I had one that started that way, but the other person
ultimately didn't want the same thing and left. I was so unhappy at
first, but finally realized that that by leaving, my ex gave me the
freedom to find the perfect loving, genuine person for me. I was so
focused on the behavior I didn't like that I almost didn't notice the
opportunity I have. Here's the amazing part - not only did the
universe clear my path, but put someone new right in front of me
immediately. Someone in whom I had a lot of interest before (but who
was unavailable at the time) called me up out of the blue within 10
minutes of being available, and other old contacts came along as
well - without "doing" anything! I was dumbfounded.

I realized that I can ask for what I want in a relationship, but
don't necessarily get to choose the person. On one tape, Abe talked
about being able to have "more love" and more (Fill in the name of
the person you want here), but you can't make a specific person do
what you want. You can only be open to more. That's a tough one for
me to swallow sometimes. The universe will find those who can best
fill your needs and desires. I had hoped that the one I had would
want the same things as me, and I believe the new one will. Maybe
nothing will ultimately happen, and I'll get another, but I think
they'll keep coming until I find the right one. This makes me love
myself more than ever.


Caroline Myss and changing the past

 

Thanks to the person who gave me the correct spelling. It is
Caroline Myss being spoken about below.

Now can someone tell me which book/cassette she speaks about changing
something that has occurred in the past by creating a new story about
it. This was stated from the previous message quoted below.

While we're sort of on the subject of changing the past, does Abraham
have anything to say about this. I have several Seth books but have
not read them. But I have read several books by Lynda Madden Dahl,
which are about Seth's teachings. In her book, "Ten Thousand
Whispers: A Guide to Conscious Creation", the last chapter titled
"Time Sculpting" sounds like they are saying it can be done. I have
looked up her references to the Seth books and she is telling it as
it was said by Seth. In some parts of the chapter, she is just
talking about changing ones feelings about the past, but in other
parts it sounds like the past can be changed from the spacious
present.

All opinions and thoughts welcome,
Wayne.

--- In Abraham-Hicks@y..., Eaglemere@a... wrote:
Re: Question: you were sure you were going to get something then...

So, when I saw my own story in yours, it made me wonder...about
vibration, which exists outside of time. Do we create "outside" of
time. Abraham speaks of this as true: we can create "instantly" or
take some amount of time. Can that time be past as well as future?
Carolyn Mace (that's the pronunciation--I forget her spelling) speaks
of how we can "go back" and change something that has ocurred in the
past by creating a new story about it now.


we are all gods

Kathy
 

Maya and I were out doing errands all afternoon and waiting for our Korean veggies at a food court. We were talking about her dreams (dancer/singer)what type/style of dance...she was "what if-ing" and happily came up with being a back up dancer for Madonna's show. That a girl..lets just start there! All this very pleasing to me as she has gone in and out of dance ever since real young. She was born with incredible arches, extension and turn out, tiny body, a true feeling for dance ...her instructor telling me that she had what it took if she could get her heart into it. I havent wanted to force it...wanted her to find it for herself. Thought she had just lost interest and let it go. But lately she has really gotten more and more into this vision.of herself. We got started on Madonna because she sings and dances when I said, "well, Madonna is " and she jumped in with "a god !...she has her own world...her own Universe...people worship her". And that led us to talk about others who have created such a world...Oprah, Martha Stewart,etc Then she says..."the celebrities are really like the gods were, (she happens to be a Greek myth freak) being eally creative and then worshipped .... but the thing that no one tells us enough, especially in school, is that they are still also just normal people ...just like you and me and anybody else, ... hey!...SO REALLY WE ARE ALL GODS..ARENT WE MOM!" I GET IT...EVERYBODY'S DREAM IS ALWAYS HERE ISNT IT! staring at me her brown eyes just laughing and sparkling with her moment of clarity!....she seemed to be very pleased about this. What a moment ...little did I know that in this ordinary day, doing an ordinary thing we would share this extraordinary moment. How refreshing when you see the light go on with a young person...you know it took me 40 years to get to that. And one(3 actually) more things while Im bragging about my kids...all week long my son has been blasting the music of Gustav Holtz ...Just cant get enough and now he's downloading lots of symphonies. Why am I surprised ...this boy who has immersed himself in Emerson and Thoreau, Einstein, DaVinci among many many other great minds Abraham too. But as a parent it is always such a joy....each discovery brand new through their eyes. .He is really feeling it and I can sense how much joy he's finding..a new adventure for him...keeps calling me to his room to hear certain instruments and transitions. So we sit and listen together to this glorious genius. I am loving it! ... My 12 year old worked on her "BLiss Project" all day...the idea we got from Thomas on this list, ( Thank You)and my 5 year old has been enchanting me with his stories of his friends..."Buckly Pon...who is a gnome in our yard and " Habby Yoyo"..he's a giant. They hang out with him all the time....Buckly has been around for about 2 years but Habby just joined us . Habby does not like to wash his feet or cut his fingernails ...he hates those things!Isnt life great!
Kathleen


Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Re: creating past events with present vibrations

kazlim
 

Maija !

I see your explanation of linear time and future as absolutely inspired ! The concept of how long it takes for a thought to manifest is a clear way to point out that all our thoughts have creative potential, whether conscious or haphazard.


I appreciate the clarity you brought to a sometimes murky concept.

Hugs,

Kazlim

'Linear time' isn't a straight line drawn between 'the now' and 'the future'. Time is the distance between the thought we toss out into the 'future', (far or near, wanted or unwanted), and how long it takes for the thought to manifest. We are pulled (straight) towards the thought by the power given to the thought. I think. LOve, Maija


Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Re: creating past events with present vibrations

Kathy
 

So since I never know the outcome, more reason to make sure I choose in
this NOW moment what thought to reach for...what feeling to reach for...NOW
is what I have, all I have and all that matters. As I choose
clearly,vibrate purely and positively in my NOW, the result I create is
freedom, joy and growth in my future. I am finding that all this really
takes is paying close, very close, attention to myself!
Kathleen

----- Original Message -----
From: <Eaglemere@...>
To: <CTavery207@...>
Cc: <abraham-hicks@...>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Re: creating past events with present
vibrations


Fred, in that same scene from DS9, Sisco also explains to the prophets
about linear time using a baseball game as an expample -- how we don't know
the outcome (ala Yogi Berra), and that is how we en-joy the experience,
pitch by pitch. I thought this a wonderful description of why we all chose
to play in the time/space playground.

That pilot movie turned me on to watch the show, which until I saw it, I
thought DS9 was a shoot-em-up-in-space show. It had some magnificent
episodes, like "The Writer" (I think it was entitled). em

In a message dated Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:00:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
CTavery207@... writes:

This reminds me of the Star Trek Deep Space Nine episode where Sisco
goes
into the prophets' worm hole and is trying to tell the prophets that
humans
are linear through time. The prophets are saying all of time: past,
present,
future are simultaneous. He says not true. And then he suddenly is
confronted with the question from the prophets "then why are you still
at the
moment of your wife's death if you are linear in time?"

We might not be able to change the events that occurred but we are able
to
change our beliefs about those events. How we respond to them in the
here
and now is our choosing. If we choose to believe something and feel bad
about that event in our past, won't that lock us into that event and
keep the
flow of the energy from flowing? Have you ever met someone who is
positive
and upbeat, everything good just seems to happen for that person and
then you
discover the various tragic moments that they lived through? How is it
that
person isn't weighed down and crushed by those tragic events? Isn't it
in how
they perceive those events in the present that allows the flow of
source?
Somehow, they decided to pivot their thoughts about that event and moved
forward in allowing the universe to bless them with all good gifts.

Blessings

Fred

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