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Re: [JDC] Need Help Pivoting!!!!
focus1
Hi Nancy,
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I also am sensitive to this issue and so have listened many times to Abe tapes on this topic. I hear them saying over and over that animals don't mind dying at all and (more recently) that they remove themselves from their bodies to be sure they don't suffer. Remember the story about Esther's favorite rooster/hen?, "Renegade" who was apparently dead, being carried off by a dog, when Jerry yelled at the dog who dropped the rooster/hen (the more I think about it, the more I think it's a hen) and Renegade jumped up and ran back to Esther's yard. Abe's comment was the Renegade "certainly wasn't going to stick around for the eating part." I believe they say that Renegade had departed to avoid the unpleasantness of being eaten, and returned when it became clear that she wasn't going to be eaten. I don't have any idea what tape(s) that was on but I loved the story and I believe I remember it correctly. I'd guess it was received as a weekly tape about 3-4 months ago but that could be way off. Thanks for the topic. Reminds me of the marvels of nature. Freedom N Joy ----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy Miller <namiller@...> To: <ABRAHAM-HICKS@...> Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 1:04 PM Subject: [JDC] Need Help Pivoting!!!! **Posted to all Joyous Deliberate Creators** |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] re: freedom and joy and making manifestations last
focus1
Hello Ilana
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Welcome back from Italy. How good that you are creating all this wonderful travel for yourself! I appreciate your insight on this post and I am moving to a much more preferred place as a result of these experiences. I really do appreciate the experiences as I have learned things that will serve me very well as a result of them I think the thoughts we are kicking around are "on the leading edge" for me and so I'll add mine of the recent week to yours. I've gotten several excellent replies to that post (Vilik, Paradise,Kim Olson, Eric, JEEWHIZ, Jane Maine and Doretta) and I greatly appreciate them. All contribute excellent ideas and I've put them in a folder where they are easily accessible. My thinking this week seems to spin off a helpful point made by Vilik, July 4th. The gist (as I got it) is that when we first learn to ride a bike, for example, we often get so excited about this new thing (that doesn't match our belief about ourself yet) that, while yelling "I DID IT; I DID IT; I DID IT" we crash (into a tree, imagine that! <<<ggg>>>). It may partly be not yet thinking of ourselves as "One who rides bike." (Otherwise why would we be SO amazed?) This really resonated with me and also fit with several other replies I received (Vilik's was simply the first and I "imprinted" on it! More <<<ggg's>>>!) In my effort to understand and practice Abraham appreciation, I had been revving myself up until it seemed almost like a miracle when I got these things. (Even though Abe says that when it seems "that big" it's less likely.) So I did a switch to "I am a person who......" and began applying it to many areas of my life, as they arise. I remember this from the Connee exercises when I did them last year and again this year, but this time, the concept "took". I clearly feel my self image changing. When I've started to feel upset this week, I've said something like, "Wait a minute, I'm a person who.....(fill in the blank with whatever pattern)." I feel an immediate calming and a sense of relief and optimism coming through in place of what would have been more fear/distrust/ whatever. Isn't all this exciting? It really does feel like leading edge. And the beauty is that it's leading edge when each of us discovers it for ourselves even if others discovered it a year ago or a century ago or next week. Freedom And Joy ----- Original Message -----
From: Ilana Goldman <ilanagoldman@...> To: Abe List <Abraham-Hicks@...> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 1999 12:04 AM Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] re: freedom and joy and making manifestations last From: Ilana Goldman <ilanagoldman@...> |
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What is Abraham's message?
David W. Gordon
Dear Abraham,
I want to Thank you for all that you have blessed me with today. I feel the flow of our love, your wisdom, and your connection to me now. I rejoice in the knowing that you have spoken the truth to me in ways that go as far as my conciousness goes; and that is to the depth and breadth of my appreciation for you. I nearly explode with delight in the knowing that with your lessons, your gifts of processes, and your way of knowing the "way it is" in this Universe. You have given to me and to my world - to all here, the JOY that is Core Energy. It is PPE expressing as all that I know it to be. This leads me to question the group and myself: What is Abraham's message? For me it is to see the Joy, experience Pure Love, and KNOW it. Just that. Period. For me that is Abraham's message - for all I know it to be. What is Abraham's core message, to you? in Life force, Love and Joy, david. |
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who are you?
Connee Chandler
Hi, friends,
David and I were just sitting here talking, and I got an AHA! about self-referencing in meeting new people. We were talking about who we identify ourselves as in conversation, and what Carolyn Myss says about draining our energy through ties to the past we refuse to sever. For example, when my husband, Cliff, made his transition, for about six months, within five minutes of conversation with someone, I would mention that my husband had died. It was a real measure of growth for me when I met someone at church, talked to them at length, and three weeks later they found out I was a relatively recent widow. I also can remember how, when I quit my "career" as a librarian and computer trainer, that for at least a year, I would tell people who asked that I "used to be..." a person with a real job! And how when I moved to Virginia, I would always slip quickly into the conversation that I had moved here from Colorado. Today, when I meet new people, I delight in telling most of them that I am a Religious Science practitioner, and within the first five minutes, am likely to be telling them about my vision of Evensong. I really like the fact that I am much more forward and up referenced than down and back now. Abe says that we are in every moment telling the Universe who we are, and it is reponding to that signal. (See lesson 13 on my Web site below for the Who Am I game, if you are interested in more info on the Abe game.) Who are you saying you are? Love and hugs, Connee -- Come visit my site: |
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Re: "This Also Passes!"
I lived alone for seven years before I had a long term relationship, and I've
lived alone for the eight years since it's ended. Know what? When you live alone, you have to get to know and like yourself REALLY well, no choice. Scary, mucky stuff comes up and demands your attention, and unless you constantly distract yourself with work or a whirl of a social life, you have to face it, because there's no one else there to take your attention away from it. In the seven year stretch before I had the relationship, I did the social life/work dance, never gave myself a moment's peace. I hated living alone, I wanted a relationship, and I pretty much put life on hold until I got one; very depressing. The relationship I attracted with that mindset was a doozy, and taught me lots of lessons, not the least of which was that I had to be completely comfortable with myself, in my own skin, before I'd venture into relationship territory again, and living alone allows me to commune with myself every day and do just that. My days are my own. :-) I cook healthy, nutritious food I love without a thought to someone else's preferences and work in a profession I love, also from home. I get up when I want to, go to sleep when I want to, care for my lovable, unconditionally loving cats every day, keep my own schedule, and putter, dream and read. When I started this second journey alone, I, too, hoped that it was something that would "pass". But now, I look at it differently. It isn't something undesirable that's going to "pass", like a disease or a cold I hope I'll get over so that I can be well again. I AM well. I have a wonderful life, and it's my job to recognize that. If a relationship should come along again at some point, that's wonderful, but not necessary. The biggest tool I used to work my way through this was journal writing. First I had to be completely honest with myself that I didn't like living alone, and not pretend that I did. Then I had to figure out why I didn't like living alone, and the most basic reason was that I just didn't like my own company, period, not to mention the societal messages we get that it's somehow "wrong" to live alone. Then I had to figure out why I didn't like myself, and begin to change the things that felt inauthentic and start living with truth and honesty. Anyway, for me it's been a process to work through the resistance, and it gets better every day. These days I fully embrace my solitude and independence. It's a wonderful way to live. :-) Kimmer |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] who are you?
green1
From: Morgan <indabalo@...> snip<< Hi, I'm Caryl from South Africa. I love Abe teachings and I teach them and===== Hi Caryl! It DOES sound great, and so does all the other stuff you wrote about yourself, ALL of it. Inspiring, as a matter of fact. Living testament that background need not be limiting. Among people like yourself, I have much inspiration for my own growth! :-)) Yes, I'm happy to meet you! -- and I met you some time ago, with your post to the Language of Light list which included your article "A Journey to Japan to Discover the Roots of Reiki" and with your "copyright police" ;-)) post on the Maryanne Williamson quote. I appreciate your sharing, I love what you write. With Love for ALL, Green |
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Re: who are you?
David L. Crooks
Abraham say not to talk about who were but talk about who you are becoming.
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Otherwise you are just mucking up your vibrations and bring that old stale stuff up. You don't need to explain anything to anyone and the U doesn't need your resume! I know I am still working on this growth experience. My wife was upset with me recently because I wasn't introducing myself to people like she was. I told that I am shy I didn't feel that introducing myself would make any difference as I would not see these people again. She has to except me for who I am. I have been reinventing myself it seems for most of my life and I know I can do it everyday with great results. Love and light! DLC -----Original Message-----
From: Connee Chandler [mailto:connee@...] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 1999 2:29 PM To: abe Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] who are you? From: Connee Chandler <connee@...> Hi, friends, David and I were just sitting here talking, and I got an AHA! about self-referencing in meeting new people. We were talking about who we identify ourselves as in conversation, and what Carolyn Myss says about draining our energy through ties to the past we refuse to sever. For example, when my husband, Cliff, made his transition, for about six months, within five minutes of conversation with someone, I would mention that my husband had died. It was a real measure of growth for me when I met someone at church, talked to them at length, and three weeks later they found out I was a relatively recent widow. I also can remember how, when I quit my "career" as a librarian and computer trainer, that for at least a year, I would tell people who asked that I "used to be..." a person with a real job! And how when I moved to Virginia, I would always slip quickly into the conversation that I had moved here from Colorado. Today, when I meet new people, I delight in telling most of them that I am a Religious Science practitioner, and within the first five minutes, am likely to be telling them about my vision of Evensong. I really like the fact that I am much more forward and up referenced than down and back now. Abe says that we are in every moment telling the Universe who we are, and it is reponding to that signal. (See lesson 13 on my Web site below for the Who Am I game, if you are interested in more info on the Abe game.) Who are you saying you are? Love and hugs, Connee -- Come visit my site: --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations KNICKS@.... Our latest ONElist of the week. How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ complete |
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Re: What is Abraham's message?
Robert Payne
What is Abraham's message? for me the message of abraham is that our focus creates the reality that we experience. connected, we create a reality that we love. disconnected, we create reality that we resist. that there is nothing outside of ourselves. connected we are all one with ATI and disconnected we separate. abrahams message is only a reminder of YCYOR. lo(ve)is -----Original Message----- From: David W. Gordon <videoman@...> To: Abraham-Hicks List <Abraham-Hicks@...> Date: Saturday, July 10, 1999 1:42 PM Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] What is Abraham's message? From: "David W. Gordon" <videoman@...>my appreciation for you.Universe. You have given to me and to my world - to all here, the JOY that is CoreEnergy. It is PPE expressing as all that I know it to be. |
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Re: The song of the sky.....blooper..
Sandy Cecil
Hey Nori!
<giggle> wasn't really all THAT much of a blooper! Kind of made sense.. ya' know? The sky sings a SONG... Do it is. "Do" as in..Do rea me fa so la ti do?! ROFLMAO!!! Love, Sandy --- AngelHeal7@... wrote: From: AngelHeal7@...------------------------------------------------------------------------ complete |
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Re: Blue Sun
green1
Thank You Paul, your poem moves me deeply...
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Are you familiar with the writings of John G. Neihardt? Your poetry has much in common with his. It's really strong and beautiful when meaning isn't compromised by rhyme and both soar together with the rhythm -- powerful. "Flaming Rainbow," they named him in honor of his understanding and eloquence. He spoke for them, he interpreted them to our culture, and a pity he wasn't better heard. But I heard him, and I heard the hearts of those he spoke for. He wrote BLACK ELK SPEAKS, and he wrote a several-volume Unity of masterful poetry entitled CYCLE OF THE WEST, in which I find his TWILIGHT OF THE SIOUX most noteworthy. Highly recommended. BLACK ELK SPEAKS elaborates a Great Vision which we each carry in our individual ways... With Love, Green ============ -----Original Message-----
From: Paul Roberts <netpaul@...> To: Abraham List <ABRAHAM-HICKS@...> Date: Saturday, July 10, 1999 8:02 AM Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] Blue Sun From: "Paul Roberts" <netpaul@...> |
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Re: Kimmer's dharma
<< Kimmer, thanks for this. It doesn't sound very Abe-ish, but much more like
dharma I have heard and integrated from other sources. The desire to be authentic, to live with truth and honesty, to really be one with the scary mucky stuff as well as the twinkly rainbow stuff...to swallow the fiery ball entire...this strikes me as being at the core of the hero's journey we are ultimately all called to embark upon and complete. >> Ah, NetPaul, you picked up on my homespun, eclectic spirituality. :-) You're right, I'm not strictly Abe. I take what resonates with me from Abe and from other traditions, too, but there isn't one tradition I completely embrace, it's much more personalized than that. If I had to put an Abe spin on this, I'd just say that "All is well" really rings true, including the sticky, mucky stuff. :-) Going through the sticky, mucky stuff has gotten me here, and I don't regret a minute of it. When you can relax even during tough times within the certain knowledge that it's all right and there for a reason, it makes it so much easier. :-) Kimmer |
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Re: What is Abraham's message?
David L. Crooks
One of the core messages for me was/is the simplest -- All Is Well! Knowing
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that everything is as it should be and getting better all the time. I was just listening to the Law of Deliberate Creation and I feel better knowing the laws of the universe as to how and why I am getting what I am getting (or not getting). It is amazing to me that that tape was made over 10 years ago and Abraham is still telling us the same thing just in different ways. Love and Light, DLC -----Original Message-----
From: David W. Gordon [mailto:videoman@...] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 1999 1:43 PM From: "David W. Gordon" <videoman@...> Dear Abraham, I want to Thank you for all that you have blessed me with today. I feel the flow of our love, your wisdom, and your connection to me now. I rejoice in the knowing that you have spoken the truth to me in ways that go as far as my conciousness goes; and that is to the depth and breadth of my appreciation for you. I nearly explode with delight in the knowing that with your lessons, your gifts of processes, and your way of knowing the "way it is" in this Universe. You have given to me and to my world - to all here, the JOY that is Core Energy. It is PPE expressing as all that I know it to be. This leads me to question the group and myself: What is Abraham's message? For me it is to see the Joy, experience Pure Love, and KNOW it. Just that. Period. For me that is Abraham's message - for all I know it to be. What is Abraham's core message, to you? in Life force, Love and Joy, david. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners! Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ complete |
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Re: What is Abraham's message?
Juls
For Me Abrahams message is that All Is Well and once we Really get that,
then everything is possible, to focus on what it is that makes your heart sing and forget the rest, to realize and acknowledge that everyone is just donig the best that they can in every moment and if you can just be kind to yourself and everyone around you, things will work out for the best. TO live in your own dream world and let it blossom to be all that it can be. To find the joy and the gift in every moment, cuz there always is one in there somewhere. And if all else fails, take a nap. :D LOVE YA- Juls |
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Impossiblity of Cause in the past.
MMHaffner
it's impossible for cause..........-ANY- cause to happen in the "past".
there is one place and -ONLY- one place where cause happens. in the rite [[[[[[ now ]]]]]] now the thing to do is to think about the *FULL IMPLICATIONS* of the above statement! and then.......what happens to the thousands and thousands of problems that "pop up". are they still around if the above is rightly contemplated? |
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Kimmer's dharma
Paul Roberts
Kimmer writes <snips>
Know what? When you live alone, you have to get to know and likeyourself REALLY well, no choice. Scary, mucky stuff comes up and demands yourwhirl of a social life, you have to face it, because there's no one else thereto take your attention away from it. First I had to be completelyI did. Then I had to figure out why I didn't like living alone, and themost basic reason was that I just didn't like my own company, period. Then I had to figure out why I didn't like myself, and begin to changethe things that felt inauthentic and start living with truth and honesty.Kimmer, thanks for this. It doesn't sound very Abe-ish, but much more like dharma I have heard and integrated from other sources. The desire to be authentic, to live with truth and honesty, to really be one with the scary mucky stuff as well as the twinkly rainbow stuff...to swallow the fiery ball entire...this strikes me as being at the core of the hero's journey we are ultimately all called to embark upon and complete. For me the deepest intersection of Abe and everything else I have learned and heard is in my knowing that my deepest and most abiding desire is to be awake, with all that word implies. Love, NetPaul |
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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Q & A on new listserv.
Morgan
David Dearest King of Listserv Love and Joy,
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Thank you from my expanded heart for all this trouble you go to for the Abe-list - it is a labour plork of love I know - but sending you much appreciation - you are doing an awesome job! Love and namaste, Caryl
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Who am I?
Who am I? In social situations I guess I would say Im a retired law
librarian. But that doesnt conjure up images of who I want to be, or be seen as!! Im a visionary. Im a nature lover... Im part of nature, Im one of the animal species here in my beautiful riverine, white-pine forest ecology. Im a teacher and student of metaphysics. Im a recluse, Im a hermit, Im whatever you call those people who go off to the woods to be alone and live the simple life, like Thoreau did. Next time Im at a cocktail party Ill introduce myself as a visionary nature-loving simplistic metaphysical recluse!! (Im safe, as cocktail parties arent part of my world) Thanks for this exercise, Connee. Perhaps you and Abraham meant how would we introduce ourselves to the Universe, but ordinarily we are introducing ourselves to someone here in the physical. For me the exercise went beyond how we describe ourselves. It showed that we define who we are by the standards, expectations, and definitions of the people and the community we introduce ourselves TO. We say who we are in terms that make sense to the people we say it TO, and we say it to show where we fit into their world. Visionary nature loving metaphysically oriented simplistic recluses seldom need to describe themselves to anybody in ten words or less. This is because of where we are and are *not*, and who we are and are not *with*! All the good things I am, all the important things, cant be summarized the way people in most social situations want them summarized. This is partly because their labels don't fit, their cubbyholes and categories don't fit. When I am in places where there are no labels and cubbyholes, I feel good. (Thanks, David, and Abraham, and all of you readers for this list, which is one of those "places"!!) The living things in nature KNOW who I am without my saying, and so does the Universe and all of non-physical. New people I meet through my existing connections and/or in the context of metaphysical classes seem content to discover who I am gradually as I express myself in our shared experience. Its like they could pick up on my vibration and know who I am almost the way the beings in the natural world do. And they are content to wait for more to unfold as our association grows. Wisely they know that who I am changes and shifts, and that they will discover for themselves, as I am discovering, who I am. Perhaps I am someone different with each of them. Each being you are with, each community you are part of, evokes "who you are" from within. Are they evoking who you want to be? Examine not only who you are (in terms of who you want to be) and how you introduce yourself, but who you are introducing yourself TO. What associations allow and evoke and encourage and LOVE the person you are describing? Find them and introduce yourself to THEM!! There you will feel free. There you will feel loved. There you will grow. There you will experience joy! Jane(ME) |
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