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Carts for scopes?

 

Does anybody have a cheat sheet on which carts go with which families of
Tek scopes?

I have a 453A, 475A, and 7834, thus need several carts.

Any guidance appreciated...

Tim
N5IIT

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Looking for a tunnel diode pulser, 067-0681-01

wshawlee2
 

Anybody got one of these little devils hiding in a dark corner?
Would be happy to pay or trade for one in working condtion.
much appreciated,
walter


Re: Diagnostic Lead Set 012-0556-00

 

Thanks all for your responses. Here it is:


.htm


Re: Sampling story

Craig Sawyers
 

Here's an interesting paper on sampling technology from Mark Kahrs

That's a great paper - the most complete history of sampling technology I've
seen. I was astonished to hear that the limit is now pushing 1THz
(1000GHz)! That is a wavelenth of 300um - in the thermal infrared.

Hats off to Mark for that paper. The test equipment part of his site on
is also worth a
visit - he's also a Tek nut. Looking at the acknowlegements, David de
Giacomo also helped out on the preparation - he's a Tek and test equipment
afficionado too, and good guy: .

Thanks for the link, Fred

Craig


(No subject)

Dave Henderson
 

Phil

Can you handle large email attachments? I have a schematic but it will be several MB in size..PDF


Dave


l Sittner wrote:

This morning I discovered that me trusty PS503A is inoperative. Does anyone have a PDF schematic that they are willing to share?

Phil







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Sampling story

pe1fbo
 

Hi All,

Here's an interesting paper on sampling technology from Mark Kahrs




- Fred de Vries


(No subject)

 

This morning I discovered that me trusty PS503A is inoperative. Does anyone have a PDF schematic that they are willing to share?

Phil


Re: Digest Number 1029

Don Mathis
 

I have a TEK 485 that is beautiful. It was used at Bell Labs.
However, I've been told that it needs the HV part 152-0509-00
and possibly a fan. I can't find the HV part. I checked with
Sphere in Canada. Rats!

Don Mathis
Atlanta, Georgia
770-921-9555

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Date: 2/28/04 8:05:10 AM


There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Recommendations?
From: "John" <nycspirit@...>
2. Looking for TDS2MM Module
From: "kitztech" <kitztech@...>
3. Re: Recommendations?
From: <nr1dx@...>
4. Re: Recommendations?
From: "Bruce Lane" <kyrrin@...>
5. Re: Recommendations?
From: timothy.urban@...
6. Re: Recommendations?
From: "jbarnes" <jbarnes@...>
7. RE: Recommendations?
From: "Gary Allsebrook" <regman10@...>
8. Re: Recommendations?
From: "Jeff W" <vwthingy@...>
9. RE: Recommendations?
From: "Craig Sawyers" <c.sawyers@...>
10. GR847 connector
From: Bill Smith <ko4nrbs@...>
11. RE: Recommendations?
From: "Gary Allsebrook" <regman10@...>
12. 067-0655-00
From: Dan Tulloss <dtulloss@...>
13. Re: Diagnostic Lead Set 012-0556-00
From: "Miroslav Pokorni" <mpokorni2000@...>
14. RE: 067-0655-00
From: "Craig Sawyers" <c.sawyers@...>
15. Re: 067-0655-00
From: "Miroslav Pokorni" <mpokorni2000@...>
16. RE: 067-0655-00. Photographs attached!
From: "Dennis Tillman" <dennis@...>
17. FG501 Help
From: "Bruce" <bruceh@...>
18. Re: FG501 Help
From: "Miroslav Pokorni" <mpokorni2000@...>


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:10:44 -0000
From: "John" <nycspirit@...>
Subject: Recommendations?

I am looking for a good reliable used Tek scope to learn on
and use
for amateur radio repairs. I see many up for sale on eBay and
would
welcome any advice on which I should consider, and which should
be
avoided due to common problems, or inavailability of parts.
I would
like to spend up to $200, but would possibly consider going
as high
as $350 if there is a compelling reason to do so. Thanks in
advance
for your advice and counsel.

John



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:32:50 -0000
From: "kitztech" <kitztech@...>
Subject: Looking for TDS2MM Module

Does anyone have a working TDS2MM module for a TDS224 scope
that they
want to sell. Does anyone know of a source for one?
Thanks
Jeffrey Kitz



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:41:58 +0000
From: <nr1dx@...>
Subject: Re: Recommendations?

John

For a beginner scope I would vote for the 2213 or 2213A.

It is portable, light weight and there are lots of them for
sale at a very reasonable price.They contain very few "custom"
parts inside. Manuals, probes and parts are easily found just
because of the sheer numbers of them built. As scopes go they
are relatively easy to work on and trouble shoot if you have
to.

Next up in the food chain are the 76Xx, 77XX and 7904's. Again
these can be had for under $200 and the plug-ins go very cheaply
as well. They are bigger. much heavier, But the added flexibility
of having over 50 different plug-ins to choose from gives you
the ability to upgrade for special applications over time. Again
Manuals and Parts are pretty available

Dave






From: "John" <nycspirit@...>
Date: 2004/02/27 Fri PM 03:10:44 GMT
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] Recommendations?

I am looking for a good reliable used Tek scope to learn on
and use
for amateur radio repairs. I see many up for sale on eBay
and would
welcome any advice on which I should consider, and which should
be
avoided due to common problems, or inavailability of parts.
I would
like to spend up to $200, but would possibly consider going
as high
as $350 if there is a compelling reason to do so. Thanks in
advance
for your advice and counsel.

John




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:48:03 -0800
From: "Bruce Lane" <kyrrin@...>
Subject: Re: Recommendations?

In that price range, you should be able to do pretty well.
Pay attention to any local ham radio swap meets, electronic surplus
stores, or Ebay as a last resort (can you tell I believe in supporting
local efforts first?) ;-)

You don't specify if you're looking for a "lab" or benchtop
'scope, or if a luggable is more your style. In the case of the
benchtop systems, the 7000 series is probably still one of the
best buys around. Tek made them for over two decades; Mainframes
and plug-ins are still pretty widely available, and they're one
of the most versatile 'scope series ever to hit the industry.

Benchtops first.

For signals up to 100MHz: 7603 mainframe, 7B53A timebase, 7A26
vertical.

For signals up to 200 or so MHz: 7704 or 7704A mainframe, 7B80
or 7B85 timebase, 7A26 vertical (it's good up to 250MHz).

Keep in mind that, for the following frames and plug-ins, you
may well exceed your stated price point.

For signals up to 400-500MHz: 7854, 7834 (storage), 7904, or
7904A mainframes, 7B92A AND 7B85 timebases, 7A24 vertical (50
ohm inputs, suggest using a FET probe), 7A26 (you can still use
them in the higher-bandwidth mainframes) for high-impedance (1M-ohm)
input. The 7A24 goes up to 400MHz, and you can also try for a
7A29.

For signals up to a gig: 7104 mainframe, 7B10 AND 7B15 timebases,
7A29 vertical for high-frequency signals, 7A24 or 7A26 for lower-end
stuff.

Note that, if you get a storage-type frame (such as the 7834),
the CRTs are very susceptible to damage (burn-in and other nastiness).
Unless you have an explicit need for an analog storage 'scope,
it is probably best to avoid them.

Most digital-type storage 'scopes do not suffer from the same
CRT fragility problems. This would include units like the 468,
many of the 11000 series, the DSA600 series, and pretty much
everything that comes after it.

For a 'luggable:' It's still pretty hard to beat the 465, 475,
and 485 series. The 475A will go up to 250MHz. I should also
mention that the 460 and 470 series were widely used as field-service
'scopes by many a computer tech in the late 70's through the
early-to-mid 80's. Your price point should work for pretty much
anything in this series with the possible exception of a 485,
or a mint-condition specimen of the other series.

Happy hunting.

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On 27-Feb-04 at 15:10 John wrote:

I am looking for a good reliable used Tek scope to learn on
and use
for amateur radio repairs. I see many up for sale on eBay and
would
welcome any advice on which I should consider, and which should
be
avoided due to common problems, or inavailability of parts.
I would
like to spend up to $200, but would possibly consider going
as high
as $350 if there is a compelling reason to do so. Thanks in
advance
for your advice and counsel.

John




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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 19:58:44 -0000
From: "Jeff W" <vwthingy@...>
Subject: Re: Recommendations?

I have the same outlook as Gary. I have bought & sold a number
of
Tek scopes & have quite a good selection of test equipment to
test
functionality & calibrate them. Anytime I put a scope I've
fixed &
calibrated up on eBay, I stand behind it 100%. Some scopes
I've sold
have had some problems that wasn't worth me monkeying around
with it,
but I note the problems clearly and sell those scopes as-is
or as
parts units. I, like Gary, am in it for the hobby aspect of
fixing
up a non-working scope that someone can use. I cannot justify
it as
a money making effort given the time I put into it. So I consider
the persons buying my scopes for a reasonable price as fortunate
that
someone has taken the effort to fix, clean & calibrate them.

Of course, I cannot sell my items as being "in calibration"
because
most of my test equipment is out of calibration. But I have
certain
key test equipment in cal, a very accurate Fluke DMM, leveled
sine
generator to 900 Mhz, etc., that I check my other equipment
to. And
as far as horizontal timing, there are plenty of tricks I use
to
check my frequency source, like using WVVB, and zero-beating
local AM
stations for the higher frequency checks. While arguably not
super
precise, it is good enough for scopes that are only accurate
in the 1
to 3% range anyway.

Jeff

"Gary Allsebrook" <regman10@c...> wrote:
Although there are many such vendors on eBay, the scopes I
am
planning on
marketing will be fully tested and supplied with a manual
and at
least 1
Tektronix probe. I have invested heavily in calibration equipment,
pulse &
function generators, etc. to insure functionality and proper
operation (and
because I like having lots of equipment). I have made whatever
repairs
necessary. I do this more as hobby than a profit center so
I don't
count
the many hours some instruments require as part of the price.
The
photos I
provide are not the grainy, out of focus, non-operating bogus
photos that
many post (and who knows what instrument they were photographing).
Mine are
guaranteed to be of the actual intrument with actual waveforms
displayed on
the instrument. This is a win win situation, I enjoy the
troubleshooting
and refurbishing and want to pass an instrument along that
will
bring as
much joy and satisfaction as I have had getting it there.



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:10:46 -0000
From: "Craig Sawyers" <c.sawyers@...>
Subject: RE: Recommendations?

because I like having lots of equipment). I have made whatever
repairs
necessary. I do this more as hobby than a profit center so
I don't count
the many hours some instruments require as part of the price.
The photos I
provide are not the grainy, out of focus, non-operating bogus
photos that
many post (and who knows what instrument they were
photographing). Mine are
guaranteed to be of the actual intrument with actual waveforms
displayed on
the instrument. This is a win win situation, I enjoy the
troubleshooting
and refurbishing and want to pass an instrument along that
will bring as
much joy and satisfaction as I have had getting it there.
Hear hear! Me too. I'm congenitally incapable of selling something
that
either I know doesn't work, or that I haven't tested. If I'm
selling a
sampling system, I show photos of the actual unit showing the
response to a
30ps rise pulse. If a storage scope, I show a stored trace.

This isn't a business for me - I actually *enjoy* fixing things.
Gives you
a real buzz to get under the original designer's skin - the
things they did
well, and the short cuts taken too. Like the 7B15 I've just
checked over
(for my own use) with an electrolytic with the end bulging -
because the
assembly tech put it in the wrong way round when it was originally
built.
I've got three 7T11's with quirky habits and three 7S11 with
oddities - and
I won't put these on eBay until they are fixed.

Did the same process with an old Jaguar V12 saloon (sedan) I
have - rebuilt
it stem to stern. Quite daunting when you end up with a V12
engine in an
awful lot of parts - and boy is that a set of compromises -
a superb engine
using a GM400 gearbox, with horrendous cost cutting everywhere
else. Death
by Lucas, the prince of darkness. Enjoy driving it now in the
fine
weather - the UK is a total salt belt in the winter.

Craig



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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:35:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Smith <ko4nrbs@...>
Subject: GR847 connector

Anyone got an extra GR874 connector? I need one for
my Tektronix Type 106 Square Wave Generator.

I need the one with the BNC connector on the opposite
end of the GR874 connector.
Thanks,
Bill

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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:03:34 -0800
From: "Gary Allsebrook" <regman10@...>
Subject: RE: Recommendations?

Oddly enough, I enjoy the fixer uppers the best! I am almost
dissapointed
when they come in in too good a shape. Like you I also show
storage trace
photos also if it's a storage scope.

It helps me to develop and refine my troubleshooting chops.
I also restore
vintage tube equipment (or valve if you like) My latest being
a 1938
Wurlitzer organ in a church. The way I look at it if you can
repair complex
test equipment you can fix anything!

What I don't understand is why people still use analog o'scopes
for
quantitative measurement with all of the good surplus counters
and DMM's out
there. I use my scopes mainly for displaying electrical/electronic
anomolies.
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Sawyers [mailto:c.sawyers@...]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:11 PM
To: tekscopes@...; Bruce Lane
Subject: RE: [TekScopes] Recommendations?


> because I like having lots of equipment). I have made whatever
repairs
> necessary. I do this more as hobby than a profit center
so I don't
count
> the many hours some instruments require as part of the price.
> The photos I
> provide are not the grainy, out of focus, non-operating
bogus photos
that
> many post (and who knows what instrument they were
> photographing). Mine are
> guaranteed to be of the actual intrument with actual waveforms
> displayed on
> the instrument. This is a win win situation, I enjoy the
troubleshooting
> and refurbishing and want to pass an instrument along that
will bring as
> much joy and satisfaction as I have had getting it there.

Hear hear! Me too. I'm congenitally incapable of selling
something that
either I know doesn't work, or that I haven't tested. If
I'm selling a
sampling system, I show photos of the actual unit showing
the response to
a
30ps rise pulse. If a storage scope, I show a stored trace.

This isn't a business for me - I actually *enjoy* fixing things.
Gives
you
a real buzz to get under the original designer's skin - the
things they
did
well, and the short cuts taken too. Like the 7B15 I've just
checked over
(for my own use) with an electrolytic with the end bulging
- because the
assembly tech put it in the wrong way round when it was originally
built.
I've got three 7T11's with quirky habits and three 7S11 with
oddities -
and
I won't put these on eBay until they are fixed.

Did the same process with an old Jaguar V12 saloon (sedan)
I have -
rebuilt
it stem to stern. Quite daunting when you end up with a V12
engine in an
awful lot of parts - and boy is that a set of compromises
- a superb
engine
using a GM400 gearbox, with horrendous cost cutting everywhere
else.
Death
by Lucas, the prince of darkness. Enjoy driving it now in
the fine
weather - the UK is a total salt belt in the winter.

Craig


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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:36:56 -0800
From: Dan Tulloss <dtulloss@...>
Subject: 067-0655-00

Does anyone know where I can find this extender. It is used
to do the
risetime on the 067-0587-XX Standardizers for the 7000 Series.
Any help
will be greatly appreciated. I cannot even find it when I google
it.

Thanks,
Dan Tulloss
Senior Metrologist
National Test Equipment, Inc.
760-639-1700
760-639-1799 Fax
www.nationaltestequipment.com



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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:53:12 -0800
From: "Miroslav Pokorni" <mpokorni2000@...>
Subject: Re: Diagnostic Lead Set 012-0556-00

I can not find the picture, but I have that adapter and will
try to describe
it for you:

One end is a 12 pin, 100 mil pitch, two row header connector;
I will call
that connector J1. For pinout of J1 I will use convention where
pin #1 is
top right pin when facing connector (opposite from wire side)
and pin #2 is
left of the pin #1, i.e. odd numbered pins are in upper row
and even pins
are in lower row of pins.

The other side of this adapter consists of one 10 pin 'comb'
(J2) which
mates with P6451 probe pod input signal end and the second connector
(J3) is
a 2 pin 'comb' which mates with ground connection on probe pod.

If you place J2 to face you and '012-0556-00' label is on top
(a pull ridge
with words 'PULL HERE' facing down), pin on the left side will
be called pin
#1. Similar numbering convention is used for J3.

A table processed by Microsoft's seamless office suite rendered
unreadable.

Probably the most economical way to make that adapter is to
get a two row
header with wire-wrap pins and hack it to size to make a 12
pin connector.
Then, you can use your regular 'comb connector' from logic analyzer
and plug
wire end to wire-wrap pins. For ground connection you can use
regular logic
analyzer ground connect and hook it up to pins 2 and 11 of J1.
In that way
you have adapter you wanted without destroying analyzer's comb
connector.



Dear and omniscient Microsoft screwed up tabs and table is not
readable, so
I will send you that thing as an attachement in direct mail.



Regards

Miroslav Pokorni


----- Original Message -----
From: "bbiandov" <bbiandov@...>
To: <tekscopes@...>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:19 AM
Subject: [TekScopes] Diagnostic Lead Set 012-0556-00


Hello,

I know this may be off topic and if that is the case I am
sorry. I
need the wiring for Diagnostic Lead Set 012-0556-00 for Tek
logic
analyzer 1240. Its just 10 wire cable with two connectors
and I have
searched for hours with no prospect at all.

If you have it, a picture is all I need.

Thanks to all




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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:30:09 -0000
From: "Craig Sawyers" <c.sawyers@...>
Subject: RE: 067-0655-00

Pretty rare - I've only seen two come up on eBay during the
last year.
Missed both of them.

However, it is a fairly straightforward piece of kit - and one
which I
intend to make up myself. Basically, it is a plug and a socket
with a
section of circuit board in between about 5/8" long. The socket
is the same
as in a 7xxx series backplane. And the plug has the same plastic
frame as a
plug in. So given a scrapper scope and plug-in that can be
harvested for
the bits, the rest is straightforward - a piece of easily made
PCB is all
that is needed. I saved the images from one of the auctions
for reference -
let me know if you'd like a copy.

The main thing that has to be done is that A11 (vert +), B11
(vert -), A13
(trig +) and B13 (trig-) are broken out at the socket with peltola-ended
cables grounded to A12, B12. There is no connection to the
plug for the
four signal lines, but the earths on A12, B12 connect through.

There is also two peltola sockets mounted on the plug end, with
high
frequency 50-ohm terminations on the back. A disc of circuit
board with
4x200 ohm surface mount resistors mounted radially is good to
above 1GHz -
or just solder them across (have a look at
for
the general concept). The idea is that you can terminate the
trigger cables
while looking at the vertical signals and vice versa.

There is also a pair of rare peltola-GR adaptors, but frankly
it would be
just as good to use BNC in any of these positions, and easy
to buy GR-BNC
adaptors to get to (say) S1 or S2 samplers.

Hope that helps.

Craig

Does anyone know where I can find this extender. It is used
to do the
risetime on the 067-0587-XX Standardizers for the 7000 Series.
Any help
will be greatly appreciated. I cannot even find it when I
google it.

Thanks,
Dan Tulloss
Senior Metrologist
National Test Equipment, Inc.
760-639-1700
760-639-1799 Fax
www.nationaltestequipment.com




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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:52:29 -0800
From: "Miroslav Pokorni" <mpokorni2000@...>
Subject: Re: 067-0655-00

Hello Craig,

Could you, please, send me pictures of that adapter, if they
are handy. I
must have come across of that -0655 gig because a had it down
as an item to
buy, but I thought that was just plain rigid extender (which
is actually
067-0589-00).

While we are at it, what is 'peltola-ended' termination? Is
that brass
eyelet termination, per chance, which Tektronix used widely
for internal
cable connectors?

Regards

Miroslav Pokorni

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From: "Craig Sawyers" <c.sawyers@...>
To: <tekscopes@...>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: [TekScopes] 067-0655-00


Pretty rare - I've only seen two come up on eBay during the
last year.
Missed both of them.

However, it is a fairly straightforward piece of kit - and
one which I
intend to make up myself. Basically, it is a plug and a socket
with a
section of circuit board in between about 5/8" long. The
socket is the
same
as in a 7xxx series backplane. And the plug has the same
plastic frame as
a
plug in. So given a scrapper scope and plug-in that can be
harvested for
the bits, the rest is straightforward - a piece of easily
made PCB is all
that is needed. I saved the images from one of the auctions
for
reference -
let me know if you'd like a copy.

The main thing that has to be done is that A11 (vert +), B11
(vert -), A13
(trig +) and B13 (trig-) are broken out at the socket with
peltola-ended
cables grounded to A12, B12. There is no connection to the
plug for the
four signal lines, but the earths on A12, B12 connect through.

There is also two peltola sockets mounted on the plug end,
with high
frequency 50-ohm terminations on the back. A disc of circuit
board with
4x200 ohm surface mount resistors mounted radially is good
to above 1GHz -
or just solder them across (have a look at
for
the general concept). The idea is that you can terminate the
trigger
cables
while looking at the vertical signals and vice versa.

There is also a pair of rare peltola-GR adaptors, but frankly
it would be
just as good to use BNC in any of these positions, and easy
to buy GR-BNC
adaptors to get to (say) S1 or S2 samplers.

Hope that helps.

Craig

Does anyone know where I can find this extender. It is
used to do the
risetime on the 067-0587-XX Standardizers for the 7000 Series.
Any help
will be greatly appreciated. I cannot even find it when
I google it.

Thanks,
Dan Tulloss
Senior Metrologist
National Test Equipment, Inc.
760-639-1700
760-639-1799 Fax
www.nationaltestequipment.com




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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:04:21 -0800
From: "Dennis Tillman" <dennis@...>
Subject: RE: 067-0655-00. Photographs attached!

Hi Dan,
They are EXTREMELY rare. Here are some JPG pictures of one of
these
which Ernest Lans (from Holland) won on eBay on 4/15/03.
This was the only time I ever saw one on eBay. I can provide
you with
Ernest's email address (assuming that is OK with him) if you
need to
reach him.
Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Tulloss [mailto:dtulloss@...]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:37 PM
To: tekscopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] 067-0655-00


Does anyone know where I can find this extender. It is used
to do the
risetime on the 067-0587-XX Standardizers for the 7000 Series.
Any help
will be greatly appreciated. I cannot even find it when I google
it.

Thanks,
Dan Tulloss
Senior Metrologist
National Test Equipment, Inc.
760-639-1700
760-639-1799 Fax
www.nationaltestequipment.com






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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 05:31:09 -0000
From: "Bruce" <bruceh@...>
Subject: FG501 Help

I am looking for schematics for the FG501 plug in. I have found
the
FG501A at BAMA, but it is quite a bit different than the FG501.
Thanks, Bruce



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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 23:33:22 -0800
From: "Miroslav Pokorni" <mpokorni2000@...>
Subject: Re: FG501 Help

I am sending you .pdf file by direct mail.

Regards

Miroslav Pokorni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce" <bruceh@...>
To: <tekscopes@...>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:31 PM
Subject: [TekScopes] FG501 Help


I am looking for schematics for the FG501 plug in. I have
found the
FG501A at BAMA, but it is quite a bit different than the FG501.
Thanks, Bruce



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Re: FG501 Help

 

I am sending you .pdf file by direct mail.

Regards

Miroslav Pokorni

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce" <bruceh@...>
To: <TekScopes@...>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:31 PM
Subject: [TekScopes] FG501 Help


I am looking for schematics for the FG501 plug in. I have found the
FG501A at BAMA, but it is quite a bit different than the FG501.
Thanks, Bruce


FG501 Help

Bruce
 

I am looking for schematics for the FG501 plug in. I have found the
FG501A at BAMA, but it is quite a bit different than the FG501.
Thanks, Bruce


Re: 067-0655-00. Photographs attached!

Dennis Tillman
 

Hi Dan,
They are EXTREMELY rare. Here are some JPG pictures of one of these
which Ernest Lans (from Holland) won on eBay on 4/15/03.
This was the only time I ever saw one on eBay. I can provide you with
Ernest's email address (assuming that is OK with him) if you need to
reach him.
Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Tulloss [mailto:dtulloss@...]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:37 PM
To: tekscopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] 067-0655-00


Does anyone know where I can find this extender. It is used to do the
risetime on the 067-0587-XX Standardizers for the 7000 Series. Any help
will be greatly appreciated. I cannot even find it when I google it.

Thanks,
Dan Tulloss
Senior Metrologist
National Test Equipment, Inc.
760-639-1700
760-639-1799 Fax
www.nationaltestequipment.com


Re: 067-0655-00

 

Hello Craig,

Could you, please, send me pictures of that adapter, if they are handy. I
must have come across of that -0655 gig because a had it down as an item to
buy, but I thought that was just plain rigid extender (which is actually
067-0589-00).

While we are at it, what is 'peltola-ended' termination? Is that brass
eyelet termination, per chance, which Tektronix used widely for internal
cable connectors?

Regards

Miroslav Pokorni

----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Sawyers" <c.sawyers@...>
To: <tekscopes@...>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: [TekScopes] 067-0655-00


Pretty rare - I've only seen two come up on eBay during the last year.
Missed both of them.

However, it is a fairly straightforward piece of kit - and one which I
intend to make up myself. Basically, it is a plug and a socket with a
section of circuit board in between about 5/8" long. The socket is the
same
as in a 7xxx series backplane. And the plug has the same plastic frame as
a
plug in. So given a scrapper scope and plug-in that can be harvested for
the bits, the rest is straightforward - a piece of easily made PCB is all
that is needed. I saved the images from one of the auctions for
reference -
let me know if you'd like a copy.

The main thing that has to be done is that A11 (vert +), B11 (vert -), A13
(trig +) and B13 (trig-) are broken out at the socket with peltola-ended
cables grounded to A12, B12. There is no connection to the plug for the
four signal lines, but the earths on A12, B12 connect through.

There is also two peltola sockets mounted on the plug end, with high
frequency 50-ohm terminations on the back. A disc of circuit board with
4x200 ohm surface mount resistors mounted radially is good to above 1GHz -
or just solder them across (have a look at
for
the general concept). The idea is that you can terminate the trigger
cables
while looking at the vertical signals and vice versa.

There is also a pair of rare peltola-GR adaptors, but frankly it would be
just as good to use BNC in any of these positions, and easy to buy GR-BNC
adaptors to get to (say) S1 or S2 samplers.

Hope that helps.

Craig

Does anyone know where I can find this extender. It is used to do the
risetime on the 067-0587-XX Standardizers for the 7000 Series. Any help
will be greatly appreciated. I cannot even find it when I google it.

Thanks,
Dan Tulloss
Senior Metrologist
National Test Equipment, Inc.
760-639-1700
760-639-1799 Fax
www.nationaltestequipment.com




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Re: 067-0655-00

Craig Sawyers
 

Pretty rare - I've only seen two come up on eBay during the last year.
Missed both of them.

However, it is a fairly straightforward piece of kit - and one which I
intend to make up myself. Basically, it is a plug and a socket with a
section of circuit board in between about 5/8" long. The socket is the same
as in a 7xxx series backplane. And the plug has the same plastic frame as a
plug in. So given a scrapper scope and plug-in that can be harvested for
the bits, the rest is straightforward - a piece of easily made PCB is all
that is needed. I saved the images from one of the auctions for reference -
let me know if you'd like a copy.

The main thing that has to be done is that A11 (vert +), B11 (vert -), A13
(trig +) and B13 (trig-) are broken out at the socket with peltola-ended
cables grounded to A12, B12. There is no connection to the plug for the
four signal lines, but the earths on A12, B12 connect through.

There is also two peltola sockets mounted on the plug end, with high
frequency 50-ohm terminations on the back. A disc of circuit board with
4x200 ohm surface mount resistors mounted radially is good to above 1GHz -
or just solder them across (have a look at for
the general concept). The idea is that you can terminate the trigger cables
while looking at the vertical signals and vice versa.

There is also a pair of rare peltola-GR adaptors, but frankly it would be
just as good to use BNC in any of these positions, and easy to buy GR-BNC
adaptors to get to (say) S1 or S2 samplers.

Hope that helps.

Craig

Does anyone know where I can find this extender. It is used to do the
risetime on the 067-0587-XX Standardizers for the 7000 Series. Any help
will be greatly appreciated. I cannot even find it when I google it.

Thanks,
Dan Tulloss
Senior Metrologist
National Test Equipment, Inc.
760-639-1700
760-639-1799 Fax
www.nationaltestequipment.com




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Re: Diagnostic Lead Set 012-0556-00

 

I can not find the picture, but I have that adapter and will try to describe
it for you:

One end is a 12 pin, 100 mil pitch, two row header connector; I will call
that connector J1. For pinout of J1 I will use convention where pin #1 is
top right pin when facing connector (opposite from wire side) and pin #2 is
left of the pin #1, i.e. odd numbered pins are in upper row and even pins
are in lower row of pins.

The other side of this adapter consists of one 10 pin 'comb' (J2) which
mates with P6451 probe pod input signal end and the second connector (J3) is
a 2 pin 'comb' which mates with ground connection on probe pod.

If you place J2 to face you and '012-0556-00' label is on top (a pull ridge
with words 'PULL HERE' facing down), pin on the left side will be called pin
#1. Similar numbering convention is used for J3.

A table processed by Microsoft's seamless office suite rendered unreadable.

Probably the most economical way to make that adapter is to get a two row
header with wire-wrap pins and hack it to size to make a 12 pin connector.
Then, you can use your regular 'comb connector' from logic analyzer and plug
wire end to wire-wrap pins. For ground connection you can use regular logic
analyzer ground connect and hook it up to pins 2 and 11 of J1. In that way
you have adapter you wanted without destroying analyzer's comb connector.



Dear and omniscient Microsoft screwed up tabs and table is not readable, so
I will send you that thing as an attachement in direct mail.



Regards

Miroslav Pokorni

----- Original Message -----
From: "bbiandov" <bbiandov@...>
To: <TekScopes@...>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:19 AM
Subject: [TekScopes] Diagnostic Lead Set 012-0556-00


Hello,

I know this may be off topic and if that is the case I am sorry. I
need the wiring for Diagnostic Lead Set 012-0556-00 for Tek logic
analyzer 1240. Its just 10 wire cable with two connectors and I have
searched for hours with no prospect at all.

If you have it, a picture is all I need.

Thanks to all


067-0655-00

 

Does anyone know where I can find this extender. It is used to do the
risetime on the 067-0587-XX Standardizers for the 7000 Series. Any help
will be greatly appreciated. I cannot even find it when I google it.

Thanks,
Dan Tulloss
Senior Metrologist
National Test Equipment, Inc.
760-639-1700
760-639-1799 Fax
www.nationaltestequipment.com


Re: Recommendations?

 

Oddly enough, I enjoy the fixer uppers the best! I am almost dissapointed
when they come in in too good a shape. Like you I also show storage trace
photos also if it's a storage scope.

It helps me to develop and refine my troubleshooting chops. I also restore
vintage tube equipment (or valve if you like) My latest being a 1938
Wurlitzer organ in a church. The way I look at it if you can repair complex
test equipment you can fix anything!

What I don't understand is why people still use analog o'scopes for
quantitative measurement with all of the good surplus counters and DMM's out
there. I use my scopes mainly for displaying electrical/electronic
anomolies.

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Sawyers [mailto:c.sawyers@...]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:11 PM
To: tekscopes@...; Bruce Lane
Subject: RE: [TekScopes] Recommendations?


> because I like having lots of equipment). I have made whatever repairs
> necessary. I do this more as hobby than a profit center so I don't
count
> the many hours some instruments require as part of the price.
> The photos I
> provide are not the grainy, out of focus, non-operating bogus photos
that
> many post (and who knows what instrument they were
> photographing). Mine are
> guaranteed to be of the actual intrument with actual waveforms
> displayed on
> the instrument. This is a win win situation, I enjoy the
troubleshooting
> and refurbishing and want to pass an instrument along that will bring as
> much joy and satisfaction as I have had getting it there.

Hear hear! Me too. I'm congenitally incapable of selling something that
either I know doesn't work, or that I haven't tested. If I'm selling a
sampling system, I show photos of the actual unit showing the response to
a
30ps rise pulse. If a storage scope, I show a stored trace.

This isn't a business for me - I actually *enjoy* fixing things. Gives
you
a real buzz to get under the original designer's skin - the things they
did
well, and the short cuts taken too. Like the 7B15 I've just checked over
(for my own use) with an electrolytic with the end bulging - because the
assembly tech put it in the wrong way round when it was originally built.
I've got three 7T11's with quirky habits and three 7S11 with oddities -
and
I won't put these on eBay until they are fixed.

Did the same process with an old Jaguar V12 saloon (sedan) I have -
rebuilt
it stem to stern. Quite daunting when you end up with a V12 engine in an
awful lot of parts - and boy is that a set of compromises - a superb
engine
using a GM400 gearbox, with horrendous cost cutting everywhere else.
Death
by Lucas, the prince of darkness. Enjoy driving it now in the fine
weather - the UK is a total salt belt in the winter.

Craig


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GR847 connector

Bill Smith
 

Anyone got an extra GR874 connector? I need one for
my Tektronix Type 106 Square Wave Generator.

I need the one with the BNC connector on the opposite
end of the GR874 connector.
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Re: Recommendations?

Craig Sawyers
 

because I like having lots of equipment). I have made whatever repairs
necessary. I do this more as hobby than a profit center so I don't count
the many hours some instruments require as part of the price.
The photos I
provide are not the grainy, out of focus, non-operating bogus photos that
many post (and who knows what instrument they were
photographing). Mine are
guaranteed to be of the actual intrument with actual waveforms
displayed on
the instrument. This is a win win situation, I enjoy the troubleshooting
and refurbishing and want to pass an instrument along that will bring as
much joy and satisfaction as I have had getting it there.
Hear hear! Me too. I'm congenitally incapable of selling something that
either I know doesn't work, or that I haven't tested. If I'm selling a
sampling system, I show photos of the actual unit showing the response to a
30ps rise pulse. If a storage scope, I show a stored trace.

This isn't a business for me - I actually *enjoy* fixing things. Gives you
a real buzz to get under the original designer's skin - the things they did
well, and the short cuts taken too. Like the 7B15 I've just checked over
(for my own use) with an electrolytic with the end bulging - because the
assembly tech put it in the wrong way round when it was originally built.
I've got three 7T11's with quirky habits and three 7S11 with oddities - and
I won't put these on eBay until they are fixed.

Did the same process with an old Jaguar V12 saloon (sedan) I have - rebuilt
it stem to stern. Quite daunting when you end up with a V12 engine in an
awful lot of parts - and boy is that a set of compromises - a superb engine
using a GM400 gearbox, with horrendous cost cutting everywhere else. Death
by Lucas, the prince of darkness. Enjoy driving it now in the fine
weather - the UK is a total salt belt in the winter.

Craig


Re: Recommendations?

Jeff W
 

I have the same outlook as Gary. I have bought & sold a number of
Tek scopes & have quite a good selection of test equipment to test
functionality & calibrate them. Anytime I put a scope I've fixed &
calibrated up on eBay, I stand behind it 100%. Some scopes I've sold
have had some problems that wasn't worth me monkeying around with it,
but I note the problems clearly and sell those scopes as-is or as
parts units. I, like Gary, am in it for the hobby aspect of fixing
up a non-working scope that someone can use. I cannot justify it as
a money making effort given the time I put into it. So I consider
the persons buying my scopes for a reasonable price as fortunate that
someone has taken the effort to fix, clean & calibrate them.

Of course, I cannot sell my items as being "in calibration" because
most of my test equipment is out of calibration. But I have certain
key test equipment in cal, a very accurate Fluke DMM, leveled sine
generator to 900 Mhz, etc., that I check my other equipment to. And
as far as horizontal timing, there are plenty of tricks I use to
check my frequency source, like using WVVB, and zero-beating local AM
stations for the higher frequency checks. While arguably not super
precise, it is good enough for scopes that are only accurate in the 1
to 3% range anyway.

Jeff

"Gary Allsebrook" <regman10@c...> wrote:
Although there are many such vendors on eBay, the scopes I am
planning on
marketing will be fully tested and supplied with a manual and at
least 1
Tektronix probe. I have invested heavily in calibration equipment,
pulse &
function generators, etc. to insure functionality and proper
operation (and
because I like having lots of equipment). I have made whatever
repairs
necessary. I do this more as hobby than a profit center so I don't
count
the many hours some instruments require as part of the price. The
photos I
provide are not the grainy, out of focus, non-operating bogus
photos that
many post (and who knows what instrument they were photographing).
Mine are
guaranteed to be of the actual intrument with actual waveforms
displayed on
the instrument. This is a win win situation, I enjoy the
troubleshooting
and refurbishing and want to pass an instrument along that will
bring as
much joy and satisfaction as I have had getting it there.


Re: Recommendations?

 

Although there are many such vendors on eBay, the scopes I am planning on
marketing will be fully tested and supplied with a manual and at least 1
Tektronix probe. I have invested heavily in calibration equipment, pulse &
function generators, etc. to insure functionality and proper operation (and
because I like having lots of equipment). I have made whatever repairs
necessary. I do this more as hobby than a profit center so I don't count
the many hours some instruments require as part of the price. The photos I
provide are not the grainy, out of focus, non-operating bogus photos that
many post (and who knows what instrument they were photographing). Mine are
guaranteed to be of the actual intrument with actual waveforms displayed on
the instrument. This is a win win situation, I enjoy the troubleshooting
and refurbishing and want to pass an instrument along that will bring as
much joy and satisfaction as I have had getting it there.

Right now I have a variety of scopes in inventory: 453A, 465, 465B, 466,
475, 561B(x2), 647A and an OS 245P/U. For my personal use I have a 7603,
465B/DM44, 335 and a 323. I am accumulating a variety of TM series modules
as well and may release some for sale later this year.

-----Original Message-----
From: jbarnes [mailto:jbarnes@...]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:14 AM
To: tekscopes@...; Bruce Lane
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Recommendations?


I would second Bruce's comments on a local purchase. It is very good on
your first scope to be able to play before you buy.

You can make sure that tube is good etc.

A dealer selling a $200.00 scope on ebay can not afford to spend much more
time than plugging it in and seeing if there is is a trace. To properly
check scope take around a hour, to verify the calibration much longer.

Try and find a local source for your first scope.

Remember you need a scope to fix a scope !!!

Regards,

John


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From: "Bruce Lane" <kyrrin@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:48:03 -0800

> In that price range, you should be able to do pretty well. Pay
attention to any local ham radio swap meets, electronic surplus stores, or
Ebay as a last resort (can you tell I believe in supporting local efforts
first?) ;-)
>
> You don't specify if you're looking for a "lab" or benchtop 'scope,
or if a luggable is more your style. In the case of the benchtop systems,
the 7000 series is probably still one of the best buys around. Tek made them
for over two decades; Mainframes and plug-ins are still pretty widely
available, and they're one of the most versatile 'scope series ever to hit
the industry.
>
> Benchtops first.
>
> For signals up to 100MHz: 7603 mainframe, 7B53A timebase, 7A26
vertical.
>
> For signals up to 200 or so MHz: 7704 or 7704A mainframe, 7B80 or
7B85 timebase, 7A26 vertical (it's good up to 250MHz).
>
> Keep in mind that, for the following frames and plug-ins, you may
well exceed your stated price point.
>
> For signals up to 400-500MHz: 7854, 7834 (storage), 7904, or 7904A
mainframes, 7B92A AND 7B85 timebases, 7A24 vertical (50 ohm inputs, suggest
using a FET probe), 7A26 (you can still use them in the higher-bandwidth
mainframes) for high-impedance (1M-ohm) input. The 7A24 goes up to 400MHz,
and you can also try for a 7A29.
>
> For signals up to a gig: 7104 mainframe, 7B10 AND 7B15 timebases,
7A29 vertical for high-frequency signals, 7A24 or 7A26 for lower-end stuff.
>
> Note that, if you get a storage-type frame (such as the 7834), the
CRTs are very susceptible to damage (burn-in and other nastiness). Unless
you have an explicit need for an analog storage 'scope, it is probably best
to avoid them.
>
> Most digital-type storage 'scopes do not suffer from the same CRT
fragility problems. This would include units like the 468, many of the 11000
series, the DSA600 series, and pretty much everything that comes after it.
>
> For a 'luggable:' It's still pretty hard to beat the 465, 475, and
485 series. The 475A will go up to 250MHz. I should also mention that the
460 and 470 series were widely used as field-service 'scopes by many a
computer tech in the late 70's through the early-to-mid 80's. Your price
point should work for pretty much anything in this series with the possible
exception of a 485, or a mint-condition specimen of the other series.
>
> Happy hunting.
>
>* REPLY SEPARATOR *
>
>On 27-Feb-04 at 15:10 John wrote:
>
>>I am looking for a good reliable used Tek scope to learn on and use
>>for amateur radio repairs. I see many up for sale on eBay and would
>>welcome any advice on which I should consider, and which should be
>>avoided due to common problems, or inavailability of parts. I would
>>like to spend up to $200, but would possibly consider going as high
>>as $350 if there is a compelling reason to do so. Thanks in advance
>>for your advice and counsel.
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
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