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Re: Tek 492 SA experts, can you answer these questions?

arthurok
 

you might be able to just take the "video" output from the detector and run it into an audio amp
for fm just demodulate it by slope detection "tune off peak and use a fairly narrow filter"

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Johnson
To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:05 PM
Subject: [TekScopes] Tek 492 SA experts, can you answer these questions?


I'm learning my way around the 492 and don't yet have manuals for it.
(I'd rather get print manuals than a CD copy...got a set for sale?)

I'd like to be able to use the 492 as a receiver for AM and FM
transmissions, to be able to hear them.

My 492 has options 1,2, and 3, so the only IF option I have to work
with is the 10 MHz IF output.

I need to know what are the output specs for the IF output, so I can
determine how much gain I'm going to need. I plan to preamplify the
IF output, feed it through a detector/demodulator, and then need to
add more gain to bring it up to a level suitable for further processing,
including audio band filtering and level adjustment.

I would PRESUME that the correct mode to run in will be zero span,
is this right?

Not having actually used an analyzer in this application before,
I'd appreciate it if anyone could give me a how-to guide on the setup
and configuration of the analyzer and outboard equipment. If I'm
wrong about how to do it, I'd rather know before I get started.

CJ


Re: Tek 492 SA experts, can you answer these questions?

arthurok
 

deane kidd might have the paper manuals

----- Original Message -----
From: John Miles
To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: [TekScopes] Tek 492 SA experts, can you answer these questions?


I haven't messed with the 10 MHz output, but try feeding it into a
general-coverage receiver and see what the levels are like. Zero span will
definitely be needed.

For paper manuals, QService is great -- they are in Greece but they ship
quickly, and the quality level is essentially OEM-grade. Go here:
and enter 492 into the store
search field. Make sure the serial # range matches yours (the major
editions are either pre-B030000 or post-B030000). Can't say enough good
things about the reprints I've ordered from them.

-- john, KE5FX

> -----Original Message-----
> From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...]On
> Behalf Of Chris Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:06 PM
> To: TekScopes@...
> Subject: [TekScopes] Tek 492 SA experts, can you answer these questions?
>
>
> I'm learning my way around the 492 and don't yet have manuals for it.
> (I'd rather get print manuals than a CD copy...got a set for sale?)
>
>


Re: Tek 576 vs 577

Craig Sawyers
 

After some time looking around, I have finally bought a
577/D1 curve tracer
with the standard 177 fixture. I wonder which are the
differences with the
more expensive 576. What would I be missing?
Check the archives.

Craig


Re: Tek 528 Waveform monitor, what is it?

Chris Johnson
 

As it's strictly for monitoring NTSC standard video signals only, and
can't be used for high definition signals at all, it's of little use
and will only become less useful as time goes on. Only those who
have a need to test legacy NTSC video systems will find it useful.


Tek 576 vs 577

J Forster
 

Basically, the 576 is 7000 technology, the 577 is 5000.

The 576 is bigger, MUCH heavier, and capable of more test current. The
577 has opamp and voltage regulator test fixtures which (I think) the
576 lacks.

Either is a fine choice IMO.
-John


Hello!

After some time looking around, I have finally bought a 577/D1 curve
tracer
with the standard 177 fixture. I wonder which are the differences with
the
more expensive 576. What would I be missing?

Regards,

JOSE


Tek 576 vs 577

Jose V. Gavila
 

Hello!

After some time looking around, I have finally bought a 577/D1 curve tracer with the standard 177 fixture. I wonder which are the differences with the more expensive 576. What would I be missing?

Regards,

JOSE
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Re: Tek 528 Waveform monitor, what is it?

Tomas Larsson
 

Ok, thanks.
I thought it was something like that, obviously not that useful instument,
unless you are doing video then.

With best regards

Tomas Larsson
Sweden




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-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@...
[mailto:TekScopes@...] On Behalf Of Glenn Little WB4UIV
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:58 PM
To: tomas@...; TekScopes@...
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 528 Waveform monitor, what is it?

Tomas

The Tektronix 528 waveform monitor is used in the TV industry
to monitor the video waveform. The scope is graduated in IRE.
A proper waveform will have 100 IRE of video and 40 IRE of
sync. The scope can display two frames of video (what we
normally leave ours set at) or a single frame of video.
You can use the scope to tell if the video frequency response
of the device that the scope is monitoring is correct. It
gives an indication of the chroma level. The only use I know
of for the scope is to monitor video. The scope is fairly
old. The CRT is unique to this scope. I work at a TV station
and use different vintage waveform monitors at the station.
Hopefully all that I have stated is true for this monitor.
Some waveform monitors allow you to view a single line of video.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV

At 03:28 PM 02/04/07, Tomas Larsson wrote:
Hi group.
Stumbled across a Tek 528 Waveform monitor.

What is it, and what was it's primary use?
Cant find any info more than pic's.

With best regards

Tomas Larsson
Sweden




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Tek 528 Waveform monitor, what is it?

J Forster
 

"Tomas Larsson" wrote:

Hi group.
Stumbled across a Tek 528 Waveform monitor.

What is it, and what was it's primary use?
Cant find any info more than pic's.

With best regards

Tomas Larsson
Sweden

It's basically a specialized scope for looking at TV signals. It is
likely NTSC but I think other versions (PAL and SECAM) were made.
Triggering is from an internal TV sync separator and the graticle is
likely an IRE scale. There are filters in the vertical channel so you
can look at the full signal, luminance, and chrominance (wideband, LP,
3.58 BP).

-John


Re: Tek 528 Waveform monitor, what is it?

Bill R
 

Tomas,
It was used by TV stations to monitor video waveforms.
Made in NTSC and PAL versions, I think.
Bill Roberts

Tomas Larsson wrote:

Hi group.
Stumbled across a Tek 528 Waveform monitor.

What is it, and what was it's primary use?
Cant find any info more than pic's.

With best regards

Tomas Larsson
Sweden



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Re: Tek 528 Waveform monitor, what is it?

 

Tomas

The Tektronix 528 waveform monitor is used in the TV industry to monitor the video waveform. The scope is graduated in IRE. A proper waveform will have 100 IRE of video and 40 IRE of sync. The scope can display two frames of video (what we normally leave ours set at) or a single frame of video. You can use the scope to tell if the video frequency response of the device that the scope is monitoring is correct. It gives an indication of the chroma level. The only use I know of for the scope is to monitor video. The scope is fairly old. The CRT is unique to this scope. I work at a TV station and use different vintage waveform monitors at the station. Hopefully all that I have stated is true for this monitor. Some waveform monitors allow you to view a single line of video.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV

At 03:28 PM 02/04/07, Tomas Larsson wrote:
Hi group.
Stumbled across a Tek 528 Waveform monitor.

What is it, and what was it's primary use?
Cant find any info more than pic's.

With best regards

Tomas Larsson
Sweden




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Re: Tek 492 SA experts, can you answer these questions?

John Miles
 

I haven't messed with the 10 MHz output, but try feeding it into a
general-coverage receiver and see what the levels are like. Zero span will
definitely be needed.

For paper manuals, QService is great -- they are in Greece but they ship
quickly, and the quality level is essentially OEM-grade. Go here:
and enter 492 into the store
search field. Make sure the serial # range matches yours (the major
editions are either pre-B030000 or post-B030000). Can't say enough good
things about the reprints I've ordered from them.

-- john, KE5FX

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...]On
Behalf Of Chris Johnson
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:06 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] Tek 492 SA experts, can you answer these questions?


I'm learning my way around the 492 and don't yet have manuals for it.
(I'd rather get print manuals than a CD copy...got a set for sale?)


Tek 528 Waveform monitor, what is it?

Tomas Larsson
 

Hi group.
Stumbled across a Tek 528 Waveform monitor.

What is it, and what was it's primary use?
Cant find any info more than pic's.

With best regards

Tomas Larsson
Sweden




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Re: old fashioned 535 - first start after 35 years

Artek Media
 

Michael

For starters , do a search in the Tekscopes archives for a a long
email thread on washing and baking old scopes to get the grime out .
It may be as far back as two years ago but there was a lot of discussion.

Next I would carefully remove and mark the locations of all the
tubes, find a friend with a tube tester and test all the tubes ...

Once you have a clean dry scope and a good set of tubes time to start
tracing the circuits for bad electrolytic.. Many will suggest that
you just replace them all :-)

Does the filament on the CRT glow ? If that is dead ...you may be out
of business till you find a doaner scope

Good luck and HAVE FUN

Dave


At 02:02 PM 2/4/2007, Michael Petereit wrote:
Hi,

now I finished the repair of this pretty old scope. I switched on and
was afraid of getting "flames" out of it.
This didn't happen but even after 10 minutes running no beam appeared on
the tube.
Since the servicemanual describe resistors and capacitors with it's
number within the system the reality looks different.

I cannot measure neither 9kv voltage nor I can find the correct part
cause the scope is pretty dirty inside.

Any hints where to look first ?


Thanks,
Michael



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Tek 492 SA experts, can you answer these questions?

Chris Johnson
 

I'm learning my way around the 492 and don't yet have manuals for it.
(I'd rather get print manuals than a CD copy...got a set for sale?)

I'd like to be able to use the 492 as a receiver for AM and FM
transmissions, to be able to hear them.

My 492 has options 1,2, and 3, so the only IF option I have to work
with is the 10 MHz IF output.

I need to know what are the output specs for the IF output, so I can
determine how much gain I'm going to need. I plan to preamplify the
IF output, feed it through a detector/demodulator, and then need to
add more gain to bring it up to a level suitable for further processing,
including audio band filtering and level adjustment.

I would PRESUME that the correct mode to run in will be zero span,
is this right?

Not having actually used an analyzer in this application before,
I'd appreciate it if anyone could give me a how-to guide on the setup
and configuration of the analyzer and outboard equipment. If I'm
wrong about how to do it, I'd rather know before I get started.


CJ


old fashioned 535 - first start after 35 years

Michael Petereit
 

Hi,

now I finished the repair of this pretty old scope. I switched on and
was afraid of getting "flames" out of it.
This didn't happen but even after 10 minutes running no beam appeared on
the tube.
Since the servicemanual describe resistors and capacitors with it's
number within the system the reality looks different.

I cannot measure neither 9kv voltage nor I can find the correct part
cause the scope is pretty dirty inside.

Any hints where to look first ?


Thanks,
Michael


Photo captioning contest and trip report

 

Hi everyone,

Thanks to all of you who responded to the photo captioning challenge.
I have decided to award BOTH prizes, first place gets their choice
and second gets the other. One prize was a new set of 1x-10x probes
and the other was a copy of the 30 minute Tektronix movie " A World
of Measurements" on DVD. When I get home in a week I will get my wife
to pick the two best and let everyone know. I plan to run this
challenge frequently, so if you have a picture begging for a caption
email it to tekstore@... and I may use it. I may add a prize
for pictures used too.

We are still in California having a good time and not shovelling
snow! We are in San Jose now, after 2 weeks in LA. I have filled the
car up with more scopes than it can hold. A 545B, a 564, an 11801, a
DSA602A and an 11401 so far. If you see a couple of suitcases on the
side of the freeway, it means I found one more! LOL I was able to
visit Deane Kidd's fabulous parts depot (Thanks Deane) and enjoy
Dennis Tillman's hospitality. Julian Bunn gave us a nice tour at
Caltech and bought lunch. And yes Julian, we did get on the tour at
JPL.

Unfortunately we do have to return home to the cold and rain. My
thanks to all those who have tried to contact me or bought stuff from
our store while we are away. I plan to include a bonus with each item
that you have been waiting patiently for when I ship in about 1 week.

Enjoy the Superbowl. This is the first time I will see it from a US
location. Neat!

Larry Christopher
www.theoscilloscopestore.com


SC 501 sync

Jerry Massengale
 

Greetings,

I have an SC501 that has poor sync. The unit works better at Usec settings than Millisec settings. I can swap U200 with a unit that works good and see no improvement. I can set 2 units side by side on extenders and compare voltages and waveforms and not see anything suspicously different between the two. One is stable and locked, the other is very, very, close but not stable. When the sync on the bad unit is at it's most stable point, the blanking output slows dramatically and the screen flickers.

The power supply voltages are good with no apparent ripple. The Msec timing cap, C230 measures the same on both units(0.987uf and 1.02uf).

I am attaching the schematic for the U200 circuit. Suggestions are welcome. I would love to see a datasheet for U200. It is a Tektronix made IC, pn 0155-0055-00.

Jerry


Re: 2445A big furry trace

 

--- In TekScopes@..., "mobyxena" <moby@...> wrote:

For some unknown reason, suddenly the trace(s)on my 2445A is(are)
half
an inch wide. The focus knob doesn't do much. All the other controls
(shift, intensity etc) work normally. Any ideas where to look
appreciated.
cheers
Mike
----------
Check zener diode VR1891 and cap C1890, both on A9 High Voltage board.
Voltage at pin 8 of the CRT (= pin 9 of P901) should be around +30
volts.
/Hakan


Re: Birdies on a 492....what's normal?

arthurok
 

the birdies were coming from broadcast stations
buy some 10 db n type attenuators from ebay and put them between the gen and 492
deane kidd might have some too

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Johnson
To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: Birdies on a 492....what's normal?


I'm still learning my way around the groups. I may have sent replies
to individuals rather than the group. Sorry about that.

I went inside and checked all the cabling and found a few connections
that were a bit loose. Most of them were push-on SMB connections.
After tightening them all up, all the birdies flew away. :)

My 492 has mod UB and kit KE/FE installed. Would you happen to know
what those are?

What's the lowest power signal that this should be able to resolve at
minimum span, max resolution, and with the minimum noise filter
engaged and with video filtering set to narrow?

I'm asking because whatever it is, my HP 8640B won't go that low,
even at its -130dBM range with the vernier turned down all the way.
I'm impressed!

CJ


2445A big furry trace

 

For some unknown reason, suddenly the trace(s)on my 2445A is(are) half
an inch wide. The focus knob doesn't do much. All the other controls
(shift, intensity etc) work normally. Any ideas where to look
appreciated.
cheers
Mike