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Weird. I NEVER have a Captcha / Not A Robot screen or button when using
PayPal....

I do not save my password. Have to enter it every time, my choice. Works
for me.

I do not understand the "how far along in the buying process you are"
comment. All the screens on PayPal seem logical to me. And there are not
many when sending money, either on their website only or through a
vendor link to send funds.

So far it works well for me! Both as buyer and sending money to friends.
Even for Tek supplies, to keep it on subject.?

Frank DuVal

On 11/26/2020 1:01 AM, Jeff Dutky wrote:

I don't have particular issues, other than complaints about this
particular process (not being offered the options that would have made
this process easy), and about the quality of their buyer interface
(every time I have tried to log into their web interface I have had to
do the "I'm not a robot" dance, and every time the site has responded
with "something went wrong on our end" throwing me back to the "I'm
not a robot" screen, so that I get to do the dance again, and maybe a
third time. That's shoddy UX on PayPal's part, and I haven't got any
patience for that sort of thing. Also there's no indication of how far
along in the buying process you are, so you just have to keep clicking
Continue until suddenly the process is over. That's also shoddy UX).
My only other complaints about PayPal are mere hearsay, but I've heard
too many stories of sellers having their funds frozen over the years
to think that maybe there isn't at least a little bit of fire behind
that smoke.
That said, I understand why people want to use PayPal: they fill a
niche that, even today, has very few players. If you want to accept
payment over the web you just don't have many choices, and the
established choices (credit card merchant accounts) are not well
suited to small players. When PayPal got started they were basically
the only game in town for people who couldn't afford to set up a
merchant account, and that benefit can not be overestimated. Still,
I'm a grumpy sort, and this is one of the things I'm grumpy about.

-- Jeff Dutky

I don't have particular issues, other than complaints about this particular process (not being offered the options that would have made this process easy), and about the quality of their buyer interface (every time I have tried to log into their web interface I have had to do the "I'm not a robot" dance, and every time the site has responded with "something went wrong on our end" throwing me back to the "I'm not a robot" screen, so that I get to do the dance again, and maybe a third time. That's shoddy UX on PayPal's part, and I haven't got any patience for that sort of thing. Also there's no indication of how far along in the buying process you are, so you just have to keep clicking Continue until suddenly the process is over. That's also shoddy UX). My only other complaints about PayPal are mere hearsay, but I've heard too many stories of sellers having their funds frozen over the years to think that maybe there isn't at least a little bit of fire behind that smoke.
That said, I understand why people want to use PayPal: they fill a niche that, even today, has very few players. If you want to accept payment over the web you just don't have many choices, and the established choices (credit card merchant accounts) are not well suited to small players. When PayPal got started they were basically the only game in town for people who couldn't afford to set up a merchant account, and that benefit can not be overestimated. Still, I'm a grumpy sort, and this is one of the things I'm grumpy about.

-- Jeff Dutky

Well, I've presented quantitative calculations explaining why capacitance matters in
this circuit, and thus why series combinations are helpful. In rebuttal, you provide
"but they might still have made a mistake." That's moving the goal posts, Chuck.

I am happy to concede (for the nth time) that Tek's engineers were not flawless. But
the series resistors in the 475A are that way because of capacitance, not incompetence.

--Tom

Tom,

Yes, I had anticipated that these NOS components might not have retained
their specified values. I've been going through my father's effects while
working on his scopes and finding all sorts of now-50-year-old components,
some of which were expensive when purchased new, and thinking that some
fair fraction of them are probably now terribly out of spec, if not
completely destroyed (there are a number of big metal can capacitors that I
know were stored for at least 20 years in a hot attic, and I don't have
much hope that they are still in good condition). I purchased a dozen
resistors in the hope that I could find two that were within spec.

Back in college I worked in receiving QC for a NASA contractor that built
flight-rated systems. We would first receive a lot of 10 or 20 components
of some description, which we would label and ship over to Goddard. They
would eventually ship us back 2 or 3 components with paint marks and
certification sheets, and we were required to use only those marked
components in the parts we built for them. The other components we had
shipped to them had been tested to destruction, and only the surviving 10%
had been returned to us as flight qualified components. Careful selection
of parts is something I have thought about ever since.

But what you're saying is that while my intuition was correct, the actual
math makes a fool of me. I should really just use the metal film resistors
when they arrive because they are lower noise and the inductance is a
non-issue.

I can always gaze lovingly at the old Allen Bradleys. I'm quite sad that
nobody seems to make resistors that have those nice sharp edges anymore
(or, at least, I haven't found them for sale).

-- Jeff Dutky

Your other problem is setting the Vernier where it is supposed to sit when you put it all
together again! They don't all sit at 0.00, There is data about where they are supposed
to read when the pot is at the extreme anticlockwise. If you have problems, just make
them known here and you should get the right advice. Don't just adjust it to 0.00 - it is
likely to be wrong.

Those prices are not reasonable, and the sellers do not accept offers,
contrary to what's advertised on eBay.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 4:57 PM Jeff Dutky <jeff.dutky@...> wrote:

A quick look at ePay reveals 3 IBM 5110s, and two 5120s all asking in
excess of $1200 (all but one are OBO, so you might be able to get a
discount). Shipping on these things is going to be bear, however. There

are

lots of watchers on each one.

The 5120 is especially interesting looking, with a larger display, two
vertically mounted 8 inch floppies, and a generally "rounder" look to the
case: the thing just screams 1975. If I had any interest in these

machines

I might be tempted to pick one up.

Tom,

Yes, I had anticipated that these NOS components might not have retained their specified values. I've been going through my father's effects while working on his scopes and finding all sorts of now-50-year-old components, some of which were expensive when purchased new, and thinking that some fair fraction of them are probably now terribly out of spec, if not completely destroyed (there are a number of big metal can capacitors that I know were stored for at least 20 years in a hot attic, and I don't have much hope that they are still in good condition). I purchased a dozen resistors in the hope that I could find two that were within spec.

Back in college I worked in receiving QC for a NASA contractor that built flight-rated systems. We would first receive a lot of 10 or 20 components of some description, which we would label and ship over to Goddard. They would eventually ship us back 2 or 3 components with paint marks and certification sheets, and we were required to use only those marked components in the parts we built for them. The other components we had shipped to them had been tested to destruction, and only the surviving 10% had been returned to us as flight qualified components. Careful selection of parts is something I have thought about ever since.

But what you're saying is that while my intuition was correct, the actual math makes a fool of me. I should really just use the metal film resistors when they arrive because they are lower noise and the inductance is a non-issue.

I can always gaze lovingly at the old Allen Bradleys. I'm quite sad that nobody seems to make resistors that have those nice sharp edges anymore (or, at least, I haven't found them for sale).

-- Jeff Dutky