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Re: Help I got a Tracking Generator for my Tek 2710 but how do I install it?


 

Hello Robert:

As luck would have it, I was reminded of which vendor may be able to assist you in having those cables made. The name of the vendor is Test Parts, and they can be found using a google search.?

They will not be able to build the assembly using a Tektronix part number, but if you can specify the dimensions, and connector type they may be able to help. ?I typically buy RF connectors in bulk from this vendor, but remember discussing with them in the past the possibility of manufacturing specialty cables in small quantities. ?


Rich
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On Sep 24, 2012, at 12:59 AM, "dreadlk" <dreadlk@...> wrote:

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Hi Herbert

Thanks, I had seen those numbers but I thought they would have a corresponding long part number like the one I see on Ebay and in the SV manual for other parts. I was looking through the PDF for it but never found it, now I know why LOL.

Thanks for the offer Herb I may take you up on it pretty soon, maybe ask you instead for some photos if possible of how yours are routed so I can see where to make the bends. For now I think I can just estimate the amount I will need and buy 25% extra just in case.

BTW any suggestions on a good online place to order the parts? Digikey or is there some place better?

Thank you
Robert

--- In TekScopes@..., Measurement wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> the parts are named W52 and W53 and W55.
>
> - W55 is solder end to SMB
> - W52 SMA-male to N-female
> - W53 SMA-male to SMA-male
>
> Would it help, to know the length ???
> I can measure in mz 2712 !
>
> Herbert
>
>
> Am 23.09.2012 21:48, schrieb dreadlk:
> >
> > For starters I found this on ebay but it looks too short.
> >
> >
> > <>
> >
> > I am scouring the 2712 SVC Manual looking for the correct part number
> > but so far no luck, it is diagramed but the part numbers are not
> > listed for any of the cables.
> >
> > --- In TekScopes@... ,
> > "dreadlk" <dreadlk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the information, I agree with both of your assessments.
> > It was easy to find the Cables in a flex format so I went out and
> > bought some on day one. Now that I read your posts I know it won't
> > work and my dilemma is that I have no idea where to find the Semi
> > Rigid versions. I am going to do some searching but I have a feeling I
> > am going to need a lot of luck on my side to make this happen. If the
> > unit will error out it makes little sense for me to proceed further
> > until I locate these cables so at this point I am going to mark out
> > the plate for cutting and drilling based on Jims info and then when I
> > know where to get the needed cables I will start the cutting and drilling.
> > >
> > > If anybody has any of these cables and is willing to sell them
> > please let me know or if you have any ideas on a source that might
> > sell them the info would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > > KD8MJR
> > >
> > > --- In TekScopes@...
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Robert:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With regard to the rigid coax cable used to connect the TG to the
> > front
> > > > panel, I think you are going to want to use this. While at low
> > frequency
> > > > other types of cable may work fine, when you get into microwave
> > you may run
> > > > into a problem with the TG Gain Flatness Normalization. If the
> > output of the
> > > > TG is off by more than +/-3dBm (This is from memory so double
> > check), it
> > > > will show up as a fault when you first attempt to normalize.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rich, AJ3G
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: TekScopes@...
> > [mailto:TekScopes@...
> > ] On Behalf
> > > > Of dreadlk
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:33 PM
> > > > To: TekScopes@...
> > > > Subject: [TekScopes] Re: Help I got a Tracking Generator for my
> > Tek 2710 but
> > > > how do I install it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jim
> > > >
> > > > Thank you so much for the reply. I do have a VR BW board in that
> > cavity and
> > > > I received the TG with no cables at all, I will have to figure out
> > how to
> > > > obtain the needed parts and where to source them.
> > > > I was wondering if flexible cables with SMA and Type N will work
> > or does it
> > > > have to be the rigid stuff? I obtained a copy of the 2712 SV
> > Manual and am
> > > > going to look through it tonight to try and get a better idea of
> > what I am
> > > > dealing with, I want to thank you for your post, it certainly
> > clarified
> > > > things for me, I hope I am up to the task of doing this Job as I
> > must admit
> > > > I am a bit worried about messing up my 2710 it has been absolutely a
> > > > pleasure to use over the years and is in fantastic condition.
> > > >
> > > > Let me ask you Jim is there any chance of having my proverbial
> > cake and
> > > > eating it too?
> > > > I mean could I leave in the VR BW board and run cables to the Back
> > of the
> > > > unit and put the TG in a separate enclosure, kind of like a DIY
> > 2707? I am
> > > > just wondering if anybody has ever done that, I would imagine that
> > it might
> > > > not be practical but I just wanted to get your opinion.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway Jim I am going to take out the VR BW board and see what I
> > am dealing
> > > > with. If you have any suggestions please post them, and thanks so
> > much for
> > > > your help.
> > > >
> > > > Robert
> > > > KD8MJR
> > > >
> > > > --- In TekScopes@...
> >
> > ,
> > > > "Jim" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Robert -
> > > > > The TG mounts in the cavity on the left side of the analyzer.
> > This also is
> > > > the same cavity which houses the Variable Resolution BW board. You
> > can only
> > > > use one or the other, not both. It wasn't clear whether you have
> > the VR BW
> > > > board or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are two semi-rigid cables that will need to be made. One
> > routes the
> > > > RF to the front panel and has an SMA on one end and a Type N on
> > the other.
> > > > The other routes the 2nd LO (2 GHz) to the TG. Did you receive
> > these cables?
> > > > The ribbon cable will plug into the main power supply board to
> > provide the
> > > > interface. in fact, I just remembered that one end of the ribbon
> > cable is
> > > > crimped to a IDC connector that is *soldered* to the power supply
> > board. The
> > > > other end uses at typical IDC connector that will plug into the
> > TG. The 2712
> > > > (not 2710) service manual has a block diagram that will aide in
> > making the
> > > > necessary connections. This manual is down loadable from the
> > site
> > > > and will be a better reference for what you are wanting to do. You
> > will have
> > > > some work to do to get your TG up and running. Take your time and
> > it will go
> > > > smoothly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck.
> > > > > Jim
> > > > > WB5KYE
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In TekScopes@...
> >
> > > > > > "dreadlk" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I posted about a month ago about searching for an internal
> > tracking
> > > > generator for my 2710 SA and I finally found one from an old Tektronix
> > > > dealer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now I have this unit with Id No 119-3889-07 it's in a golden
> > colored all
> > > > metal case with 3 female SMA connectors and a 10 pin 2 row IDC
> > connector.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Luckily I found several old Mobo serial connectors that are
> > the right
> > > > size but only use 9 of the 10 pins so I removed the wire and made
> > a 10 wire
> > > > straight pin to pin cable from the connector ends.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now I open up my 2710 to locate grounds and power pins on this IDC
> > > > connector and have a WTF moment. Where the Heck does this thing go!! I
> > > > remember a side section that was free but the unit won't fit and
> > all the
> > > > card slots are used up! Plus its just too big, so I have no clue
> > how this
> > > > fits into a 2710.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can find nothing on the net about this Option 04 tracking
> > generator,
> > > > it's not even listed in the 2710 service manual but I have seen
> > several 2710
> > > > sold with Tracking Gens built in and the guy who sold it to me
> > told me it
> > > > works with the 2710 Arggggh....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anybody have any idea what I should do next? I can't even
> > locate the 10
> > > > pin connector that it supposed to plug into much less fit the unit
> > into my
> > > > 2710. Man I hope I did not waste all that money, I am having
> > serious regrets
> > > > now. Sorry if this comes of as a Crazy Rant but I should have done my
> > > > homework before making this purchase, I am upset with myself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robert
> > > > > > KD8MJR
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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